[Q] Installing CWM from Rom Manager - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm completely new to rooting and still have a lot to learn.
Today I wanted to check out ROM Manager to search for ROMs - mostly just to try it. Since Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 runs buttery smooth on my DZ I'm not really looking for another ROM at the moment. It runs much faster than Virtuous Unity 2.37 and Virtuous Doubleshot 1.1.6b which I tried out initially.
I used this guide to root my phone after I downgraded it using Setherio's excellent guide and thought I had CWM installed. However, ROM Manager prompts me to install CWM. I double checked the rooting guide and see that it mentions Clockwork Recovery and not ClockworkMod. Are these two not the same thing?
My Clockwork Recovery version is 3.0.2.4 and it works just fine. Will I override this when installing CWM from ROM Manager?
I don't want to break anything now that I managed to get rid of most of the annoying bugs in the official HTC release.

Clockwork and Clockworkmod are the same.
There is a bug in Rom manager in that it doesn't actually look at the recovery partition, it just reports you as having what ever recovery it last flashed.
The rooting instructions does flash recovery, but Rom Manager doesn't realise. There is no harm in overwriting it.
Stick with 3.0.2.4 though, 5.0.x.x is still buggy as hell at the moment for the vision.
-Nipqer

whpsnp said:
I'm completely new to rooting and still have a lot to learn.
Today I wanted to check out ROM Manager to search for ROMs - mostly just to try it. Since Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 runs buttery smooth on my DZ I'm not really looking for another ROM at the moment. It runs much faster than Virtuous Unity 2.37 and Virtuous Doubleshot 1.1.6b which I tried out initially.
I used this guide to root my phone after I downgraded it using Setherio's excellent guide and thought I had CWM installed. However, ROM Manager prompts me to install CWM. I double checked the rooting guide and see that it mentions Clockwork Recovery and not ClockworkMod. Are these two not the same thing?
My Clockwork Recovery version is 3.0.2.4 and it works just fine. Will I override this when installing CWM from ROM Manager?
I don't want to break anything now that I managed to get rid of most of the annoying bugs in the official HTC release.
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Clockwork Recovery and ClockworkMod are the same thing (as is CWM, which is often ised as well).
I'd suggest just flashing the most recent CWM (v3.0.2.4, I think is the latest) via ROM Manager to shut up ROM Manager, it shouldn't hurt anything.
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Thank you both for your answers
I'll try reinstalling CWM from ROM Manager when I'm home from work tonight.

whpsnp said:
Thank you both for your answers
I'll try reinstalling CWM from ROM Manager when I'm home from work tonight.
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Don't install v5, its been buggy as hell and he just tonight posted a possible fix but the jury is still out, install v3.0.2.4 untill v5 is known to work.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Don't install v5, its been buggy as hell and he just tonight posted a possible fix but the jury is still out, install v3.0.2.4 untill v5 is known to work.
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Thank you, I took that from Nipqer's post as well. Just came over the EXT4 Recovery thread. Might be I should try that out.
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You should check out 4EXT Recovery. It's awesome. I've been using it for two days now and I'm not turning back. It has many additional options, though it's built from CWM. It's the best of ClockworkMod and more.
If you want some more info on it take a look at this thread.
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on gingerbread and cant go back

so im stuck on gingerbread, and can only use my backup with is a gingerbread one, when i reload cwm 2.5.x through fastboot its doesnt work just loas the rom and never boots past the htc screen. being stuck on gingerbread aint the worst but i always like to move around. any ideas?
try flashing the recovery from rom manager, this will install the 2.5 recovery. fastboot flash will only work if you have the eng h-boot, radio s-off won't do.
yeah got the eng h-boot
and im geting into 2.5, and it says it loads but no dice.
doing the install through rom manager just force closes on gingerbread for me.
fetusbeats said:
yeah got the eng h-boot
and im geting into 2.5, and it says it loads but no dice.
doing the install through rom manager just force closes on gingerbread for me.
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You can't flash back to CM6 via the ROM Manager. You need to flash CWR v2 via the ROM manager, boot into recovery and manually flash your CM6 backup. And be sure to do a full wipe of everything before flashing
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OriginalGabriel said:
You can't flash back to CM6 via the ROM Manager. You need to flash CWR v2 via the ROM manager, boot into recovery and manually flash your CM6 backup. And be sure to do a full wipe of everything before flashing
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Yeah, im flashing from recovery. i dont have a 2.2 backup just gingerbread. im not installing from rom manager. yeah so im trying to install a rom as i dont have a backup. i boot into CWM 2.x and it says all is loaded but sticks on htc screen. ive wiped everything a few times. even tried wiping in cwm 3 and then fastboot flashing 2.5 and trying to install rom there. no dice.
fetusbeats said:
Yeah, im flashing from recovery. i dont have a 2.2 backup just gingerbread. im not installing from rom manager. yeah so im trying to install a rom as i dont have a backup. i boot into CWM 2.x and it says all is loaded but sticks on htc screen. ive wiped everything a few times. even tried wiping in cwm 3 and then fastboot flashing 2.5 and trying to install rom there. no dice.
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To clarify, you're trying to flash CM6 back and you currently have CM7?
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well im actually using the gingervillian 1.4, but previously was using cm6. and alas i ****ed up and didnt do backup previously.
I had cm7 but went back to cm6.1.0 on my g1 but returning it to stock Android 1.0 and then rooting from the beginning, the phone is a little faster now after formatting the sdcard
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fetusbeats said:
well im actually using the gingervillian 1.4, but previously was using cm6. and alas i ****ed up and didnt do backup previously.
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I'm not sure what you're asking then ... what are you trying to flash?
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OP are you gfree? U might b able to just unroot / flash the OTW/pcimg10
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yeah didnt use gfree, got my s-ff the hard way on day one. but i have flashed the pc10img after hex editing before so i think i might try once i mull the problem some more.
fetusbeats said:
yeah didnt use gfree, got my s-ff the hard way on day one. but i have flashed the pc10img after hex editing before so i think i might try once i mull the problem some more.
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You should still go the gfree route, they found the initial hack could be overrided; check the Wiki here for a guide to use gfree for those of us that rooted from the get go.
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fetusbeats said:
well im actually using the gingervillian 1.4, but previously was using cm6. and alas i ****ed up and didnt do backup previously.
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Okay, I think I got it. You flashed Gingervillan without backing up your stock ROM?
Here are links to the pre and post OTA stock ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#ROMs
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If you want to flash a non-GB ROM, you need the CWM2 (which is what you did). It sounds like after you put this recovery back though, you tried to flash a GB backup? This won't work (since anything GB requires CWM3).
If you have the CWM2 recovery, just go download any Froyo-based ROM you want to use, place the zip on you SD card, boot into recovery, and apply the zip.
nah just tried to flash a 2.2 rom through cwm2.5 no backup will only flash gb backup through 3.0.0.5

New Inc Recovery [ v3.0.0.5]?

Did anyone flash the new recovery version in rom manager?
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I did. Not sure about changes in the coding but the new UI is nice.
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I heard it is mainly for 2.3 ROMs and such, is that true? I'm on Magnolia which is 2.2, would I run into any issues?
weird.. i flashed the new recovery through rom manager then booted into recovery but still had 2.5 on there..
Flashed it this afternoon, using CM nightly #32. Using ROM manager to backup etc., would give me errors when it got to recovery. Some error about the sd card mounting I think. It would work fine booting to recovery, just not using ROM manager. Think the nightly update tonight might address the issue. Had to flash back to an earlier recovery to use ROM manager.
Could not install a new rom with it.
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I flashed slayers test kernel with it and it seemed to work fine. Have not tried to run a back up yet.
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Is there a zip to install this new recovery instead of using rom manager? I always remove rom manager from CM7.
what is the new UI and why cant i boot into it? im on cm7.
converge12 said:
what is the new UI and why cant i boot into it? im on cm7.
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its orange now
You can get it from Koush's website
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
anyone have a changelog?
Drewsipher said:
anyone have a changelog?
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It requires some sort of new update script, we use the donut update script so koush is pushing us towards the future with this recovery, it works with any kernel because of it being koush's update script. Some roms might work, ask your favorite developer if it is compatable
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Darnit! Flashed it and now I can't install any font packs anymore. I guess it has something to do with the update script. Going back to a previous version if I can figure out how.
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superchilpil said:
It requires some sort of new update script, we use the donut update script so koush is pushing us towards the future with this recovery, it works with any kernel because of it being koush's update script. Some roms might work, ask your favorite developer if it is compatable
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well... my I'm running cm7 so I knew I'd be well done in his hands... Multi-touch not working?
anyone with an idea as to why i cant boot into it?
converge12 said:
anyone with an idea as to why i cant boot into it?
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I can't either
Running CM 7 nightly #25. Flashed the 3.0.5 and I couldn't boot into Recovery. Just reverted to 2.5.1.2, guess we'll have to wait until something gets patched up in CM.
Worked for me. I like the look.
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oh man, i can no longer access recovery. dayum...
i guess i should post some details: updated from 2.7.1.? (2 or 3, whatever) to 3.0.0.5 via free version of rom manager. just happened to have my stock rom loaded at the time.
edit: thx everyone. downloading the zip and reinstalling got me back up and running. yay! thx! i am disappoined, though, that md5 operations still take 15-20 minutes. i was hoping that would be fixed in this release.

Gingerbread Downgrade

Hello all,
I installed OMFGB 1.1. 13 Rom about 3rd weeks ago, radio is 2.15. 0.0. 7.8, Android version is 2.3. 2, CWM version is 3.0. 0.5.
Any other rom i've tried to install will install, and but after reboot, and I get so many FCs that I'm forced to recover to my OMFGB backup. Roms I've tried: CM7 RC1&2, Skyraider Athena, Lithium NG, IncrROM, Virtuous, Jager.
I am definitely a noob at all this so maybe i've missed something obvious. I used to try Roms weekly b4 OMFGB, and now it seems like I'll be stuck there forever
If anyone has any suggestions or explanations as to why I'm experiencing this, I'd apprecite any info.
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jakmonkey said:
I used to try Roms weekly b4 OMFGB, and now it seems like I'll be stuck there forever
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lol.
try wiping all userdata (aka a full wipe: data, cache, sd-ext)
jakmonkey said:
Hello all,
I installed OMFGB 1.1. 13 Rom about 3rd weeks ago, radio is 2.15. 0.0. 7.8, Android version is 2.3. 2, CWM version is 3.0. 0.5.
Any other rom i've tried to install will install, and but after reboot, and I get so many FCs that I'm forced to recover to my OMFGB backup. Roms I've tried: CM7 RC1&2, Skyraider Athena, Lithium NG, IncrROM, Virtuous, Jager.
I am definitely a noob at all this so maybe i've missed something obvious. I used to try Roms weekly b4 OMFGB, and now it seems like I'll be stuck there forever
If anyone has any suggestions or explanations as to why I'm experiencing this, I'd apprecite any info.
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You are using 3.0.0.5, there is a known bug with that version and it not wiping correctly. Upgrade to 3.0.0.8 and wipe and then flash. Your problems will be fixed.
Anytime you have a question like this, please post it in the appropriate forums also, this is the development forum.
if you still cant flash roms after wiping data you could always find the latest RUU (or is ir RRU file and go back to 2.2 stock, then you would just have to run unrevoked to root and install recovery with rom manager
FOLLOWING THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL ERASE ALL USER DATA AND BRING YOUR PHONE BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS WHEN YOU FIRST BOOTED
just remember, if anything goes wrong i didn't do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969973
I will post future questions like this over in a more appropriate forum, my apologies.
I've checked the market, and there is only 3.0. 5, no 3.0. 8 as someone suggested. Am I missing something?
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It's in Rom manager at the bottom under all cwm recoveries
jakmonkey said:
I will post future questions like this over in a more appropriate forum, my apologies.
I've checked the market, and there is only 3.0. 5, no 3.0. 8 as someone suggested. Am I missing something?
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Don't go into the market, go into rom manager, go all the way to the bottom to "All ClockWork Recoveries" and pick 3.0.0.8 from there.
Also, use this to wipe everything, including system. Do this once or twice, then flash the rom of your choice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989474

CM7.1 RC Vs. CM7.1

Anyone know if there is a huge difference between the release candidate version of CM7.1 and the stable version?
I have the RC installed and rom manager keeps telling me to update to the stable version.
However after applying the new version and rebooting, my phone just reboots back into the RC version.
So I'm just wondering if the stable version is so vastly different that i'm going to want to figure the problem out.
Thanks
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Yes some big updates including 2.3.7!
Man, I need to figure out how to get this working then.
Stop using rom manager and cwm. Use amon RA recovery. There's a link in the thread below.
Then you can download cm7 manually and flash it manually. Rc1 was a few months ago so there are some major changes
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
Crossrocker said:
Stop using rom manager and cwm. Use amon RA recovery. There's a link in the thread below.
Then you can download cm7 manually and flash it manually. Rc1 was a few months ago so there are some major changes
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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+1 I used CWM for the longest time because of the fact that ROM Manager would flash it for me and flash the ROM for me. Then I actually went in and played around with the two recoveries and I like Amon Ra better. The only real advantage that I see CWM having is that it is a tad bit more convenient seeing as that it integrates with ROM Manager. Other than that it serves no other real purpose.
+1 for Amon's RA. Hopefully they can fix the front camera video chat issues (Tango, skype, etc) soon.

backup rom

Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers
Use 4ext recovery. It's much better than CWM. It doesn't support as many phones as CWM, but the DHD is one of the few it does. Also any backups you've made with CWM are fully compatible with 4ext. You can get the donation 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store which has a ton of other features apart from backing up and restoring. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for the app, you can do everything directly in recovery too. The app is just a frontend to make it easier. Hardly anyone uses CWM + ROM Manager for the DHD anymore because this is better.
Instructions -
1) Go to www.4ext.net
2) Download 4ext Recovery Updater from there (free).
3) Run app and flash 4ext Touch Recovery from it. That's all. You can also just get the paid 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store (worth it bigtime) and flash recovery from there instead of going to the website and doing all that I said above.
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petrose said:
Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers
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I Use 4EXT Recovery Updater And 4EXT Recovery Control. Its Really Good And User-friendly.
+1 for 4ext.
I never use rom manager - I've heard of too many problems
I use 4ext and I really like it. You may also try TWRP, which is also a touch recovery. However, it's a flashable zip so it may be easier for you to install compared the 4ext recovery updater package (probably not much, I'm just used to flashing a lot of ROMs).
I don't think TWRP is available for DHD, is it?
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TWRP is available for DHD. I used it for awhile on my Inspire 4G, and it also works for DHD. However, I have had problems installing inspiremod for my Inspire 4G with it. It has Goomanager, which is nice. I use 4ext now though.
Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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sashank said:
Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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Yes, through Goomanager.
dude, 4ext is the best and there is alot of support around recent roms and earlier also. go for it

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