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Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.
Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?
CWKJ said:
Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?
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Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.
dupel said:
Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.
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Agree, the steps above wont solve any lag issue even if its related to having low free mem, zero difference.. nothing.. zilch!
I'm using Eclair with Samsung task Manager from Samsung Apps.
My phone was lagging a lot. There were moments when I just [email protected]#[email protected]$#@ But this is how I got rid of most of the lag. My guess is that maybe it has something to do with the Market. I don't know, but definitely I'm not lying.
In my opinion the problem is not memory related. My wife's phone (just 20 apps installed) always has 100+ MB free memory and still had lag. With this "fix" the problem is almost gone.
You should not clear RAM.
It will empty your ram and clear all running program, so you will have a lot of free ram.
Lot of free ram means WASTED ram!
Linux systems are made to use all available ram and clear it when needed so if you empty it it will just be wasted.
ludovicianul said:
Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.
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No offence but this is complete rubbish
I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.
ludovicianul said:
I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.
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This is amusingly cute But this is not a "lag fix." It has been established hundreds of times that the "lag" is caused by Samsung's implementation of RFS. It is fixed by replacing the filesystem with something else. Nothing to do with free RAM.
Galaxy S has lots RAM so free RAM is generally not a problem. If it is, flashing one of the kernels with ~341MB of RAM will help notably (a lot better than this mucking around killing things).
Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.
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Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.
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Your thread title says otherwise. Anyways, like some other person has pointed out already this is rubbish.
Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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I'm trying to be nice here, so please bear with me. We are not offended by your contributions, it is just that what you have written is not substantiated by facts. There is simply no correlation between what you have done to the elimination of the lag in the SGS.
It may have worked for you, and I'm not doubting that. But then again, I'm using hardcore optimized kernel and also the modded twlauncher. Right now, I don't even need to apply any lagfixes. User experience has been very satisfying.
It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me
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Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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Apologies if I sounded offended, I am not. However, you did come across as a bit pompous (claiming to know more about RAM etc) and at the same time offered a 'solution' which does nothing to fix the lag issue and is simply misleading at best. Even the changed thread title is still very arbitrary.
Users, especially new users, may stumble upon this 'solution' and it really won't help them (at least as far as the lag is concerned), so it helps to be accurate in providing possible solutions.
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It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me
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Nice. But the lag seems to occur with alternative launchers as well and within apps.
Wel i def agree with running LP over TouchWiz.. I found it very laggy on JPO.. LP on the otherhand...Smooth as silk
Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.
as always: if you don't know what you're doing, don't post it as a "fix" or general truth...
I've said it before and i'll say it again:
alcohol helps very well against a head each... but it's not a cure!
What we're trying to accomplish here, is a CURE...
ludovicianul said:
Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.
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No problem. And thanks for your suggestions.
So I recently unlocked my bootloader and have been trying various roms; however, whenever I try an ICS rom, I always experience framerate lag on gameboid (with sound on). FPSE and N64oid seem to run at full speed. I've have tried overclocking as well, but I still experience the same lag. Is there anything I can do to alleviate this, or should I just go back to GB?
Frame skip to 0.
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Frame skip to 0.
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Thanks, I tried that and the video lag is gone, but now the audio seems very glitchy and jumpy. Is that supposed to happen?
I've noticed this as well, but haven't put any thought into it being caused by ICS. I'll play with some settings and see what I can find out.
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Thanks, I tried that and the video lag is gone, but now the audio seems very glitchy and jumpy. Is that supposed to happen?
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Setting frameskip to automatic mode & 1, fixes audio lag for me and doesn't seem to affect video
phillipsteak said:
So I recently unlocked my bootloader and have been trying various roms; however, whenever I try an ICS rom, I always experience framerate lag on gameboid (with sound on). FPSE and N64oid seem to run at full speed. I've have tried overclocking as well, but I still experience the same lag. Is there anything I can do to alleviate this, or should I just go back to GB?
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B*tch please, Gameboid can't even start a game on FXP116 CM9! Please tell me what rom are you using
Anyways setting frameskip to 0 or sometimes even automatic often fixes "emulator lag" in every device that can run one (PC, PSP, etc.), at least for me.
phillipsteak said:
Thanks, I tried that and the video lag is gone, but now the audio seems very glitchy and jumpy. Is that supposed to happen?
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The framerate is fixable with the frame skip, but the sound will always experience that distortion. The better your CPU and RAM, the better the sound is processed, but overall it's difficult to get rid of the sound problems.
I use a Galaxy S 4g and I still get those sound issues.
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B*tch please, Gameboid can't even start a game on FXP116 CM9! Please tell me what rom are you using
Anyways setting frameskip to 0 or sometimes even automatic often fixes "emulator lag" in every device that can run one (PC, PSP, etc.), at least for me.
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That's funny, because FXP has only released 115 CM9 for the Play so far. Expect 116 later today, though, unless you compiled one yourself.
DanielEGVi said:
B*tch please, Gameboid can't even start a game on FXP116 CM9! Please tell me what rom are you using
Anyways setting frameskip to 0 or sometimes even automatic often fixes "emulator lag" in every device that can run one (PC, PSP, etc.), at least for me.
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FXP 116 CM9 is out already?
supernova457 said:
The framerate is fixable with the frame skip, but the sound will always experience that distortion. The better your CPU and RAM, the better the sound is processed, but overall it's difficult to get rid of the sound problems.
I use a Galaxy S 4g and I still get those sound issues.
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Well the sound works perfectly fine on CM7, but on CM9 it gets very glitchy. I'm assuming it's because how much of a ram hog ICS is.
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That's funny, because FXP has only released 115 CM9 for the Play so far. Expect 116 later today, though, unless you compiled one yourself.
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xRegrets said:
FXP 116 CM9 is out already?
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Damn, I meant FXP115
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phillipsteak said:
Well the sound works perfectly fine on CM7, but on CM9 it gets very glitchy. I'm assuming it's because how much of a ram hog ICS is.
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WRONG! Stock official ICS isn't actually a ram hog or battery hog, but other unofficial builds for some phone models are. For example, CM9 experiences battery drain and consumes half of the ram for Sony Xperia devices and others while it does not for some other phones, then there's the official Sony ICS beta for the Xperia devices built separately for each one, which runs smooth, and has its own problems, like broken wifi indicator.
tl;dr: If you are going to blame someone, it's the ones who built CM9 for your device, not Google, AOSP or your carrier.
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WRONG! Stock official ICS isn't actually a ram hog or battery hog, but other unofficial builds for some phone models are. For example, CM9 experiences battery drain and consumes half of the ram for Sony Xperia devices and others while it does not for some other phones, then there's the official Sony ICS beta for the Xperia devices built separately for each one, which runs smooth, and has its own problems, like broken wifi indicator.
tl;dr: If you are going to blame someone, it's the ones who built CM9 for your device, not Google, AOSP or your carrier.
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But in general, ICS is more resource intensive than GB will ever be, so even stock ICS (IMO) probably wouldn't run as efficiently as say CM7. (I might be talking out my ass, but this is the conclusion I've come to from user experience)
Edit: Also, my gameboid games are starting fine on CM9
This is what I did to fix the problem.. Turn your data connection off and the emulator will run a lot smoother
Hiya. Well as the topic suggests I am asking about Order And Chaos.
I play it on the regular. My question is has anybody on the E4GT gotten it to play smoothly? I play and get stuttering and random freeze-ups. I have tried numerous roms (stock and custom), heck it is the first thing I check after restoring apps. I know this phone is fast enough to run it so that is where my question comes from.
I have tried all sorts of different settings in ex tweaks, poured over the net and forums alike for fixes. Wrote Gameloft directly for some cheesy answers. Ran chainfire 3d with all the available plugins running... and more.
Lets just save space by saying if it is on the net to fix it or a game .... I have tried it.
I noticed the phone gets real hot while playing. A standard PC will engage a saftey slowdown for overheating, Does a phone do the same? I tore the back panel off and played in front of a fan but still it messes up.
I know it was designed for IOS, so maybe it will never work rite. Gameloft is slow to really fix any game. So I am turning to asking for help and advice. I will be a script tester if need be. Has anyone figured out how to make the game play better on the E4GT? I also play dead trigger and it is a far superior graphic demanding game. It plays smooth, and does not get as hot.
Thanks in advance for the help! :beer::beer:
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Have you tried checking the force gpu rendering box in developer settings? That seems to smooth out alot of games on my son's old kindle fire.
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Have you tried checking the force gpu rendering box in developer settings? That seems to smooth out alot of games on my son's old kindle fire.
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Yes, that is the first tweak I found and tried. It makes the game load with messed up colors. But man if it did not sound like a fix when I first found it...lol.
I think it is a heat issue or a memory transfer issue myself, but my experience is on a PC, and as we know a phone is different. Thanks Evil.
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robrooter said:
Yes, that is the first tweak I found and tried. It makes the game load with messed up colors. But man if it did not sound like a fix when I first found it...lol.
I think it is a heat issue or a memory transfer issue myself, but my experience is on a PC, and as we know a phone is different. Thanks Evil.
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Idk if dead trigger plays fine it maybe something in the games code itself. Possibly poor optimization when they ported it over from iOS to android
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Quite possible. Now it keeps closing on load....hahahahaha. that's what happens when you fool with something too much
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i am currently trying to play Sonic 2 game form the market on XPLAY HONAMIv2.1.4 ICS ROM but for some weird reason the game is running in fast motion I'ts like theirs no frame limiter on or something. i goggled this issue and it seems its common but no one seems to know how to fix it or why it occurs. on most ics roms this issue does not happen but here it does. i dont want to change my rom i want to fix this. my only thought could be something to do with the video card drivers/config.
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.