Just a question. Im using an HTC Trophy with a vodafone brand(splash shows up every reboot), but is now unlocked and am using it on a different carrier. When the update comes, and pretending that vodafone blocks the update (just pretending), will the update to this phone get blocked too since it is vodafone branded even if im on a different carrier and country?
I think this has been discussed before and from what I remember the updates come from Microsoft so it shouldn't matter.
ayt thanks for that. just asked coz i recently learned that the carriers can actually block the updates:
“We build an update for everyone, and certify them with carriers,” he said. “They’re on a regular cadence as they are on the PC. If a carrier wants to stop an update, they can. But they will get it out on the next release.”
“Updates are cumulative,” he added. “If a carrier doesn’t get their testing done in time, the next push date comes and it goes out then.
“Carriers could in fact block updates to sell you a phone. That can happen,”
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/11/11/the-truth-about-windows-phone-7-software-updates-and-carriers-ability-to-block-those-updates/
slighmd said:
Just a question. Im using an HTC Trophy with a vodafone brand(splash shows up every reboot), but is now unlocked and am using it on a different carrier. When the update comes, and pretending that vodafone blocks the update (just pretending), will the update to this phone get blocked too since it is vodafone branded even if im on a different carrier and country?
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I wonder about that too because I will be using my T-Mobile branded HTC HD7 with AT&T. I figure the update will be related to the carrier's software info existing within the phone.
MartyLK said:
I figure the update will be related to the carrier's software info existing within the phone.
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Exactly what i was thinking. Sent a tweet to @winphonesupport about this, still waiting for a reply
finally got a reply from @WinPhoneSupport:
@SlighMD We currently don't have any information on that right now. ^EB
not even the windows phone support team knows this
Here is the link:
http://windows8beta.com/2011/09/mango-rolling-out-as-early-as-tomorrow
If the operators are starting to launch from 2moro then does that mean unlocked phones will get mango 2moro
dilzo said:
If the operators are starting to launch from 2moro then does that mean unlocked phones will get mango 2moro
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Only time will tell. The thing is, that the rollout won't happen all at once. Word on the streets is that the whole process is estimated to take around 4 to 5 weeks until even the last device (branded or not) will have recieved Mango. That's speculation though.
i have htc mozart
I carrier unlocked my phone ATT Titan on Friday. I tested by installed a T-mobile SIM and i was receiving network signal on the T-mobile network. However, I'm not receiving the 8107 update. Is this not the same as having a debranded phone? I debranded my Samsung Focus and the update followed soon after. Can someone please shed some light on this for me? Thanks
wheelerk said:
I carrier unlocked my phone ATT Titan on Friday. I tested by installed a T-mobile SIM and i was receiving network signal on the T-mobile network. However, I'm not receiving the 8107 update. Is this not the same as having a debranded phone? I debranded my Samsung Focus and the update followed soon after. Can someone please shed some light on this for me? Thanks
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AT & T has not released the update.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423665
Understood. But that's the reason for having it unlocked. My focus is a AT&T, and it got the update when I debranded it.
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This is a development section, not Q&A. Also we have a HTC Titan forum, please post device specific posts there
so every other Lumia in the world has tango already available but 900 US version (rm-808) whats up with that?
Navifirm shows the Tango firmware for the 710 already, the only lumia without the firmware available is the US Lumia 900
Actually it's the North American version with this problem, as Rogers in Canada has no updates either. You can blame the carriers for this , as they requested the 'special' features and locks to be installed. This makes them very unique and not easily upgradeable as the carriers have to make sure their BS software and locks stay in place.
I would kill to be able to replace the startup carrier logo on boot.
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so every other Lumia in the world has tango already available but 900 US version (rm-808) whats up with that?
Navifirm shows the Tango firmware for the 710 already, the only lumia without the firmware available is the US Lumia 900
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And one thing to add, you guys are even more ahead then us in Canada. We still don't have the update that was released 2 weeks ago for the purple screen and other minor fixes...
maybe they want to push out a special update to cure all know existing bugs with the tango update together for you all?
darren486 said:
maybe they want to push out a special update to cure all know existing bugs with the tango update together for you all?
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I certainly hope so
darren486 said:
maybe they want to push out a special update to cure all know existing bugs with the tango update together for you all?
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Me don't think so. Tango was signed off and rolled out to carriers many weeks ago. Since then, the carriers have been 'testing'. Any hope of a lot of bugs fixes, is really a dream...though not impossible...because they may be able to add a supplement file to the update. But, no carrier can crack the Tango base code to fix anything....
Anyway, Tango is not the next great hope. Anyone hoping for more that a basic change...like MMS ....should really contact me privately...I have some swamp land for sale.
As many of you know, AT&T and Rogers Lumia 900s arent getting the tango update.
Someone in the general windows phone thread posted the generic OS updates for tango in cab forms. Is it possible to just push these cab files to the 900? (Also which files to download?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27960331&postcount=929
I'm not sure I pushed the right languages (I haven't developer unlocked my Lumia to check) but I pushed
Code:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.pks_113460c78ac6233e3bb776ceddb6ac94e98c4221.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.dpi_262.pks_4dbf7302a7b3da01eeafbcfbf1b9b75e6f6de15e.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.lang_0407.pks_e1a132dbad341e61c902f697bbde9d2ebb98a08f.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.lang_0409.pks_3e940c840ee4815422610bb6da8f28ac327767cc.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.lang_040c.pks_7cbfbdf414fcea12530080f94cb7c29fea74c54a.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.lang_0410.pks_926fdca3ca7df7ac163d22b15ab18a716eef0042.cab
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/05/diff-7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98-armv7-retail-microsoft.lang_0c0a.pks_09cab7985d025414c9923461e0a0729d95ec6737.cab
and it works fine.
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As many of you know, AT&T and Rogers Lumia 900s arent getting the tango update.
Someone in the general windows phone thread posted the generic OS updates for tango in cab forms. Is it possible to just push these cab files to the 900? (Also which files to download?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27960331&postcount=929
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Where is your proof for this statement?
Well we aren't getting the tango update Yet*. But we will get it.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
It would be amazing if we can push this update to our 900s but I thought only the 800 and 710 roms are out.
This is still better than waiting on carriers to release the updates. Heck rogers didn't release the purple screen fix yet!!
I've been reading on other forums and some people have been saying that AT&T and Rogers are completely skipping tango and waiting to go directly to 7.8.
Speaking of the purple screen issue, is there an AT&T Cab?
Rogers is saying they have an update for the 900s coming at the end of July. I would like to believe that it is the 7.8 update, however, because Rogers hasn't posted the purple screen fix, or allowed the network setup app to be available in Canada, i have my doubts they would be so proactive.They may have been a 90 day exclusivity contract for Canada in there that they are using to block the network setup app from allowing full porting to another carrier, which would end about the middle of July. I can't think of a good reason for them to sit on the screen issue fix except maybe that they don't want Nokia to succeed. The 800 seems to be doing well and is receiving lots of attention and updates,(which is not Rogers). Why we have such a huge delay is mystifying, and counterproductive to Nokia/MS big Lumia push.
I am working with SuperSport on getting 8112 and the Tango update on the Rogers Lumia 900. Will keep everyone posted.
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Rogers is saying they have an update for the 900s coming at the end of July. I would like to believe that it is the 7.8 update, however, because Rogers hasn't posted the purple screen fix, or allowed the network setup app to be available in Canada, i have my doubts they would be so proactive.They may have been a 90 day exclusivity contract for Canada in there that they are using to block the network setup app from allowing full porting to another carrier, which would end about the middle of July. I can't think of a good reason for them to sit on the screen issue fix except maybe that they don't want Nokia to succeed. The 800 seems to be doing well and is receiving lots of attention and updates,(which is not Rogers). Why we have such a huge delay is mystifying, and counterproductive to Nokia/MS big Lumia push.
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microsoft said 7.8 will be available sometime after 8.0, at the dev summit. So its probably tango to hold us off.
So I was at work today and my Rogers 900 informed me of an available update. When I got home I plugged it in and Zune informed me that 8112 was available. Ran the update and it installed fine.
BUT THEN
Zune procedded to download and start to install 8773 (7.10.8773.98 to be precise). It's still going right now but it appears that I have been Tangoed out of nowhere.
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So I was at work today and my Rogers 900 informed me of an available update. When I got home I plugged it in and Zune informed me that 8112 was available. Ran the update and it installed fine.
BUT THEN
Zune procedded to download and start to install 8773 (7.10.8773.98 to be precise). It's still going right now but it appears that I have been Tangoed out of nowhere.
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Holy smokes. Mine did not tell me there was an update. Oh well I'm working on it.
xsever said:
Holy smokes. Mine did not tell me there was an update. Oh well I'm working on it.
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And it's done.
OS Version now reads 7.10.8773.98. Everything else is still the same.
Any quick and/or obvious way to test this is trully Tango?
WTF...
I'm dying for Tango on my Rogers... Unfortunately I just got a Raspberry Pi today and my Nokia USB cable it tied up powering my Pi while I compile a kernel...
I'll test this ASAP!
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I just checked, Rogers is NOT pushing tango to my 900
Zhariak said:
WTF...
I'm dying for Tango on my Rogers... Unfortunately I just got a Raspberry Pi today and my Nokia USB cable it tied up powering my Pi while I compile a kernel...
I'll test this ASAP!
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I just checked, Rogers is NOT pushing tango to my 900
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I just finished installing 8112 and then Tango thanks to SuperSport over here.
Now I have a Rogers Lumia 900 running Tango!
Still need the purple screen fix!!!
xsever said:
I just finished installing 8112 and then Tango thanks to SuperSport over here.
Now I have a Rogers Lumia 900 running Tango!
Still need the purple screen fix!!!
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I'm hoping to install it through zune without hacks... I'm just wondering if the guy above is correct in that Rogers is rolling it out!
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I'm hoping to install it through zune without hacks... I'm just wondering if the guy above is correct in that Rogers is rolling it out!
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Here's two screenshots. One from Zune during the update and one after. Can't really post a screenshot of the about screen itself.
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Here's two screenshots. One from Zune during the update and one after. Can't really post a screenshot of the about screen itself.
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Thanks! So just to confirm, you have a Rogers phone, that is locked to Rogers with no modifications? And you just hooked it up to Zune and it reported an update?
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Thanks! So just to confirm, you have a Rogers phone, that is locked to Rogers with no modifications? And you just hooked it up to Zune and it reported an update?
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Yup normal Lumia 900 bought at a Rogers store (in Toronto if it matters) with no modification of any sort. Had the "Use cell data to check for updates" option turned on and got the notification at work. Plugged it into my PC and Zune began to do two updates. First one to 8112 and then the second one to 8773.
Still trying to figure out a way to verify this is in fact Tango.
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Yup normal Lumia 900 bought at a Rogers store (in Toronto if it matters) with no modification of any sort. Had the "Use cell data to check for updates" option turned on and got the notification at work. Plugged it into my PC and Zune began to do two updates. First one to 8112 and then the second one to 8773.
Still trying to figure out a way to verify this is in fact Tango.
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Very weird but similar as to how some rogers customers see the new camera extras app in the marketplace and other customers don't!
Just another confirmation for a Rogers 900. On tango now but still im still waiting for the purple screen fix. In the meantime... medium brightness it is.