Perheps a stupid HDMI question - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As the title states... I have a somewhat stupid question about the HDMI connection. When I connect to my laptop with the HDMI, does the phone charge? I havn´t even taken the cable out of the box, but I got curious...
Manneman// Sweden

The hdmi doesn't carry the necessary voltage to charge the device worked in the a/v sector for 6 years and never heard of a hdmi capable of charging
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It will not charge.
Off topic: You will try to use the arc's HDMI to a laptop? Good luck. I haven't seen a laptop like that yet, my laptop only has HDMI out function.

I think the HDMI is only for out video and audio never for charge!

It wall not charge best plug your USB cable in too .
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MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter **VIDEO INSIDE

I bought the Samsung MHL adapter through Amazon - Samsung MHL Adapter and I must say this has been of the best inexpensive purchases you buy for your Galaxy Nexus. I decided to make a quick video to show you how great it works, please enjoy!
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The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
thanks for the heads up. I may have to get one of these.
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Thanks for the video, it is really cool.
When I had my G2x with micro HDMI out, I bought all kines of cables to plug it into the TV from the comfort of my bed, and I really only used once or twice.
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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Full HDMI
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gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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It uses full HDMI
sstang2006 said:
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
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I think people who travel or game more will use it. I hook my phone up to hotel rooms to watch Netflix and my dish network programming/dvr. Gamers may want a bigger screen.
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How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
Using the HDMI adapter and playing games with a controller can only be done with a bluetooth controller? Is there any way I can use HDMI and a USB PS3/360 controller?
(using the PS3 wireless is not a option for me i cannot get the app and phone to work together)
josteink said:
How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
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to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
OMG I need me on of these. It's not a Amazon prime item so that mean I have to pay for shipping lol.
nice!
Which program you using for the emulators and to sync to wi mote
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psycho2097 said:
to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
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Wow. So emulator+wifi+bluetooth+mhl= dead phone. 500ma is not enough to keep the GN floating.
Seems like a huge oversight on Google's part or perhaps it's just a MHL limitation. I know data does not work, which is why people have to use BT. But 500ma, what a joke.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Awesome video and post, thanks!!
Does the MHL to HDMI work with Android Movies? I know on my stock Transformer TF101 HDMI out is blocked in Movies. ...worked fine for Netflix and others though.
As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
Thanks man! Gonna buy this ASAP
MK17 said:
As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
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Battery drain seems to be corroborated here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20128751&postcount=36
What a downer.
Great minds think alike though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20156851&postcount=46
So it looks like the only option is to use some sort of dual charging situation where one charges the MHL adapter and the other charges the phone via pogo.
Perhaps the native HDMI doc allows AC charging? I guess we will have to wait and see.

MHL HDMI Adapter and USB OTG Simultatneously

Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Unfortunately I don't believe its possible. I wish though...
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cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Yeah! Is it possible?
I ordered all components yesterday to test this exact thing. I will report back with my findings. I ordered the mhl adapter, HDMI cable, and the otg cable. I already have a micro SD reader that's extremely small. Total cost was $30 on amazon.... I also ordered a wii sensor bar that was around 6 bis. I'm also going to attempt to integrate the otg cable in a case. Pics will follow
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I think that isn't possible. Both MHL and USB OTG uses the same microusb port, but behind that there are different circuits. Depending on wich connector you plug in the hardware will know if you are connecting an usb or a HDMI.
More, the microusb on MHL connector is only for ac supply.
cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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From what ive read, it is not possible. Youre disabling usb to get hdmi function through 4 wires. And that function needs power.
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Since I'll be using them either way. It doesn't hurt to try.
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MHL and OTG
@justin94, please report back if you get it working. Actually, if you can get OTG to work at all with or without MHL let us know. I've gotten the MHL to work. But I need to connect some USB devices up, and from what I've read, the current Nexus stock firmware doesn't support OTG/Host.
Also, what OTG cable did you order? I've heard there are ones that don't work?
waiting for an answer.
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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justin94 said:
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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NO NAO~! lol. j/k
MHL will only charge the phone via USB. You can't use USB data. Bluetooth is your only option for external hardware input (controllers, etc... but not thumb drives)
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I said it would charge your phone at the same time, but it's limited to 500ma. Nexus reports as USB charging, not AC charging. So if you intend to watch a long movie and game real hard via emulation and bluetooth, your phone will run out of battery.
Another poor design decision. They should have just put a HDMI port separately. MHL fail.
The only saving grace will be using the pogo pins to charge the phone via AC so you can get 1A charging while using MHL.
MHL fail.
Update!!!
Just received the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. Its plug and play, however, it does require power..... so my hopes of getting this to work are almost over..... except that I fairly good with electronics. So I'm going to do some splicing and dicing and see what works.
Don't worry, if it works I will post a full tutorial
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Update bump.
Just got the otg cable. Tested and works with stick mount. Later on tonight I will try to get them working simultaneously
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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Unfortunately from what I understand that's all its for.
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Any news yet?
Sorry everyone. Due to some family issues I have really had time to sit down with array of electronics to try and make this work. Hopefully I can get to it before this weekend
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Justin94,
How do you plan to plug the MHL/HDMI adapter and USB OTG into the the GNex since it has one usb port. This has baffled my mind.
Some type of splitter configuration.
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[Q] E4GT HDMI Mirroring

Has anyone gotten hdmi mirroring or any hdmi output on the epic 4g touch? I bought the micro usb to hdmi adapter plugged it in and it did nothing, also searched for mirroring apps with no luck. Samsung mentions hdmi output for it in there specs on the e4gt. Does anyone know anything about it or gotten it to work?
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Has anyone gotten hdmi mirroring or any hdmi output on the epic 4g touch? I bought the micro usb to hdmi adapter plugged it in and it did nothing, also searched for mirroring apps with no luck. Samsung mentions hdmi output for it in there specs on the e4gt. Does anyone know anything about it or gotten it to work?
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Have you tried plugging in your charger while using it?mine came with a micro usb port so i can charge and stream but only works while charging. Hopefully that helps
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fiveipads said:
Has anyone gotten hdmi mirroring or any hdmi output on the epic 4g touch? I bought the micro usb to hdmi adapter plugged it in and it did nothing, also searched for mirroring apps with no luck. Samsung mentions hdmi output for it in there specs on the e4gt. Does anyone know anything about it or gotten it to work?
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Did you plug power into the adapter??
Yeah, it works great for me. Does need AC power to drive the high def.
I ordered the adapter that was recommended on these forums; can't recall the name but I can find out.
Which adapter do you have?
As long as you use TouchWiz it will just work. It NEEDS an AC adapter to power it, I don't think USB port on a computer will work. If it's plugged into the wall, the TV, and the phone, then you may need to try a different TV or monitor.
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I have a cable
I have a HDMI to MicroUSB that I bought at Target.
When I plug it in, it doesn't work. This is a scam considering it was $20 and my phone needs to be plugged in for anything to work... LOL so learn from my mistake and don't buy a single cable. You need to buy the thing where you can plug your phone into the HDMI and power all at once. Kinda like this one (I think. I'm not responsible if you buy it and its total crap)
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapter-IMPROVED-Protocol-Sensation/dp/B005F9W6DU

Looking for a MHL Cable for Z3C...

I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
lgrangeia said:
I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Works fine for me.
I don't know about the keyboard part, but that shouldn't be a problem I assume.
This particular one is sold out, but shouldn't be hard to find someone else that sells the same. Only bad part is that the power cable part is short.
Thanks!
Meanwhile I found these:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271566140891
I'm tempted to buy one, and see if they work.
Im wondering if we can output 1080p since z3c screen is only 720p
I'm amazed with this phone. Just tested a USB Ethernet dongle and it worked flawlessly out of the box.
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lgrangeia said:
Thanks!
Meanwhile I found these:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271566140891
I'm tempted to buy one, and see if they work.
Im wondering if we can output 1080p since z3c screen is only 720p
I'm amazed with this phone. Just tested a USB Ethernet dongle and it worked flawlessly out of the box.
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z3c can output 4k videos over mhl, phone screen resolution has nothing to do with it
lgrangeia said:
I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
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If your TV has an MHL port, passive MHL cable and you have an adapter, the extra micro usb on the adapter should be ok for USB OTG.
Sorry, but this a dumb, MHL noob question. Will any old micro-usb MHL adapter work, or do I need one specifically for a Sony phone or something?
Thanks

USB C to HDMI

Has anyone gotten one to work I bought 2 from Amazon and none seem to work. Maybe I thought wrong but thought HTC 10 has displayport output.
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I tried one at work last week, worked fine. Not sure what kind i got, but was not a problem.
OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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[Cruzer] said:
OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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I've tried 2. One worked, one didn't. Both were designed for macbooks, so ymmv.
I will try this out when I get the chance.
Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.
Haldi4803 said:
Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.
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damn thats not good news. still haven't had the time to head to local bestbuy. Hoping someone got one to work and point to an amazon link really miss having to show movies (for my kids) on the screen. Still have my MHL adpater for htc m9.
Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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lsblack said:
Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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Yes I know can't use MHL for HTC 10.. Just saying I miss that feature. And almost nagging at me still is the MHL cable. starring at me saying why did you get of the M9 [emoji14] you could be watching videos on the 70inch right now.
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Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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I ran into the same problem the mac pro adapter, it would charge or display not both. I went this route Microsoft - Wireless Display Adapter V2 receiver - Dark-Titanium and use HTC connect. It works great.
lsblack said:
Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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Just curious... you've had no problem charging this way? I wasn't sure if the 10 could take a regular USB-C charger or if it needed a QC compatible charger.
Partial answer. The HTC-10 does not need QC2 charger, just might charge slower or at various rates supplied by charger. I use several different chargers I had for my micro USB phones. Both using micro-USBC adapters, and USB-C cable direct. What I haven't tried (per your question), is fully charging via the mentioned display adapter. I doubt that the will recognize it as QC2. I will try this with the HTC supplied charger.
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Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
1stGGMan said:
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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[Cruzer] said:
Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
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I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?
1stGGMan said:
I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?
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ok thanks, i'll go ahead and get one and test myself.. thanks again for the info.
Pls ask me! For 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK support any cable HDMI?
Sorry my English
1stGGMan said:
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?
radensb said:
Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?
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I use mine all the time at work for about 3-7 hours a night (5 nights a week) - have it plugged into spare monitor to watch youtube etc.
I using the default charger that came with the HTC 10 and only gets slightly warm (charger & adaptor) when I been playing games for a hour or two.
Been thinking about purchasing another one as a backup.

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