NYC - Times Square - Galaxy S4 - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

So what is the deal with the launch! I have heard and read many articles about tomorrow but non with details on the launch.
Who is going to be there tomorrow?
Is this going to be indoors/outdoors on the big screen or what?
Let me know what you think.
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I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.

bikrame said:
I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.
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You heard right, I live around there but I'm pretty sure you need an invite just like the ps4 event.
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It's called an "embargo". That's when Samsung promises that news media will get all the juicy bits and details, but nothing must be officially released until Samsung "lifts" that embargo.
Unfortunately, it's not clear what is allowed, so even "who's who list" will not be announced until the embargo is lifted.
There's a Chinese news site that blasted through the embargo, I'm sure that Samsung will sanction them with much less news in the future. But that is just their evaluation phone, nothing to do about the launch it's self, nor the Tim Cook look alike they've hired to spoof the iPhone in comparison.. (wait, didn't say that. Nothing to see here folks)... :silly:

Link for live unveil on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IDXILsX7_QI

Going on now!!!!

Samsung does really know how to please its customers and demands
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I wasn't really impressed with the software leap but I will make the switch for the hardware and the black phone
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Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:

Re: NYC - Times Square - Galaxy S4.
I'll grab that.

SeaFractor said:
Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:
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I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.

you guys think they'll give us U.S GS3 users an update that will give us most (if not all) of the software features of the Galaxy S 4 like they did for the Galaxy S II?
i sure hope so..lol

Orical said:
I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
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The specs list shows a 1.9 GHz Quad-Core Processor / 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor. The selection of processor will be differed by markets. The touchscreen also works while wearing gloves.
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/20...quad-core-1.6-octa-core-q2-release-dates.html

I'm going to be seriously pissed off if they pull a Qualcomm stunt for the US version again. Seems like that is exactly what they are doing though. I wish they would just give GSM pentaband and Exynos and through CDMA to the wolves...
A lot of the features probably wouldn't work on Qualcomm chips... I seriously doubt the 600 could keep up.

Pretty similar to the s3 just obvious improvements with the hardware. I think us gs3 users are not as impressed but what you expect to since the s3 was soo good what can come after that to impress again, the s3 put the bar so high the s4 is just a minimal update. I still don't believe android is ready for these quad core, octa-core processors.
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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
CNET

So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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The 600 is no slouch but yes, we get the shaft again. Especially on T-Mobile since we can not even use it on the AWS band. at&t users at least have the option of buying unlocked.
Interestingly enough, the US launch partners are at&t, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cricket, and U.S. Cellular. I think that's a first - Cricket getting the best of the best on launch! Their "pay 1000 dollars for a 600 dollar device" program must be being successful much like T-Mobiles Value Plan device installments have been.
I am going to pass for now. I don't mind Snapdragon chips but they get hot and they suck a lot of power.
Honestly if CDMA was dead, I bet Samsung would make an Exynos for the US but releasing two different processor models in a single market would not only piss off consumers but carriers as well. I don't ever see Samsung licensing CDMA from Qualcomm when they can just get an SoC from them instead. I think we need to be more pissed at Qualcomm for their monopoly stranglehold and their slow development of high end chips. We won't see Samsung chips until Qualcomm is brought down a few notches.

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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
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Actually its still up in the air as it says the pro fusion OR octocore on the sheet, I believe they may go the lessor route as well though as it seems to be the trend of past desisions but its not like there's any other carrier producing better than the pro anyways. Only Samsung put the 8 core out there to begin with and yes if you wait another year sure 25 other devices will be in the mix but that's what the game is and that's not gonna make a difference because there will always be a let down no matter what company is in the hot seat but is it the fact we may not get the octo over the pro which HTC is using the 600 in the One they just released and swear by really a huge let down? If they said the screen was gonna be more like the GS3 that would break the deal since they bragged about 1080.
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TMobile Galaxy S II - Different Proc???

One of these phones is not like the others, one of these phones just doesn't belong...
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-didnt-show-galaxy-s-ii-device-because-of-processor-changes/
So, is anyone else a bit concerned about the rumor that the TMo Galaxy II processor differs from the Sprint/AT&T versions? Aren't kernels build and optimized to a specific processor?
Any of you Vibrant owners with a unique GPS chip ready to plunk down a whole bunch of cash on a brand new phone and wait for Samsung/TMobile to develop and release a special version of Android each time there's a newer version released by the mothership?
...just curious.
I'll buy it...
Then sell it and use the money towards a nexus 3 purchase. Not messing with t mobile-Samsung tag team of rape like this vibrant. The development will be fairly small and most of the Ports of roms probably won't happen because the phone is so different from the international version that normally gets regular updates. Or I might try the next best thing from HTC at least they upgrade their phones even through t mobile
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Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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True but you forget just how long it's taken for these GB builds to lose most of their bugs. I love my Sensation because it's the same identical phone that's used all around the world so if one of them gets a new OS update it will work flawlessly. If this Hercules is not like the others then I'd bet anything that the dev community will be very thin (even thinner than the vibrant community). Phones these days are only as good as the chefs that cook for them. Just something to think about. Instead of having the same GS2 all around the world every carrier gets a slightly modified version making it a pain in the ass to flash roms between them all.
i will not buy it if it has a qualcomm instead of exynos.
This is interesting!
Kies Air: Samsung’s Kies software has been used in the past to update Samsung phones since before Android, but it got abandoned slightly for the Over The Air promises made with Android. When a device doesn’t get an update in a timely manner, the blame machine gets pointed in every which direction with incredible delays sometimes. By removing the carrier from the equation, Samsung has opted to use their own software solution to update their devices. This could possibly be a move by Samsung towards the update alliance proposed by Google at this year’s IO, but what it will do for sure is remove one less person to blame.
Here's the link to the whole article:
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/what-makes-the-galaxy-s2-worth-it-in-the-us-20110831/
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i will not buy it if it has a qualcomm instead of exynos.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4707/usa-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-variants-announced
PJcastaldo said:
Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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1) You would rather have a device that has download capable throughput that is higher then you will get in almost every instance from a server you are requesting data from for a fraction of the time you use the device compared a significantly stronger CPU that you will be using every time you use the phone? Add to the throttling that TMobile does and that seems like a huge sacrifice.
2) Rom support aside, the point is the Vibrant was handicapped from the beginning and was never what it could have been. GB Roms are far from perfect in every instance. Yes they are functional, but no where close to what they could have been or would be with source code. There are devices far newer then ours that shipped with Froyo and received GB. The Vibrant was a Flagship device.
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no new info, it's still the same speculation.
its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
movieaddict said:
its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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qualcomm makes snapdragon, so even if its not labeled as such, its essentially the same thing...certainly different from exynos and tegra
movieaddict said:
its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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The apq8060 is a snapdragon s3 chip dude. Look at theQualcomm website
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I had hopes for this phone but qualcomm really sucks the phones just feel like a overclocked single core Exynos feels like dual core would have preferred tegra if not Exynos but well see how phone performs
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yep, the instant I saw that this is coming with a snapdragon instead of the exynos is the instant I decided to wait for the Droid Prime.
I prefer the Hummingbird, and I prefer the Exynos. It's not the I dislike the Snapdragon, but I certainly believe the Exynos is superior for my needs than either the Tegra 2 or the Snapdragon.
if we get the other processore its basicly a samsung version of sensation with bigger screen and touch wiz faster internet?
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its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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It's the same CPU that's in a Touchpad, and it's similar to the one that's in the Sensation. It's still a snapdragon dude.
Get the international version of galaxy s2. You problem will go away. I believe international version works on T-Mobile network too.
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Get the international version of galaxy s2. You problem will go away. I believe international version works on T-Mobile network too.
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No, international version works only with ATT 3G.
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if we get the other processore its basicly a samsung version of sensation with bigger screen and touch wiz faster internet?
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bigger and much better screen. But otherwise, yes basically.
Well this snap dragon processor is going to suck. battery wise and long wait no speed boast. i mean 1.2 maybe 1.5 and it wont be to bad. the way i see it is i dont need faster internet when my browser is still slow. only way to speed the browser up is faster cpu and gpu or better optimization. since android is on tons of different setup that leaves us with only one option cpu and gpu need to be better. give me samsung processor thank you

GS3: To buy or not...

GS3 threads here and there, lets add this to the mix.
Personally I'm eligible for an upgrade now. My expectations were to upgrade from S2 to S3. After the announcement I'm left wondering to buy or not to buy?
IMO breakdown:
It's S3 (feels like going from iphone 4 to 4s).
NFC on sprint (matching competition)
Processor (although not clear, most likely match of inches)
Screen/display (matching to behind competition)
Camera (not clear of quality improvement over S2)
Everything else pretty much matching competition.
What I was hoping for (to blast past others):
2ghz quadcore or similar
2gb ram
12mp camera with better/improved lense
Thinner to match the thinnest
Better screen display / resolution
Close to zero side beasal/ edge to edge screen
I feel like Samsung is wrong in this instance of copying apple with the idea of iphone 4 then 4s. Because, there is no iphone competition or choices. Samsung's reputation IMO is on the bottom of the list... (a) released s2 on sprint with bugs, los, charging problems and it took them MONTHS to fix/ release an update. ICS still coming soon 6months later. TW is not pretty.
Now don't get me wrong, I like my S2. The question is $500 to spend on s3 to get nfc and processor to load an app in 1sec vs 1.5 secs? The software will most likely be ported to s2.
After purchasing the ASUS transformer prime, I realized what excellent product support really means (3 updates within days/weeks to squash bugs, ics within a month, no failed promises). ASUS is as sexy if not sexier thanSamsung.
Overall, I went from 100% purchase of s3 to WAIT and see Asus phone, evo 4g lte, etc...
Not too impressed, I'll see what will be available by release date and if waiting few months to get siik with another phone, i'll definitely be waiting...
If you disagree, that's great. If you can't wait to buy, great. If you hate me, thats cool. BUT. lets be honest, it didn't blow me away in any way or squash the competition.
Alex1x said:
GS3 threads here and there, lets add this to the mix.
Personally I'm eligible for an upgrade now. My expectations were to upgrade from S2 to S3. After the announcement I'm left wondering to buy or not to buy?
IMO breakdown:
It's S3 (feels like going from iphone 4 to 4s).
NFC on sprint (matching competition)
Processor (although not clear, most likely match of inches)
Screen/display (matching to behind competition)
Camera (not clear of quality improvement over S2)
Everything else pretty much matching competition.
What I was hoping for (to blast past others):
2ghz quadcore or similar
2gb ram
12mp camera with better/improved lense
Thinner to match the thinnest
Better screen display / resolution
Close to zero side beasal/ edge to edge screen
I feel like Samsung is wrong in this instance of copying apple with the idea of iphone 4 then 4s. Because, there is no iphone competition or choices. Samsung's reputation IMO is on the bottom of the list... (a) released s2 on sprint with bugs, los, charging problems and it took them MONTHS to fix/ release an update. ICS still coming soon 6months later. TW is not pretty.
Now don't get me wrong, I like my S2. The question is $500 to spend on s3 to get nfc and processor to load an app in 1sec vs 1.5 secs? The software will most likely be ported to s2.
After purchasing the ASUS transformer prime, I realized what excellent product support really means (3 updates within days/weeks to squash bugs, ics within a month, no failed promises). ASUS is as sexy if not sexier thanSamsung.
Overall, I went from 100% purchase of s3 to WAIT and see Asus phone, evo 4g lte, etc...
Not too impressed, I'll see what will be available by release date and if waiting few months to get siik with another phone, i'll definitely be waiting...
If you disagree, that's great. If you can't wait to buy, great. If you hate me, thats cool. BUT. lets be honest, it didn't blow me away in any way or squash the competition.
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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Keep dreaming. No way they'll release it with a quad-core A15 Exynos. Maybe a dual-core A15, but a quad-core A15 is almost too insane to comprehend. Worthy of a new phone in itself. I'd bet on a dual-core S4 or Exynos with LTE.
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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Oh god quad core A15 LTE will make me absolutely die not to mention sprint is always in front of everybody in specs and idk it might be possible to cause a big wave them bring in the higher end of a high end phone but hey I can pray ^^
Pheno.menon said:
That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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I heard sprints version isn't coming out til Q4 and the quad core a15 exynos with integrated LTE is supposed to be ready Q3 so its a possibility, just like sprint got the better processor for the ET4G, USA GSM launch is mid to late summer but cdma(sprint) is rumored to be sept-dec launch again. I'm not gonna be upgrading til around then anyways and I'm waiting to see what the next nexus has to offer. LTE hits my area in the phase 2 rollout later this year and early December my 3rd line will be upgrade eligible so ill have 3 upgrades and I'm gonna hold on to my et4g til then since LTE will be available in my area. The one thing I do know is I won't be getting an HTC, I'm boycotting them for their BS unlock which is still locked out. Especially now that instead of the "unlocked" water mark you get a big fat ****TAMPERED**** watermark when you unlock your bootloader. And htcdev unlock is pretty much worthless because you can't do a whole hell of a lot after unlocking without being tied to a PC
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Pheno.menon said:
That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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Maybe not - Rumors from Japan are that the S. Korea and Japan devices - due out at the end of the month - may have the quad + LTE. And given Sammy's home country status I'd tend to believe that S. Korea would get it first - Japan second due to its proximity and potential customer base.
The device in question - reportedly DoCoMo SC-06D - has already been benchmarked and approved by Japan's version of the FCC. So we'll see if it's really the GS3 or not soon enough.
If its not for the wishful thinking, the GS3 is not worth the super hype. Too bad.
I will have to wait and see what sprint comes up with for their version. I'm not too impressed so far. This will be the first time I can remember that I will probably pass on the newest high end phone sprint releases.
I might as well get it anyways
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I heard sprints version isn't coming out til Q4 and the quad core a15 exynos with integrated LTE is supposed to be ready Q3 so its a possibility, just like sprint got the better processor for the ET4G, USA GSM launch is mid to late summer but cdma(sprint) is rumored to be sept-dec launch again. I'm not gonna be upgrading til around then anyways and I'm waiting to see what the next nexus has to offer. LTE hits my area in the phase 2 rollout later this year and early December my 3rd line will be upgrade eligible so ill have 3 upgrades and I'm gonna hold on to my et4g til then since LTE will be available in my area. The one thing I do know is I won't be getting an HTC, I'm boycotting them for their BS unlock which is still locked out. Especially now that instead of the "unlocked" water mark you get a big fat ****TAMPERED**** watermark when you unlock your bootloader. And htcdev unlock is pretty much worthless because you can't do a whole hell of a lot after unlocking without being tied to a PC
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Either way I'm not changing until next summer - will even have the missus hold off if she can. Next device will be LTE; based on how long it took our MVNO to get the E4GT (March) I'm guessing the S3 right around upgrade time next summer. That is if we stay with them....
....iphone 4s...
....Kyocera echo.......
....galaxy s3........
Bummer
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
Very disappointed. I thought it was gonna blow the GS2 away but instead is like a GS2 Service pack 1. With that being said....I still have hope for sprint version, they always make their different from others.
Cheers from Japan!
When I first heard about the S3, I thought, finally a quad-core! Can't wait till it hits Japan! I was sooooo hyped because we usually get the cream of the crop here like with the S2 with the exynos dual-core, super amoled screen, mali-400 gpu and what not. But then I found out we are NOT getting the quad-core and getting a 1.5Ghz dual-core which really burst my bubble. Was sooo sad when I FIRST found out about that.
Then I did a little research if you can call it that, on the specs of the Japanese version of the S3.
Well what do you know! Japanese version is getting the msm8960 SoC (S4) which to my surprise, spec wise, is the most powerful chip in the smartphone market! Benchmarks and whatnot show it leaves everything else in the dust like a bugatti veyron racing a nissan micra! WTF?!? ...... Dual-core??? LOL
On top of that, the Japanese version is getting 2 Gigs of ram with 32 Gigs rom.
Woooohoooo! Can't wait till the bomb drops!!! (No pun intended) hehehe I'm totally lovin my S2, Gtab 7 is ok, Gtab 10.1 Lte is ........... alright.
Sorry 'bout goin krayzee but the dual-core just might be alright afterall!
On another note, the first released S3 has the exynos 4212 quad. The Japanese S2 has the exynos 4210 dual. Pin-to-pin is the supposed to be the same.
Anyone think a 4212 in an S2 is doable? I know that some kind of syncing software is needed but what bout the kernel, etc.?
Any opinions?
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Cheers from Japan!
When I first heard about the S3, I thought, finally a quad-core! Can't wait till it hits Japan! I was sooooo hyped because we usually get the cream of the crop here like with the S2 with the exynos dual-core, super amoled screen, mali-400 gpu and what not. But then I found out we are NOT getting the quad-core and getting a 1.5Ghz dual-core which really burst my bubble. Was sooo sad when I FIRST found out about that.
Then I did a little research if you can call it that, on the specs of the Japanese version of the S3.
Well what do you know! Japanese version is getting the msm8960 SoC (S4) which to my surprise, spec wise, is the most powerful chip in the smartphone market! Benchmarks and whatnot show it leaves everything else in the dust like a bugatti veyron racing a nissan micra! WTF?!? ...... Dual-core??? LOL
On top of that, the Japanese version is getting 2 Gigs of ram with 32 Gigs rom.
Woooohoooo! Can't wait till the bomb drops!!! (No pun intended) hehehe I'm totally lovin my S2, Gtab 7 is ok, Gtab 10.1 Lte is ........... alright.
Sorry 'bout goin krayzee but the dual-core just might be alright afterall!
On another note, the first released S3 has the exynos 4212 quad. The Japanese S2 has the exynos 4210 dual. Pin-to-pin is the supposed to be the same.
Anyone think a 4212 in an S2 is doable? I know that some kind of syncing software is needed but what bout the kernel, etc.?
Any opinions?
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Just curious, have the docomo employees started to hint at a release date? I have a relative itching to get this since she refused to get the SC-02B (another immediate relative had it, can't be the same...)
I love the S2. Will not be getting the S3 though unless it really amazes me in hand (highly doubtful). When the S3 was announced I realized what really matters to me in a high end smartphone is screen and build quality. Pentile display?? You gotta be kidding me. I think the S2 display is better looking than the S3. Why would you skimp on display quality? That is literally the most distinctive and used aspect of any smartphone. Oh and also the build design look atrocious. 2011 = IPhone 4s vs S2 2012 = HTC One X vs IPhone 5 Welcome back HTC. Dont know what the hell happened to ya last year, back just in time though. This is all IMO exept S3 screen, it really does look like crap (fact).
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I love the S2. Will not be getting the S3 though unless it really amazes me in hand (highly doubtful). When the S3 was announced I realized what really matters to me in a high end smartphone is screen and build quality. Pentile display?? You gotta be kidding me. I think the S2 display is better looking than the S3. Why would you skimp on display quality? That is literally the most distinctive and used aspect of any smartphone. Oh and also the build design look atrocious. 2011 = IPhone 4s vs S2 2012 = HTC One X vs IPhone 5 Welcome back HTC. Dont know what the hell happened to ya last year, back just in time though. This is all IMO exept S3 screen, it really does look like crap (fact).
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Every review I've read puts the HTC one above the sgs3, even if only slightly. Coworker has the att version and its awesome. Think I'm going to hold off till the jelly bean phones though. I'm really happy with this phone and it runs ics great.
I'll see what the sgs4 looks like compared to what else is out next summer/fall.
plus, with lte still it its baby-stages, I don't want to give up my wimax phone yet. there's no 4g around my house but there is around work
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ya if I lived in a Wimax area I would be hesitant to give up a 4g phone as well. But I don't and Im taking sprints LTE roll out very lighty after the promises of 4g in are area for 2+ years and no delivery. On sprint s website they claim to have 4g in Omaha...but they do not have it anywhere here. Flat out liers! Thats why im jumping ship to At&t, I dont care about umlimited data, sprint will pull it once they roll out LTE everywhere. On a side note if you want out of a sprint contract etf free just flash a VZW prl and roam your ass off ;P
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Sgs3 will be available on sprint by the summer. To sucker in the upgrades. In the winter (Q4) before x-mas is when Samsung unveils new quadcore lte on their new flagship nexus phone. Yes, it will have jelly bean out of the box. Sprint will get it as will verizon & at&t. I will be visiting some of you in the sgs3 forum to see how your jelly bean leaks are panning out!
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Sgs3 will be available on sprint by the summer. To sucker in the upgrades. In the winter (Q4) before x-mas is when Samsung unveils new quadcore lte on their new flagship nexus phone. Yes, it will have jelly bean out of the box. Sprint will get it as will verizon & at&t. I will be visiting some of you in the sgs3 forum to see how your jelly bean leaks are panning out!
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To bad the nexus has always been almost the exact same thing as the S models. Wishful thinking though. Dont get me wrong that would be tight but I HIGHLY doubt it. hopefully sprint wont get it 3 months before the S4 drops like last nexus and the s3
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I contacted Samsung directly about the Premium Suite update.

The long story short is that even though its been out on the International Galaxy S3 for over three months, they don't even have a roadmap for when it will be released in the US.
Once you decipher the PR-speak, it becomes pretty apparent that they don't have current plans to release the update in the US, and more than likely will never release it for our devices.
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The long story short is that even though its been out on the International Galaxy S3 for over three months, they don't even have a roadmap for when it will be released in the US.
Once you decipher the PR-speak from their support rep, it becomes pretty apparent that they don't have current plans to release the update in the US, and more than likely will never release it for our devices.
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I would imagine that it's more that the US vendors, T-Mobile as one of them, want their own "goodies" installed on our devices. This impacts when and how long we have to expect an update for our product. It's this issue that inspired the "Google Nexus" style of products, an open standard Android with updates directly from Google.
You can expect frustration in awaiting updates when you compare to the "competitors" devices, even though they are the same physical device.
I'm frequently frustrated that I have 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7 tablet and 4.1.1 on my Galaxy S3. But not enough to have purchased a Nexus 4 instead.
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I would imagine that it's more that the US vendors, T-Mobile as one of them, want their own "goodies" installed on our devices. This impacts when and how long we have to expect an update for our product. It's this issue that inspired the "Google Nexus" style of products, an open standard Android with updates directly from Google.
You can expect frustration in awaiting updates when you compare to the "competitors" devices, even though they are the same physical device.
I'm frequently frustrated that I have 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7 tablet and 4.1.1 on my Galaxy S3. But not enough to have purchased a Nexus 4 instead.
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Honestly, I think it has more to do with the hardware differences than the carriers in the case of the S3... Quite simply, the international S3 is much more capable than the US versions, end of story. Not only that but the Exynos uses completely different optimizations than Qualcomm chips do and not even the graphics chips between the two are comparable. It would take significant resources for Samsung that they could instead put into the Galaxy S IV basket.
Hopefully the S IV puts an end to the fragmentation that plagues the Galaxy series...
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Honestly, I think it has more to do with the hardware differences than the carriers in the case of the S3... Quite simply, the international S3 is much more capable than the US versions, end of story. Not only that but the Exynos uses completely different optimizations than Qualcomm chips do and not even the graphics chips between the two are comparable. It would take significant resources for Samsung that they could instead put into the Galaxy S IV basket.
Hopefully the S IV puts an end to the fragmentation that plagues the Galaxy series...
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I am sure that I will never buy a vendor`s device again.
For sure I am not going to stay long in this device.
I didnt stay long to get ICS on my Galaxy s ; JB on Galaxy s 2; and for sure I dont hope to get and want to wait JB 4.2.2 on our s3.
March 14 is near and so htc one is on way.
Quick question. Now that tmobile brought their 1900 band and which bands for LTE they have. And now iPhones works with tmobile's 3G. Does buying an international S3 or any international phone will it have more than edge on tmobile network?
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Quick question. Now that tmobile brought their 1900 band and which bands for LTE they have. And now iPhones works with tmobile's 3G. Does buying an international S3 or any international phone will it have more than edge on tmobile network?
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If you live in an area with refarmed 1900 to support HSPA, you will get spotty at best HSPA coverage and EDGE the rest of the time. The I-9300 doesn't support AWS so you will have reduced coverage (AWS is both voice and data and some places T-Mobile has 1700 licenses but no 1900 licenses so you wouldn't have a signal at all).
I would just get an S IV. Chances are it will cost you the same as getting an internation S III anyway.
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I would imagine that it's more that the US vendors, T-Mobile as one of them, want their own "goodies" installed on our devices. This impacts when and how long we have to expect an update for our product. It's this issue that inspired the "Google Nexus" style of products, an open standard Android with updates directly from Google.
You can expect frustration in awaiting updates when you compare to the "competitors" devices, even though they are the same physical device.
I'm frequently frustrated that I have 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7 tablet and 4.1.1 on my Galaxy S3. But not enough to have purchased a Nexus 4 instead.
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I believe its more about their unwillingness to expend the effort on development. Because of the difference in architecture between the US and International S3 something else other than the absolute minimum effort is required to port those features and properly support the device, so they're not going to do it.
A large number of people found 4.1.1 to be extremely buggy and poorly optimized, that doesn't exactly reflect well on them as far their effort spent supporting American customers either.
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I believe its more about their unwillingness to expend the effort on development. Because of the difference in architecture between the US and International S3 something else other than the absolute minimum effort is required to port those features and properly support the device, so they're not going to do it.
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Sounds a lot like what I said up above...
"Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant
Honestly, I think it has more to do with the hardware differences than the carriers in the case of the S3... Quite simply, the international S3 is much more capable than the US versions, end of story. Not only that but the Exynos uses completely different optimizations than Qualcomm chips do and not even the graphics chips between the two are comparable. It would take significant resources for Samsung that they could instead put into the Galaxy S IV basket.
Hopefully the S IV puts an end to the fragmentation that plagues the Galaxy series..."
Probably not Gonna happen there's been reports where the international one would be getting a faster processor, samsung hasn't really discuss this even though they plan to launch phone next month.
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Probably not Gonna happen there's been reports where the international one would be getting a faster processor, samsung hasn't really discuss this even though they plan to launch phone next month.
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The Exynos Octa doesn't support AWS connectivity so expect a 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 Fusion Pro chip instead here in the US. Its no Exynos but its no slouch either. Battery life will probably suck though.
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The Exynos Octa doesn't support AWS connectivity so expect a 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 Fusion Pro chip instead here in the US. Its no Exynos but its no slouch either. Battery life will probably suck though.
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Yeah that's what I thought, I don't think that battery voltage 2600 is high enough for the processor and everything else. With the s3 we were suppose to have the "weaker" chip yet when you compared it to the quad core the speed was almost identical. Except if you start doing test and all that which that doesn't matter a whole lot. It's all about how fast can I go from point a to point b and back to the beginning, so I imagine it might be about the same this time around. I won't be upgrading so I could care less lol
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The Qualcomm chips scale well but the clock to performance ratio of Qualcomm to Samsung chips is skewed.
In any case, Qualcomm chips are hard to decipher because they don't even follow true ARM architecture whereas Samsung chips are full blown ARM designs. For example, the Exynos Octa is the first ARM big.little tech. While there are 8 cores, only 4 are used at once. 4 are ARMv7 cores for lightweight tasks to save battery and 4 are super powered ARMv15 cores. In that way, its not really a true 8 core chip. Also I'm not entirely sure if the cores can mix and match (ie, 2 v7 and 2 v15 cores) or if you are locked to one or the other.
The graphics beat the pants off of the Adreno 320, however, although its still a major upgrade from the Adreno 225 chip in the S3.
It really comes down to needs. I don't think Samsung made a smart move launching a slight hardware upgrade so close to the release of the S3 in the states and even more, the processor fragmentation is going to put yet more sales off. I am willing to bet a great many are going to save their pennies for the Note 3. Samsung will get those who haven't moved from the original Galaxy S and a number of S II users though.
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The Qualcomm chips scale well but the clock to performance ratio of Qualcomm to Samsung chips is skewed.
In any case, Qualcomm chips are hard to decipher because they don't even follow true ARM architecture whereas Samsung chips are full blown ARM designs. For example, the Exynos Octa is the first ARM big.little tech. While there are 8 cores, only 4 are used at once. 4 are ARMv7 cores for lightweight tasks to save battery and 4 are super powered ARMv15 cores. In that way, its not really a true 8 core chip. Also I'm not entirely sure if the cores can mix and match (ie, 2 v7 and 2 v15 cores) or if you are locked to one or the other.
The graphics beat the pants off of the Adreno 320, however, although its still a major upgrade from the Adreno 225 chip in the S3.
It really comes down to needs. I don't think Samsung made a smart move launching a slight hardware upgrade so close to the release of the S3 in the states and even more, the processor fragmentation is going to put yet more sales off. I am willing to bet a great many are going to save their pennies for the Note 3. Samsung will get those who haven't moved from the original Galaxy S and a number of S II users though.
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The hardware fragmentation in the Galaxy S4 line means that the current disparity in features and support is more than likely going to be perpetuated with their newer models, its unfortunate.
I'm also not sure why its remotely necessary when every single version of the Galaxy Note II uses an Exynos chip.
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The Qualcomm chips scale well but the clock to performance ratio of Qualcomm to Samsung chips is skewed.
In any case, Qualcomm chips are hard to decipher because they don't even follow true ARM architecture whereas Samsung chips are full blown ARM designs. For example, the Exynos Octa is the first ARM big.little tech. While there are 8 cores, only 4 are used at once. 4 are ARMv7 cores for lightweight tasks to save battery and 4 are super powered ARMv15 cores. In that way, its not really a true 8 core chip. Also I'm not entirely sure if the cores can mix and match (ie, 2 v7 and 2 v15 cores) or if you are locked to one or the other.
The graphics beat the pants off of the Adreno 320, however, although its still a major upgrade from the Adreno 225 chip in the S3.
It really comes down to needs. I don't think Samsung made a smart move launching a slight hardware upgrade so close to the release of the S3 in the states and even more, the processor fragmentation is going to put yet more sales off. I am willing to bet a great many are going to save their pennies for the Note 3. Samsung will get those who haven't moved from the original Galaxy S and a number of S II users though.
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I like your thinking, you look you know about all these stuff. Always interested in processors and all this stuff willing to learn. I agree like I said earlier from any other phone than the s3 people would love the s4, but the fact that it looks exactly just like this one turns some s3 users down too. They are asking us to pay "Premium" again honestly very impatient move, don't know why they are rushing for a new release. It's about 8 or 9 months, the s3 fair pretty good against the s3 even though it was out months earlier than the iPhone 5. I think they could of release this phone in the summer closer to the iPhone 6 because now when the 6th comes out the s4 would be deemed "old" by a lot of people that want everything new.
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At the same time they probably wanted a few months by themselves with virtually no competition to get a lot of sales, I think you can't compare the s4 to the 5 it'd really unfair so right now the galaxy is the leader till the 6 can challenge it
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I'm a little pissed were getting the weaker processor in the US. Especially in the terms of gpu disparity... Kinda weak Samsung did not impress me this time around if I can afford it I'll go international, otherwise there's a good chance I'm looking to the xperia z or HTC one. Screw HTC as far as development but despite Samsung usually being far better I'm not impressed with the new one. I like the idea of the front dual speakers on the HTC one. And build is pretty nice. Phone hardware is nice enough that it runs beautifully on touch wiz or HTC Sense and i can use whatever launcher avail so I'm not concerned about cm and such. And I love the screen on this but not comfortable using something larger than even the current note so I probably won't go that route. I guess we'll see.
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I would care to challenge that. Yesterday, Samsung said the S3 will get some of the features on the S4 through software updates. Premium Suite will come to the S3.
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I would care to challenge that. Yesterday, Samsung said the S3 will get some of the features on the S4 through software updates. Premium Suite will come to the S3.
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The international version will but we simply don't have the horsepower on the Snapdragon dual core to utilize those features. Remember that the S3 international uses a quad core Exynos chip, not a dual-core Snapdragon.
They will find a way to utilize it.
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They will find a way to utilize it.
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they can find a way to, but chances are, they won't. unfortunately for us...

your opinions on the SNAP model vs EXY model

Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
reanew said:
Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
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My taughts about the exynos 8 headed snake and the 4 headed snapdragon is that folks like myself in the USA once again got the stick up our arses. I once pridicted in the SGS3 thread that samsung would do exactly same as with sgs3 which was releaseing a dualcore in usa and quad core in the UK. And they advertise big gs3 quadcore to hype their sale pitch while putting the stick up costomers behind because obviously 90% people dont look at specs of their phone. Well once again its same,gs4 quad in usa while octacore UK. The whole excitement for me was the octacore and their new "big little idea" which was claim to save power consumption etc.
Anyway I own the gs4 snapdragon model now simply because I would have had to stick to 2G speed if I had gotten the exynos model due to lack of band support for network in USA.
The whole overheating thing is not new,the exynos sgs3 and the old snapdragon htc one I had own all over heated despite different cpu when playing games or doing heavy tasks. I also experience it with the gs4 but only while playing games. I must say that it looks like Samsung did spend more time tweaking the governor behavior because on light tasks while multy tasking the cpu dont just jump to the highest frequency as frequently as in their other phones as to consume power unnecessary. But all 4 cores goes online too quickly but at least they go offline fast. So theirs still stuff to be tuned that can dramatically improve cpu efficiency and function.plus wance we get some custom kernels to tweak the voltages of the cpu and gpu it should stop the overheating. Most times over heating is also caused by the cpu frequency ramping up to the highest speed and staying their too long. The snapdragon processor is very fast I must say. Havent had a slowdown since I bought the phone and for stock,battery life is verygood.I could go threw more than a day with medium to light tasks.
Also another thing that Samsung corrected was the oversaturatedness of the screen color which was awfull in the previous sgs3,the brightness of the screen have also improved while in the sunlight compare to the gs3 screen. Thankfully their was Andrelux that released his Perseus kernel in the gs3 section to combat that color problem and everything else I mentioned above plus more. Hopefully their will also be some good dev in the gs4 section to improve user experience. Overall I find the gs4 a decent upgrade weather it have the snapdragon or exynos since samsung corrected and improve upon most things and some that I may have forgot to mention.
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In the side by side tests I did, the i9500 beat the M919 in every area including the GPU, screen response, UI smoothness, HSPA+ data speeds, etc. As far as the heat is concerned I have read an equal amount of complaints on both forums.
I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
According to Engadget the Exynos bests the Snapdragon in about the same amount of tests as the Snapdragon beats the Exynos. A surprising result of their tests shows that the Snapdragon beats the big.LITTLE architecture in a video playback duration test by about 20%
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I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
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Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
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Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
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You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Im not going into pointless arguments with you. You clearly have not looked at the linkd I refered you too because then you would not be asking all the useless questions youre asking me.
This is why their is always pointless arguments,simply because reading is not emphasize enough on XDA to educate people on the topic before they begin to criticise and pout senseless discussions.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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You sound like a broken record. I own the M919 running stock and I have yet to experience any lags you mention. For me this is not a competition as which phone is faster,true speed is important but its about the technology behind the makeing and how well it balance in terms of speed and battery. Especially battery performance ,which I think is the reason behind this so call big little architecture samsung have came up with. After all how big are they gonna keep makeing each generation of phones in order to squeeze in a bit more juice into a bigger size battery to run these so call faster more powerfull processors each time a new device comes out, thus the big little thing. If you think about it battery technology have not change since the crack of smartphones and maybe further back but the high demands for speedy more battery hungry chips are in demand each day as productivity increases.
Now I wish I had the octa core to see how it works if any improvement but sadly I dont. From my experience so far with the M919,its very fast cause all 4 core kicks in immediately wether its a small or big task(mean it waste battery),it gets warm to hot too quick while playing games (battery waste again) but the graphics are excellent. Theirs lots of room for improvement on the processor such as a custom kernel to undervolt and regulate the cores to work more efficiently. I randomly left my phone ideling for 24hours and few hours connected to wifi at home and I had a 15% battery drain with about 7mins of use. I had nothing syncing. I think that was good but also can improve with kernel tweaks wance available.
Take note the amount of info I have given you on one device. I didn't just blahh out "m919 is garbage because its slow and I9500 is the fastest **** on the block" unless people just wanna look at benchmarks daily and say "I feel so proud my phone is the fastest ****". It maybe faster yes but right now the software can only function as fast as it was optomize to be if you understand. And I dont know where you get your intell from to pridict product updates and kernel development,im sure their will be kernels and updates available as same with older phones. No one is left out of anything.
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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True that if youre waiting on the carrier to release an update its a whole new story but if youre here on xda or aware of the community then you know thats not a problem.
Have you ever taught the Accuweather was optomize N design to run on the S3 flawless. I couldent evin find that wallpaper existance on the playstore.So its prob garbage cause theirs other accuweather live wallpaper available their that works fine.
Im currently running the "Ditalix live wallpaper" which was design for highend devices like the Galaxy S4 and GS3 to look beautiful and run flawless like silk and uses up the largest amount of memory I have ever seen for a wallpaper 256mb in the background,yet no lags. if you were to read the reviews for it on the playstore you would notice it indeed does not work on just any device. So if that can run so good on the M919 I dont see why a low rated Accuweather wallpaper for the old gs3 cannot unless like I said,it was specifically optomize for the gs3 device screen etc. Low fps + low resolution scenario. Anything will lag and look crappy with that case.
This is why prople are misleaded sometimes because a few people screwup and they wisper something is not good cause they had such a terrible experience when its not the device fault.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
Another day, another ****-measuring contest...
They're both top-tier devices. There are only a handful of comparable handsets, and the only ones I can think of that're clearly more powerful are the (China-only) Medfield-core Lenovo K-series.
The Exynos will probably be the winner between i9500/i9505, WHEN/IF the driver issues are worked out, but till then the best device is whichever one's in your hand.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
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Now you seem to be makeing more sense and posting a proper comment so people can actually make an intelligent decision. Unlike your first 2 posts.
Youre lucky to have good hsdpa+ in your area running I9500 cause when I had the international galaxy s3 tmobile had just made the transition over to support international bandwith for hsdpa+ and the speed and signal was terrible in my area. Had to use 2g speeds. Thats the reason I did not purchase the international model of the galaxy s4 this round,i dont care for lte,3G speed or 4G which I now have would do it for me. Im dont regret my purchase of the M919 cause so far my experience is good.
The only thing I could say to folks looking to buy in the USA and leaning towards the M919 is if possible stay away from tmobile and buy it non carrier branded from a reputable source if the price is right. Tmobile sells the phone at full price if you wanna avoid the monthly down payment but despite buying it at full price and already haveing a contract with them, they sell you it with a contract plus new number as part of the whole deal which is totally ridiculous. Then u have to go threw the idiotic process of canceling it wance u receive your device.
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With the S4 out for almost a week... will you get it now that you've seen it?

Now that I've seen the S4 and actualy got my hands on it and played with it for a little bit at the Samsung section in Best Buy, I actually think I now WILL be getting the S4 after previously thinking I was not gonna get it. Anyone else?
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Now that I've seen the S4 and actualy got my hands on it and played with it for a little bit at the Samsung section in Best Buy, I actually think I now WILL be getting the S4 after previously thinking I was not gonna get it. Anyone else?
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Not really since there's not much difference only slightly bigger screen and quad core all features are most likely to be ported to the s3. If I were to upgrade I would look into a phone like the HTC one or something but the s4 would be like a galaxy s3s in apple terms which is basically what they did lol
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Not really since there's not much difference only slightly bigger screen and quad core all features are most likely to be ported to the s3. If I were to upgrade I would look into a phone like the HTC one or something but the s4 would be like a galaxy s3s in apple terms which is basically what they did lol
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Lol idk bout that..
Not to mention that just like with the US S3, the US variant S4 only gets quad core instead of octo. Unless Samsung absolutely stuns me with the S5 I will be going back to HTC. I miss my Sensation, which was only SLIGHTLY less impressive then the S3. HTC doesn't give us last years crap while everyone else gets the big boy toys. Samsungs marketing strategy for US BLOWS. Change or lose me forever Sammy.
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Not to mention that just like with the US S3, the US variant S4 only gets quad core instead of octo. Unless Samsung absolutely stuns me with the S5 I will be going back to HTC. I miss my Sensation, which was only SLIGHTLY less impressive then the S3. HTC doesn't give us last years crap while everyone else gets the big boy toys. Samsungs marketing strategy for US BLOWS. Change or lose me forever Sammy.
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I've heard that it has less to do with their marketing and more to do with the limitations put on by either US carriers or the US chip manufacturers. I can't find the sources right now but I seriously doubt Samsung wants to make multiple versions of the same phone (it'd be much more to their advantage to make one version en masse rather than a few different ones).
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Not to mention that just like with the US S3, the US variant S4 only gets quad core instead of octo. Unless Samsung absolutely stuns me with the S5 I will be going back to HTC. I miss my Sensation, which was only SLIGHTLY less impressive then the S3. HTC doesn't give us last years crap while everyone else gets the big boy toys. Samsungs marketing strategy for US BLOWS. Change or lose me forever Sammy.
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I think it had to do with the chipsets used in each and the different networks here in the states.
And it's really not a matter of whether they want to or not, as I'm sure that they would rather only support one phone as its more effective and cost-efficient because the software and hardware developments would be made once and then distributed to ALL Samsung Xxxx phones. As topherk said, it's probably due to limitations set either by the carriers, or maybe even by the FCC.
And I'm sure you're not the first, or the last, to complain about the more minimalistic approach when it comes to Samsung releasing a phone for the states versus the international version of the same phone.
no because I enjoy my S3's 3G/4G SVDO capabilities meaning using data/phone at sametime and the S4 can only do this with 4G.....so hope the S5 has 3G and 4G SVDO..... must say the S4 hardware looks nice
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Not to mention that just like with the US S3, the US variant S4 only gets quad core instead of octo. Unless Samsung absolutely stuns me with the S5 I will be going back to HTC. I miss my Sensation, which was only SLIGHTLY less impressive then the S3. HTC doesn't give us last years crap while everyone else gets the big boy toys. Samsungs marketing strategy for US BLOWS. Change or lose me forever Sammy.
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Lol really? Every HTC phone I've had stopped getting updates as soon as a new HTC came out. But to each there own.
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sinisin said:
Not to mention that just like with the US S3, the US variant S4 only gets quad core instead of octo. Unless Samsung absolutely stuns me with the S5 I will be going back to HTC. I miss my Sensation, which was only SLIGHTLY less impressive then the S3. HTC doesn't give us last years crap while everyone else gets the big boy toys. Samsungs marketing strategy for US BLOWS. Change or lose me forever Sammy.
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this is a reason for me as well. it seems the u.s. gets a crappier version of the phone that is released internationally.i t may have to be due to carrier restrictions, politics, etc. either way it does not make me a happy consumer.
i hate my s3. i think its more due to carrier (sprint) and it's horrible "4g" coverage. I had a epic 4g before this and it blows the s3 away with data connection.
Nope sticking with my S3..
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this is a reason for me as well. it seems the u.s. gets a crappier version of the phone that is released internationally.i t may have to be due to carrier restrictions, politics, etc. either way it does not make me a happy consumer.
i hate my s3. i think its more due to carrier (sprint) and it's horrible "4g" coverage. I had a epic 4g before this and it blows the s3 away with data connection.
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That last comment is ridiculous, I had an Epic 4g while it was an amazing phone it doesn't even compare to the S3. My data and connection on the S3 is amazing. LTE is incredible fast and excellent for battery savings. This phone locks 22 satellites in a couple of seconds, the Epic was lucky to get 10 on a perfect day standing outside.
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Hmm... looks like I might be alone. And to add to it, I'd be buying it without an upgrade (aka full $600 price tag, after taxes probably more like $650). I'll have a bout a month or so before I have the money saved up.. going to Best Buy again today to play with it again lol.
It's either I get the S4 or a new basketball hoop, either way I' getting myself a nice present for the summer!
Wont be getting s4 didn't see that many features making me wanting to upgrade
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We can't call it an s3s because the screen gets bigger and and resolution went up
Also enough with you noobs saying the octa core is so much better
I don't know the exact details but the Octa core is just a a strong quad core and a low power quad core they aren't used together
Not a godly super powered 8 core
I'm going to get it but I July first when I can use my upgrade unless a way better phone is announced by then
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no because I enjoy my S3's 3G/4G SVDO capabilities meaning using data/phone at sametime and the S4 can only do this with 4G.
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Same here. This is a huge deal as far as I'm concerned.
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We can't call it an s3s because the screen gets bigger and and resolution went up
Also enough with you noobs saying the octa core is so much better
I don't know the exact details but the Octa core is just a a strong quad core and a low power quad core they aren't used together
Not a godly super powered 8 core
I'm going to get it but I July first when I can use my upgrade unless a way better phone is announced by then
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Nexus 5 is supposedly coming out around fall
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Lol really? Every HTC phone I've had stopped getting updates as soon as a new HTC came out. But to each there own.
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This ^^^^ htc might give you cutting edge, but you get one update and done, two if you're lucky... unless Sprint starts locking Samsung's bootloaders it's Samsung for me all the way...
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Nexus 5 is supposedly coming out around fall
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Nexus 5? MY upgrade needs to come NOW!
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Look it up. :trooper:
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This ^^^^ htc might give you cutting edge, but you get one update and done, two if you're lucky... unless Sprint starts locking Samsung's bootloaders it's Samsung for me all the way...
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Same, might even start going to the Nexus'
And yeah, there's no doubt that the Nexus 5 WILL come this year, the only question is who will make it, but so far it's looking like it's gonna be LG again
I'm not looking at any phone really right now. My contract is up next year, by then who knows what will be out. I would never waste $600+ on a phone no matter how good it is. Lol
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