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Screen brightness

I just exchanged my Photon for the epic touch today. and I'm very happy with it the phone is amazing. But the screen is not as bright as my photon was. And when I compared it to my wife's epic, the epic is definitely brighter, is this normal or do I possibly have a defective screen.
If someone can compare these two phone side by side the epic touch & epic please let me know which one is brighter to you because I thought the epic touch... amoled plus screen was supposed to be better in every way
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Did you turn off the automatic setting?
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yes I did, and I set both phones to maximum brightness. I compare the settings screen with the black background and the white letters. And the letters just seem brighter on the epic

Try changing auto adjust screen power(adjust for image...) it seemed to help for me. stock though it is pretty dang dimm.

are you looking at it on a browser? cause browser has a auto dim on it as well. have to press menu key and then change it there.

I just compared max brightness to my gfs epic and honestly they looked about the same...i do think that the brightness is not as bright on the lower half of the scale..currently keep it about halfway
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I have both phones in front of me. The whites arent as white as the Epic but at night my Epic was always too bright. People would have brightness down and still use Screen Filter on that phone. I actually like it better...less headaches from staring at my phone so much...EDIT..actually max brightness is almost identical but auto seems a little less white
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thanks a lot ervman1 mine definitely is not as bright. I will be changing it tomorrow thanks a lot.

Final thoughts on the screen

I'm a graduate student, and as a result I do a lot of pdf reading on my phone. When I first got the phone, I thought the screen looked amazing....a day later I think amazing doesn't even describe it.
A lot of the reviewers constantly state they are disappointed by the resolution. As a matter of principle, it is disappointing that samsung did not up the resolution....but in reality maybe samsung just realized there was not need to..and more functionality comes from this resolution (in terms of apps) and the trade off was not worth it.
I decided to run a side by side test of my epc touch and my evo 3d. I loaded several stem cell papers in the form of pdfs (us stem cell researchers love put pictures in our pdfs). Here is the breakdown.
PDF zoomed completely out, so that it displays the whole page: Winner, Evo 3d. The text is not blurry, but is slight on the epic touch. No one is going to read at this level of zoom....its too small.
Mid level zoom: Winner is epic touch. Both have real clear text, but the contrast on the touch wins out. One nice thing about the touch is, no matter what your brightness, the text looks great...which is nice. One can turn down the brightness, still have well defined text, and avoid eye fatigue.
100% Zoom: Winner again is epic touch. The 3d may have a better resolution, but I am not seeing the gain here. The contrast on the epic really makes for some percise text. The super amloed + screen really signs.
Amont of text on the screen: Wiiner 3d
Quality and readability of text: Epic touch
Quality of pictures and graphs: detail is everything (if you are like me and looking at pictures of flourescent cells in culture, the smallest detial matter). Winner, by far and wide is the epic touch 4g. Let's just put it this way...the detail on the epic touch screen is preferable over ink and paper.
That is my take on the screen. Honestly I don't know where the reviewers get the idea that the text looks pixelated. It just looks bigger....but in no way is it more pixelated than the other phones on the market.
Oh well, that is everything. I am off now. Being a graduate student has its perks....such as having season tickets to the football games.
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Thanks for the insight. I was getting a little scared after reading the reviews, even then they weren't that bad.
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Excellent review BlueGoldAce, I feel the same way.

I am just bumping this one time.
I feel it is useful for someone debating whether to get this or not (the more people we have the better).
Also, I typed this whole review on my epic touch, using the hp touchpad keyboard. The touchpad keyboard pairs flawlessly with the touch!

Thank you, I feel the resolution gets some negative reviews but i think you really have to be picky to have a problem with it.
I have tv projector that uses 480x800 and eliminating the pixelation comes down to the type of screen you use and the focus. Its called screen door effect, basically if you do it right it can still look nice and it sounds like samsung did a great job.

not being a schmuck.. just thought it was funny.. the misspelling of "detial".. in the context..
I agree with you about the screen as well.. and if people harass me about the screen res.. I'll just say.. "lets do a side by side with yours" ...... the sad fact is I am the only person I know that would even have a clue on the screen res of a cell phone.

tri0xinn said:
not being a schmuck.. just thought it was funny.. the misspelling of "detial".. in the context..
I agree with you about the screen as well.. and if people harass me about the screen res.. I'll just say.. "lets do a side by side with yours" ...... the sad fact is I am the only person I know that would even have a clue on the screen res of a cell phone.
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Lol same here
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This just makes me wonder how ICS will look on this phone.

grayshade said:
This just makes me wonder how ICS will look on this phone.
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What do you mean?
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I mean the display resolution..

It will be on par with all currently available phones.
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No complaints here! I agree with your assessment.

Did your PDFs have a white background? how did the white compare on the two? My ET's screen has a blue tint when showing white compared to other devices
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bspec said:
Did your PDFs have a white background? how did the white compare on the two? My ET's screen has a blue tint when showing white compared to other devices
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if you change the color of the screen in the settings that should be fixed

drksilenc said:
if you change the color of the screen in the settings that should be fixed
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Yep. The whites are not as white, but screen adjustments can fix that. That is just the nature of this screen tec so far.
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Resolution: Text and Ice Cream Sandwich

So for everyone out there, like me, that has had the phone for a week now. How do you like the resolution? I jumped ship from the evo 3d, so the resolution is a little less than on that phone. I will admit, I miss it a bit, but the quality of the screen more than makes up for the lacking of resolution.
My question is two fold: For those of you (especially if you had qHD phone before) who have used the phone for a bit now, how do you like the resolution? Does the text seem grainy? Does the email, text messages, web browsing, etc seem to suffer at that resolution on a 4.5 inch display?
Personally, I am not sure. I would hesitate to say that it doesn't effect it, but it could be in my head.
Secondly, do you think the resolution will effect the look of the next version of android (ice cream sandwich) negatively?
Just looking to start a discussion on what may be the only negative about this phone.

I have to admit I miss qHD, but the amazing contrast makes up for it. Reading an ebook in night mode (white text on black bg) is absolutely amazing. And the pixel density isn't too bad...from a glance with casual use you don't really notice. I don't think I could tolerate the crayola-esque size without setting the dpi to 200 though. At that size it looks great, but makes some GUI elements ugly/broken. Fortunately I like stock android, so I've replaced the dialer, contacts, etc since I don't want them anyway.
Check out the macro photos I took comparing the panels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273814

Coming from the Evo 3D as well... Don't miss it at all at this point. The 1080p fills the void and the only time i see pixels or grain is when Im scrolling.
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Honestly I can't stop starring at the display on this bad boy! Just got mine about 3 days ago. Amazing how I can even see the display outside, in Phoenix at that!
I did notice playing angry birds when it's doing the training part, or shows you how to play that it looked a little pixelated but when I was playing the game that went away. As if perhaps that piece of the game's quality was originally like that. That's the only place I've seen any type of grainy/pixelated picture. Love this phone! Wish 4G was available in phoenix.

this phone is the greatest! although the resolution is not like the qhd from the 3d, 4.5 super amoled plus, and the battery life makes up for it, battery on this monster is amazing!!!

Miss it, I don't even remember it. While the resolution was higher on the 3D, the E4GT screen seems light years ahead of the washed out EVO 3D screen.
In this battle, WVGA Super Amoled Plus definetly beats a QHD SLCD. I bet no one was getting any wows when someone looked at their EVO 3D screen even though it was QHD. You will get some wows when people see the EGT4 screen though.

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Miss it, I don't even remember it. While the resolution was higher on the 3D, the E4GT screen seems light years ahead of the washed out EVO 3D screen.
In this battle, WVGA Super Amoled Plus definetly beats a QHD SLCD. I bet no one was getting any wows when someone looked at their EVO 3D screen even though it was QHD. You will get some wows when people see the EGT4 screen though.
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+1 couldn't be said any better
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I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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I'm using Go Launcher on my ET4G and it looks perfect.. Currently using it with the Honeycomb theme and the icons are much smaller and look great! The screen transition animations are buttery smooth compared to my original Galaxy S!

abrcrmdl23 said:
I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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The icons are big, but they don't look bad. Overall, the screen, yes even when it comes to reading, seems to be clear than my evo 3d...which I have setting right next too it.
No offense, big the photon, arguably, has the worst screen of all 3.

Zoidpilot said:
Coming from the Evo 3D as well... Don't miss it at all at this point. The 1080p fills the void and the only time i see pixels or grain is when Im scrolling.
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Good to see you here! I miss my colts back for the 3d, but I love this phone!
Also, LCD density changer can give you the feel of qHD if you are rooted. Set it to about 200 and it looks pretty good.

Alot of epic og owners knew the quality of it me I could care less even tho I did not come from a qhd display. The blacks and colors are far beyond any other screen out there and the size to me is perfect

OMG - HTC One X (snapdragon)

I played with the ATT version today.
1) The thing is gorgeous (they only had the white colored one). Its curves and black/white contrast on those are beautiful. It felt a bit taller than ET, but otherwise it felt slightly skinnier and thinner, although this could have been an illusion due to a different aspect ratio. The case had an awesome feeling texture.
The screen pops out just a little over the case, and it looks like a jewlery gem.
2) The display was amazing. Much brighter than ET and less pixelated. Definitely much better display than what's in Galaxy Nexus. I think the blacks were darker than in Evo3D display, but I'm not sure about that.
3) Camera was very good. It takes pix instantaneously. I got some very good shots just by pointing it and pressing the shutter button 3-4 times quickly. No messing around with trying to focus and stuff. The video recording was amazing on the screen, better than ET. I didn't get a chance to see it on a large monitor.
4) The UI was very snappy. I think the scrolling and swiping in desktop and menus was smoother than in ET. There's still a small delay between pressing on an app and it opening, but it's a smaller delay than in ET (felt like maybe quarter a sec to open a dialer). Once apps were loaded into ram, switching was instantaneous, much faster than ET.
Loading of webpages was easily twice faster than ET (on the same wifi), and scrolling was on par with ET or very slightly less smooth. It felt like your standard not optimized for gpu browser (like any browser on ET other than vanilla), but because the phone is much faster it was still very smooth. Much smoother than other browsers on ET. Pinch to zoom was about the same.
I ran a couple of benchmarks. Most of graphics benchmarks were running at 60fps. I noticed a couple of instances where the phone was much faster than ET. In quadrant, in test where a moon is rotating around a planet - that was running at a solid 60fps. Also, in nenamark2, the fps counter seemed to be stuck at 57fps throughout the benchmarks. On ET, it goes up and down to, sometimes down to 35fps (average 53).
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Overall, it felt like a next gen phone compared to ET. Kinda like switching from Evo3D to ET. Everything felt better than ET. The biggest difference was web browsing. It felt like night and day. It was actually fun to browse on the thing.

Cool story bro.

I'm going to go check it out tomorrow. I really want to go back to Android and I've been drooling over the One X since it was first announced. It looks sexy as hell and pretty much all the reviews have been extremely positive. I just hope they get that damn locked bootloader taken care of because if I do get it, I will want to get rid of Sense post haste.

Hows does it compare size wise? Haven't checked it out
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mexiking713 said:
Hows does it compare size wise? Haven't checked it out
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From gsmarena:
ET -
Dimensions 130 x 70 x 10 mm
Weight 130 g
One X -
Dimensions 134.8 x 69.9 x 8.9 mm
Weight 129 g
So I was right

If you get the AT&T version, have fun.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-blames-att-for-one-x-bootloader-lock-05226366/

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If you get the AT&T version, have fun.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-blames-att-for-one-x-bootloader-lock-05226366/
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I guess I didn't emphasize it enough.
This thread is definitely not about an ATT phone.
It's about Evo LTE. Evo LTE has the same hardware.
I thought it was obvious. I guess I was wrong.

Wow, another HTC thread. Are you guys being paid to infiltrate our forum and draw us over to the dark side? lol

I'm sick of hearing about any other phone whether its an iPhone HTC or even another Samsung. This is the epic touch forum.
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Agreed go away.
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Dan Hesse: "Wow, the HTC One X is an amazing phone, let's sell an ugly sprint htc one X evo 4g lte instead."
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Next time you play with a display phone, Bluetooth file transfer the pictures and videos you took on it to your phone. That way you can look at them better at home on better equipment PC/1080p screen. Don't make the videos too long at highest resolution or its going to take a very long time to transfer over slow ass Bluetooth. Take the same pictures and videos at the same resolutions on your phone too so you can compare them with the other phone. I did this with the gnote and 4s. Interesting comparison results you will find, yes? God, I'm talking like Yoda unintentionally again.

kingsway8605 said:
Dan Hesse: "Wow, the HTC One X is an amazing phone, let's sell an ugly sprint htc one X evo 4g lte instead."
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Poor guy needs to catch a break, he's already taken a major pay cut in an attempt to offset the god awful price they paid for the iPhone deal.

You guys do know this is the general sub forum....

This would probably go better in the One X section.
---Jay--- From the AOKP powered E4GT

HTC evo 4g lte vs GS2 e4gt

This is not a real review just an honest one from a real person cause i feel most of the time these phone makers pay these companies to make the phones just seem better during reviews like when iphones always get the better reviews on every much better android phone its only what i and 7 of my friends think that jumped boat from the gs2 e4gt feel about the new evo and i don't expect anyone but the gs2 e4gt owners to understand this:
Screen:
*CONS-I really like both of these phones but when i got my evo yesterday and compared it to my gs2 on youtube videos and pics i could not help but to notice that the gs2 still has much better colors and just looks better period i still like the evo screen until i see them side by side then the evo looks as if its color has been washed or faded.in my option the gs2 e4gt wins hands down but i still like the evo,i tried different brightnesses as well but still so so.
*PROS-The evo has a much sharper picture due to being HD and all but not always noticeable.
Camera:
*CONS-i have seen so many reviews and commercials on how this camera is so great not the case im not trying to be the one to spoil this but if you came from the gs2 e4gt you would notice it right away,i used my micro sd from my last phone and seen some of my older pics from the gs2 e4gt and they look amazing and then i took at least 20 pics with all types of high settings and lighting and these pics are grainy and just not as good when compared hands down.
*PROS-This camera i has pretty good quality for the speed it takes the photos in.
Overall Phone ui:
*CONS-None so far
*PROS-The ui is clean and fluid much more than the gs2 e4gt because it was real zippy but never fluid so the evo wins this.

Dude Evo LTE beats the GS2 in every department. Your also comparing last years flagship phone to a 2012 flagship phone. The only con I'd say would be the bootloader.

e4gt bettar

Every phones better in its own ways.. Also this depends on each person preferences..
Even flip phones can be better lol.. You can throw one of them damn things against a wall and get a chip or two.. You'd need an expensive case on ours to not shatter the screen or something.
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phatmanxxl said:
Dude Evo LTE beats the GS2 in every department. Your also comparing last years flagship phone to a 2012 flagship phone. The only con I'd say would be the bootloader.
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I think the SGS2 still looks better than the Evo. And saturated colors on the E4GT are much more enjoyable to me. From everything I have seen comparing the screen of the Evo to the int'l SGS2 and the SGS3, I can say I much prefer saturation over "accurate colors". The SGS3 screen also looks sharper than the Evo's. Not to mention, holding the E4GT at a normal distance still leaves me unable to see pixels. Until I hold it closer, like 6 inches away, I can't see them.
You really can't say the Evo beats the SGS2 in every department. Your grammar doesn't lend any credibility to your statement either.
And for last year's flagship, the E4GT is still an amazing phone. The only ones that "beat" it are the One X and the SGS3, and they have yet to be widespread. I personally can't wait for the SGS3. The screen looks amazing, and that Exynos shreds everything in its path. Hopefully Sprint or AT&T come out with a sexier version.

I think you should get a replacement for your new EVO, your screen is defective. I have a E4GT and an iPhone 4s, buddy just got a HTC One X...You can't even put them in the same ball park. Seriously it looks like those paint on displays they put on phones at radio shack. Everything is so bright, crisp and clear it almost looks like the icons are above the glass. Best display I have ever seen on a phone hands down and pretty much every Android or technology review site agree (pocketnow Engadget slashvear theverge ect ect). S4 is vastly superior soc, VASTLY. Im sorry Im not trying to be a jerk but you might be a fanboy if...you get the rest.
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If this is only about specs, then the new Evo definitely has our E4GT beat. Then again, what do you expect? Our Phone is significantly older than the new Evo. If the Evo wasn't beating old tech from last year, that'd be cause for serious concern.
My Wife Got her Evo in yesterday. I like it. I specifically like the screen size and that it is specifically a HD Screen.
Personally though, I would rather Touchwiz over Sense any day. For how lightweight the new sense is, I noticed a small amount of lag on occasion. It wasn't a significant issue, but enough to notice and think "I guess it is not as fast as they make it sound."
My biggest gripe though has to be that the USB/Charging port is on the wrong side if you are to using the kick stand! What were they thinking?
Besides that I really like how it feels in the hand and it seems significantly easier for me to type with. Although if it were dropped I definitely foresee dinging the nice metal that lines the perimeter.
That's just my initial impressions from playing with it for about an hour.

The kickstand can support the phone on either side in portrait mode. Flip it over.

I like this new evo but after coming from the gs2 i feel like my new evos screen has no soul and colors look so blan,someone would have to pay me to say this screen is better than the gs2 screen.

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I like this new evo but after coming from the gs2 i feel like my new evos screen has no soul and colors look so blan,someone would have to pay me to say this screen is better than the gs2 screen.
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Lol no one needs to b/c everyone already says and agrees it is
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Agreed evo lte screen sucks compared to e4gt.
Source: i haz one
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T.C.P said:
Agreed evo lte screen sucks compared to e4gt.
Source: i haz one
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Rofl hilarious
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My main prob W/the new evo iiiiis. It's an HTC.. NUFF SAID. I'M OUT.

phatmanxxl said:
Dude Evo LTE beats the GS2 in every department. Your also comparing last years flagship phone to a 2012 flagship phone. The only con I'd say would be the bootloader.
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Not the graphics
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I won't be getting lte phone until I get lte in my area
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I couldn't find the evo LTE, but I saw the lg nitro HD with the IPS screen yesterday. The screen is nice. The pre loaded HD video content was unreal. Looked so good it looked fake, too good to be true. You can see the detail on the smallest of objects. But outside of that, it really lacks contrast and blacks. Overall makes the screen have no advantage over samoled.
How often are you going to watch highly optimized ultra HD content?
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yokken said:
I think the SGS2 still looks better than the Evo. And saturated colors on the E4GT are much more enjoyable to me. From everything I have seen comparing the screen of the Evo to the int'l SGS2 and the SGS3, I can say I much prefer saturation over "accurate colors". The SGS3 screen also looks sharper than the Evo's. Not to mention, holding the E4GT at a normal distance still leaves me unable to see pixels. Until I hold it closer, like 6 inches away, I can't see them.
You really can't say the Evo beats the SGS2 in every department. Your grammar doesn't lend any credibility to your statement either.
And for last year's flagship, the E4GT is still an amazing phone. The only ones that "beat" it are the One X and the SGS3, and they have yet to be widespread. I personally can't wait for the SGS3. The screen looks amazing, and that Exynos shreds everything in its path. Hopefully Sprint or AT&T come out with a sexier version.
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OK thanks I'll work on my grammar to add more credibility to my point. I didn't think we still had Grammar Nazis on XDA. The first thing I noticed when I first saw the one X was how much sharper the screen looks, my GN beats the ET4g screen hands down also. These phones made me realize how low resolution the Epic Touch screen really is. Also, you CAN still see the difference with the phones two feet from your face, its that obvious. I'm not talking about looking for pixels with a magnifying glass.
Oh and by the way, since I had my replacement phone for the past three months it already has discoloration where the status bar is. I took special care because the last phone had screen burn in as well. That doesn't sound like a superior screen to me. I was quite disappointed in that.
I do agree the S3 will kill the Evo LTE once its released.
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Agreed evo lte screen sucks compared to e4gt.
Source: i haz one
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My friend has a One X, and yes the One X screen kills the ET4G. You cant hold both phones side by side and seriously tell me the Evo One will not have a better screen over the Epic Touch.
I haven't seen any lag either, trust me I'm one to notice lag and imperfections. I ditched the 3D because of the crooked screen and photon because of the lag. Y'all need to get your head out of your asses.

I took a Gnex and compared my epic to it, not much screen difference I liked my screen better even with brightness up on the nexus. However the One X just murdered my screen hands down, made me wanna switch to AT&T
Truthfully I even found at times my photon killed my epic's screen, I miss pentile and my photon. I couldn't see the pixels unless I facepalmed my phone lol
That being said everyone sees colours differently so its all in the eye of the beholder.

If you look at the galaxy s vs the s2,that was a huge generational leap. Going from the s2 to the evo or s3 will be much more incremental in my opinion.
After seeing what 2012 will hold for new high end phones I bought this epic touch off contract. I came from an og epic and this thing has a significantly better screen, is literally half as thick, WAY faster ui, much improved camera, etc. I just don't see this year's phones as killing the epic touch.
This way, when the next nexus or whatever killer phone comes out I'll be off contract and ready to go.
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phatmanxxl said:
OK thanks I'll work on my grammar to add more credibility to my point. I didn't think we still had Grammar Nazis on XDA. The first thing I noticed when I first saw the one X was how much sharper the screen looks, my GN beats the ET4g screen hands down also. These phones made me realize how low resolution the Epic Touch screen really is. Also, you CAN still see the difference with the phones two feet from your face, its that obvious. I'm not talking about looking for pixels with a magnifying glass.
Oh and by the way, since I had my replacement phone for the past three months it already has discoloration where the status bar is. I took special care because the last phone had screen burn in as well. That doesn't sound like a superior screen to me. I was quite disappointed in that.
I do agree the S3 will kill the Evo LTE once its released.
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My friend has a One X, and yes the One X screen kills the ET4G. You cant hold both phones side by side and seriously tell me the Evo One will not have a better screen over the Epic Touch.
I haven't seen any lag either, trust me I'm one to notice lag and imperfections. I ditched the 3D because of the crooked screen and photon because of the lag. Y'all need to get your head out of your asses.
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Indeed, not sure what these peeps are smoking lolz