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Hi All…
Really hope someone can advise me.
I’ve rooted and S-Off my friend’s HTC Desire. Now I need help choosing a ROM that is Fast, Smooth, Stable and has good battery life for everyday use. Also after I give the phone back, it won’t be updated anytime soon (I’m thinking 6months to a year) so no beta.
Thanks

Personally I'd say go for an aosp rom. GB Sense rom's are great but most have some sort of issue with lags fc's etc and are constantly being updated.
Couple of the best would be...
GingerVillain. Richard trip just updated to version 3.1 which seems to be running well for most people.
Redux2. This is labeled as "test" status, but honestly, I was running this for a month and found no issues with it at all. Was the fastest and smoothest rom (when teamed with Go Launcher Ex) that I've had on my phone. (Still got my nandroid and tempted to go back).
Search the dev section and read a couple of the threads. But honestly I'd say stick with an aosp rom. There's some great one's about.

Use the search. Asking for the best rom is a completely senseless question.
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MatDrOiD said:
Use the search. Asking for the best rom is a completely senseless question.
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It's not a senseless question at all! What he's asking for is an OPINION.
If someone asked you what's the best car in the world, or what's the best football team, would you say "don't be stupid, that's a senseless question"? No, because you would have an OPINION about it and be able to give an answer according to what you thought.
Or are you saying you have no opinion, or free thought of your own?

Choosing a rom depends so much on personal preferences that it's senseless (=not helpful) to tell the OP what's the best rom my opinion is. If you read any thread with this topic you would understand it's senseless to ask this question.
Think about it: E.g. I tell you Mercedes builds the best cars in the world. You test it, don't like it, test BMW and like it. Result: My opinion did not help you at all.
And to form an opinion he just have to use the search.
Conclusion: His question was not stupid, but senseless.
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MatDrOiD said:
Choosing a rom depends so much on personal preferences that it's senseless (=not helpful) to tell the OP what's the best rom my opinion is. If you read any thread with this topic you would understand it's senseless to ask this question.
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I have read threads on this topic, and yes in a lot of cases it is stupid because they just ask "what is the best rom". However in this case if you read the op you'll see that what he is asking for is an opinion from people who have flashed Desire rom's for a "fast, smooth, stable" rom with "good battery life". Like I said before, he is asking for an opinion.
"Hey MatDrOiD, that movie you went to see the other night, was it any good because I'm thinking of going to see it?"
"Sorry, I can't answer that because it would require me giving you my opinion. And any opinion about the movie is dependant so much on personal preferences that it would be senseless and not helpful of me to tell you anything about it, even though I saw it and might/might not have enjoyed it. Therefore I cannot tell you whether I think it was good or not, and I refuse to speak about it any more."
Edit:
"MatDrOiD, that girl over there is pretty hot yes?"
"Why are you asking such a nonsensical question? My opinion has no bearing to you on whether she looks nice or not. I could say yes, but someone else could say no. So in that sense I will just stay quiet and not give any opinion about it one way or the other."
Edit2:
"So Mr Hawking, what is your opinion about subatomic matter anti-matter particle deceleration in a flux void?"
"What a senseless question. Spend the next thirty years researching the subject and then make up your own opinion. Even though I am the most knowledgeable man on the planet on this subject, I refuse to give you my opinion."

zedmarcus said:
Personally I'd say go for an aosp rom. GB Sense rom's are great but most have some sort of issue with lags fc's etc and are constantly being updated.
Couple of the best would be...
GingerVillain. Richard trip just updated to version 3.1 which seems to be running well for most people.
Redux2. This is labeled as "test" status, but honestly, I was running this for a month and found no issues with it at all. Was the fastest and smoothest rom (when teamed with Go Launcher Ex) that I've had on my phone. (Still got my nandroid and tempted to go back).
Search the dev section and read a couple of the threads. But honestly I'd say stick with an aosp rom. There's some great one's about.
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+1 on this. Aosp rom would be my choice as well.
Ignore me, I'm a n00b posting via xda app.

@zedmarcus:
Your examples have nothing to do with the OP's question. In all your three of your examples the questioner asks for an opinion about a specific topic (movie, girl, subatomic matter).
In this topic the OP asks in general. If he asked something like "what do you guys think of oxygen or AOSP roms in general, then your example would be appropriate.
Furthermore, the thread title says "best rom".
Nevertheless, we should end this: Because of personal preferences I recommend lightweight AOSP roms like dGB, Oxygen or Redux.
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Girls, girls, quit bickering. There is no place on XDA for thin skins.
IMHO, Oxygen and Redux are two of the fastest and stablest ROMs if you dislike the HTC bells and whistles. I used to be a Leedroid and StarBurst mainstay, but since switching over to Oxygen, I haven't had one single incidence of bootloop, even after powering on after my battery fell out after I accidentally dropped my Desire onto a marble floor.

@MatDrOiD
I don't think you really understand what you're saying...
If you had even bothered reading the first post instead of just the title you would have seen that he is asking for a specific type of rom, "I need help choosing a ROM that is Fast, Smooth, Stable and has good battery life for everyday use."
And the specific topic in question here is a Desire ROM. Your arguement is SENSELESS.
But anyway...
+1 for an aosp rom
consider this thread finished

Aosp all the way
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Thank you so much “zedmarcus” for your advice and thanks “rootSU“ too.
@MatDrOiD
All I’m after is a Fast, Smooth and Stable ROM with good battery life.
Now I have two options,
1. I can download and try all ROMs available for HTC Desire for one week each (which will take months).
2. I can ask people what they would recommend, and based on recommendations I can decide on one ROM (or if it’s two or three, I can easily try them and that would only take few weeks).
In the interest of saving time, I have chosen option 2 and I still think I have done the right thing.
Remember this is a form for people around the world to help each other, share ideas and experience.

No problem. Hope you find one that suits your needs

Consider trying AOSP mate, most if not all of those criteria you're looking are present. Currently using Gingervillain 3.1, for me its fast.
But speaking of battery life, i want to know the opinion of others....im a moderate user, brightness to low, only used wifi as of the moment for surfing the net, turns it on only if needed but one time i fell asleep leaving wifi on for more or less 7hours.after 2days i still have 20%..is the batt good to your opinion????

siomay8 said:
Consider trying AOSP mate, most if not all of those criteria you're looking are present. Currently using Gingervillain 3.1, for me its fast.
But speaking of battery life, i want to know the opinion of others....im a moderate user, brightness to low, only used wifi as of the moment for surfing the net, turns it on only if needed but one time i fell asleep leaving wifi on for more or less 7hours.after 2days i still have 20%..is the batt good to your opinion????
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Its impossible to judge really, as usage differes and I can't tell anything about your usage without hard facts.
I can say from my experience, GV battery life is ok, but not as good as Oxygen, redux or dGB for my individual usage.

i just got my desire and i want a rom that everything works fine and i like the new sense 3.5. which rom do you recomend?

rootSU said:
Its impossible to judge really, as usage differes and I can't tell anything about your usage without hard facts.
I can say from my experience, GV battery life is ok, but not as good as Oxygen, redux or dGB for my individual usage.
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I see.....yeah cant really provide hard facts for now but surely will once i have, for the benefit of others...and i will definitely try those roms uve mentioned.OP, hope this help you narrow down the choices to consider.

@rootSU
forgot to say thanks!)

Well in my opinion too the best solution is an AOSP rom like oxygen or GingerVillain but i use insertcoin 1.1.0 for a long time and never had any trouble with bootloops or FCs or anything else and i heve and the great sense 2.1-3. and the battery life is 1,5 days with wifi GSM net some games and music!!! It's up to U

best rom/kernel for battery life?

I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Musik847 said:
I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Try a few....

The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.

nicholaschum said:
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.

running the leaked 4.0.4 with the latest lean kernel and its the best battery life i have seen yet . All radios and bootloader updated as well. Lean kernel settings , hotplugx , 1200-350 , standard voltage that comes with the kernel

No one has made any sort of test or extensive trial of the kernel and rom combinations for best battery life.
For my usage franco.kernel nightly 98 is working perfectly well with Liquid rom, but that might be different for your uses, and it might be different because you like to undervolt, or overclock and undervolt, and you use different programs in the background. etc.. etc.. etc.
If you would like to know the best combo, try them all and do tests. Maybe write it all down and come back. Hopefully nobody would have changed their rom or kernels in the meantime.

nodstuff said:
I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
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Nah, it's about time this forum will get clustered with these kinds of posts because more people are buying the phone and think they are so important that they need to make a new thread dedicated to their phone. As said in my sig, I encourage people to use search whenever possible, but I'm not the kind of person to diss another person when they don't use it

I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.

WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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And this is exactly why this kind of thread is pointless.
X amount of ppl think Franco has good battery.
Someone posts here saying it doesn't.
Who is wrong? No-one.
Its all about the user. Plain and simple. Everyone's habits are different.
I wasn't dissing the guy, my first post said it all "try a few"
You will never know which kernel is the best until you try them yourself.
Half the fun of xda is flashing and trying new ****!

WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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Same for me, in addition to other problems when running his kernels
The best combination I have tried so far is BAMF Paradigm ROM and Popcorn kernel. Using the gali something or other governor with just a few changes to it speedup.

Ooookay, I wasn't going to reply to similar thread, but since no one seems to be throwing out suggestions, here's mine from yesterday. There's more in that thread.

[Q] Best ROM ?

Hi i am absolutely new to flashs,mods and so on.
So my question is ... what ROM is probably the best in terms of speed, stability and especially USABILITY for my galaxy nexus GSM ??? and dont really like the stock ones, so maybe someone can suggest a really good custom one ....
pls help me !
kind regards from
3pikur

I prefer AOKP with Glados Kernel.

It has been said before that there is no "best" ROM, every user has different preferences and requirements in a ROM. Try them all.

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It has been said before that there is no "best" ROM, every user has different preferences and requirements in a ROM. Try them all.
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Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.

Ok thanks Buddys ... i just try it out ... Maybe i find one fitting my imagination.
peace to y'all

Well i have tried a lot also spent some bucks getting things trying to get better and after all that i figured that nothing its better than a stock image rooted in the long way Google fix the glitches and bugs and the system its way more stable and reliable
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zephiK said:
Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.
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Well its not impossible.. And you're right a few days of having each one installed is necessarily to draw a conclusion. What I meant was try them all that you find appealing. I wouldn't expect anybody to flash one that they didn't like the looks of just to "try them all" lol.
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Ok thanks Buddys ... i just try it out ... Maybe i find one fitting my imagination.
peace to y'all
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I'm sure you will there is plenty to choose from! Happy flashing.
msedek said:
Well i have tried a lot also spent some bucks getting things trying to get better and after all that i figured that nothing its better than a stock image rooted in the long way Google fix the glitches and bugs and the system its way more stable and reliable
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I prefer more customization than stock. I was on stock for months and finally got tired of it recently. I flashed AOKP and have really been enjoying all the extra options like the toggles and the custom batteries and such.

WiredPirate said:
Well its not impossible.. And you're right a few days of having each one installed is necessarily to draw a conclusion. What I meant was try them all that you find appealing. I wouldn't expect anybody to flash one that they didn't like the looks of just to "try them all" lol.
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Lol who knows. Someone might take the wrong way and actually download every single one of them and try them if they have the time to do so

No best rom. However, you can use this as a reference point: I am using AOKP b29 with Morfic's Trinity Kernel and all is smooth and great battery life.

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Lol who knows. Someone might take the wrong way and actually download every single one of them and try them if they have the time to do so
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I am quite sure there are plenty of people who have time to download and try each one of them...

I usually start by thinking of the specific options and customization that I want. From there just spend time looking at all of the roms available and if they contain what you want. If you can't find anything that way start flashing until you find what you want.
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zephiK said:
Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.
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I flash every ROM that gets posted. I then record battery life and usability.
Impossible?
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SocialReject said:
I flash every ROM that gets posted. I then record battery life and usability.
Impossible?
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Not everyone has the leisure to do that because there are so many ROMs and kernel combinations. The chances of testing EVERY single little thing with the same variables such as reception, apps, background data, usage (heavy, moderate, minimum usage), these are just many of the variables that affect battery life.
By the time you complete that task, something newer will be out. It's like asking, "what's the best phone?" are we going to buy every single phone and try it? No.. we're going to look at user feedback and draw our own personal conclusions on which is the best for us because there is no best phone/ROM/kernel... the best one is the one that fits our personality.
No need to be a jerk.

Aopk will do you perfectly from what your saying. Give milestone 4 a flash, stable quick loads of customisable options for you to play with. No Lagg, excellent performance aswell as battery life.
Nothing else springs to mind in terms of stability, other good roms out there and cm9 however it's in builds with no milestone, so less stable.
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Ow yeh and flash Franco kernel milestone 2, brings excellent performance and brilliant battery life. Put em together and bang there you go
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jordanprudent said:
...and cm9 however it's in builds with no milestone, so less stable.
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CM9 is ridiculously stable at the moment; they just have a different definition of "stable". That said, for people who like a plethora of customizations; it's not there yet.

As everybody points out, your choice of ROM is personal, so I'd just start flashing until you find one you love. Find a popular one (AOKP, Gummy, Code name, Tranquilice) and flash it. If you're in love, stick with it, if something bugs you, find another ROM that doesn't have that.
The nice part about Nandroid backups is that there is little risk of flashing something new, and you'll likely know within a few hours whether a given ROM is right for you, and can revert back easily.
For me, once I installed Gummy (Lean kernel), nothing else lasted more than a few hours on my phone. I may flash something else every so often, but I keep coming back. That's ROM love.

mudferret said:
CM9 is ridiculously stable at the moment; they just have a different definition of "stable". That said, for people who like a plethora of customizations; it's not there yet.
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That's true, I used it and it was very stable. Didn't use it for a long period though and as they are in nightlies still though they wouldn't be as stable. As you say though customisation wise its not there yet
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[Q] Best kernel for cm 7

im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?

I like aeroevans 8bfs kernel. His 8 cfs is good too but idk the difference really. His ics v9 kernel supposedly works with gingerbread but I haven't tried it

The v9 kernel works really well with cm7. I would really recommend using it. Battery life is much improved.

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.

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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.
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thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?

I fully agree. When you get a new device you are not sure what is old and what are outdated mods and what is the newest thing sometimes. I agree we should search first. But I have had times where I search and google and still no answers. Then when I finally post a question there is usually someone making a refference about another kitty being killed. I came from the Droid X2 which the phone was crap and Motorola sucks A$$ for locking the phones down. However that forum was very friendly and eager to help out noobs. I do understand some of the questions asked are a little crazy and you can tell they did not search. But if you are pissed about someone posting just ignore it and let some other helpful person respond. And if they post in the wrong section the MR Highway will come get them!! He is awesome at that! Keep up the great work Mr Highway. Sorry just my .02 cents. Also as the noobs learn they help out other noobs and hopefully you respected devs can ignore these simple questions. The DX2 was my first phone and I had no idea what I was doing. With the help of the DX2 community I got up to speed and was able to help others. Look at my thanks count. One noob helping another. I asked plenty of questions when I first came on here had some helpful feedback and some smart remarks. Well needless to say I am now comfortable with flashing Roms,Kernel,radio and moving back and forth from AOSP,Sense, and ICS and I found all the fixes and work around ICS by reading the threads and not asking questions here. Just some food for thought.

SynysterSilence said:
thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?
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Again, our phone lacks a large variety of kernels, however the few we have are solid (probably the reason we dont have 2000 of them xD)
The only kernel i've really used for sense is drellisdee's #21 kernel, it comes with all the usual cpu governors and is included in a lot of ext4 sense roms. It works on sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 in my experience as well.
Hopefully that was of some help :s

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold
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This is the Problem I have right here.. so he knows it was most likely posted over and over and just said f it I don't want to look.
Zax_Was_Here said:
I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions.
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Yes, he did post this in the right section if it was just kernel and not ROM specific with CM7.2 why just question for AOSP or sense? And I wasn't rude in my response to him as far as him posting a question. I am irritated knowing that we have just recently had a lot of problems in this thread with people just simply asking questions they could've searched for and reposting the same thing 8,000,000 times (su, killall drmserver) ya that is familiar
Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison..
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Thank god our device doesn't have many different ones to look into. Its not like its hard again to search kernel and see what shows up.
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its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers
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Its lack of wanting to put in any time with search and asking the same exact questions over and over that makes DEV's leave.
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There were plenty of more posts to quote but I think I proved my point.
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Im locking this, before it goes south, an in my eyes, that's what it's looking like.

Battery life!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?

Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.

Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.

You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.

Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.

that was a difficult read. so i didn't

My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.

I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone

First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
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Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.

3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond

Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.