I noticed that there would sometimes (50% chance) that there will be a noticeable 1 second delay when pushing the power button and when the display actually turns on. It's annoying because sometimes i'll want to check the time, and i'll push the button as i'm taking it out of my pocket only to be met with a black display still.
i tried turning off the pattern lock thinkng that was it but still having the same problem.
i'm completely stock.
No delay here...when I press the power button, my display comes on instantly.
tracerit said:
I noticed that there would sometimes (50% chance) that there will be a noticeable 1 second delay when pushing the power button and when the display actually turns on. It's annoying because sometimes i'll want to check the time, and i'll push the button as i'm taking it out of my pocket only to be met with a black display still.
i tried turning off the pattern lock thinkng that was it but still having the same problem.
i'm completely stock.
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This had already been discussed id you remove your sdcard the delay will go away.
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***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265716
Did you really just say 1 sec???? Lol really. If your Checking the time I doubt 1 sec is that annoying!
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alnova1 said:
***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life..
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Still thread ****ting on every topic about the delay?
Its obvious why the delay doesn't bother you; you already have too much time on your hands.
Otherwise, it's an obvious flaw in the phone. Why don't you let other people worry about their own lives and how many seconds are wasted.
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Did you really just say 1 sec???? Lol really. If your Checking the time I doubt 1 sec is that annoying!
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1 second is annoying when YOU'RE used to the display coming on instantly.
thanks for the link, i'll check it out.
yes its terrible anyone have a fix to this yet
If it's because of the SD card, trying increasing the SD Card Read Ahead Buffer. It can be built into the kernel or changed with a few market apps, or even a script. It'll also make photos/videos/anything from the SD card load faster.
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Still thread ****ting on every topic about the delay?
Its obvious why the delay doesn't bother you; you already have too much time on your hands.
Otherwise, it's an obvious flaw in the phone. Why don't you let other people worry about their own lives and how many seconds are wasted.
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Aren't we touchy! As long as people keep making threads about it , yes I will still state my opinion on the matter just like you are...have a good day sir.
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***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265716
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That's what I was thinking, who cares. Now that I check mine has the same thing, I never noticed and I really don't give a **** to try and "fix" this.. lol
Sean-El said:
That's what I was thinking, who cares. Now that I check mine has the same thing, I never noticed and I really don't give a **** to try and "fix" this.. lol
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Amen brother...
Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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Agreed, especially since it's a 32GB card and it's transferable between phones...
Screen lags reminds me of pre-pay gas purchases.
The last 2cents always take forever to complete.
Sycobob said:
Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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This is your first smartphone and it stood out to you? I have had 15 smartphones and would have never noticed it until someone mentioned it. Like I said, I don't see this as an issue so I will speak my peace as you can to..we agree to disagree and just because we don't see it your way doesn't make us a douche....sorry for the loss of time in your life I'm...oh ****!...I missed the Andy Rooney farewell on 60 minutes because I couldn't get the time on my phone because it came up 2 seconds too late!
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This is your first smartphone and it stood out to you? I have had 15 smartphones and would have never noticed it until someone mentioned it. Like I said, I don't see this as an issue so I will speak my peace as you can to..we agree to disagree and just because we don't see it your way doesn't make us a douche....sorry for the loss of time in your life I'm...oh ****!...I missed the Andy Rooney farewell on 60 minutes because I couldn't get the time on my phone because it came up 2 seconds too late!
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It's not a HUGE issue, but it is something that should be fixed.
In fact, just to move things forward, I tried increasing the SD Read Ahead Buffer with an app "SD Card Booster" or some name like that, which doesn't decrease the speed of the screen coming on, but does drastically cause photos and other things to load faster when you, say, open the Gallery. That was expected though. We used to increase it on the OG Evo.
Ive owned a few smartphones noticed ET lag after 3rd wake up.
First thing I thought of was Sprint Blackberry curve 8330-M.
It did the same thing drove me crazy lol
I tell you what...take your phone back to Sprint and tell them you have a 2 second lag and see what they say...maybe you can get a new phone...its obviously a defect...
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I tell you what...take your phone back to Sprint and tell them you have a 2 second lag and see what they say...maybe you can get a new phone...its obviously a defect...
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Its not hardware defect....its software related thus Sprint will push you out the door no new phone in hand with chuckles from rep.
Will update to fix issue come?
Never! so those that think samsung gives a care you better think twice.
Oh I forgot,
My HP Ipaq 6515 had wake up lag with SD card as well
Related
one thing i've been curious about and haven't seen a thing on in any of the numerous impression/review articles i've read is a note on the the speed of the handset's boot up time.
i've got a droid now, and i absolutely hate how long it takes to transition from powered-off to operational. i go off and do something else, and it takes long enough where i've forgotten about it by the time it turns fully on.
so how long is the EVO's?
Probably because almost everybody leaves their phone on...and don't care how long it takes really...
1 minute or 5 minutes really don't bother most people including me, so thats why it isn't really said in reviews.
I think I saw somewhere where they said it was kind of long. I assume because of the startup animations. I don't know anything about rooting but from what i've gathered you might be able to disable some of those.
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Probably because almost everybody leaves their phone on...and don't care how long it takes really...
1 minute or 5 minutes really don't bother most people including me, so thats why it isn't really said in reviews.
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ok?
...and your point posting in this thread was? i don't care how many people leave their phone on, or the time frame that a phone needs to turn on in so not to bother people; i was asking how long the EVO takes to boot up. so thanks a lot.
In answer to your question... fast! Most boots seem to take about 20 to 30 seconds for me but one boot did take a minute. Regardless, it's faster than any Sense phone I have ever seen. throw AOSP on here and it should boot even faster.
awesome - appreciate the answer.
and yeah, i could imagine it powering up a bit faster with some tuning from xda.
I seen one IO user say his boot time on the Evo was less than a minute but I assume it also is a bare, non-custom, no extra apps device.
Boot time is definitely less than a minute, I'm using the HelixLauncher2 so everything comes up real fast after boot.
It's night and day compared to my old Hero.
I was just going to ask about this...
From fully OFF to the second I can see my lock screen(note, not fully operational yet, but can see the lockscreen), takes 1 minute and 20 seconds. Thats running Fresh 3.3 with whatever kernel comes with that Rom. A kid I go to school with, he has the same rom and kernel, his boots up to fully operational in about 45 seconds.
Just wondering if I can shorten that somehow.
Also, wondering if music and pictures have anything to do with it? Having to load all of that from the sd card might cause the delay?
Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
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Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
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Quick, to the archives Robin!!
Alright, I'm sorry lol. But you cant be THAT upset with me, I searched before posting. Just didnt take note of the dates. sorry!
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Alright, I'm sorry lol. But you cant be THAT upset with me, I searched before posting. Just didnt take note of the dates. sorry!
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I was just having fun and not neccessarily really teasing. At least you searched and this was the result so nothing too serious really
Same here...I wasn't busting your chops...just thought it was funny that you searched that deep...kudos on the search!
It's all good.
That, my lads, may have been epic.
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Mine takes around....a minute and a half. This is with a 32GB microSD card, Apps2SD (with virtually every app I use, including most of the stock apps installed on my microSD, and dalvik on the cache partition.)
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That, my lads, may have been epic.
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ok... lad.. lol
freeza said:
Mine takes around....a minute and a half. This is with a 32GB microSD card, Apps2SD (with virtually every app I use, including most of the stock apps installed on my microSD, and dalvik on the cache partition.)
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Where did yoou get your 32GB card from?
klbjr said:
Where did yoou get your 32GB card from?
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Just picked up the phone today and noticed a long delay between pressing the power button and the screen waking up. When it is plugged in there is no delay at all. The delay occurs whenever the phone is disconnected from a power source. It is about a 2 second delay. Is anyone else experiencing this? Best Buy didn't have another unit and the Sprint store was useless and wouldn't unplug their demo unit to compare.
I saw a thread concerning the standard Galaxy S II, but nothing Epic 4G Touch specific.
Thanks.
*update*
Just to make things perfectly clear, here is a video of the delay time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJc_nYuwac
*older update*
Downloaded Soft Locker Free and it allows the phone to instantly wake with no delay by bypassing a deep sleep mode. I'm unsure about how detrimental this is to the battery, but at least it's a fix. I'd still like to know if all Epic Touch phones have the wake up lag, though.
mine is doing this too.. are you using a SD Card wallpaper? I am. not sure if thats affecting things.
I have not noticed any delays on mine.
I have noticed this as well. I'm using a stock wallpaper.
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thedeadletters said:
Just picked up the phone today and noticed a long delay between pressing the power button and the screen waking up. When it is plugged in there is no delay at all. The delay occurs whenever the phone is disconnected from a power source. It is about a 2 second delay. Is anyone else experiencing this? Best Buy didn't have another unit and the Sprint store was useless and wouldn't unplug their demo unit to compare.
I saw a thread concerning the standard Galaxy S II, but nothing Epic 4G Touch specific.
Thanks.
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Downloaded Soft Locker Free and it allows the phone to instantly wake with no delay by bypassing a deep sleep mode. I'm unsure about how detrimental this is to the battery, but at least it's a fix. I'd still like to know if all Epic Touch phones have the wake up lag, though.
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You shouldn't do that, it will be detrimental to your battery. Deep sleep mode means that the processor is technically off, provided the phone doesn't have any tasks to run while the screen is off.
Its perfectly natural for your phone to wake up immediately when plugged in, because that's how samsung designed the galaxy's. No need to deep sleep when the phone's getting a charge.
By restricting your phone from sleeping (affectionately referred to as wake lock),your forcing your processor to run for nothing, most likely at 200mhz. When it's all said and done, I estimate you'll end up shaving off about 5 hours of battery life. Not worth it to me, just learn to deal with 1 sec it takes to wake up the phone.
On a lighter note, I find it amusing that you've installed an app that now makes the phone do something that is commonly known as a bug and a lot of people spend their time trying to squash. Lol.
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squshy 7 said:
On a lighter note, I find it amusing that you've installed an app that now makes the phone do something that is commonly known as a bug and a lot of people spend their time trying to squash. Lol.
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+1LOL*10
The amount of threads I have read, the hundreds if not thousands of posts I have seen the hundreds of developers that have all chased wake-lock bugs are all disgusted right now. Thousands if not tens of thousands of man hours have gone into chasing the wake-lock bugs down on many many many devices....in roms, in kernels in conflicting apps. For years. Sometimes its simple, sometimes it's given up on completely.
You are right. Wow, just, wow.
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+1LOL*10
The amount of threads I have read, the hundreds if not thousands of posts I have seen the hundreds of developers that have all chased wake-lock bugs are all disgusted right now. Thousands if not tens of thousands of man hours have gone into chasing the wake-lock bugs down on many many many devices....in roms, in kernels in conflicting apps. For years. Sometimes its simple, sometimes it's given up on completely.
You are right. Wow, just, wow.
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Lol, I'm actually crying a little from laughter. The scenario you described was exactly what went through my head when I wrote that
EDIT: to the OP, this is all in jest, no offense meant. But seriously, don't wake lock your phone.
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I've noticed it too, but it isn't too bad of a lag. Not snappy like the EVO 4G, but not a dealbreaker, not on this.
Don't wakelock the phone.
Voluntarily wake locking a phone? Haven't heard that before lol
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Journeyjeans said:
I've noticed it too, but it isn't too bad of a lag. Not snappy like the EVO 4G, but not a dealbreaker, not on this.
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Thanks for all the responses. My past Android phones (Evo and Evo 3D) didn't have any delay whatsoever, which is the origin of the original post. The power of the Galaxy S2 phones is pretty much legendary, which is why I'm surprised about this power saving feature. Reviews boast quick boot times, but I would argue that a regular wake time is much more useful and realistic to have. I do understand the basic premise that a powerful phone consumes more battery, but that didn't make any other dual core phone I've seen require this precaution.
Therefore, why is it that others forego this feature if it ultimately saves so much battery that Samsung has made it a default feature on their latest phones?
Updated the OP with a video. Please view and tell me if this is the norm.
I watched the video, mine is not that slow delay.
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I watched the video, mine is not that slow delay.
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+1 return it
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I wouldn't return it Hold tight for custom rom.
I'm sure tweak will be around the corner to improve wake up response
sling said:
I wouldn't return it Hold tight for custom rom.
I'm sure tweak will be around the corner to improve wake up response
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Funny how mine has all my apps on it... (over 40) and a **** load of music... And for the life of me I cant get it go lag like that.... I had a refurbished evo 3d that did that... I called sprint.after factory reset and.a few battery pulls... Id just return it.
roms dont fix all bugs let alone one random wake lag problem and the op may have to deal with it as most of us dont have lag like that...
@op if you got it from a store id bring it in.... if a rep says its suppose to do that.... Tell them your older android phone didnt do it... Then ask to speak to a manager
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Yeah... I had a feeling it was worse than it should have been. Though it's true a custom ROM could fix it, it would probably implement a fix similar to Soft Locker (which is obviously shunned for its battery draining ability). Also, I'd much rather have a device in proper working order to begin with. The Best Buy I got it from only had 2 on launch day, so here's hoping I find one that has it in stock.
Thanks for all the replies.
My delay is similar to the video. How does everyone else compare after seeing the video?
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I had the same issue. Move the pic from ur sd card to ur internal. Open in using myfiles and set as lockscreen
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Thanks. Stupid question but how do I move it. I only know how using root explorer on a rooted phone.
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Hi everyone,
New GN,
ITLF41
19250UGKL1
yakjuux
4.01
I've only unlocked it, haven't done anything else.
I was only replying to a text message and in the middle of text, GN froze and the screen went black with a white line across top of screen.
Seemed to occur while the auto-rotate function was trying to rotate screen.
I also noticed the auto rotate on my GN does not work well at all. Sometimes it does, sometimes it will not no matter how long I wait.
Nothing worked, had to pull battery.
Seems fine after replacing battery.
I wouldn't be concerned but for the fact that I was not using 3rd party apps or a different rom. The force 2d option is off.
Is maybe something funky with the GN auto-rotate feature in 4.01?
test4echo said:
Hi everyone,
New GN,
ITLF41
19250UGKL1
yakjuux
4.01
I've only unlocked it, haven't done anything else.
I was only replying to a text message and in the middle of text, GN froze and the screen went black with a white line across top of screen.
Seemed to occur while the auto-rotate function was trying to rotate screen.
I also noticed the auto rotate on my GN does not work well at all. Sometimes it does, sometimes it will not no matter how long I wait.
Nothing worked, had to pull battery.
Seems fine after replacing battery.
I wouldn't be concerned but for the fact that I was not using 3rd party apps or a different rom. The force 2d option is off.
Is maybe something funky with the GN auto-rotate feature in 4.01?
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Yes, versions 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 fix a LOT of little issues with the GN. They really should've released the phone with one of those 2 versions rather than 4.0.1.
I don't think you should be too worried about battery pulls unless they happen more often than you like.
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
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Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
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? when do you pull a battery out of a computer?
... haven't received a reboot since day one.
OJ in Compton said:
Yes, versions 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 fix a LOT of little issues with the GN. They really should've released the phone with one of those 2 versions rather than 4.0.1.
I don't think you should be too worried about battery pulls unless they happen more often than you like.
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Ok great!
This is my first smart phone EVER....lol
Its a tough go catching up with all I've missed.
Thanks!
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Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
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You really shouldn't be forcefully pulling the battery every week, that's terrible advice!
Goddamn it.....that's why I said "reboot" first! Lol!
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Simer03 said:
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
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I'm a Network Admin for a large School Board. I know its strange I know nothing about smart Phones but I do know much about Wireless/Routers/switches and Computers.
If your rebooting computers once a week something is amiss....lol
I have servers and clients that have uptimes of 1 year+ before an update requires me to down a server or re-image a client.
In my case, if what had happened to my NEW GN happened on one of my OES2 Linux servers, Id be scrambling until the issue was found and fixed and i'd be none to happy.
But alas, a server is not a cell phone.
I hope it was a just a freak isolated incident.
You guys...I wasn't saying that u HAD to...if u HAVE to, then there's problems....but if u do it just because, it'll get rid of the little things, like the bug he has
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You guys...I wasn't saying that u HAD to...if u HAVE to, then there's problems....but if u do it just because, it'll get rid of the little things, like the bug he has
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LMAO...agreed!
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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Simer03 said:
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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One very simple reason: If you pull the battery in a bad moment, e.g. right when the hardware is writing something to the Flash memory, you might (soft-) brick your phone and lose all the data on it.
Simer03 said:
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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Well because,
If I have to keep pulling the battery (which is NOT occurring thankfully so far) then I would say something is wrong and its not just a software bug. I would call it a blue screen of death in computer terms.
That could be anything from a hardware fault (Memory/CPU/IO sub system..etc) That would for me, mean taking it back.
A hard reset may temporarily fix the issue. But it doesn't solve the underlying problems.
I'm hoping the error was a one off. If it never occurs again, then we're good to go.
If it does, its goin back.
Same thing happened to me, the weird thing is it happened right after I completely reset the phone...
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Same thing happened to me, the weird thing is it happened right after I completely reset the phone...
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Yea its strange...
In my case the Auto rotate feature seems to be the common theme for funkyness.
Sometimes its quick, less than a second, sometimes it doesn't move at all.....
Then, a hard lock.
I realize that 4.02 and .03 fix some bugs but I have the Canadian ver. and google is not gonna update OTA for my NG.
I'm not ready for the whole, flash to "google's" stock rom yet. I just learned to unlock it...lol. If it locks again i'll try that. If it don't i'll leave well enough alone.
Oh by the way, to the Admins, sorry for not posting in the Q&A section. I though i was in the Q&A, my mistake.
Please by all means move the thread.
zephiK said:
? when do you pull a battery out of a computer?
... haven't received a reboot since day one.
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Actually, I have to replace cmos batteries all the time.
Usually they are good for 4 or 5 years but sometimes not.
Some people don't know what "Hit F1 to continue" means and I get calls all the time.
So yes, its quite common to have to pull a bad battery when dealing with 2,000+ PC's ...
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I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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Because I use a otterbox with my Galaxy Nexus and it's not very pleasent to keep taking my phone out of it's hard shell case and putting it back in?
Pulling the battery is always a last resort. If the phone is frozen, that is fine to pull the battery or you can hold power on the phone and it'll turn off by itself (not sure if this is in the GN but it was in Galaxy S1).
@test4echo: That's not the experience of a daily person. Not everyone deals with 2,000+ people on computers.
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@test4echo: That's not the experience of a daily person. Not everyone deals with 2,000+ people on computers.
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You are correct. Its not a common everyday thing for most.
I was just suggesting a legit reason for why anyone would need to pull a computer battery.
On another note, i agree with you that having an otterbox case makes it even more of a pain to have to pull the battery.
I just had another freeze up while trying to get back to the main page using the launcher.
Im getting worried now. I've had this phone for 2 weeks and it was great until today....
I think I'm gonna bring it back to virgin just to be safe before my 30 days is up.
If its just software then the new one will do it as well but at at least I'll know thats what it is and either wait for samsung updates or update manually.
Again....nowhere in my response did I say u HAVE to pull the battery every week....I simply said its best if u do, nobody is gonna force u to! But when u do get a bug...pull that battery, and if it keeps happening, send it for warranty...simple
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Issue: \data partititon become corrupt for no obvious reason.
Manifests itself through: Freezes followed eventually by (endless) reboots
When: Randomly when you install new apps (may be every day as it can happen only every other week/month), or setting up apps (like Twitter, mail, etc)
Temporary solution: Re-flash Samsung FW but lose ALL YOUR DATA. Attention: CWM restore will not fix the problem!
---- Here goes a link to the fabulous mskip's tutorial, you will find here everything you need to get it back up temporarily
I experienced this in 401, 402, 403 and 404, some were expecting better data integrity in 404... I confirm this is not the case
I would not go as far as saying that this is 100% the reason, but it looks like the NAND quality is craaaaaap! There is no external SD card, Android should be able to do a perfect job now at handling info and preserving quality of data.
I will contact Samsung and ask for a refund (if at all possible)... Disgusting thing to put such a piece of s''t on the market without proper testing and call it "flagship/pure Google experience". This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
Any advice, I am inetersted, have tried pretty much everything so far and did not solve the problem...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE? Let your voice heard...
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE?
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No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
David Horn said:
No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Agree as well ..seems more like rubbish
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David Horn said:
No. Could it be possible you're overreacting?
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Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
KWKSLVR said:
Umm, sounds like you need a replacement phone.
Deep breath....deep breath.
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Right While i'm catching my breath, found another thread pointing to the same issue IMHO (didn't not see it initially):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490815
Attempting to contact Samsung already...
vulpy said:
Thanks David, you're of great help :/
Overreacting? Glad you had a better sample, I bet you would "overreact" as well if you spent 500£ on a piece of junk losing all you data on a daily basis.
But hey, this is not happening to you, right ?
Community means lots of people, some are here to help, others just looking for a social life while trolling on this forum.
Sorry mate, I am trying to get through to the first category...
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Your first post came across as a hysterical rant - this is the first I've heard of the problem so it's not affecting many phones, and ultimately Samsung are going to have the occasional dodgy NAND chip. Sounds like you got one.
If you'd had several phones and they'd all exhibited this problem you'd be right to be peeved, but it simply sounds like you've been unlucky and are pissed off about it. Have you even discussed it with Samsung's tech support or taken it back to the shop you bought it from?
And accusing an XDA recognised developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
I've not heard of other people having this problem with the Gnex? Who are these other people having this same problem? Maybe speak with them and see if a replacement phone might solve the problem. I really hope you can get this fixed and not give up on such a great platform.
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This is not an isolated issue, it happens to at least half of the people around and the others may have not seen it yet (it all depends on how often you manipulate data on the phone)...
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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...And accusing an XDA recognized developer of trolling is not a great start to your time here.
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Respect for your dev background (haven't used any of your ROMs yet), in all fairness I'm far less impressed with your communication skills... I must agree though, my message may have come across as too abrupt and you're right again, I am going to sort it out with Samsung...
Did not mean to get people horrified, rather to blow the whistle on a worrying and annoying bug and smth people may consider if they come across or consider a purchase.
For having worked in the mobile comm semiconductors space for years, I know just what sets apart a serious company from a me-too profile. Surprised to see Samsung having this king of issues. Normally they are ironed out easily though SW regression tests and HW stress processes (at least at serious OEMs).
I will let one of the moderators judge if my crime is so serious, your ego will survive, I'm sure I will come back when/if issue solved (or in good progress).
yeah, mine is fine. If it was a widespread problem I would back your corner, but I seems rather isolated. Rather then cause mass hysteria I would say you need to return your handset
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This happened to mine. But only once.
Quite frustrating, as my phone is my alarm clock and it was bootlooping when I needed to go to sleep!
However, a reflash of the 4.0.2 stock images sorted it out, and no problems since. I'm pretty sure I caused it by pulling out the battery at some sensitive point in a reboot or something.
If this happens to you frequently, then you need to exchange your phone.
Also, I think this could be a pretty good resource as opposed to a rant if you put your mind to it. I'm not a developer, but I'm also not a total n00b, and it took me a little while to figure out how to fix the problem, when I had it. I'm sure there are people out there who would appreciate a guide.
In this thread, op is going through that time of the month, when was his own modification back fires in his face, his explosive emotions reek havoc on an online forum.
If you want to see a device with bad nand memory, see the HTC Desire S forum .
Also the reboots and freezes I used to experience on my device were application related. Device hasn't frozen, nor rebooted in about *looks at up time* .. 27 days .
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The burden of evidence is on you bro. That is a pretty bold claim.
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... I was actually referring to a poll in another thread (link in this thread) concluding that half of the people who answered have experienced freezes and reboots... it may be biased somewhat by the fact that people who experienced the issue are more likely to vote than those who didn't... maybe an overstatement from me.
Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
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First I heard about this too. I've flashed tons of roms and mods and constantly installing uninstalling apps.
The GNex has been anything but non-stable. I think I've had to pull the battery once or twice since ownership. Never heard anyone complain about randomly losing all their data... especially not daily. Perhaps on a bad flash in CWM.
Maybe you should look into a super wipe that completely erases everything, deletes the partition tables and recreates everything from scratch. Maybe it'll help but it honestly sounds defective.
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Thanks Player911... Interesting idea, was thinking as well to do a total wipe and sort of a sector-by-sector reformat, but could not find a way of doing it. Is there any tool that would allow me to do it? Maybe this will isolate bad sectors...
Will check shortly with Samsung folks, thanks mate! (what slows me down is the fact that I'm currently travelling to the US and the guarantee is only European and it's Sunday= hotline is closed in Europe).
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Get the odd reboot (Chrome seems to provoke, strangely) but zero data corruption in 3+ months of heavy use. (4.0.3 AOKP)
Sorry, no endemic fault that I can see here (from reading these forums) and if I were you I'd be looking for a warranty replacement. Refund will depend on your location and supplier and duration of ownership.
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Uhh, I don't believe my reboots are due to this. Just saying. That whole thread does not point to your theory as the issue. I'm gonna go ahead and call this myth busted and suggest you go get a replacement because this is just another extremist "my phone is busted but I refuse to get a new one" thread.
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You've been Samsunged
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One thing I noticed with my phone that was laggy was the recent apps button. I fixed it by running art in developers option. Let it restart and let it do its android is upgrading apps. Once it does that let it boot up. Go back to developers option and change back to dalvic. Then it will restart and boot up again. After that check your recent apps button to see if it's quicker with no delay. Worked for me so let me know if it works for you.
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No change for me after doing that.
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work for me
I only have about a half second delay from hitting the button until it shows up on screen. Is that really a problem? Lmao
Nitroglycerin said:
I only have about a half second delay from hitting the button until it shows up on screen. Is that really a problem? Lmao
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It has been repeatedly posted by different users and on the other note forums as an issue for some. There's a post sonewhere on this forum claiming Samsung acknowledged the delay. A 1-2 second delay is annoying and unnecessary on a new flagship phone. Regardless it worked for me.
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It has been repeatedly posted by different users and on the other note forums as an issue for some. There's a post sonewhere on this forum claiming Samsung acknowledged the delay. A 1-2 second delay is annoying and unnecessary on a new flagship phone. Regardless it worked for me.
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Don't have a delay anymore after doing this.
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I noticed this when I switched back to dalvic so that I can access my private mode files (doesnt work on art!). My device was faster overall on art and I can't wait for android L so I can use art exclusively.
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Don't have a delay anymore after doing this.
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Yes, I was agreeing with you. Tried it and while the recent button was even faster on art, switching back to dalvic has definitely made a difference for me. Thank you for the tip.
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It has been repeatedly posted by different users and on the other note forums as an issue for some. There's a post sonewhere on this forum claiming Samsung acknowledged the delay. A 1-2 second delay is annoying and unnecessary on a new flagship phone. Regardless it worked for me.
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Well, I'm glad it worked for you. Seriously.
Honestly though, if anyone is legitimately annoyed over a second or two delay, then your lives must be perfect in every other conceivable way. Sure, it's 2014, and I get it, but c'mon. A 1-2 second delay is nothing.
Took like 25 mins to change over to ART but this worked for me, thanks. The delay was annoying even in my far from perfect life.
I tried this and didn't see much difference between ART and dalvik. There was a lot more lag on ART for me and the recent apps still had a delay.
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Did nothing for me but worth a try
While I currently only have about a 1/2 second delay, I wonder if it will slowly creep back to being slow over time.
Also, how does it calculate what is recent? Is it a set time period or just a list of the last X apps used?
Likely last used. That's what it seems anyway
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didnt work for me
I have the Canadian rogers version and those steps did not work for me. Cannot wait for Android L update come Sammy push the update.
I have not had any lag with this button since the day I got it. A friend of mine who is on Sprint has a delay. Annoying? Yeah maybe a little but if your schedule is so tight that a 1 second delay is going to cause mass chaos, you really need to look at your schedule and your priorities.
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I have not had any lag with this button since the day I got it. A friend of mine who is on Sprint has a delay. Annoying? Yeah maybe a little but if your schedule is so tight that a 1 second delay is going to cause mass chaos, you really need to look at your schedule and your priorities.
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too bad there's no smiley for rolling my eyes... when someone upgrades to a new phone, you'd expect it to be faster. 1-2s isn't that bad "in the grand scheme" as you and a couple others illogically point out. the difference is pressing this button more than 10-20x a day, it starts to make you wonder what's wrong with this phone.
lastly, it's sad that you felt compelled to come into a thread and throw your judgement around on other people's lives. i could say i feel sorry for you that your life is so slow and lackadaisical that you're able to easy tolerate delays throughout your day. but i wouldn't do that.
onwards and upwards on your slow climb to nowhere :highfive:
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too bad there's no smiley for rolling my eyes... when someone upgrades to a new phone, you'd expect it to be faster. 1-2s isn't that bad "in the grand scheme" as you and a couple others illogically point out. the difference is pressing this button more than 10-20x a day, it starts to make you wonder what's wrong with this phone.
lastly, it's sad that you felt compelled to come into a thread and throw your judgement around on other people's lives. i could say i feel sorry for you that your life is so slow and lackadaisical that you're able to easy tolerate delays throughout your day. but i wouldn't do that.
onwards and upwards on your slow climb to nowhere :highfive:
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AGREED. I was searching for this exact problem when I found this thread. I only bought a Note 4 because I broke my Note 2, my thoughts were 'Well, I guess i'll have a faster phone?' even If its 700$... imagine my dismay to find the phone SLOWER than my previous one. my life is far from perfect, which is why spending an extra 400-500 for a note 4 over a note 2 means I expect speed. and you know this, maaaaaaaaan.
After disabling multi window the lag is almost gone. I think the lag is due to figuring out wich of the recent apps suport multi window. it's definitely a software optimisation issue as the galaxy s6 doesn't have this problem and it also supports multi window. I don't know if it is as complex as the multi window of the note 4. Try it and tell me if this helped. Sorry if this has already been posted, but honestly I didn't read all the posts in this thread
art question
Where is the art setting in developers mode? I looked over every button and can't find it.