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I rooted my evo yesterday, so I am still completely new to how things work. (Though I have read the forums for a while)
I know I can flash a custom rom to fix the 28FPS limit I am getting, but I don't have time to completely wipe my phone and rebuild everything again.
It's kind of looking like I just flash a kernel? but I am not sure and I don't want to brick my phone.
Is there a way to just fix the performance limitations (i.e. FPS limit) and keep my stock 2.2 and all my settings/preferences?
Thank you.
I searched but didn't find anything that made sense.
Phone:
Evo w/ stock 2.2 (UnrEVOked3 root)
You should be able to just flash a custom kernel, but I don't know how those work on plain stock. Make sure you nand first.
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I have rooted stock 2.2 with Kings kernel #9. Works flawlessly. It's hard for me to go back to regular once the FPS is unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754128
Just flash the zip file from recovery. Make sure you do a nand backup before you start flashing the kernel.
Thanks for the info.
I will give it a try later.
Can I flash any kernel? Or how does that work?
I was looking at snap 8.2. Is it compatible with stock & sense?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099)
Also, once a kernel is flashed can you update it without problems or doing a full nandroid restore?
Thanks again,
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xNotta said:
Thanks for the info.
I will give it a try later.
Can I flash any kernel? Or how does that work?
I was looking at snap 8.2. Is it compatible with stock & sense?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099)
Also, once a kernel is flashed can you update it without problems or doing a full nandroid restore?
Thanks again,
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No. Go for Netarchy's or Kingklick's kernels for 2.2 Sense roms. Snap is only for cm6/AOSP style roms.
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No. Go for Netarchy's or Kingklick's kernels for 2.2 Sense roms. Snap is only for cm6/AOSP style roms.
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Netarchy, Kingklick, or Hero_over's kernel
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Netarchy, Kingklick, or Hero_over's kernel
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+1.
I'm using hero 4 on stock odex with no issues and great battery life.
Thank you.
I will read into each kernel.
Any suggestions on which is best/worst?
EDIT: Thought I would post some links to each kernel you listed:
KiNgxKernel
netarchy-toastmod
I couldn't find the link for Hero_over's kernel. The forums search function is down for some reason.
Please correct me if those aren't the correct or official links to the kernels.
with netarchy it says:
An important note for Clockwork mod Recovery users:
Clockwork Mod is reportedly not wiping correctly (ie; if you try to wipe cache/dalvik-cache/data/etc it's not actually doing it, or not doing it right)
You may want to consider using Amon Ra Recovery instead.
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I am using clockwork, so I think that eliminates netarchy from my choices.
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xNotta said:
Thank you.
I will read into each kernel.
Any suggestions on which is best/worst?
EDIT: Thought I would post some links to each kernel you listed:
KiNgxKernel
netarchy-toastmod
I couldn't find the link for Hero_over's kernel. The forums search function is down for some reason.
Please correct me if those aren't the correct or official links to the kernels.
with netarchy it says:
I am using clockwork, so I think that eliminates netarchy from my choices.
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not wiping correctly may cause your phone to bootloop no matter the kernel(Fresh's seems to be particularly sensitive to it), you should be ok though. If it happens just keep redoing it till it works.
I'm using netarchy's 4.1.9 cfs ATM and it's working great. Smooth as butter.
king kernel is really good, thats what im on right now. medium use: 500+ texts, wifi on, data on, hour of browsing, 30 mins of music playing, live wallpaper. with all that im hitting ~13 hours and im at 8% right now. king kernel is pretty good, nice and smooth too
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king kernel is really good, thats what im on right now. medium use: 500+ texts, wifi on, data on, hour of browsing, 30 mins of music playing, live wallpaper. with all that im hitting ~13 hours and im at 8% right now. king kernel is pretty good, nice and smooth too
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Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
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xNotta said:
Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
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im on the latest king kernel which is BFS (the king kernel #9)
as for backing up your kernel...i dont know...(didnt know that was possible). once you unlock fps, you'll never want to go back.
edit: also forgot to add that my screen off is underclocked to max:245 and min:245. so that made a HUGE difference in battery life
xNotta said:
Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
I added a poll. Please vote for your favorite.
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There really is no generalization for which is better, BFS or CFS. Every phone is slightly different in build due to margin of error in production. Some people have great results with BFS where others do not. I tried both extensively on Netarchy and much prefer CFS (better performance and battery). Why? I don't know. It just works for me. You will probably have to do some experimenting of your own.
Edit: Also concerning recoveries, I would go ahead and flash Amon_RA's recovery over ClockworkMod just to avoid conflicts. Amon works with everything is very straightforward to use.
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Edit: Also concerning recoveries, I would go ahead and flash Amon_RA's recovery over ClockworkMod just to avoid conflicts. Amon works with everything is very straightforward to use.
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Rom Manager won't work with Amon_RA, will it?
I still know very little about root abilities so I would like so stay with something easy like rom manager.
And are Nandroid back ups interchangeable between recovery images?
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xNotta said:
Rom Manager won't work with Amon_RA, will it?
I still know very little about root abilities so I would like so stay with something easy like rom manager.
And are Nandroid back ups interchangeable between recovery images?
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you can use rom manager to install ra, but then all you'll be able to use rom manager for is to download roms. Which is still ok - some folks prefer it this way, because some things shouldnt be too easy, if you know what I mean. If you let a tool do all the work, what do you do when that tool breaks or is unavailable, and you have to do it manually?
ra can only be used outside of rom manager. Nands cannot be used between ra and clockwork - if you backup with ra, you need to restore with ra, and if you backup with clockwork, you need to restore with clockwork.
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you can use rom manager to install ra, but then all you'll be able to use rom manager for is to download roms. Which is still ok - some folks prefer it this way, because some things shouldnt be too easy, if you know what I mean. If you let a tool do all the work, what do you do when that tool breaks or is unavailable, and you have to do it manually?
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I know exactly where you are coming from.
This is only my first few days with root, so I want to make sure my first few backups are done correctly.
So, RA is a beter recovery?
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xNotta said:
I know exactly where you are coming from.
This is only my first few days with root, so I want to make sure my first few backups are done correctly.
So, RA is a beter recovery?
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I don't mean to be ambiguous, but it really depends who you talk to. Some people swear by RA, and insist that clockwork doesn't wipe properly. Other people can conclusively prove that clockwork does indeed wipe properly, and use that with no issues. Personally, I use clockwork, but do all my flashing and wiping manually and not through rom manager. The only time I ever had any issues was a while ago, with an older version of clockwork.
I also think that clockwork has the benifit of not requiring signed zips, but don't quote me on that.
edit - just wanted to add that some devs will specify one or the other to be specifically used for whatever it is that you'll be flashing. So if they say to use X to flash, you better try using X to flash before asking why you're having issues
idk im new to trying kernals, but im running fresh 2.2 and im only getting 31-33 fps.
using kinklicks bfs 9 kernal
any help?
I have tried most of the kernels listed. For me, the best has been Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 cfs. It is smooth and has not had a single glitch, which I can't say for the others I have tried. The second best I tried was the Baked snack battery kernel #5.
cfs or bfs? What I found was that bfs gave slightly better benchmark scores than cfs, but I had a lot of odd problems or glitches when running bfs kernels (mainly scrolling lag in some apps, and some apps fcing randomly). haven't had any problems with the cfs kernels. Frankly, I haven't found any advantage to bfs because, while it seems to give better benchmark scores, in actual use it seems much slower and more laggy to me than cfs.
Clockwork or AmonRa recovery? I have used both, only had a problem once (boot loop), and that was with clockwork. Since then, I have always used Amonra's recovery to flash with. When flashing just a kernel just wipe cache and Dalvik cache, then flash the kernel. As long as you do not wipe data (reset) you should not lose anything when you flash the kernel.
Oh, and when you do a nand backup, it backs up the kernel you are currently using with it. So you can easily switch back and forth to test by restoring your backups.
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I also think that clockwork has the benifit of not requiring signed zips, but don't quote me on that.
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As of version 1.8.0.0, Amon_RA's recovery no longer requires signed .zip's.
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I want to start off by saying thank you all for your help.
I have been doing some reading over the last month or so since I received my 2.2 update and have since rooted, removed bloat and am now trying to underclock to save battery. That being said... I have read about what others are recommending for a kernel for the Dinc and have a good idea of what i want.
My questions is How do I go about getting one? I have been doing some searches but all the info I am getting is help as to which one to get not how to get it. Once I get a kernel going I can then buy SetCPU and overclock/underclock right?
Sorry for the noob questions. Thank you all in advance for your help.
yes, you are correct. there are plenty of kernels for the incredible, but if you want to underclock and save battery, i recommend the bfs KingxKernel #5, best kernel ive tried yet
link
How do I get that kernel?
im guessing u are rooted and have installed clockwork recovery correct?
if so, you can just flash the kernel through there as if it were a rom, or if ur feelin kinda lazy, install it through rom manager
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How do I get that kernel?
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Just click on the link above to kingxkernel's thread, then there's a link to download each kernel to your sd card. Flash thru recovery.
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Unrevoked forever
SkyRaider Sense 3.2 RC3
KiNgxKernel BFS (#5)
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Also I've heard that being an xda member you can get a free copy of set cpu but I don't know how also if you don't mind buying I would still buy just to support the developer
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Sorry i was out of town for the weekend and just got back. yes i am rooted.
Alright so i did all of what you recommended... Now when i try to flash the kernel in reboot is says there is no file to be found. I can find the folder but when i go into the folder to flash the .zip it does not register. There are three folders in the kernel that i saved to my SD card.
I dont understand. What am i doing wrong?
Thank you for you responses. As always i really appreciate the help!
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Sorry i was out of town for the weekend and just got back. yes i am rooted.
Alright so i did all of what you recommended... Now when i try to flash the kernel in reboot is says there is no file to be found. I can find the folder but when i go into the folder to flash the .zip it does not register. There are three folders in the kernel that i saved to my SD card.
I dont understand. What am i doing wrong?
Thank you for you responses. As always i really appreciate the help!
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You aren't extracting the zip file are you? You just need to put it on the root of the sd card in the zip format, boot into recovery, select zip file, select the file, and it should install from there.
Where can I get a kernel that is compatible with CM6? I'd like to undervolt to try and save myelf some battery life.
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Where can I get a kernel that is compatible with CM6? I'd like to undervolt to try and save myelf some battery life.
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For CM6 and other AOSP roms, you can use kingxklick's AOSP kernels or koush's kernels.
http://kingxklick.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=224&p=2155#p2155
Koush's kernels-
http://www.clockworkmod.com/download/htc/inc/
test1, test2- are the kernels
I'd recommend the Adrynalyne Custom Kernel (v2). I've tried Kings kernels and they caused my phone to feel sluggish and didn't seem to help my battery life at all. Adrynalyne's kernel is not sluggish and definitely improved my battery life. You can download it with Rom manager under the Virtuous category.
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Thank you all for your help. This community is an incredible resource
ozzman54 said:
I'd recommend the Adrynalyne Custom Kernel (v2). I've tried Kings kernels and they caused my phone to feel sluggish and didn't seem to help my battery life at all. Adrynalyne's kernel is not sluggish and definitely improved my battery life. You can download it with Rom manager under the Virtuous category.
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Can i use the Adrynalyne Kernal with a stcok type ROM? It Have a ROM but it is basically stock. (I only flashed to be Deodexed)
would love to try this Kernal
Yes. Adrynalyne Custom Kernel (v2) is for sense, so long as you use it on a sense ROM, which covers "stock type ROMs."
I rooted my Evo yesterday and flashed myns rom. I like the stock Rom that my phone came with and I would like to return to it. I would like to improve battery life as much as I can but with the stock Rom. So my questions are, Where can I download the stock Rom? I have hw 004 and it came with 3.30.651.3 second question is, what could I do to the stock Rom to improve battery life?
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Sprint Lovers is a very close to stock rom, your best bet probally lies there. After that, you can try running a few apps like SetCPU and Juice Defender. You do have to pay for SetCPU from the marketplace though, so it may not be your first choice.
A task watcher or killer also helps, I tend to lean towards Watchdog over something like Advanced Task Killer. You can also try AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, but if you don't know what you're doing, I'd suggest leaving it on the standard settings.
Is the stock available for download? Let's just say incase of warranty purposes and I had to unroot
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You should ALWAYS nandroid backup your current phone image before flashing any ROMs. If you would have, you'd be able to easily revert to the stock.
It is available somewhere, but not sure where for 004/3.30.
terrel_b said:
You should ALWAYS nandroid backup your current phone image before flashing any ROMs. If you would have, you'd be able to easily revert to the stock.
It is available somewhere, but not sure where for 004/3.30.
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I did nandroid backup it was part of the instructions I followed to flash a rom. I didn't know that nandroid backup was for that. Thank you.
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Watch out, doing that nandroid recovery doesn't get you back to the stock rom for Sprint warrenties.
What you want is How to Unroot the EVO in 2 steps. After that you can take it back to Sprint with no worries whatsoever.
phajen said:
Watch out, doing that nandroid recovery doesn't get you back to the stock rom for Sprint warrenties.
What you want is How to Unroot the EVO in 2 steps. After that you can take it back to Sprint with no worries whatsoever.
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So what is I want a stock rom with some of the sprint stuff removed, is there a way to remove the sprint stuff manually?
Nandroid recovery then unroot for warranty purposes correct? I want to stay rooted so I just did Nandroid recovery...I'm all good for now. Just wanted stock Rom
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ahfu25 said:
I rooted my Evo yesterday and flashed myns rom. I like the stock Rom that my phone came with and I would like to return to it. I would like to improve battery life as much as I can but with the stock Rom. So my questions are, Where can I download the stock Rom? I have hw 004 and it came with 3.30.651.3 second question is, what could I do to the stock Rom to improve battery life?
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In these forums are rooted odex/deodex versions of 3.30.xxx.x. Choose your flavor. Improving battery life is subjective at best and the answer comes from you trying anything and everything. People can tell you what works for them but you should take it with a grain of salt, try it, and expect the worst.
Personally, I improved battery life with one simple solution...extended battery. I have tried many roms for the evo and have settled on a rom I built myself. It's funny because I flashed kernels and roms trying to find the best for me and I ended up making my own and using the stock kernel (I have also extended the stock kernel but that's a different animal).
ahfu25 said:
Is the stock available for download? Let's just say incase of warranty purposes and I had to unroot
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Yes. If you put in the effort you can find anything and everything you need in these forums. If you're good with google you can venture further. I'm not trying to be a **** but I am trying to let you know everything and anything you need is easily found somehwere in this wonderland of a forum.
KeithGS said:
So what is I want a stock rom with some of the sprint stuff removed, is there a way to remove the sprint stuff manually?
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If you are rooted get titanium backup and uninstall whatever you want including sprint apps.
ahfu25 said:
Nandroid recovery then unroot for warranty purposes correct? I want to stay rooted so I just did Nandroid recovery...I'm all good for now. Just wanted stock Rom
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Again for me I settled on a stock rom I built. I still uninstalled all the sprint stuff and I found that uninstalling every single sense related gibberish helped improve my evo overall (battery, speed, responsiveness, memory space). My info/personal experience is also subjective but you can take it, try it, and if it doesn't work for you nandroid restore is your friend and lifesaver.
Good luck.
Thank you very much. I don't thing your being a ****, I Google a lot of what I asked I just can be a bit ocd and wanted to get info from a forum I trust. Its been a while since I did any flashing but I pick things up pretty fast. I'm gonna try sprint lovers next since its close to stock and experiment with others until I find what fits me best. Again thanks for your input.
lovethyEVO said:
In these forums are rooted odex/deodex versions of 3.30.xxx.x. Choose your flavor. Improving battery life is subjective at best and the answer comes from you trying anything and everything. People can tell you what works for them but you should take it with a grain of salt, try it, and expect the worst.
Personally, I improved battery life with one simple solution...extended battery. I have tried many roms for the evo and have settled on a rom I built myself. It's funny because I flashed kernels and roms trying to find the best for me and I ended up making my own and using the stock kernel (I have also extended the stock kernel but that's a different animal).
Yes. If you put in the effort you can find anything and everything you need in these forums. If you're good with google you can venture further. I'm not trying to be a **** but I am trying to let you know everything and anything you need is easily found somehwere in this wonderland of a forum.
If you are rooted get titanium backup and uninstall whatever you want including sprint apps.
Again for me I settled on a stock rom I built. I still uninstalled all the sprint stuff and I found that uninstalling every single sense related gibberish helped improve my evo overall (battery, speed, responsiveness, memory space). My info/personal experience is also subjective but you can take it, try it, and if it doesn't work for you nandroid restore is your friend and lifesaver.
Good luck.
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wondering..
is the unrevoked hboot drivers this?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.p...driver_install
also where is the SDK link?
I have read up on some sites, but still sort of unclear. I have a EVO 4G, on sprint, on the stock rom and rooted 2.3.3, I have removed all the bloatware and am curious about Overclocking the phone.
My question is, can I flash freedom's kernel on the stock sprint rom? And if I can, Ill need to run freedoms sense kernel correct? thanks again.
RAPIDFIREGTP said:
I have read up on some sites, but still sort of unclear. I have a EVO 4G, on sprint, on the stock rom and rooted 2.3.3, I have removed all the bloatware and am curious about Overclocking the phone.
My question is, can I flash freedom's kernel on the stock sprint rom? And if I can, Ill need to run freedoms sense kernel correct? thanks again.
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Yes you can....
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Any Sense kernel should work. As long as it says it's for Sense and not AOSP you should be good. Probably wouldn't hurt to do a backup just in case it doesn't boot.
Yeah I already made a Nandroid Backup, Im kinda paranoid with the wont boot up thing lol. Thanks again guys.
Make sure u use a GB kernel on a GB rom or you will lose camera and video capabilities
We are legion, for we are many.
You must use sense based kernels on sense roms, and aosp kernels on aosp roms. Some can be interchanged, but expect broken things; Wimax, wifi, camera, etc.
As long as you're backed up, if it boot loops, just go into recovery and restore. Everything will be fine. Add a side note, download titanium backup. Will eventually save your ass one day.
Edit: also, as started, must be same platform too. Can't use GB kernel on froyo and vice versa
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Already have Titanium Backup, Froze all the nasty bloatware with it. Any specific kernel you guys recommend for me to download?
I've rooted a TouchPad to Android with good success but have never touched my phone (EVO 4G).
I want a ROM that still has sense on it but also one that does the following:
1) Better battery life
2) Any ROM that gets rid of credential storage for Enterprise wifi
3) Allows me to uninstall the stock Sprint apps
Thanks in advance.
Nitrus ROM 1.6.1. Super fast and no stock sprint app.
MIkG 3.11.More stock sprint app, but the useful ones.
Digital karma V7. Based on sense 1 so its very fast, but have the look of snese 4.
I used all three. you should try and pick your own.
I'm currently using Remics-UX from mazdarider. Loving it.
Fast, Smooth, no stock sprint apps, great battery life. Not too sure about the WiFi thing. It is my daily driver.
Thanks for the suggestions. I was going to try a few but since there were SO many I just wanted to find a good one to start off with. Thanks again.
I'm following the guide here for how to root: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-on-hboot-2-18-with-s-off/
However, how can I do a full backup of my stock phone before doing anything?
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I'm following the guide here for how to root: http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-on-hboot-2-18-with-s-off/
However, how can I do a full backup of my stock phone before doing anything?
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Yes once u root go into your recovery and back up your current stock rom just incase something happens.
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Flash them ALL!!!
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Yes once u root go into your recovery and back up your current stock rom just incase something happens.
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Problem is, that according to the directions I'm using it will wipe the device before I even get to root.
Ok I got Nitrous to work and is running on my phone. One thing I forgot to do is do a backup of the stock HTC/Sprint ROM before I started. How can I go back to do a backup of it?
Don't worry about the back up. I didn't do it and I'm just fine.
Feel the soapy goodness!!
If you do want to go back to stock, just grab an image from one of the threads in the wiki.
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I'm currently using Remics-UX from mazdarider. Loving it.
Fast, Smooth, no stock sprint apps, great battery life. Not too sure about the WiFi thing. It is my daily driver.
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Great rom....op mentioned wanting sense though.
Classic or nitrous for sense 1.0
MikG for sense 2.1 with 3.0 elements
Derp3D for sense 3.0
PrimeXL for sense 3.5
Those are some good options. They will all have bloat removed or made removable. Of those, classic is my favourite as it has the most baked in options and performance tweaks.
I'll have to keep monitoring nitrous. The battery seems to be draining faster than it did with my stock rom. I did do a battery calibration though.
Stryker412 said:
I'll have to keep monitoring nitrous. The battery seems to be draining faster than it did with my stock rom. I did do a battery calibration though.
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When ever u flash a new rom it will do that u need to give it couple of days
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