Hi All…
Really hope someone can advise me.
I’ve rooted and S-Off my friend’s HTC Desire. Now I need help choosing a ROM that is Fast, Smooth, Stable and has good battery life for everyday use. Also after I give the phone back, it won’t be updated anytime soon (I’m thinking 6months to a year) so no beta.
Thanks
Personally I'd say go for an aosp rom. GB Sense rom's are great but most have some sort of issue with lags fc's etc and are constantly being updated.
Couple of the best would be...
GingerVillain. Richard trip just updated to version 3.1 which seems to be running well for most people.
Redux2. This is labeled as "test" status, but honestly, I was running this for a month and found no issues with it at all. Was the fastest and smoothest rom (when teamed with Go Launcher Ex) that I've had on my phone. (Still got my nandroid and tempted to go back).
Search the dev section and read a couple of the threads. But honestly I'd say stick with an aosp rom. There's some great one's about.
Use the search. Asking for the best rom is a completely senseless question.
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MatDrOiD said:
Use the search. Asking for the best rom is a completely senseless question.
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It's not a senseless question at all! What he's asking for is an OPINION.
If someone asked you what's the best car in the world, or what's the best football team, would you say "don't be stupid, that's a senseless question"? No, because you would have an OPINION about it and be able to give an answer according to what you thought.
Or are you saying you have no opinion, or free thought of your own?
Choosing a rom depends so much on personal preferences that it's senseless (=not helpful) to tell the OP what's the best rom my opinion is. If you read any thread with this topic you would understand it's senseless to ask this question.
Think about it: E.g. I tell you Mercedes builds the best cars in the world. You test it, don't like it, test BMW and like it. Result: My opinion did not help you at all.
And to form an opinion he just have to use the search.
Conclusion: His question was not stupid, but senseless.
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MatDrOiD said:
Choosing a rom depends so much on personal preferences that it's senseless (=not helpful) to tell the OP what's the best rom my opinion is. If you read any thread with this topic you would understand it's senseless to ask this question.
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I have read threads on this topic, and yes in a lot of cases it is stupid because they just ask "what is the best rom". However in this case if you read the op you'll see that what he is asking for is an opinion from people who have flashed Desire rom's for a "fast, smooth, stable" rom with "good battery life". Like I said before, he is asking for an opinion.
"Hey MatDrOiD, that movie you went to see the other night, was it any good because I'm thinking of going to see it?"
"Sorry, I can't answer that because it would require me giving you my opinion. And any opinion about the movie is dependant so much on personal preferences that it would be senseless and not helpful of me to tell you anything about it, even though I saw it and might/might not have enjoyed it. Therefore I cannot tell you whether I think it was good or not, and I refuse to speak about it any more."
Edit:
"MatDrOiD, that girl over there is pretty hot yes?"
"Why are you asking such a nonsensical question? My opinion has no bearing to you on whether she looks nice or not. I could say yes, but someone else could say no. So in that sense I will just stay quiet and not give any opinion about it one way or the other."
Edit2:
"So Mr Hawking, what is your opinion about subatomic matter anti-matter particle deceleration in a flux void?"
"What a senseless question. Spend the next thirty years researching the subject and then make up your own opinion. Even though I am the most knowledgeable man on the planet on this subject, I refuse to give you my opinion."
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Personally I'd say go for an aosp rom. GB Sense rom's are great but most have some sort of issue with lags fc's etc and are constantly being updated.
Couple of the best would be...
GingerVillain. Richard trip just updated to version 3.1 which seems to be running well for most people.
Redux2. This is labeled as "test" status, but honestly, I was running this for a month and found no issues with it at all. Was the fastest and smoothest rom (when teamed with Go Launcher Ex) that I've had on my phone. (Still got my nandroid and tempted to go back).
Search the dev section and read a couple of the threads. But honestly I'd say stick with an aosp rom. There's some great one's about.
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+1 on this. Aosp rom would be my choice as well.
Ignore me, I'm a n00b posting via xda app.
@zedmarcus:
Your examples have nothing to do with the OP's question. In all your three of your examples the questioner asks for an opinion about a specific topic (movie, girl, subatomic matter).
In this topic the OP asks in general. If he asked something like "what do you guys think of oxygen or AOSP roms in general, then your example would be appropriate.
Furthermore, the thread title says "best rom".
Nevertheless, we should end this: Because of personal preferences I recommend lightweight AOSP roms like dGB, Oxygen or Redux.
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Girls, girls, quit bickering. There is no place on XDA for thin skins.
IMHO, Oxygen and Redux are two of the fastest and stablest ROMs if you dislike the HTC bells and whistles. I used to be a Leedroid and StarBurst mainstay, but since switching over to Oxygen, I haven't had one single incidence of bootloop, even after powering on after my battery fell out after I accidentally dropped my Desire onto a marble floor.
@MatDrOiD
I don't think you really understand what you're saying...
If you had even bothered reading the first post instead of just the title you would have seen that he is asking for a specific type of rom, "I need help choosing a ROM that is Fast, Smooth, Stable and has good battery life for everyday use."
And the specific topic in question here is a Desire ROM. Your arguement is SENSELESS.
But anyway...
+1 for an aosp rom
consider this thread finished
Aosp all the way
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Thank you so much “zedmarcus” for your advice and thanks “rootSU“ too.
@MatDrOiD
All I’m after is a Fast, Smooth and Stable ROM with good battery life.
Now I have two options,
1. I can download and try all ROMs available for HTC Desire for one week each (which will take months).
2. I can ask people what they would recommend, and based on recommendations I can decide on one ROM (or if it’s two or three, I can easily try them and that would only take few weeks).
In the interest of saving time, I have chosen option 2 and I still think I have done the right thing.
Remember this is a form for people around the world to help each other, share ideas and experience.
No problem. Hope you find one that suits your needs
Consider trying AOSP mate, most if not all of those criteria you're looking are present. Currently using Gingervillain 3.1, for me its fast.
But speaking of battery life, i want to know the opinion of others....im a moderate user, brightness to low, only used wifi as of the moment for surfing the net, turns it on only if needed but one time i fell asleep leaving wifi on for more or less 7hours.after 2days i still have 20%..is the batt good to your opinion????
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Consider trying AOSP mate, most if not all of those criteria you're looking are present. Currently using Gingervillain 3.1, for me its fast.
But speaking of battery life, i want to know the opinion of others....im a moderate user, brightness to low, only used wifi as of the moment for surfing the net, turns it on only if needed but one time i fell asleep leaving wifi on for more or less 7hours.after 2days i still have 20%..is the batt good to your opinion????
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Its impossible to judge really, as usage differes and I can't tell anything about your usage without hard facts.
I can say from my experience, GV battery life is ok, but not as good as Oxygen, redux or dGB for my individual usage.
i just got my desire and i want a rom that everything works fine and i like the new sense 3.5. which rom do you recomend?
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Its impossible to judge really, as usage differes and I can't tell anything about your usage without hard facts.
I can say from my experience, GV battery life is ok, but not as good as Oxygen, redux or dGB for my individual usage.
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I see.....yeah cant really provide hard facts for now but surely will once i have, for the benefit of others...and i will definitely try those roms uve mentioned.OP, hope this help you narrow down the choices to consider.
@rootSU
forgot to say thanks!)
Well in my opinion too the best solution is an AOSP rom like oxygen or GingerVillain but i use insertcoin 1.1.0 for a long time and never had any trouble with bootloops or FCs or anything else and i heve and the great sense 2.1-3. and the battery life is 1,5 days with wifi GSM net some games and music!!! It's up to U
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I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?
i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide
^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...
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i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?
In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff
I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all
Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?
The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
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He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.
I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you
So long as you've got your backup, just go ahead and try some of the roms that are out there. If you don't like a particular rom, flash another.
Personally I like the Sense based roms, I have tried others but I keep going back to Sense. I'm currently using InsertCoin which based on a Desire HD rom, small fonts compared to the Desire, but other features including Skins (themes), HTCSense.com phone finder (which doesn't always work).
Are you wanting to try a non Sense based rom? There are plenty out there to play with, MIUI, Cyanogen, Gingerbread roms too.
In this forum, there is a thread which compares all the available ROM's (I'll post the link once I find it)
As @UKseagull mentioned, try different ROM's , You might find a suitable one for you !
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!
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I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you
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I'm using InsertCoin at the moment which is a ported HD ROM and seems really good. If you want to stick with non HD then LeeDroid is great.
Links to both in my signature.
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Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!
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He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.
It's a shame that XDA doesn't have a poll similar to the ZTE - which rom poll over at Modaco, a quick look and you can see which are the most popular roms in use at that point in time. http://android.modaco.com/content/z...omisation/329997/poll-what-rom-are-you-using/
The OP asked a question because they probably value advice from the more experienced rom flashers here , those that are willing to give advice will do so. Yes, rom choice is an individual preference but there's really no need for people to reply with derogatory comments, just ignore the thread and leave it to the others that are willing to help.
GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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decat said:
He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.
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Read? Did you not READ where i said that the specs mean NOTHING cause i dont exactly understand what im "Getting" in a rom? Im pretty computer literate, and have only had my desire (or android in general), for maybe 3 weeks. This is all new to me. Ive sim unlocked and rooted thus far without confusion or asking for help.
Its just the specs. Theres so much **** in them that i dont understand that its hard to pick one. Intimidating sorta.
Thanks to all that helped. I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.
I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
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I've been using LeeDroid for several months now with no issues at all. If you check his minisite out, he lists all the apps you can safely remove from the zip prior to flashing without damaging it. That way you are only installing the bare minimum required to run a Sense ROM and you then just add the bits you want.
Personally I only run a Sense ROM because I like the HTC dialer, clock and phonebook over the vanilla Android ones. I use launcher pro which just seems to be snappier than Sense with more customising options.
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I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
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I have the same experience.
Started with Lee (runs flawlessly) and then wanted ginger rom so switched to Redux - very satisfied
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I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.
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Mine is almost two months old and I flashed a rom for the first time last week.
Leedroid runs great but as said earlier it all depends on personal preferences, I also installed Launcher Pro cause i like it more compared to the stock dock etc.
Good luck!
GingerVillian is my recommend
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What is The Best and Stable ROM for HTC One X?
Currently i am using Revolution HD...
Post your Opinions and suggestions.
Godbless
In my opinion there is not much difference right now. Most roms if not all are stable with no problems.
I have tried LeeDrOiD, CoreDroid, Villain rom and InsertCoin until now and all of them seem about the same to me in terms of speed and stability
We need custom kernel
ARHD is probably one of the best and most popular.
IMO, they're all around the same and pretty similar besides the fact that some are senseless.
I think we'll really see bigger differences when kernel sources come out and kernel devs start working their magic. Then the combination of kernel and ROM will be big and some may be much more battery efficient than others.
I'm intrigued at the new ROM touch x-treme which is coming out soon I believe, he's uploading.......and hes aiming at battery life. IMO, most important thing since Tegra 3 with all it's cores should already be able to handle UI and everything with ease and the focus on battery life is a biggie to me.
Anything above 5 hours screen usage time would be great, as the phone should barely drain with the companion core during standby.
threads like these usually get closed. you're supposed to read the features/changelogs and look at the pics for the theme. i want ICS blue, so i'm trying the 2 i see with that first.
yah iknow, i want the opinion and testimonies of others.
uhm lets say it like this "air is everywhere but we still need a fan to feel it better".
Read and Analyze first before saying anything.
for the 2 first comment. Thanks a lot! i've learn something about Kernels
Godbless
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threads like these usually get closed. you're supposed to read the features/changelogs and look at the pics for the theme. i want ICS blue, so i'm trying the 2 i see with that first.
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yah iknow, i want the opinion and testimonies of others.
uhm lets say it like this "air is everywhere but we still need a fan to feel it better".
Read and Analyze first before saying anything.
for the 2 first comment. Thanks a lot! i've learn something about Kernels
Godbless
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threads like these usually get closed. you're supposed to read the features/changelogs and look at the pics for the theme. i want ICS blue, so i'm trying the 2 i see with that first.
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I think it's great to have a thread like this. Very informative.
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Leedroid is awesome Lee always makes stable roms and updates are usually really quick
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pewpewbangbang said:
ARHD is probably one of the best and most popular.
IMO, they're all around the same and pretty similar besides the fact that some are senseless.
I think we'll really see bigger differences when kernel sources come out and kernel devs start working their magic. Then the combination of kernel and ROM will be big and some may be much more battery efficient than others.
I'm intrigued at the new ROM touch x-treme which is coming out soon I believe, he's uploading.......and hes aiming at battery life. IMO, most important thing since Tegra 3 with all it's cores should already be able to handle UI and everything with ease and the focus on battery life is a biggie to me.
Anything above 5 hours screen usage time would be great, as the phone should barely drain with the companion core during standby.
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I am aware that this thread can/may be removed but I think it's a very useful thread...
Cause although I highly appreciate each and every developer, as users, we shall have the chance to openly discuss our experiences ask for other users opinions. Cause reading only changelogs, and looking at the themes don't mean anything especially for someone like me, who is a newbie in Android... =)
And where else can we compare the ROMs, if not here?! Under their own threads? No i think that will be inappropriate...
Now, to the point...
I have my One X for 1 week and already tried first LeeDrOiD (de-sensed) and currently Android Revolution HD (w/sense)... But I could not decide on which one to use...
Both of them still drains lots of battery... I was sick of my iPhone4 because after 2 years of usage It needed to recharge by afternoon if I used it intensely during the day, but now I absolutley need to re-charge every 6 hours if I use it
A solution should be found to this, so I got very interested in your reply cause I was not aware of this ROM... my bad, was looking at only Leedroid & ARHD because of their popularity..
As of now, I can see that the rom is out there, although at the beginning of the topic it says uploading...
Did you have the chance to give it a try? I will appreciate if you can share your experience cause I got tired of changing my ROM and make all necessary installations & logins again and again...
(BTW, which you guys prefer... Sense or de-Sense?)
Balong020 said:
yah iknow, i want the opinion and testimonies of others.
uhm lets say it like this "air is everywhere but we still need a fan to feel it better".
Read and Analyze first before saying anything.
for the 2 first comment. Thanks a lot! i've learn something about Kernels
Godbless
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my mistake. i have come from another phone section on here and the rules and mods there are completely different, i guess. post away. i will not be happy until we have 1 post for every xda member in each section.
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my mistake. i have come from another phone section on here and the rules and mods there are completely different, i guess. post away. i will not be happy until we have 1 post for every xda member in each section.
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It's ok sir.. in someway my mistake as well...Godbless and more power to XDA!
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I use InsertCoin, which is smooth, fast and rock solid. It used to be a great ROM on the original Desire, which posed some problems to really test developers. InsertCoin met the test.
However, given the superb hardware on the One X, I would expect most of the present ROMs to be much the same... excellent.
Battery life is the holy grail, but as the screen is the main drain I can't imagine what can be done other than tinker with the brightness.
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I think this the best rom for long battery
Decided not to upgrade officially to any newer version… so that I could easily root onto a custom ROM.
That was a year ago now—
Exploits available for my ROM (from running 'X-Ray'):
ZergRush
Gingerbreak
Backup program planning to use (once ROOTed):
- Titanium backup? [feel free to recommend alternates]
Planning to use one of these ROMs (feel free to suggest others):
[ROM][3-2-13]UNOFFICIAL MIUI V4.1 3.2.1 for HTC Desire Z [JB4.1]
[ROM][Feb/01/2013] AOSP - Jelly Bean 4.2.1 - Build 09
Can you recommend a good—i.e.: fast and stable—mod ROM for my Desire Z?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Alec Taylor
BTW: How do you think the speed compares between a mod Jelly Bean mod and stock Froyo?
PS: I still want to be able to use Google Apps, such as GMail, Market &etc.
huh, first of all best roms and recommend me a rom questions arent really to be asked, your best to search a bit and then try a few out to see whats best.
while your at it search out the xda wiki to see how to root your phone, the ways you mentions probably wont work and if they do there are far better ways now
comparing across versions of andorid is hard to do, especially 2.2 to 4.1, things start becoming to relative to answer. but yes you can always use google apps in android roms, gmail and market (playstore) have been around since android 1.0 and i doubt they will get dumped
Can you recommend better ways of ROOTing the phone?
Also, what difference in battery-life should I expect; moving from stock Froyo to modded Jelly Bean?
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huh, first of all best roms and recommend me a rom questions arent really to be asked, your best to search a bit and then try a few out to see whats best.
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Why do people answer with this stupid answer?
He asking people to post their (good and fast) ROMs so he can see what most people use and works for them.
By your logic, the best ones are the ones whos thread is the smallest because it has no bugs. Or is it the biggest because there is always active development? Who knows?
Just recommend him a ROM.
Anyways, personally I was using Andromadus Mimicry v1.5.0 (ICS) Pretty nice update from latest stable CM. CM is still a BIT more stable but AM and its ICS are great.
Just got my phone back from repair and Ill problably try out a 4.2 ROM as Ive been DYING to run it. If not Ill problalby go back to AM.
Or you could go the demkantor way and flash and format and flash and format and flash and format and flash and.....well you get the point and be bored all day configuring different ROMs over and over again....
Also battery life tends to be better than ANY stock ROM
seriously.... other than being against xda rules SEE HERE it is a pointless question that clutters thread all over xda.
i also like the conclusion youve made about what my logic is, and if you really think about it i never even came close to implying that rather the opposite as i suggestion to do some homework first.... a little reading goes along way.
also i did attempt to answer the questions as best as i could without holding his hand through the process of rooting and choosing a rom, being pointed in a direction to do some research is far better than saying yeah root the lazy way and install mimicry, dont learn how to use your phone and when things dont seem right start another thread on a simple subject that has been covered dozens of times in the past month, dont search, the search button is for losers.
and again why answer with what rom to use? maybe this user is in need of the best camera possible or the absolute most cutting age rom, neither is mimicry, although its a great rom it might be terrible for this guy.
asking the best rom can be akin to asking whats the best music, and then what artist, then what cd to get, then what track to listen to. and no thats not going too far as that is exactly what happens on xda every day.... "
how should i root, now what rom to flash, now what mods should i use, is this the kernel for me, any good apps i should get, how about a radio i hear i should change that should i?"
so yeah sorry for rambling on here and wasting more electronic ink but please try not to take me out of context, i try to be a very helpful person here and give back as much as ive been given from xda but its the simple things that people dont learn or at least refuse to that bugs me
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seriously.... other than being against xda rules SEE HERE it is a pointless question that clutters thread all over xda.
i also like the conclusion youve made about what my logic is, and if you really think about it i never even came close to implying that rather the opposite as i suggestion to do some homework first.... a little reading goes along way.
also i did attempt to answer the questions as best as i could without holding his hand through the process of rooting and choosing a rom, being pointed in a direction to do some research is far better than saying yeah root the lazy way and install mimicry, dont learn how to use your phone and when things dont seem right start another thread on a simple subject that has been covered dozens of times in the past month, dont search, the search button is for losers.
and again why answer with what rom to use? maybe this user is in need of the best camera possible or the absolute most cutting age rom, neither is mimicry, although its a great rom it might be terrible for this guy.
asking the best rom can be akin to asking whats the best music, and then what artist, then what cd to get, then what track to listen to. and no thats not going too far as that is exactly what happens on xda every day.... "
how should i root, now what rom to flash, now what mods should i use, is this the kernel for me, any good apps i should get, how about a radio i hear i should change that should i?"
so yeah sorry for rambling on here and wasting more electronic ink but please try not to take me out of context, i try to be a very helpful person here and give back as much as ive been given from xda but its the simple things that people dont learn or at least refuse to that bugs me
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Not actually against XDA rules, its just viewed fouled on this section. And BTW, I made a thread like that (and Im going to as soon as I charge my Desire Z) and I did not get any warning for it, so it is hardly enforced.
You actually answered your own question with "why answer what ROM to use?" If the OP wanted a iPhone like expirence, people would problably recommend him MIUI ROM. If the OP wanted a better ROM based on what his HTC stock one is, people would recommend him a Sense ROM.
Now, what I DO NOT approve of is a thread like:
Title: What ROM do I get?
Message:
Hello
What ROM do I put on my phone?
Thanks
No. That, I do NOT agree with as it shows the user has had no thought and/or hasnt even tried.
And of course asking the best music is vague. But asking the best artist BECAUSE I LISTEN TO THIS TYPE OF MUSIC is NOT vague. So very bad example.
Also, remember that XDA has over the years gone from very talented and technical developers to hobbiests to complete n00bs that want to do this and get it over with. Not that that is a good thing....
In every forum there is post from the moderators saying not and it because of your very last line, they're trying not to allow this form to turn into a wasteland of the same pointless thread over and over, trying to get people to search a bit and get answers on their own. If you feel that's not a good thing then why promote it?
And yes the genre is android and the artist is the vision, so we already don't need to answer that. And then it comes down to the album and the track to listen to... but why keep explaining my metaphor, you obviously disagree so whatever.
either way it is a waste and the less crap that's all over these threads the easier it is for the new people to sift through making the question less necessary to even ask.
But go ahead and keep asking and answering them for obviously its better to turn this forum into clutter, I am the one in the wrong here and should keep my mouth shut
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Given measurable metrics which mod ROM and ROOTing method would you recommend?
demkantor said:
asking the best rom can be akin to asking whats the best music, and then what artist, then what cd to get, then what track to listen to. and no thats not going too far as that is exactly what happens on xda every day....
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Non sequitur.
You are comparing subjective things such as music with objective things such as metrics.
I asked a very specific question—with a single follow-up—asking a very well defined question.
To reiterate:
Given measurable metrics—battery_life>=current_ROM, stability>=current_ROM, upgrade_version==Jelly Bean, phone_model=Desire Z, current_ROM==2.2.1—which mod ROM and ROOTing method would you recommend?
Thanks for all suggestions
....best rom is subjective....very subjective....done squabaling on that
Best rooting method is any using gfree to exploit which involves downgrading first, search out the xda wiki or the cyanogen wiki or strawmetals pdf guide, all have been covered many times in this thread and if your search button isn't working use google. Pick a guide, read, understand, follow every step, if you get stuck, read some more, if still confused ask
You will have vastly different experiences across different android platforms, niether you or I will know what os to run for you until you try a bunch, battery life is determined more by how you use your phone and how good your battery is rather than what rom you have. Search and you will easily find many thread giving tips on improvements
Happy flashing
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So you want Jelly Bean, and for crying out loud it's not like there's a billion different JB ROMs to choose from... If this was the nexus 4 forum, maybe this question would be slightly less pointless.
So atm in terms of JB we've got 4.1 and 4.2 . Step 1 - do you have to have the latest? If yes, easy peasy, go for Andromadus CM10.1 for features or Andromadus AOSP 4.2 or Fyodor's 4.2 for speed, then pick Fyodor's if you needs the latest kernel stuff.
You don't mind not having the latest? Go for 4.1, get Jelly Belly for stability, MIUI for... MIUI stuff, if you want that, Andromadus CM10 for features or Andromadus AOSP 4.1 for speed. Don't go for Fyodor's, he stopped 4.1 at build 4 or 5. Also don't go for my PA port, atm it's ****.
For rooting... What demkantor said.
Wow, that logic was hard. I'm gonna go get a cuppa whilst my brain recharges.
Hi,
I love my M8 but i love stock Android too. Some time ago i tested a few stock roms but they all had battery drain and things like that.
Is there currently a GOOD stock rom? Without sense etc?
Regards,
Dennis
dennusb said:
Hi,
I love my M8 but i love stock Android too. Some time ago i tested a few stock roms but they all had battery drain and things like that.
Is there currently a GOOD stock rom? Without sense etc?
Regards,
Dennis
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Stock(Sense) without Sense?
You mean "vanilla" Android like on the Google Play Editions? Then you should look for a GPE ROM, like Skydragon some screenshots .
If not then I can't help, I only flashed one ROM and that was Viper. I just had to reply to figure out what you mean "Stock" (On HTC that includes Sense) yet it should not have Sense :cyclops:
BerndM14 said:
Stock(Sense) without Sense?
You mean "vanilla" Android like on the Google Play Editions? Then you should look for a GPE ROM, like Skydragon some screenshots .
If not then I can't help, I only flashed one ROM and that was Viper. I just had to reply to figure out what you mean "Stock" (On HTC that includes Sense) yet it should not have Sense :cyclops:
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Yeah i mean vanilla... i'm sorry
Yes, some folks like to call AOSP "stock". Altough "stock" is rather ambiguous as this phone (at least the huge majority of its variants) comes "stock" from the factory with Sense.
There is not such thing as "best" ROM, and such questions (and anything similar like "favorite", "best performance", "recommended" etc.) are discouraged here. What is "best" depends a lot on your own personal preferences, and things like battery drain are going to vary drastically depending on how you use your phone. So any such recommendations would like have little actual value.
And any such threads would also be an insult to the devs that take their own free time to create these ROMs. If the devs posted them here, they must have considered them worthy of flashing; and its an insult to imply otherwise (as recommending one over another inadvertently does).
Just browse and look through the ROMs, pick one or a couple, and flash away and try them for yourself.
Moderator Information,
Under new forum rules, we now allow best rom threads. But we will be keeping an eye on these threads.
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Ghost
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redpoint73 said:
Yes, some folks like to call AOSP "stock". Altough "stock" is rather ambiguous as this phone (at least the huge majority of its variants) comes "stock" from the factory with Sense.
There is not such thing as "best" ROM, and such questions (and anything similar like "favorite", "best performance", "recommended" etc.) are discouraged here. What is "best" depends a lot on your own personal preferences, and things like battery drain are going to vary drastically depending on how you use your phone. So any such recommendations would like have little actual value.
And any such threads would also be an insult to the devs that take their own free time to create these ROMs. If the devs posted them here, they must have considered them worthy of flashing; and its an insult to imply otherwise (as recommending one over another inadvertently does).
Just browse and look through the ROMs, pick one or a couple, and flash away and try them for yourself.
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I think it's awesome that we can do some comparisons between ROMs now. Competition never hurt anyone, except maybe Apple but that's another story.
How does it go again? our critics are our friends, they show us our faults...
All the devs on here do an awesome job with whatever it is that they're doing, no reason any of them can't learn from the mistakes/successes of other devs and become even more great! But that's something that I always lived by anyways. I criticize a lot but that's fine, I'm my own biggest critic too, work, home doesn't matter. :good:
For me it's CleanRom for sure. Scott is very helpful and issues and requests are addressed very quickly. I have run it for years of numerous devices. Always fast, excellent battery, and no feature loss.
Might also have a look into Elix-R ROM, apparently it was quite good on Nexus 5 and the developer brought it to M8 recently, so also something to look into...
[ROM] Elix-R | V1.2.1 TETRA | 10/02| Fast | Elegant | Simple |
There's so many choices out there. I personally can't state which is better than which, I never ran any of them so =oP
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In that case, sinless is best. In my opinion lol.
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