So Samsung has announced a new processor in their Exynos line. Seems as though they are releasing this new processor by the end of this year. Here's the link. http://phandroid.com/2011/09/29/samsung-introduces-new-1-5ghz-exynos-4212-dual-core-processor/
The question is, will this be the processor which is will be in the Nexus Prime in relation to an OMAP processor and how powerful is this SOB gonna be given the 1.2 model in the E4GT is an absolute monster as it is? Second, how overclocked do you think this new processor is or will it have unlocked overclocking potential. This has been one of the most difficult decisions of my life because I am in absolute love with my E4GT but I've decided to return it and give it a month for the dust to settle. There is a heated spec war just over the horizon.
Nice find.
But what does this and all the other threads about "future phones" have to do with the E4GT? I know its comparing processors but there is an overall general forum for general talk like that.
SO sick of hearing about new stuff thats not even gonna be out for like half a year or later. I just want to enjoy the nice phone I just got. All this speculation and OOH and AHHs are just preventing people from wanting to get this phone and wait til the next big thing and makes us take a hit on development.
If you keep waiting til the next big thing you might as well wait forever because you can only have the baddest phone on the block for 4 months tops anyway and something better will be out.
Sorry for the rant.
Yea I didn't have this phone a week yet and Im already starting to feel obsolete reading about this lol
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Nice find.
But what does this and all the other threads about "future phones" have to do with the E4GT? I know its comparing processors but there is an overall general forum for general talk like that.
SO sick of hearing about new stuff thats not even gonna be out for like half a year or later. I just want to enjoy the nice phone I just got. All this speculation and OOH and AHHs are just preventing people from wanting to get this phone and wait til the next big thing and makes us take a hit on development.
If you keep waiting til the next big thing you might as well wait forever because you can only have the baddest phone on the block for 4 months tops anyway and something better will be out.
Sorry for the rant.
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Good thing you ask, seems as though Samsung and Google announced the date they will be announcing the Nexus Prime today. That will be on October the 11th. Won't be long, less then 2 weeks from now before we can put all these rumors to rest. Don't get me wrong, trust me, I'm a more hardcore E4GT lover than you can imagine. Here's the link to the upcoming announcement within 2 weeks http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...-expected-on-on-october-11th-droid-prime-too/
It's basically a EG4T with NFC, possibly LTE with Sprints upcoming network expansion, a 720 p qHD specialty screen with about a third more pixels per square inch and the new model processor. Oh, and possibly at 4.65 inches. These are the rumors circulating and the more I watch the more evidence that's popping up about the screen and the processor. Samsung just happens to announce a their new 1.5 ghz Exynos processor 2 weeks before the Primes announcement? All this with rumors suggesting the OMAP processors have been behind in production?
dev_man77 said:
Nice find.
But what does this and all the other threads about "future phones" have to do with the E4GT? I know its comparing processors but there is an overall general forum for general talk like that.
SO sick of hearing about new stuff thats not even gonna be out for like half a year or later. I just want to enjoy the nice phone I just got. All this speculation and OOH and AHHs are just preventing people from wanting to get this phone and wait til the next big thing and makes us take a hit on development.
If you keep waiting til the next big thing you might as well wait forever because you can only have the baddest phone on the block for 4 months tops anyway and something better will be out.
Sorry for the rant.
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U mad bro?
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If the Nexus line holds true to its trends, it will probably be a Verizon phone for some months before they release it to other carriers like they have done with T-mobile in the past. I would like to get my hands on a nexus phone for development sakes only. They always have a ton of support and constant updates. But whos to say that phone wont have a fluke bug in it either. every phone that comes out seems to have some bugs that can get ironed out and some that cant.
So far I have experienced zero major bugs with my device and has been the best release of a phone that I have gotten my hands on ever, and ive owned 5 in the last 2 years. I even switched from T-mobile to Sprint for coverage reasons in my area and dont see myself paying $$$ for Verizon and its LTE when it will never be in my area or get the 4G signal indoors. Especially if sprint is announcing the switch over to LTE. Boohoo if my phone wont be compatible, I will have a new upgrade by the time i see any of that in my area.
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U mad bro?
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na dawg, I just dont see how all of this speculation belongs in this forum.
All good points I agree and am in the same boat. I think sprint will get the prime. I find it suspicious they didn't advertise the EG4T. It was almost like they felt bad. We'll know in 2 weeks.
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Here is my unrequest opinion.
It is a hardware race. Will the screen, processor, and battery life be better in the prime/galaxy s2 HD? Yes.
Will some of us go speed a large amount of money as a result? Yes, and I am not excluding myself.
But again, it is just a hardware race. Is there anything out there now, or in a year that will even challenge our phones? No, not a chance. This phone is truly a 2 year phone. I am sure of that.
Do we need a HD screen? No...the screen on this phone is awesome. Actually the hd screen on the prime and galaxy hd will have a pentil matrix...making the pixel density closer to that of our phones then one might think.
Overall...the new exynos will be better. But who the hell is going to notice. I am willing to bet, that besides benchmarks, our phone will do everything just as smooth as the new exynos. Honestly...the samsung created hardware in our phone is that good.
Hopefully, I am right...and not incorrect like I as with the evo3d. I thought the evo3d would be as smooth as any phone...but this phone just made me eat my words. I love it
I'm going to have to fight the urge to get the prime! Going from evo3d to photon to epic is less then two months is just too much already. I think I have a phone problem
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Yup, all valid points. T mobile has announced its gs II release today, it will be on the 10th after google anounced an announcement with samsung that will be on the 11th just yesterday. Just another funny freakin sammy development of many I've noticed recently.
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I've done the same minus the 3d and am now returning my e4gt that I am absolutely in love with. Worst comes to worst i'll order it again.
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I'm also gonna stop posting on this topic because i dont want to piss my e4gt bros off that intend on staying loyal to this awesome phone.
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Samsung is showing off Optimus Prime's long lost brother. I hope Megatron doesn't crash the party.
Just an FYI, this SOC won't be in a Sprint phone till late spring, early summer of next year, so the only 1.5GHz phones we(Sprint) will see are going to be based on the Qualcomm chip for now, which I expect at least 1 or 2 to phones by Christmas(mostly HTC tho)
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Just an FYI, this SOC won't be in a Sprint phone till late spring, early summer of next year, so the only 1.5GHz phones we(Sprint) will see are going to be based on the Qualcomm chip for now, which I expect at least 1 or 2 to phones by Christmas(mostly HTC tho)
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Why do you think that?
Did you get this phone Calkulin?
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So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....
Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.
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So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.
The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.
Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!
IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.
The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...
I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!
I currently have the EVO 3D and like it a lot. However, I really want to have ICS stock and no longer care about the HTC widgets. I also feel like ICS is optimized for Samsung phones.
With that, should I use my upgrade now for the Epic Touch or is there another phone that I should be waiting for? I know the Touch has only been out for a few months and when I look online, I don't see anything else coming out. If the Verizon Nexus Prime was coming to Sprint in a few months, I would absolutely wait for that.
I just don't want to use my upgrade and regret it later. I feel like phones with buttons are going to be outdated in 6 months and I hate having relics.
Thoughts?
You have a good phone, just wait for the lte phones mid next year
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Had evo 3d, switched to epic touch, now thinking about buying another evo 3d (keeping this of course)
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I have been sitting on an upgrade for nearly a year. My thing is, after a phones been out for a month or two, you can pretty much get it on craigslist for the same price you would pay for a upgrade, with no contract. I am holding off until ces in january to decide how i will use mine.
I say keep the 3d. You'll have way more rom's to flash and keep you busy till a LTE phone cames around. Not much development for the touch. Things might change once ice cream sandwich drops, but by then LTE will be the phone to get.
ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS???????????????
smh!!
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ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS???????????????
smh!!
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We aren't in the dev threads. In fact, this is the Q&A thread... Meant for this kind of conversation. If you don't want to read "ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS", then don't read the thread.
As for the phone, I love my SGSII. However, if you got your hands on an Evo 3D and managed to hold on to your upgrade, I'd wait. Come October we will see the Galaxy SIII. And who knows what we will see between now and then. The PS VITA comes out in Feb with a quad core processor... I can't imagine it will take very long to see phones coming out with similar chipsets.
Plus, it's easy enough to kill Sense if you want to. With a proper root/recovery, you could do anything with that device you so choose. You may have to kill the 3d to do a whole lot with it, but would that honestly be a travesty, if you are considering getting rid of the phone in the first place?
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We aren't in the dev threads. In fact, this is the Q&A thread... Meant for this kind of conversation. If you don't want to read "ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS", then don't read the thread.
As for the phone, I love my SGSII. However, if you got your hands on an Evo 3D and managed to hold on to your upgrade, I'd wait. Come October we will see the Galaxy SIII. And who knows what we will see between now and then. The PS VITA comes out in Feb with a quad core processor... I can't imagine it will take very long to see phones coming out with similar chipsets.
Plus, it's easy enough to kill Sense if you want to. With a proper root/recovery, you could do anything with that device you so choose. You may have to kill the 3d to do a whole lot with it, but would that honestly be a travesty, if you are considering getting rid of the phone in the first place?
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so what, there are at least 6 other active threads about the EXACT same thing that searching first would have revealed. People get sick of seeing the same threads over and over again.
Cardinal rule on forums, not just XDA...search before posting!!!
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so what, there are at least 6 other active threads about the EXACT same thing that searching first would have revealed. People get sick of seeing the same threads over and over again.
Cardinal rule on forums, not just XDA...search before posting!!!
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I currently have the EVO 3D and like it a lot. However, I really want to have ICS stock and no longer care about the HTC widgets. I also feel like ICS is optimized for Samsung phones.
With that, should I use my upgrade now for the Epic Touch or is there another phone that I should be waiting for? I know the Touch has only been out for a few months and when I look online, I don't see anything else coming out. If the Verizon Nexus Prime was coming to Sprint in a few months, I would absolutely wait for that.
I just don't want to use my upgrade and regret it later. I feel like phones with buttons are going to be outdated in 6 months and I hate having relics.
Thoughts?
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Without knowing what features of a phone are important to you, it is kind of hard to give an intelligent answer. The only thing you mentioned that you want is ICS and this phone doesn't have it.
What matters more to you; screen size, screen quality, build quality, radio strength, devlopment community, etc. Than maybe someone can give you a meaningful answer.
Super AMOLED Plus is reason enough to get the Epic 4G Touch! The screen is beautiful and untouchable. Seriously it's freaking beautiful!! Do you plan on rooting your 3D? I heard there's more roms and development for that phone over the Epic Touch. All I know is that there will be better phones probably by Summer you'll start hearing real stuff about the Galaxy S3. Phones are just getting better and better. I know there will be phones are next year that will blow my phone out the water but I'm happy with what I have until I can upgrade. The Epic 4G Touch is truly a great phone and will totally satisfy your needs (most likely). It also depends on how you like to use your phone. If you depend on having a strong signal, go with the Motorola Photon. My girl has that phone and she gets signal in spots where Verizon phones get dropped calls and signal. If your into multimedia and watching stuff, the Epic Touch is awesome for that.
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There's a major announcement involving sprint Samsung and Intel January so i would wait
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IMO I like the E4GT is better but I don't think there is enough of a reason to warrant a change. Wait for a bigger badder phone.
I had evo 4g and evo3d,i even bought a 3dtv.dev is bad ass.I cross over to the dark side to match my Samsung galaxy 10.1 tablet,but after having sg2 for a month I haven't look back senses.I love the lightweight,allshare app to my leds tvs,tablets.The bigger,beautiful screen,plus all my evo3d friends admire,and the camera alot better.I have a newborn so its important. Touchwiz has grown on me lol.
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A lot more developer support on the E3D. Don't get me wrong, we have a number of amazing and dedicated devs for this phone, but you have a lot of options with the Evo
I heard the 3d pictures sucked... I had the regular Evo & I was in love with it...it had a cracked screen tho... Only reason I upgraded was because I lost my phone.
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But glad I did I love this phone... When the new photos come out next year I'll just get a2nd line
I got rid of an evo 3d for the epic touch. Its a great upgrade but I did it when it first came out. I'd wait because your phone still holds its own. Remember, the GS2 is from may.
And aosp is no more optimized for Samsung as it is HTC. The gs2 may be faster due to the faster processor and GPU, also lower resolution.
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so what, there are at least 6 other active threads about the EXACT same thing that searching first would have revealed. People get sick of seeing the same threads over and over again.
Cardinal rule on forums, not just XDA...search before posting!!!
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Really, does it really bother you that much?
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Is this a good buy right now this late in the game witch all the quad core phones being announced? thanks because it looks like I will be getting one today
Well I certainly hope so off you are getting it today! I just got mine a few weeks ago, and I am loving it!
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Is this a good buy right now this late in the game witch all the quad core phones being announced? thanks because it looks like I will be getting one today
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If you're already envious on quad core phones only imagine what's available 2 years from now after your contract is up. So I would say just hold off a bit longer and get a more powerful phone with a true HD screen cause the Epic touch will seem like a dinosaur soon.
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If you're already envious on quad core phones only imagine what's available 2 years from now after your contract is up. So I would say just hold off a bit longer and get a more powerful phone with a true HD screen cause the Epic touch will seem like a dinosaur soon.
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Don't ever buy a phone!!! Never! Because as soon as you buy a phone a new and better one is announced or around the corner. If you always worry about whats next whats coming or what not, you will never be happy with your current device. I just picked up the Touch yesterday as I wanted this phone since it was announced
Then I grabbed a Nexus and swore I was going to get the GN.
Then I #cametojesus and realized that the GN wouldnt come to sprint until the end of spring at the earliest but more than likely the end of summer as it will be sprints LTE flagship device. And by then the SGS3 will have real specs out or will be anounced already and I will want that as the GN will be almost a year old by the time sprint gets it. So I realized the truths I said earlier. Stop worry about whats next. If you have to have the best of the best. Spend 500-600 every few months and get a phone shipped from overseas. When quad cores come out I'm sure they will announce phones with atleast 2 more cores. Watch videos, read reviews, go to the store and play with the phone. Then decide, can I live and like this phone until I can afford another one? Then make your decision
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I would wait until summer if your doing your 2yr upgrade.
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Uncle Dan is making the Sprint address at MWC12 tomorrow. The E4GT is a great phone, but its only a day wait to see if he announces anything.
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Uncle Dan is making the Sprint address at MWC12 tomorrow. The E4GT is a great phone, but its only a day wait to see if he announces anything.
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This is great advice right here and what I would do. If no good phones are announced I would go buy a E4GT right away!
I hope this isnt a re-post
I am curious as to what device if you were to switch would you be switching to?Seeing as Sprint is moving in the direction of LTE very fast starting with the launch of its first 2 devices coming this weekend the Galaxy Nexus and the LG Viper, who is ready for the switch?
Evo 4g LTE?- Definitley an interest for me
Galaxy Nex?
LG Viper?
Galaxy S3?
Samsung Note?
iPhone 5?
Just wanted some thoughts thank you
I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.
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I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.
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this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)
Well I'm giving the Gnex a whirl & if I like it, gonna hold onto it till the GS3 comes. I had my eye on the Note too but if it ships with anything less then ICS, I'll pass. I thought about the EVO LTE but any form of Sense is now a deal breaker for me. At least Samsung's TW is not so in your face like Sense is.
Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half. Lte wont hit my region for at least 10-14 months and my WiMax speeds are freaking awesome. So I am very pleased with my ET4G.
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Most likely staying put until SG3 comes out but I'll give each new phone a look. LTE will not factor into my decision as it's unlikely I'll see it in my area for a few years yet.
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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half.
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I wished I had your patience, Lol.
Sprints lte he will not be deployed in my area until the end of the year. So it looks like my next upgrade most likely will be the galaxy s3, Or maybe even a windows 8 phone.
That being said I love this phone so that might not happen for a long time.
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Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
haha
kingdazy said:
this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)
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im only basing this off of my inside info ( which isnt much prob lees than most of you) but it appears we will be supporting wimax in the new roll out of LTE as for what I understand is sprint will now be a tri-band network wimx 2.5ghz LTE 1.9ghz and 800mhz voice ( eventually 800mhz LTE) so I am pretty sure we will still have our support for long after a year or so( dont quote me thou i mean this is Sprint we are talking about lol)
wimax will be supported till at least 2015 which means one two year upgrade cycle. long enough for all of us to enjoy wimax if we have it and for others to enjoy network vision and lte asvit expands.
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My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You know i find myself asking this everytime i have sex.
Jk i never had sex
Forever alone
I will be considering the SGSIII. If it knocks my socks off I'll buy it and sell my E4GT. WiMax is only available in tiny little pockets around San Diego (and its unofficial), so the LTE rollout isn't holding me back as I don't use 4G anyways. If the SGSIII doesn't do it for me I'll be using this phone until 9/15/2013 then see how things look, both from a device and carrier perspective.
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My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You expect to be wowed by a new iPhone? Have you been wowed by Any iPhone?
The iPhone ui/ux has been largely unchanged in years. Android on the other hand...
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BigRitz said:
I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
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On my old phone the best roms and themes came out of the woodwork after all the mainstream devs jumped ship. With so many of these being sold we will likely see some great things by the end of the year. People are still drooling over this phone when they see it. Today I was in a busy lunch spot for guys in suits and while in line then eating as I played with my baby I saw them all stealing glances at her as they glared at their iphones in disgust.
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And for the record I will not be getting rid of this ET4G as I have learned so much from it and this community it now has centimental value to me, that i havent yet had with other phones(go ahead laugh i was while writing it ) but yea the touch has inspired me to learn new things and take my time learning.
For me, its coming down to the GSIII or the next iPhone. The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone, but im sure ill be getting the GSIII.
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The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone... .
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that statement makes no sense to me...
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Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
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Yeah it is so aggravating
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Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
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*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.
It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.
"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"
im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research
I might go with the iPhone
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
exasperating
I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..
The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
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Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.
I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.
This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.
This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.
We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.
If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
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The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
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I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.
But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.
So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)
But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.