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Ice Cream Sandwich is Coming..COULD BE FOR DEFY?

In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
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http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!

We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.

confusedfella said:
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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no way man! telus just released a version of the defy a couple of months ago.we've got at least two more years of love coming!

i am hoping as well... but here in indonesia, not even gingerbread

There's absolutely no point in getting excited till there's even confirmation of getting Gingerbread.

Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.

SWAT AXEL said:
In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
Source:
http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont expect an official version of ice cream for my defy, Just hope Quarx or some other developer would be able to port i.. I'm sure my defy would be compatible for ice cream as well..

Cederic said:
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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Man you said the right situation in motorola process , BUT even if they didn't release it for defy , they might unlock the bootloader, like samsung galaxy S2.
tAKE lOOK Here:
Samsung Sends Free Galaxy S2 To Hackers For Inspiration
According to the company, it has already sent a free Galaxy S2 to the CyanogenMod team as part of the plan.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/13/samsung-sends-free-galaxy-s2-hackers-inspiration/#8
so i hope we can wait for something cool later time.

It's still possible, when CyanogenMod 8 comes...

Maybe this?
Ok so maybe Motorola will launch a new Defy. This time more powerful. So we will buy it and have that with running Android 4 and this one as an old phone with CM version of the new Android tweaked for it.
I personally use 2 phones. Primary smartphone Defy and secondly a phone only Nokia (no camera, radio, internet). But i would like using 2 smartphones. Actually that is the future. So in my case i can wait for a Defy2 and than keep this as well
Keep in mind that a smartphone's life is somewhere between 2-4 years. Battery/hardware and software wise . But who knows the Defy can prove even more resistant ....

SWAT AXEL said:
This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release!
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The current fragmentation issue has nothing to do with Tablet and Handset form factors. I understood fragmentation is about manufacturers putting too much layers on top of OS to make their own version of Android i.e. Sense, TouchWhiz, Motorla, and so on.
User experience is a science, now imagine how much damage these manufacturers do to an OS that no one would want to learn how to use them. That is why many people would want to use handsets from the same manufacturer. Android introduced a new market and after few years everyone involved realising the cons and pros of it as no one had the experience working in such market model before.
My prediction is... Most manufacturers will give up putting their own layers for three main reasons:
1. Manufactures eventually can't catch up with the progress of Android's development and it would become a complex and expensive process to have.
2. The cost of hardware will significantly will be reduced, that means smaller manufactures giving stock Android start stealing market from the big boys.
3. Future Android versions would become rich in user experience that the cost of putting layers on top of already a rich interface is no longer justifiable.

and hopefully with this, release of OS will be much faster due to the more vanilla usage of Android instead of each company spending time and money on 'fragmenting' the OS....and devs like the MIUI and CM guys (plus all the other solo devs) can start porting it over much faster and easier.....and leave the fragmenting and customising to the community!

true
but if each developer releasing their own os like miui and cmd and etc you will never have stability in the os.
thats why i always stick to the official os.
((consider Camera issues and AGps fixes plus notworking parts in os properly))

Ice Cream Sandwich will be released this October/November.. There's even a Nexus S shipped on EBay which has ICS!!!!! Here it is!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pb6IyFvfg&feature=player_embedded
I'm really hoping to see it on Motorola Defy!!
Btw I noticed that all Android versions have a codename based on deserts..
Cupcake 1.5
Donut 1.6
Eclair (a cake) 2.1
Froyo (frozen yogurt) 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Honeycomb 3.0
Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4/4.0
lol

I think there will be a custom rom, but i don´t think we get it official.
Sorry for my bad English!
Julian

I don't think T-Mobile US Defy owners will ever see an official Gingerbread update, or anyone else for that matter.
Why would Motorola put one out when Defy+ is here? Defy team was moved to working on Defy+ long ago, that's why we still have a buggy official Froyo. They're just not working on Defy any longer.

They re-released the Defy calling it a Defy+ for the sake of a Gingerbread update. What makes you think they wont do the same for ICS. And ofcourse the Defy wont even get Gingerbread forget ICS.
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there is no question of getting official GB update in future. But I m sure there will be CM8 for defy

Anyway, CM8 sounds way better than a crappy ICS released by Motorola .

cannot w8 4 the ICS . even if our defy will not get an ICS update i'll buy a new phone

[Q] Android 4.0 ICS?

well sony said all their smartphones released in 2011, will be getting ICS 4.0 (including the xperia play) but ive read somewhere that ICS is only compatible with phones with dual-core processers blah blah, but could the xperia play be upto to running it?

AwaisKhan said:
well sony said all their smartphones released in 2011, will be getting ICS 4.0 (including the xperia play) but ive read somewhere that ICS is only compatible with phones with dual-core processers blah blah, but could the xperia play be upto to running it?
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Incorrect, All phones with Gingerbread computability can run ICS. Also EVEN IF "Sony Ericsson" DOES NOT upgrade us to ICS, once the source is released for ICS, custom ROMS will start appearing on the community within days, possibly hours.

oh right, YAY!!!

Yeah CyanogenMod is very popular with customRoms.The last version of CyanogenMod is CyanogenMod 7.1 which rapresents Android 2.3.7.When Android 4.0 ICS is launched keep searching for CyanogenMod 9(Android 4.0)xperia Play.Pls reply if I helped.Gd luck.
P.s.It s a bit difficuilt do install it.

I don't think I'll ever unlock my bootloader. I just don't feel the need to as I really love the stock launcher and the games I play don't require overclocking. So I put my faith in SE for delivering ICS to our devices as they have said they will. Flashing it with flashtool as soon as it comes out!

Faith alone won't sustain us anymore...

Lol, the rumours are ICS will be released january/march according to an employee

i wonder if theres an option to turn off the soft buttons lol they would be kinda pointless with the hardware buttons on the play

mixalot2008 said:
i wonder if theres an option to turn off the soft buttons lol they would be kinda pointless with the hardware buttons on the play
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I have it installed on Xperia X8
and I can confirm theres an option to disable them.

Xperia S Jelly Bean announcement expected this month!

Is it ???
http://www.androidcentral.com/xperia-s-jelly-bean-announcement-expected-month

But today it seems an announcement may be near
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So, this is no new news, the article is just saying an announcement from Sony for the Xperia S 4.1 is near.
Don't read Android Central articles, just follow the Xperia Twitter and Xperia Blog posts directly.

They're supposed to announce the timeline for the 2012 devices in mid-December but JB is not coming until February at least from what I've read.
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Thanks for advise guys !!!

So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.

skylinrcr01 said:
So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.
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It's not even a different processor

MrBelter said:
It's not even a different processor
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The same processor, but overclocked!

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
The same processor, but overclocked!
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Oh cool. The more you know :good:

so this is an announcement that they will have an announcement?

Inception badadum tssss

Calm down, boys, we all very well know that official Jellybean won't be on our phones that fast. It's Sony, so we have to wait(thanks to CM, no more. After CM I see little reason to use stock). We saw news about early november/late october, now it's december, after december it will be january, and some site will yell OMG EXPARIA S IZ OPTODET TO JILLYBEAM!!!!111111
No, it won't happen before the time Sony decided. They won't just say "Hey guys, let's make a surprise" and release JB.

Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!

kr1st0f1 said:
Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!
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If you don't care about FM radio and 1080p video recording,you can choose CM10.

among regagae
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.

They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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quiwoon said:
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.
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So like middle of February, about two months away. Not too long of a wait at all.

donjamal said:
They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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sinple said:
Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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donjamal said:
Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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Get a Nexus.. I too am sick of Sony and their lack of updates. I had an Arc S, and it was OK, I have an Xperia S and it's terrible, FAR too many software faults, most of which you mention.
I won't make the mistake of buying Xperia again.

Im just waiting for an Sony Nexus. I dont know if it will come out one day.. If not..
Another Sony :cyclops:

JB 4.3 might appear on XS

Hello guys! I was wondering today why that annocement hasnt been considered here on Xperia S forum, while it makes such an impression on Xperia Z forum. Its all because of http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/#more-9209 . It clearly says: "We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.". Guys i got used to it that you owners of XS should actually be full of hope and pleasure hearing such words, but unfortunately you always blame on news that type, so please make exception this time and try NOT to blame on me for sharing this great news (yea, ive been here around for year with my lovely xperia s but i switched to xperia z a time ago)

Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3

Yakandu said:
Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3
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From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes

What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them

devilakos said:
What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them
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I luv the way people here beg for updates and the same time call them useless. Ok, we're waiting for the next (surely) positive reception LOLA

Kondzioz said:
From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes
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The "might" part of your post is just pure speculation unlikely to happen. Qualcomm EOL Snapdragon S3 chips.
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Dudes, DON'T, just DON'T.
We all know that our device will only get a JB Bug Fix Update and that's it, no more official updates.
Please, close this thread before some "I HATE YOU SONY", "I'M GOING BUY A NEXUS" appears.
Anyway, I'm going to buy a Honami at the end of the year, so I don't care.

x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.

A smooth non buggy 4.1.2 is perfect enough for me.
Its already smooth, Now just fix the bugs.

I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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denslife16 said:
I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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xsp has already confirmed by sony.
for xs. don't hope too much.

*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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UchihaDareNial said:
*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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Haha, I guess we can continue to dream on until the day Sony confirms the doomday of Xperia Ion/S/Acro S!
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One reason some old devices had so much development was the fact all the source code was available. Now Qualcom is unlikely to give the source code to the dev community but Sony may be able to so this could come to the S3 chip devices. Yes I am being optimistic but it could happen and would help Sony establish itself in the device world. I just wish they would focus on less devices and create some really good phones with a longer life span. I don't get the concept of build 12 devices every year. It seems you could build four and cut more cost in parts and save a ton in development cost.

cikomiko said:
x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.
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Yea, Ive got the same situation in my mind as I was an owner of x10. Most of you guys dunno that x10 was running 1.6 then 2.1, then was said to be by SONY not efficient to run properly 2.2, but then they realised that it can run 2.3 smoothly- it was highly unexpected by anyone. Also x10 as i remember at first wasnt capable of using multitouch, but SONY also here surprised us and came up with multitouch few months after x10's release. I would say that most companies cannot afford to update every portfolio smartphone thay have with every android update i mean 4.0.X->4.1.X->4.2.X->4.3.X, but some of them are able to skip minor updays only for major one and so they do.
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HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it

switzerland92 said:
HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it
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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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I'm guessing this thread has really said what 's got to say and those that have mentioned OpenGL ES 3.0 have really put the nails in the coffin on Android 4.3
Isn't there a thread in the general section dispelling even Android 4.2 updates from Sony for the XPERIA LT26i?
If Sony do a bang up job of getting this puppy to fly on Android 4.1.2, what more could we expect of a Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 chipset anyway.
And at the end of the day when the sun sets on the XPERIA S we have a bevy of excellent XDA developers that'll make sure the wheels don't fall off our trolley that is the XPERIA LT26i.
My XPERIA X10i (64GB MicroSD, 1.15GHz CPU, 1800mAh battery) is testament to that.

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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.

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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.
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How is it Sony's fault Qualcomm didn't provide the CPU drivers? Xperia S is the first flagship of the ships launched early January. I know you have the urge that you must put the blame on someone, but do it correctly. This thread is about the direction and future of Xperia S and not "let's try to pinpoint and destroy Sony".
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[Rumor] Android 4.4 (Kit Kat ) for old devices !

Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896

Unfortunately, not likely that older phones will get it, New but even mid and low-end phones might get it for sure.
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stinky dentist said:
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
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I think 4.4 will just run good on low-end devices and it might be easier to port to those devices. But I'd wager quite a lot that Sony isn't going to bother with our phone anymore, 18 months have passed and they have dozens of other devices to support.

No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.

yUlekk said:
No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs

No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085

I don't really think there would be anymore support or anything as such for SXS.. SONY has and completely will abandon SXS.. Already as Envious said SXZ is also old now and will soon be obsolete in another year.. Tech keeps on moving guys, everything gets old.. U just gotta live with it..
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Wow.. That's good to hear.. I thought letama was gonna continue building 4.3.. Good to hear u r gonna takeover his project.. :good:
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No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
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Since Galaxy Nexus even is abandoned, then Why are there rumors in the first place.. Its so confirmed that they themselves have said its OLD and crossed 18 months.. So i guess old in their words mean basic low end budget devices.. Its like in "Pink Panther 2" where the HERO does both Good Cop Bad Cop Routine all by himself.. :silly: And still we gotta accept it..!!! Don't get any hopes up YET guys..

I dont think any old device will get 4.4 unless its a part of some new licence
I guess its good for old devices to run newer android , 4.3 is extremely smooth compared to 4.2 and 4.1 (on xs)
Speaking of which
The first thing im trying to fix with letamas 4.3 build is the HDMI and the graphics crashes and errors
Just waiting for source code
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Envious_Data said:
Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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Pandemic said:
@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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realy maybe i need to research more often
Xperia s was supose to get 4.2.2 , why i dony think any old xperia is going to be updated by sony
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i want kitkat its will make my xperia s faster,smoother,effecient and best of all battery life i want it.can anybody get me a kitkat bar :laugh:

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
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@RaymanFX This is the source to 4.4 already.. I hope this helps.. Thanks to @fundoozzz.. :good:

Not gonna happen guys. Xperia S is pretty much EOL. I will be getting my new phone tomorrow. So I'm ready to leave this place

4.4 Will not be given by sony as the phone is now classed as "discontinued" and is a archived sony phone. I don't know if the end of support for updates has been done yet if not they can update it but very unwilling because they have lots of newer phones.
Most likely a developer will port it over

The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.

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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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It definitely should as according to google it will run smooth on devices with mere 512mb of RAM.
The major challenges is hacking the code for our soc as it has been discontinued by arm too..

If Google is not upgrading the Galaxy Nexus, why are you hoping Sony will not do the same?
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We'll know more next week.
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re. #Android @kitkat, we’re excited – next week our news on: 4.3, 4.4; products & more... #SonyXperia
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lewis021 said:
The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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4.3 is smooth as heaven no joke
So 4.4 is going to be a load better
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