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[Q] FPS Fix for Stock 2.2?

I rooted my evo yesterday, so I am still completely new to how things work. (Though I have read the forums for a while)
I know I can flash a custom rom to fix the 28FPS limit I am getting, but I don't have time to completely wipe my phone and rebuild everything again.
It's kind of looking like I just flash a kernel? but I am not sure and I don't want to brick my phone.
Is there a way to just fix the performance limitations (i.e. FPS limit) and keep my stock 2.2 and all my settings/preferences?
Thank you.
I searched but didn't find anything that made sense.
Phone:
Evo w/ stock 2.2 (UnrEVOked3 root)

You should be able to just flash a custom kernel, but I don't know how those work on plain stock. Make sure you nand first.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

I have rooted stock 2.2 with Kings kernel #9. Works flawlessly. It's hard for me to go back to regular once the FPS is unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754128
Just flash the zip file from recovery. Make sure you do a nand backup before you start flashing the kernel.

Thanks for the info.
I will give it a try later.
Can I flash any kernel? Or how does that work?
I was looking at snap 8.2. Is it compatible with stock & sense?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099)
Also, once a kernel is flashed can you update it without problems or doing a full nandroid restore?
Thanks again,
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xNotta said:
Thanks for the info.
I will give it a try later.
Can I flash any kernel? Or how does that work?
I was looking at snap 8.2. Is it compatible with stock & sense?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099)
Also, once a kernel is flashed can you update it without problems or doing a full nandroid restore?
Thanks again,
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No. Go for Netarchy's or Kingklick's kernels for 2.2 Sense roms. Snap is only for cm6/AOSP style roms.

daneurysm said:
No. Go for Netarchy's or Kingklick's kernels for 2.2 Sense roms. Snap is only for cm6/AOSP style roms.
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Netarchy, Kingklick, or Hero_over's kernel

jerryparid said:
Netarchy, Kingklick, or Hero_over's kernel
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+1.
I'm using hero 4 on stock odex with no issues and great battery life.

Thank you.
I will read into each kernel.
Any suggestions on which is best/worst?
EDIT: Thought I would post some links to each kernel you listed:
KiNgxKernel
netarchy-toastmod
I couldn't find the link for Hero_over's kernel. The forums search function is down for some reason.
Please correct me if those aren't the correct or official links to the kernels.
with netarchy it says:
An important note for Clockwork mod Recovery users:
Clockwork Mod is reportedly not wiping correctly (ie; if you try to wipe cache/dalvik-cache/data/etc it's not actually doing it, or not doing it right)
You may want to consider using Amon Ra Recovery instead.
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I am using clockwork, so I think that eliminates netarchy from my choices.
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xNotta said:
Thank you.
I will read into each kernel.
Any suggestions on which is best/worst?
EDIT: Thought I would post some links to each kernel you listed:
KiNgxKernel
netarchy-toastmod
I couldn't find the link for Hero_over's kernel. The forums search function is down for some reason.
Please correct me if those aren't the correct or official links to the kernels.
with netarchy it says:
I am using clockwork, so I think that eliminates netarchy from my choices.
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not wiping correctly may cause your phone to bootloop no matter the kernel(Fresh's seems to be particularly sensitive to it), you should be ok though. If it happens just keep redoing it till it works.
I'm using netarchy's 4.1.9 cfs ATM and it's working great. Smooth as butter.

king kernel is really good, thats what im on right now. medium use: 500+ texts, wifi on, data on, hour of browsing, 30 mins of music playing, live wallpaper. with all that im hitting ~13 hours and im at 8% right now. king kernel is pretty good, nice and smooth too

ms79723 said:
king kernel is really good, thats what im on right now. medium use: 500+ texts, wifi on, data on, hour of browsing, 30 mins of music playing, live wallpaper. with all that im hitting ~13 hours and im at 8% right now. king kernel is pretty good, nice and smooth too
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Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
I added a poll. Please vote for your favorite.

xNotta said:
Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
I added a poll. Please vote for your favorite.
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im on the latest king kernel which is BFS (the king kernel #9)
as for backing up your kernel...i dont know...(didnt know that was possible). once you unlock fps, you'll never want to go back.
edit: also forgot to add that my screen off is underclocked to max:245 and min:245. so that made a HUGE difference in battery life

xNotta said:
Wow! that is double my current battery time with stock and everything turned off to conserve power.
Should I use BFS or CFS?
Can I back it up my kernel so I can reflash it if I ever need to?
(there is a link to stock kernel on netarchy's xda post)
I added a poll. Please vote for your favorite.
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There really is no generalization for which is better, BFS or CFS. Every phone is slightly different in build due to margin of error in production. Some people have great results with BFS where others do not. I tried both extensively on Netarchy and much prefer CFS (better performance and battery). Why? I don't know. It just works for me. You will probably have to do some experimenting of your own.
Edit: Also concerning recoveries, I would go ahead and flash Amon_RA's recovery over ClockworkMod just to avoid conflicts. Amon works with everything is very straightforward to use.
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sombdy said:
Edit: Also concerning recoveries, I would go ahead and flash Amon_RA's recovery over ClockworkMod just to avoid conflicts. Amon works with everything is very straightforward to use.
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Rom Manager won't work with Amon_RA, will it?
I still know very little about root abilities so I would like so stay with something easy like rom manager.
And are Nandroid back ups interchangeable between recovery images?
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xNotta said:
Rom Manager won't work with Amon_RA, will it?
I still know very little about root abilities so I would like so stay with something easy like rom manager.
And are Nandroid back ups interchangeable between recovery images?
Sent from my Evo using XDA App.
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you can use rom manager to install ra, but then all you'll be able to use rom manager for is to download roms. Which is still ok - some folks prefer it this way, because some things shouldnt be too easy, if you know what I mean. If you let a tool do all the work, what do you do when that tool breaks or is unavailable, and you have to do it manually?
ra can only be used outside of rom manager. Nands cannot be used between ra and clockwork - if you backup with ra, you need to restore with ra, and if you backup with clockwork, you need to restore with clockwork.

fachadick said:
you can use rom manager to install ra, but then all you'll be able to use rom manager for is to download roms. Which is still ok - some folks prefer it this way, because some things shouldnt be too easy, if you know what I mean. If you let a tool do all the work, what do you do when that tool breaks or is unavailable, and you have to do it manually?
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I know exactly where you are coming from.
This is only my first few days with root, so I want to make sure my first few backups are done correctly.
So, RA is a beter recovery?
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xNotta said:
I know exactly where you are coming from.
This is only my first few days with root, so I want to make sure my first few backups are done correctly.
So, RA is a beter recovery?
Sent from my Evo using XDA App.
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I don't mean to be ambiguous, but it really depends who you talk to. Some people swear by RA, and insist that clockwork doesn't wipe properly. Other people can conclusively prove that clockwork does indeed wipe properly, and use that with no issues. Personally, I use clockwork, but do all my flashing and wiping manually and not through rom manager. The only time I ever had any issues was a while ago, with an older version of clockwork.
I also think that clockwork has the benifit of not requiring signed zips, but don't quote me on that.
edit - just wanted to add that some devs will specify one or the other to be specifically used for whatever it is that you'll be flashing. So if they say to use X to flash, you better try using X to flash before asking why you're having issues

idk im new to trying kernals, but im running fresh 2.2 and im only getting 31-33 fps.
using kinklicks bfs 9 kernal
any help?

I have tried most of the kernels listed. For me, the best has been Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 cfs. It is smooth and has not had a single glitch, which I can't say for the others I have tried. The second best I tried was the Baked snack battery kernel #5.
cfs or bfs? What I found was that bfs gave slightly better benchmark scores than cfs, but I had a lot of odd problems or glitches when running bfs kernels (mainly scrolling lag in some apps, and some apps fcing randomly). haven't had any problems with the cfs kernels. Frankly, I haven't found any advantage to bfs because, while it seems to give better benchmark scores, in actual use it seems much slower and more laggy to me than cfs.
Clockwork or AmonRa recovery? I have used both, only had a problem once (boot loop), and that was with clockwork. Since then, I have always used Amonra's recovery to flash with. When flashing just a kernel just wipe cache and Dalvik cache, then flash the kernel. As long as you do not wipe data (reset) you should not lose anything when you flash the kernel.
Oh, and when you do a nand backup, it backs up the kernel you are currently using with it. So you can easily switch back and forth to test by restoring your backups.

fachadick said:
I also think that clockwork has the benifit of not requiring signed zips, but don't quote me on that.
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As of version 1.8.0.0, Amon_RA's recovery no longer requires signed .zip's.
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Baked snack kernel

Can I use baked snacks kernel on a different Rom? I'm looking to improve battery life

I don't see why not. Nand backup and go for it.

EVOme said:
I don't see why not. Nand backup and go for it.
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Is that what makes it have good battery?
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Rocklee99 said:
Is that what makes it have good battery?
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what? doing the nand backup? that's just in case the kernel doesn't work you can restore to the previous condition your phone was in (so do it before you flash baked's kernel)
I'm not sure if his kernels will work on other roms though, I think I tried once

I've used it on my ROM what ROM are you using that might help.

mistersquirrle said:
what? doing the nand backup? that's just in case the kernel doesn't work you can restore to the previous condition your phone was in (so do it before you flash baked's kernel)
I'm not sure if his kernels will work on other roms though, I think I tried once
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No I meant is the kernel what gives better battery, BTW I'm using ava froyo Rom v8
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Rocklee99 said:
No I meant is the kernel what gives better battery, BTW I'm using ava froyo Rom v8
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Yes the kernel can help with battery life. You should be ok with flashing a different kernel and that ROM but as posted do a NAND backup before flashing the kernel.

Does anyone know how good the battery is for baked snacks kernel and does anyone know where I can find his kernel #6 ?
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Rocklee99 said:
Does anyone know how good the battery is for baked snacks kernel and does anyone know where I can find his kernel #6 ?
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#6 has never been available for download. I used BS 1.7 on NA 4.19 and my battery was day and a half if not better with average use...seriously. I was amazed. I tried all the baked kernels and nothing worked like that.
Now I am on BS 1.8 using the same kernel and not getting near the same batt life.

EVOme said:
#6 has never been available for download. I used BS 1.7 on NA 4.19 and my battery was day and a half if not better with average use...seriously. I was amazed. I tried all the baked kernels and nothing worked like that.
Now I am on BS 1.8 using the same kernel and not getting near the same batt life.
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NA as in netarchy?
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Baked Snack
I have no clue how you guys are doing it, but I have the 1.7 version with kernel 6.
I took it off the charger this morning (after a full charge), it is now almost dead, with very little use.
How do you guys do it? Your not shopping the images are you?

This is a newb question I know, I have searched all over the forums. i have the stock rom and am not interested in any of the roms since most of them seem to not have 4g working or some other things( cant wait until they do!). My question is how do I flash just the kernel? i have never flashed anything before and I just backed up everything with rom manager. thanks!!!

mcskibadee1 said:
This is a newb question I know, I have searched all over the forums. i have the stock rom and am not interested in any of the roms since most of them seem to not have 4g working or some other things( cant wait until they do!). My question is how do I flash just the kernel? i have never flashed anything before and I just backed up everything with rom manager. thanks!!!
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Wipe cache, wipe dalvic, flash like you would a Rom. Don't forget to nand first.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
Edit - I'm assuming there's a specific kernel you have that you want to flash, and you didn't mean how to extract the kernel from a full Rom - also just noticed that you said you already backed up with rom manager. You may want to consider backing up manually through recovery or using amonra instead - nobody seems to know what exactly rom manager wipes when you tell it to wipe.

mcskibadee1 said:
This is a newb question I know, I have searched all over the forums. i have the stock rom and am not interested in any of the roms since most of them seem to not have 4g working or some other things( cant wait until they do!). My question is how do I flash just the kernel? i have never flashed anything before and I just backed up everything with rom manager. thanks!!!
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i think you're misinformed (or haven't searched hard enough) - most, if not all, sense based ROMs have everything working and some (i.e. wireless/usb tether, performance/efficiency tweaks, etc.). it's the cm/aosp roms that don't have everything working (yet).
flashing kernels is similar to flashing roms. there is a plethora of threads on the topic. read some of the stickies and many of your questions will be answered to get you started with flashing roms/kernels.

edit: sorry i never know about this is paid version i tooked from his old xda thread, BTW thanks for let me know about that

quocamole said:
i think you're misinformed (or haven't searched hard enough) - most, if not all, sense based ROMs have everything working and some (i.e. wireless/usb tether, performance/efficiency tweaks, etc.). it's the cm/aosp roms that don't have everything working (yet).
flashing kernels is similar to flashing roms. there is a plethora of threads on the topic. read some of the stickies and many of your questions will be answered to get you started with flashing roms/kernels.
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I have been on this forum for weeks trying to decipher all the lingo. I have not seen any Evo roms that have the 4g working, If i did I would have just used one of those.Trust me, i have searched all over this forum and others before bothering or asking stupid questions. Maybe I am searching the wrong stuff, I will search for sense based roms, thank you.
Also, I have never flashed anything before. Still trying to figure that one out. Thanks for the info guys!

mcskibadee1 said:
I have been on this forum for weeks trying to decipher all the lingo. I have not seen any Evo roms that have the 4g working, If i did I would have just used one of those.Trust me, i have searched all over this forum and others before bothering or asking stupid questions. Maybe I am searching the wrong stuff, I will search for sense based roms, thank you.
Also, I have never flashed anything before. Still trying to figure that one out. Thanks for the info guys!
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here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
all roms are there. aosp roms are usually the roms where everything is not working.
general steps to flashing (but always read the post from the developer for any special instructions):
1. download file to sd card
2a. get into recovery (either via quickboot app or via powering down then holding volume down button while powering up)
2b. navigating in recovery - volume keys to change selection, power button to select
3. nand backup
4. wipe data, cache and dalvik (only wipe cache and dalvik if you're flashing a kernel)
5. flash the rom/kernel you downloaded
6. reboot
7. drink beer
if something goes wrong, get back into recovery and restore your nand backup.
hope this gets you started.... but read, read, read.
good luck.
sorry OP - back on topic. did you wipe cache and dalvik before flashing the kernel? what's your up time and awake time (found in settings>about phone>battery). do you have any monitoring apps installed (i.e. system panel, android system info? you may have rogue app.

juancaperez2000 said:
here is the baked snak kernel 6 if you want it
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No offense but this is why Hero quit providing stuff at xda...Thanks though

juancaperez2000 said:
here is the baked snak kernel 6 if you want it
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good on you removing the link

Thank you quocamole, that helps.

[Q] Overckocking HTC Desire

Hi,
I have a HTC Desire, which I have rooted and am running the stock rom (froyo). I downloaded SetCPU in order to overclock it and realised that things are not as simple as I thought. I've read that in order to overclock a device I have to change the kernel to one that supports overclocking. Can any one help me with this? What kernel shall I install, how do I do it? Are there any good guides I can use?
Cheers

Kernels are easy to install, all you do is flash the .zip from recovery, look in the android development section there are a couple, also some custom roms like leedroid come with oc kernels
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

download Vork kernel form the below link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801915&highlight=vork
and flash it form the recovery mode....thatz it

Also, Make sure you use the correct kernel depending if you have a Sense/Senseless ROM. Only real Issue of note, rest should be painless really
KYI

1. I'm using Sense, is vork ok for that?
2. Am I correct in understanding that all I have to do is download it to the root folder of my SD card and just enter clockworkMod Recovery --> install zip from sd card?
3. Also does it make a difference which one I install? Are there any others that you'd recommend?
4. Are there any adverse effects from doing all this?
Sorry for having to spoon-feed me everything but im kind of new to this :-/

If you are rooted, recommend the LeeDroid custom rom. It's a very stable sense rom, that comes with the kernel for overclocking.
Careful when adjusting overclocking though. Do it in small steps. Your phone will become unstable when pushed too far. Mine is stable at 1190mhz. The kernel allows up to 1300mhz though!
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xp4nd3r said:
Sorry for having to spoon-feed me everything but im kind of new to this :-/
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Hey, Everyone was new at some point. At least you're Polite
You get one strike, too. Makesure you use the search function next time in case it has already been answered
KYI

I've tried to install the kernel, but no luck...
This is what i did...
I downloaded vorkKernelSense_r1-SVS-CFS-BFQ.zip to my sd card.
I switched off the phone and got in to the boot menu --> recovery --> install zip from sd card --> choose zip from sd card.... and click on the file...
this is what i get...
Installing: SDCARD:vorkKernelSense_r1-SVS-CFS-BFQ.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/vorkKernelSense_r1-SVS-CFS-BFQ.zip (bad)
Installation aborted.
I suspect im doing something wrong, can anybody help?
EDIT: ok it turns out the file was corrupted (/me is an ubernoob), vork underclocked the cpu so im trying out an other kernel, thanks for all your help guys!
EDIT2: I've just installed HAVS 2.6.32 (1113Mhz). The difference in speed is amazing, I basically wanted to overclock because Asphalt 5 HD (game) was very choppy on certain levels and now it playing like a PSP! thanks again to all who helped me!

hey, just a quick question from a n00b overclocker too
how can you tell if or not the phone is stable?, i am using the latest LeeDroid Rom, which has an overclocking function, but i a little hesitant in using it, as i dont wanna push the phone too far and end up having it go out on me
so, how can you tell if or the phone is stable?, i think this rom lets you do upto 1113mhz
thanks guys

If it's unstable it'll start doing re-boots.
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Kernel Troubles

Not sure if its the fact i am running CM 7 or what but whenever i try a different kernel then there stock everything boots just fine but the touch screen doesn't work. I am lost and have no clue what to try.

What kernel are you trying to flash?
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If running cm7, ya gotta flash a gingerbread AOSP kernel - try that.
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I believe it was the AOSP kernel part that i was missing. I finally got a Invisiblek to install. Thanks for the help.

bjohnson8949 said:
I believe it was the AOSP kernel part that i was missing. I finally got a Invisiblek to install. Thanks for the help.
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Invisiblek is the way to goon Gingerbread roms. I've flashed his newest with OMFGB 1.1.1, and it is awesome. No problems snappy, excellent battery too!

Sometimes people (including me) mix up AOSP and Sense, sadly they don't like to play with others if you install them with the wrong rom. Racists, pft.

I have only had the phone about a week now so I have had a lot to learn. So far everything seems good now and I am happy. Now if i could just get better battery life lol.

I was trying to install the following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746 I am getting same issue installs fine boots. Then when I try to unlock screen I get nothing. I have HtC incredible running cm 7 rc 3
clockworkmod 3.0.0.8
radio 2.15.00.11.19
If you need anymore information let me know.
I am doing the following for install.
reboot to recovery
clear cache
clear dalvik cache
install zip from sd card
Thanks for all the help already

bjohnson8949 said:
I was trying to install the following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746 I am getting same issue installs fine boots. Then when I try to unlock screen I get nothing. I have HtC incredible running cm 7 rc 3
clockworkmod 3.0.0.8
radio 2.15.00.11.19
If you need anymore information let me know.
I am doing the following for install.
reboot to recovery
clear cache
clear dalvik cache
install zip from sd card
Thanks for all the help already
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It worked fine for me...and still working
Maybe download it again and then try it. Just as a question are you by chance trying to flash a froyo kernel and not realizing it? Its gotta say gb or gingerbread
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I was trying to flash Tiamat Version 3.3.3-sbc -- Current Gingerbread with SBC from the link I posted.

bjohnson8949 said:
I was trying to install the following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746
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bjohnson8949 said:
I was trying to flash Tiamat Version 3.3.3-sbc -- Current Gingerbread with SBC from the link I posted.
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The link you provided is the EVO kernel. Have you tried the Inc kernel?
Evo: http://www.thebcblends.com/cayniarb/Kernels/evo/Tiamat_Evo-v3.3.3-sbc.zip
Inc: http://www.thebcblends.com/cayniarb/Kernels/inc/Tiamat_Inc-v3.3.3-sbc.zip
The zip files have different contents.
EDIT - I just realized the thread you linked has both the Inc and the Evo versions. I saw that it was in the Evo subforum and jumped to the wrong conclusion. In any regard, make sure you are flashing the right one.

I just flashed
Inc: http://www.thebcblends.com/cayniarb/Kernels/inc/Tiamat_Inc-v3.3.3-sbc.zip
and i am still having same problem. Any ideas ?
Edit: Messing around with rooted phones is something I have just started so it maybe something simple I am missing.

Not sure why my cell doesn't seem to like other kernels but
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905873
seems to be doing just fine so i will leave it alone.
Thanks for all the help.

Have you tried Incredikernel? Kernels are really a matter of personal preference, but Incredikernel seems to be one of the best. (And also my favorite.)

I gave it a shot a while back and had trouble. My issue is that he touch screen doesn't respond. Incredikernel is recommended in several places but i had zero luck with it supporting the screen. I have started to wonder if its support for slcd.
I will try it again and see what happens.

[Q] new rom/kernel

Hey guys, I just rooted my phone a few hours ago from the tutorial here on this site for my android 2.3.3 hboot 2.16....well i finally got to root it and got really excited. THe main 2 reasons i rooted were for wifi tethering and terrible battery life. Bought an extended battery before but didnt help much.
Anyway i think i flashed it lol with superuser? ( i backed up files with rom manager and myrombackup) I just downloaded set cpu with the following settings
enabled check notifications check
screen off priority 100 245 max 245 min performance
charging full priority 50 998 max 245 min ondemand
battery<75 priority 50 806 max 245 min ondemand
So my question is, are these good settings? how much better do you think my battery life will be with these settings?
oh and do roms and kernels come in like the same zip file? where i flash them together? and which do you guys think is best for battery life, but similar to the evo stock rom? i dont wanna change my phone too much, i like it, just didnt like the battery life...sorry if this question is redundant, but most of the threads i found were really old so i didnt wanna put in an old rom or kernel if i dont have to.... THANK u guys so much before hand.

If you want to stay stock there are a few roms in the development forum that are stock with bloat removed and minimal mods. You might check some of those out.
One example is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249615
The next step would be a ROM that is ported to the Evo but with a stock look. I am running MikG which I think is one of the best.
A ROM will always come with a kernel that will be flashed with it. You can always flash a different kernel over it later. Freedom is a good kernel (see my sig for a link).
Sent from my PC36100

If your looking for a stock rooted ROM with good battery life you might want to try a froyo ROM with an sbc kernel you will get almost 2 times more out of your battery and its the same old sense 1.0 so you won't even notice a difference.
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m20120 said:
If you want to stay stock there are a few roms in the development forum that are stock with bloat removed and minimal mods. You might check some of those out.
One example is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249615
The next step would be a ROM that is ported to the Evo but with a stock look. I am running MikG which I think is one of the best.
A ROM will always come with a kernel that will be flashed with it. You can always flash a different kernel over it later. Freedom is a good kernel (see my sig for a link).
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thanks a lot! but umm how is the battery life on MikG? and what does bloating mean and how do i remove them? lol sorry if i sound like a newbie :/ and ohh- one question on roms, can i keep this rom forever lol, or will it end up not working one day and ill have to update to another one???

omg3 said:
thanks a lot! but umm how is the battery life on MikG? and what does bloating mean and how do i remove them? lol sorry if i sound like a newbie :/ and ohh- one question on roms, can i keep this rom forever lol, or will it end up not working one day and ill have to update to another one???
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Battery is OK like any gb ROM and bloat is what we call any apps that come from our carrier that you don't want or need on the ROM like stocks ,nova , sprint TV etc..
Edit: you can remove apps "bloat" with any app that will let you like titanium backup I use antek app its free on the market.
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linsalata28 said:
If your looking for a stock rooted ROM with good battery life you might want to try a froyo ROM with an sbc kernel you will get almost 2 times more out of your battery and its the same old sense 1.0 so you won't even notice a difference.
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Thanks, again im sorry if i sound like such a newbie- but the evo comes with sense 1.0? i thought it was something more updated then that lol- and 2x better is a lot better! but um same question, will these roms just up and stop working one day even if i never update the sprint update? or will i be able to keep it if im happy?

omg3 said:
Thanks, again im sorry if i sound like such a newbie- but the evo comes with sense 1.0? i thought it was something more updated then that lol- and 2x better is a lot better! but um same question, will these roms just up and stop working one day even if i never update the sprint update? or will i be able to keep it if im happy?
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Yeah the evo got stuck with sense 1.0 even with the gb update .
If what ever ROM you flash works for you you can keep it forever if you like you will need to try out a few ROMs they all work different on each evo there are a few different types if evos .
What might work good for me might not for you.
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Here is a link to a very nice froyo ROM that runs nice and you can flash an sbc kernel for better battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
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linsalata28 said:
Yeah the evo got stuck with sense 1.0 even with the gb update .
If what ever ROM you flash works for you you can keep it forever if you like you will need to try out a few ROMs they all work different on each evo there are a few different types if evos .
What might work good for me might not for you.
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ohhh makes sense now thank u! should i just get the rom i want from this site?
and just to recap, i wipe/factory reset the phone from the loading screen, then backup? even if i already backed up?? and then flash the phone with the new rom and kernel?
Edit: just read ur last post thanks!

omg3 said:
ohhh makes sense now thank u! should i just get the rom i want from this site?
and just to recap, i wipe/factory reset the phone from the loading screen, then backup? even if i already backed up?? and then flash the phone with the new rom and kernel?
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What recovery are you using ?
I recommend amon ra 2.3 if your not already .
If you already backed up your ROM from recovery "nandroid backup" then you don't need to do it again its just in case something goes wrong so you can go back to it.
Yes download the ROM from here and the kernel then wipe everything except your sd card and battery stats "you can wipe your battery stats if your battery is at a 100%" then flash the ROM and then the kernel.
If you get any fc's after first boot fix permissions if that doesn't work go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache and reboot that will fix most problems.
Hope that helps you out.
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linsalata28 said:
What recovery are you using ?
I recommend amon ra 2.3 if your not already .
If you already backed up your ROM from recovery "nandroid backup" then you don't need to do it again its just in case something goes wrong so you can go back to it.
Yes download the ROM from here and the kernel then wipe everything except your sd card and battery stats "you can wipe your battery stats if your battery is at a 100%" then flash the ROM and then the kernel.
If you get any fc's after first boot fix permissions if that doesn't work go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache and reboot that will fix most problems.
Hope that helps you out.
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wow, you're super helpful
i actually used the superuser backup- from this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
what's the difference between that and amon ra 2.3?
also i did a backup from the recovery and also from rommanager.
and finally, lets say i get the rom you told me about, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 - (warm twopoint) it says on that thread,
As this ROM now uses the latest official HTC Kernel (#15) you MUST update your Radio/Wimax. I recommend Calkulin's combo update which is available here or via direct download here.
Installation Instructions:
Download Rom and Radio/Wimax updates and place in the root of SDCard.[/B]
umm does the kernel come in the same file as the rom that i download? and where do I get the radio/wimax updates and what do I do with them? do i flash them too and when?
(should I get a separate kernel for better battery life? some people commented that the battery life wasn't great with this rom, so should i use a different kernel?)

omg3 said:
wow, you're super helpful
i actually used the superuser backup- from this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
what's the difference between that and amon ra 2.3?
also i did a backup from the recovery and also from rommanager.
and finally, lets say i get the rom you told me about, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 - (warm twopoint) it says on that thread,
As this ROM now uses the latest official HTC Kernel (#15) you MUST update your Radio/Wimax. I recommend Calkulin's combo update which is available here or via direct download here.
Installation Instructions:
Download Rom and Radio/Wimax updates and place in the root of SDCard.[/B]
umm does the kernel come in the same file as the rom that i download? and where do I get the radio/wimax updates and what do I do with them? do i flash them too and when?
(should I get a separate kernel for better battery life? some people commented that the battery life wasn't great with this rom, so should i use a different kernel?)
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Superuser is an app the let you allow root to apps that need it.
You want to make a backup from recovery its called a nandroid backup I think you have clock work mod recovery you might want to switch to amon ra 2.3 you can get the link from my sig.
When you make a backup make sure to backup your wimax keys I think cwm does it on its own in ra2.3 you can pick and choose what you want to backup.
I'm not sure what radios your on but you should be good if you had 2.3 on your phone when you rooted it.
The ROM comes with a kernel but its the stock kernel give me a minute and I'll post a link to the ones that work with it.
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Here are some kernels that work with any 2.2 ROM I use 4.3.4 sbc cfs havs more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
Here is a guide to understand the different kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
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linsalata28 said:
Superuser is an app the let you allow root to apps that need it.
You want to make a backup from recovery its called a nandroid backup I think you have clock work mod recovery you might want to switch to amon ra 2.3 you can get the link from my sig.
When you make a backup make sure to backup your wimax keys I think cwm does it on its own in ra2.3 you can pick and choose what you want to backup.
I'm not sure what radios your on but you should be good if you had 2.3 on your phone when you rooted it.
The ROM comes with a kernel but its the stock kernel give me a minute and I'll post a link to the ones that work with it.
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ok, so im putting the PC36IMG.zip to my sd card, then putting phone into recovery, then putting install zip from sd card, and clicking on that PC36IMG...sound right?

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ok, so im putting the PC36IMG.zip to my sd card, then putting phone into recovery, then putting install zip from sd card, and clicking on that PC36IMG...sound right?
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For the recovery zip make sure its on the root of your sd not in any folder then boot to your bootloader not recovery you can download an app called quick boot to do that or just turn your phone off then hold down volume and power when it comes to the bootloader it will automatically scan for the update just hit volume up to except it then you can reboot the phone or go to recovery.
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You could download ROM Manager from the market and it has the option to flash ra2.3 in the app .
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You could download ROM Manager from the market and it has the option to flash ra2.3 in the app .
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So if I use rom manager I dont have to go to the bootloader screen? or do i have to do both? I already went to rom manager premium, then used alternate flash and now it says current recovery RA recovery v2.3 and latest recovery Clockworkmod 5.0.2.2....
Do i do a nandroid backup after setting up amona RA?

omg3 said:
So if I use rom manager I dont have to go to the bootloader screen? or do i have to do both? I already went to rom manager premium, then used alternate flash and now it says current recovery RA recovery v2.3 and latest recovery Clockworkmod 5.0.2.2....
Do i do a nandroid backup after setting up amona RA?
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No you don't have to flash it then I just forgot about rm and flashing it that way I don't use rm anymore only to fix permission.
Now when you go to recovery to make a backup go under backup/restore/ nand backup and select what you want to backup leave the ones that are checked then check android secure ,sdext if your sd is partitioned , and wimax I believe thats all I backup .
You don't need to backup recovery or cache .
You should also make a backup of just your wimax keys that way if you lose them in a flash you can restore just that and not have to restore a whole backup.
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linsalata28 said:
No you don't have to flash it then I just forgot about rm and flashing it that way I don't use rm anymore only to fix permission.
Now when you go to recovery to make a backup go under backup/restore/ nand backup and select what you want to backup leave the ones that are checked then check android secure ,sdext if your sd is partitioned , and wimax I believe thats all I backup .
You don't need to backup recovery or cache .
You should also make a backup of just your wimax keys that way if you lose them in a flash you can restore just that and not have to restore a whole backup.
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Thank you so much! I did it both ways anyway lol, I'm currently doing a nandroid backup for everything, then doing it juts for wimax. THen ill copy them to my computer and flash drive just incase.
Ok, so i think i decided, I'm gonna get the [ROM] Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo - [RLS 5 - 01/07/2011] - and for the kernel im gonna flash, 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) (can u make sure that's the one you have? and does it have at least 12 hours of moderate use? i text a lot, thats about it..)
ok now can you tell me if I have the steps right please?
- I'm going to download the rom Download Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 (Mirror 1) and paste it onto the root of my sd card.
- Then I'm going to download the kernel 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS)- and paste it to the root of my sd card.
- Then, I use quick boot to go into recovery, then I wipe what I have to wipe/factory reset, then I flash the rom....
- THen I dont have to wipe again, and i just flash the kernel...THen, I can use myrombackup to get all my apps and the information in the apps back...
Should i use set cpu with this rom and kernel? and is thiss correct? lol- I'm really excited btw thank u sooo much---and oh the kernel i have on my phone right now is kernel version- 2.6.35.10...

omg3 said:
Thank you so much! I did it both ways anyway lol, I'm currently doing a nandroid backup for everything, then doing it juts for wimax. THen ill copy them to my computer and flash drive just incase.
Ok, so i think i decided, I'm gonna get the [ROM] Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo - [RLS 5 - 01/07/2011] - and for the kernel im gonna flash, 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) (can u make sure that's the one you have? and does it have at least 12 hours of moderate use? i text a lot, thats about it..)
ok now can you tell me if I have the steps right please?
- I'm going to download the rom Download Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 (Mirror 1) and paste it onto the root of my sd card.
- Then I'm going to download the kernel 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS)- and paste it to the root of my sd card.
- Then, I use quick boot to go into recovery, then I wipe what I have to wipe/factory reset, then I flash the rom....
- THen I dont have to wipe again, and i just flash the kernel...THen, I can use myrombackup to get all my apps and the information in the apps back...
Should i use set cpu with this rom and kernel? and is thiss correct? lol- I'm really excited btw thank u sooo much---and oh the kernel i have on my phone right now is kernel version- 2.6.35.10...
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Use mybackup root to backup apps and data then use it to restore them.
Yes it sounds like you got it wipe everything except your sd card, battery stats and screen rotation I'll post a like to a super wipe I use that you can flash to make sure you wipe everything as well.
Then flash the ROM then the kernel then reboot.
If you get any force closes go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache then under other run fix uid package mismatch or what ever its called that will fix permissions from recovery.
http://www.4shared.com/file/p6mi6ogM/VR_SUPERWIPE.html
Flash this before you flash the ROM it will wipe everything for you do the wipes on your own as well.
After your all done you should download the app battery calibration and calibrate your battery to get more battery life it wipes you battery stats you can do it from recovery but you should just use the app it will tell you what to do.
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