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Anyone know when roll on on Ice Cream Sandwitch for arc 'll start ?
i dont want to exactly date , but maybe month ?
First Google has the release 4.0, then SE can bring it to our Arcs.
Rumours say it'll be before christmas but I'd say Q1 of 2012, maybe february.
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any official news about this ? some from se blog ?
and when google release 4.0 ?
It would be nice to get the update. Rumor has it ICS has great Memory Management which increase the battery life. I read somewhere On Moto Xoom it had a battery life of 70hours.
ShyamSasi said:
It would be nice to get the update. Rumor has it ICS has great Memory Management which increase the battery life. I read somewhere On Moto Xoom it had a battery life of 70hours.
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sounds great!
i heard the xperia nozomi (se 2012 flagship) would be release on march 2012, and will have ICS. so i think ICS will come out before that. maybe by the end of the year, or on christmas
but, i'm still not sure if our lovely arc will get ICS update too
I look forward to this new version of android
its been confirmed arc will get it.
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its been confirmed arc will get it.
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source ???
Wasn't there an agreement by all manufacturers to support devices for 18 months after launch? Including providing the latest android version etc.
I think that was during the Google I/O conference or something similar. [I could be wrong].
I'm a Ice Cream Sandwich lover! I want it release faster!
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Wasn't there an agreement by all manufacturers to support devices for 18 months after launch? Including providing the latest android version etc.
I think that was during the Google I/O conference or something similar. [I could be wrong].
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Sony Ericsson denies XPERIA Ice Cream Sandwich plans
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Sony Ericsson denies XPERIA Ice Cream Sandwich plans
source : h t t p : / / w w w .slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-denies-xperia-ice-cream-sandwich-plans-08178059/
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Regardless of that.. xtacy is correct - SE have signed up to deploy android releases for 18 months min to handsets..
xtacy! said:
Wasn't there an agreement by all manufacturers to support devices for 18 months after launch? Including providing the latest android version etc.
I think that was during the Google I/O conference or something similar. [I could be wrong].
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Yes you are right, but if afik the agreement will start with ics
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Well, according to this source a Sony Ericsson representative was quick to reply saying that all 2011 Xperia models will receive the Ice Cream Sandwich update. The quote was quickly retracted to an official statement of:
"When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner, as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view."
I'd say Ice Cream Sandwich will greatly improve the user experience, and should be working fine on single-core processors as Android hasn't fully migrated to the dual-core world yet. Good chance?
As the Arc S is about to be released running 2.3.4 I would be amazed if it did not get bumped up to ICS. I mean that would be really bad of SE not to update that phone. I can't imagine it would take one of the talanted devs on here very long to port an Arc S 4.0 ROM to the Arc even if SE do not officialy update. So we will get it. Well, thats my opinion anyway.
Ice cream shud be too heavy for the 1GHz processor like Arc.. except the DoomLord had succesfully make the kernel overclock perfectly gonna be awesome !
ICS is supposed to be lighter than Gingerbread, and by the way Nexus S is also 1GHz and it works fine there - http://www.gsmarena.com/ice_cream_sandwich_gets_leaked_on_video-news-3199.php
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ICS is supposed to be lighter than Gingerbread, and by the way Nexus S is also 1GHz and it works fine there - http://www.gsmarena.com/ice_cream_sandwich_gets_leaked_on_video-news-3199.php
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Agreed - dunno where everyone gets this idea that each release of android gets slower - it actually keeps getting faster.
It does however tend to get larger with every release, so the limiting factor tends to be availability of internal storage - and even this only becomes an issue when large bloated UIs are bolted onto the OS (e.g. HTC sense on the Desire).
are u sure arc can update to ICS???
maybe ICS only for Tablet or smartphone with Procie dualcore, like honeycomb is only for tablet
we'll wait and we hope arc can update to ICS
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Not at all. This was just a rushed thread written in less than 2 minutes so I didn't have time to explain my question.
Games do run insanely smooth BUT I'm talking about the UI. Project Butter is a nice feature that I would want to see in the Xplay. And everyone knows that if you put a pre-4.1 Android device next to, say, an iPhone 4, and for example, play a game and then go back to home screen, the UI looks a lot more smoother in the iPhone, so that's why I'm saying Android 4.1 may be a choice.
The real question: will the Xplay run well with future versions of Android? Because games (the point of the Xplay) didn't work well with ICS, in fact, custom ICS roms often run smoother than the official beta... If the Xplay didn't ran well with Android 4.1 even with custom roms, it would mean that we were fully unsupported, we won't run apps with newer SDK levels unless people manage to port the APIs, therefore being obsolete. And I don't want that to happen.
By the way, I'm not a newb, I've been here for almost a year
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DanielEGVi said:
I really do not want this device to be extinct
Sony Xperia Play - Tapatalk 2
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Even if we dont who cares cause all we care about are the games running smoothly !
DanielEGVi said:
I really do not want this device to be extinct
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We aren't even getting ICS officially so there is no chance of Jellybean outside of custom roms.
another newb posting a pointless discussion. Sony said no ics so why in your mind would you think we'd get the next platform that's STILL ics with a facelift? lol really? If you want ics then unlock and root. Otherwise just sell your play and stop crying.
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I really do not want this device to be extinct
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We only have to care about games coming out for the Xperia PLAY not all that fancy ****.
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Even if we dont who cares cause all we care about are the games running smoothly !
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Ditto.
We may not be able to boast the newest firmware... but honestly what are we losing?
• Data monitoring/management? We can get a free app for that.
• ICS's panoramic camera? We already have that.
• Menu button previews/task killer? Honestly not necessary.
• Project butter? Our phone is already insanely smooth.
• Widget resizing? There's about a billion launchers that can do this already.
...I know there's more to it, but going off the many devices I've upped to 4.x, seems all we're missing is a new look for our UI, a new look for menus... which would actually backfire when considering the increased RAM usage and compromised software compatibility... if I care that much about "a new look", I'll get a ICS-themed launcher.
By laws of the word, something must fail to be compatible with new software before it can be considered obsolete... even if the said software isn't Xperia Play Optimized, Xperia Play can definitely run it, therefore it can't be considered obsolete. Xperia Play's means of staying alive is through game releases... which haven't been stopping or even slowing down (as I can tell every time I look at my new content backlog and feel like fainting).
Gin2ics, widgetlocker and holo launcher for me does the trick.
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We aren't even getting ICS officially so there is no chance of Jellybean outside of custom roms.
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Heh...custom roms are better than offical anyways lol.
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another newb posting a pointless discussion. Sony said no ics so why in your mind would you think we'd get the next platform that's STILL ics with a facelift? lol really? If you want ics then unlock and root. Otherwise just sell your play and stop crying.
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Not at all. This was just a rushed thread written in less than 2 minutes so I didn't have time to explain my question.
Games do run insanely smooth BUT I'm talking about the UI. Project Butter is a nice feature that I would want to see in the Xplay. And everyone knows that if you put a pre-4.1 Android device next to, say, an iPhone 4, and for example, play a game and then go back to home screen, the UI looks a lot more smoother in the iPhone, so that's why I'm saying Android 4.1 may be a choice.
The real question: will the Xplay run well with future versions of Android? Because games (the point of the Xplay) didn't work well with ICS, in fact, custom ICS roms often run smoother than the official beta... If the Xplay didn't ran well with Android 4.1 even with custom roms, it would mean that we were fully unsupported, we won't run apps with newer SDK levels unless people manage to port the APIs, therefore being obsolete. And I don't want that to happen.
By the way, I'm not a newb, I've been here for almost a year
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Is it ???
http://www.androidcentral.com/xperia-s-jelly-bean-announcement-expected-month
But today it seems an announcement may be near
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So, this is no new news, the article is just saying an announcement from Sony for the Xperia S 4.1 is near.
Don't read Android Central articles, just follow the Xperia Twitter and Xperia Blog posts directly.
They're supposed to announce the timeline for the 2012 devices in mid-December but JB is not coming until February at least from what I've read.
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Thanks for advise guys !!!
So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.
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So when they say S, do they mean the S as well as the SL? I'd assume so since they are essentially the same thing with a different processor.
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It's not even a different processor
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It's not even a different processor
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The same processor, but overclocked!
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The same processor, but overclocked!
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Oh cool. The more you know :good:
so this is an announcement that they will have an announcement?
Inception badadum tssss
Calm down, boys, we all very well know that official Jellybean won't be on our phones that fast. It's Sony, so we have to wait(thanks to CM, no more. After CM I see little reason to use stock). We saw news about early november/late october, now it's december, after december it will be january, and some site will yell OMG EXPARIA S IZ OPTODET TO JILLYBEAM!!!!111111
No, it won't happen before the time Sony decided. They won't just say "Hey guys, let's make a surprise" and release JB.
Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!
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Hi, I'm currently still using stock rom on my xperia s. Is CM really such a huge difference? And which CM should I take? (CM 9 or 10) Thanks!
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If you don't care about FM radio and 1080p video recording,you can choose CM10.
among regagae
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.
They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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quiwoon said:
mid q1, too long will have CM 10.1 by then.
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So like middle of February, about two months away. Not too long of a wait at all.
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They'll announce they had to cancel the update since due to internal testing, they found the hardware not sufficient to support JB
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Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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Which is amazing, and considering xperia e has jelly bean out of the box
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Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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Yeah, that made me mad a bit... I mean I love the camera and the screen of the XS but since ICS it's a piece of garbage... Losing focus, music stutters, no quick launch for cam, network drop out, random slowdowns, home screen redraw, etc... Last sony for sure... I'll try to enjoy it until it dies and then either a Nexus or WP. Enough of Android's fragmentation, late updates (if any), childish UI on other manufacturers roms, etc. I'm looking forward to see if JB improves anything but so far from what I saw on other devices (mainla cooked rom's however, it won't). We'll see (or not)
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Get a Nexus.. I too am sick of Sony and their lack of updates. I had an Arc S, and it was OK, I have an Xperia S and it's terrible, FAR too many software faults, most of which you mention.
I won't make the mistake of buying Xperia again.
Im just waiting for an Sony Nexus. I dont know if it will come out one day.. If not..
Another Sony :cyclops:
Hello guys! I was wondering today why that annocement hasnt been considered here on Xperia S forum, while it makes such an impression on Xperia Z forum. Its all because of http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/#more-9209 . It clearly says: "We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.". Guys i got used to it that you owners of XS should actually be full of hope and pleasure hearing such words, but unfortunately you always blame on news that type, so please make exception this time and try NOT to blame on me for sharing this great news (yea, ive been here around for year with my lovely xperia s but i switched to xperia z a time ago)
Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3
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Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3
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From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes
What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them
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What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them
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I luv the way people here beg for updates and the same time call them useless. Ok, we're waiting for the next (surely) positive reception LOLA
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From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes
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The "might" part of your post is just pure speculation unlikely to happen. Qualcomm EOL Snapdragon S3 chips.
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Dudes, DON'T, just DON'T.
We all know that our device will only get a JB Bug Fix Update and that's it, no more official updates.
Please, close this thread before some "I HATE YOU SONY", "I'M GOING BUY A NEXUS" appears.
Anyway, I'm going to buy a Honami at the end of the year, so I don't care.
x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.
A smooth non buggy 4.1.2 is perfect enough for me.
Its already smooth, Now just fix the bugs.
I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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xsp has already confirmed by sony.
for xs. don't hope too much.
*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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Haha, I guess we can continue to dream on until the day Sony confirms the doomday of Xperia Ion/S/Acro S!
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One reason some old devices had so much development was the fact all the source code was available. Now Qualcom is unlikely to give the source code to the dev community but Sony may be able to so this could come to the S3 chip devices. Yes I am being optimistic but it could happen and would help Sony establish itself in the device world. I just wish they would focus on less devices and create some really good phones with a longer life span. I don't get the concept of build 12 devices every year. It seems you could build four and cut more cost in parts and save a ton in development cost.
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x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.
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Yea, Ive got the same situation in my mind as I was an owner of x10. Most of you guys dunno that x10 was running 1.6 then 2.1, then was said to be by SONY not efficient to run properly 2.2, but then they realised that it can run 2.3 smoothly- it was highly unexpected by anyone. Also x10 as i remember at first wasnt capable of using multitouch, but SONY also here surprised us and came up with multitouch few months after x10's release. I would say that most companies cannot afford to update every portfolio smartphone thay have with every android update i mean 4.0.X->4.1.X->4.2.X->4.3.X, but some of them are able to skip minor updays only for major one and so they do.
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HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it
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HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it
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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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I'm guessing this thread has really said what 's got to say and those that have mentioned OpenGL ES 3.0 have really put the nails in the coffin on Android 4.3
Isn't there a thread in the general section dispelling even Android 4.2 updates from Sony for the XPERIA LT26i?
If Sony do a bang up job of getting this puppy to fly on Android 4.1.2, what more could we expect of a Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 chipset anyway.
And at the end of the day when the sun sets on the XPERIA S we have a bevy of excellent XDA developers that'll make sure the wheels don't fall off our trolley that is the XPERIA LT26i.
My XPERIA X10i (64GB MicroSD, 1.15GHz CPU, 1800mAh battery) is testament to that.
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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.
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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.
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How is it Sony's fault Qualcomm didn't provide the CPU drivers? Xperia S is the first flagship of the ships launched early January. I know you have the urge that you must put the blame on someone, but do it correctly. This thread is about the direction and future of Xperia S and not "let's try to pinpoint and destroy Sony".
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ok ok so i see that Sony Ericsson Live can go to kitkat!? and it's up to par if not weaker then the our play and we dont have it yet!?
See for your self
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this is really discouraging
well the only excuse for kit kat is no developers here
but we may get the 4.4 soon as no body at all is going to get xperia play and port 3.4 kernel to it like what he did for all other 2011 devices :victory:
Our devs seem to be on vacation or have broken phones, and my phones not to far away from death.
R800Z
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i'm already on galaxt note 3 and will never , NEVER , NEVER back to sony
This definitely seems to be the end of the line for the Play :'(
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Tons of us still use this phone daily and rabidly wait for updates...
Any devs reading this, your work is still appreciated.
I too have many negative feelings toward Sony for their having abandoned the Xperia Play. It was basically a range-topping flag ship of a phone and they just turned their back on it. I haven't personally given Sony a dollar since I bought a PS3 for the Blueray player waaay back when. Got my XPs second hand.
Sony will never upgrade the Xplay to ICS, JB or KitKat simply because the Xplay is a gaming device and newer versions of Android are too "heavy" to keep the same gaming performance as in GB, but the Xplay's hardware can actually run ICS and JB.
And personally I'm agreed with them, if someone wants ICS or JB in his Xplay just use a custom ROM but gaming will never be the same as in GB, guaranteed.
Try playing games like GTA III on a GB ROM and then on a ICS ROM, you'll notice MUCH difference (ICS will lag a lot).
Since the Xplay is a gaming device, there's no point on upgrading it to newer versions of Android if gaming performance will be compromised, that's it.
Anyway I really appreciate dev's work on the Xplay and I'm glad to see that this phone isn't dead yet.
P.S. sorry for my bad english, hope you understand
i for a fact know that anything above GB will kill gaming, just look at native ps1 support for ICS. but im the type of person who loves to push my electronics to the limit, laptops, consoles and phones. i dont plan to keep the Kitkat i just want to say "i was there" and to never under estimate a phone because of its specs. and perhaps theirs some people that for whatever reason dont game on the xperia play. just my 2 cents but me sitting here complaining about not having kitkat is not speeding up production lol. i wish i knew more about linux and how to compile form source.
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Guys.. for sure.. nw we hav a working touchscreen in 3.4 Kernel.. thanks to nobodyAtAll .. so we would be getting a Kit Kat Rom.. no more excuses this time
yes we have no more excuse this time
achotjan has xperia play too so we can see a working xperia overlay 4.4.2 too :victory:
also 4.4 roms are going to come to our play too :victory: (well there are many 4.4 roms that they are waiting for me to port them )
ooooh happy days!! :victory: now all we wait for is a kitkat rom!:good:
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yes we have no more excuse this time
achotjan has xperia play too so we can see a working xperia overlay 4.4.2 too :victory:
also 4.4 roms are going to come to our play too :victory: (well there are many 4.4 roms that they are waiting for me to port them )
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I hope so coz my xperia play is feeling outdated
They do this because they want people to buy their ****ty PSPs