What's with root and requiring a kernel be flashed to get it? I hear that a stock kernel is coming with root. For those of us on stock, will this be like rooting the way we are all used to, where we just flash CWM, su, busybox, etc? Or will we still have to flash the stock kernel over our stock kernel?
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flash CWM
flash a root.zip or rooted kernel
flash stock kernel (w/ stock recovery)
rejoice in root with stock kernel
daneurysm said:
flash CWM
flash a root.zip or rooted kernel
flash stock kernel (w/ stock recovery)
rejoice in root with stock kernel
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That isn't the way it is supposed to be, though. Shouldn't we just be able to root the stock kernel /rom?
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satur9ine said:
That isn't the way it is supposed to be, though. Shouldn't we just be able to root the stock kernel /rom?
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If you can find an exploit be my guest. Me? I prefer walking right in the front door if possible.
EDIT: Also, there is no way it is "supposed to be"...the only thing it is "supposed to be" is not-rooted out of the box.
satur9ine said:
That isn't the way it is supposed to be, though. Shouldn't we just be able to root the stock kernel /rom?
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Go ahead and get it done then.
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Is it worth rooting the e4gt?
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Is it worth rooting the e4gt?
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I have the same questions as well, more specifically are:
1) are there any side effects of rooting, such as the dreaded Loss of Signal problem I've been reading about?
2) I need to root with the "deodexed" root if i want to flash roms or themes?
3) How do i flash roms/themes without Clockwork Mod because i want a stock kernel?
-If I've read correctly, rooting takes away clockwork mod if you want a stock kernel (i could be wrong).
Thanks in advance guys!
1 ... Not getting in that fight some say its not the kernel and some say it is... But even phones that are stock get los ....
2. There are a couple of kernels that have cwm 5 read the threads flash one through odin ....
3... Choose what rom you want to flash ...... Flash it then when done... Back to odin flash stock kernel but when you want to flash another rom you'll have to flash cwm back on it ..... You can have a rooted rom with stock kernel this way
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The custom kernels are causing LOS to happen more frequently. Some have had it on stock but almost everyone had it on custom kernel. Root using crawrj odex or deodex eg30 and u will stay on stock kernel. Best way to root. If u want themes use deodex if not odex. Odex is faster.
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I was also wondering if the android os bug is present on custom roms as well. I would like to know this before rooting.
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musclehead84 said:
The custom kernels are causing LOS to happen more frequently. Some have had it on stock but almost everyone had it on custom kernel. Root using crawrj odex or deodex eg30 and u will stay on stock kernel. Best way to root. If u want themes use deodex if not odex. Odex is faster.
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Thanks for the reply....i do have a couple of other questions.
how would i flash roms/themes without clockwork mod? I've always flashed with cwm.
also, faster as in the phones functionality when using odex? or a faster rooting process?
Sorry for all the quesitons, this has been the most "afraid" i've been to root a phone from all i've read on the forums
Thanks Musclehead
I have the Boost Mobile s2. I rooted it with the framaroot.apk but I don't know how to put a custom recovery on it so I can make backups. I have the gc01 which I updated my phone with on Kies. Which recovery do you recommend and how do I put it on my phone? I'm a bit of a noob on this so please help.
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I have the Boost Mobile s2. I rooted it with the framaroot.apk but I don't know how to put a custom recovery on it so I can make backups. I have the gc01 which I updated my phone with on Kies. Which recovery do you recommend and how do I put it on my phone? I'm a bit of a noob on this so please help.
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The safest custom recovery is EL26. Personally I use chris41g's. It can be found here. Just flash the tar using pc Odin, reboot into recovery, and you are good to go. However, make sure before you do that you save a stock(or custom) zip kernel of the rom build you are on so you can flash it once you are done in cwm. Personally, I would use Agat's kernel, flash it after you do your backup, that way you always have cwm good luck. I'm on Boost too. Let me know if you have any questions.
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http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...ls/Recovery Kernels/GB/Chris41g/Stock CWM/TAR
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jdsingle76 said:
The safest custom recovery is EL26. Personally I use chris41g's. It can be found here. Just flash the tar using pc Odin, reboot into recovery, and you are good to go. However, make sure before you do that you save a stock(or custom) zip kernel of the rom build you are on so you can flash it once you are done in cwm. Personally, I would use Agat's kernel, flash it after you do your backup, that way you always have cwm good luck. I'm on Boost too. Let me know if you have any questions.
J
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...ls/Recovery Kernels/GB/Chris41g/Stock CWM/TAR
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Where do I get EL26? I'm a little apprehensive about using pc odin. I soft bricked my phone using it a couple of times. Like I said before I'm on gc01 and I used framaroot to root the phone and had to flash an fi22 kernel and update to jelly bean through Kies again. I'm not an expert when it comes to Samsungs lol. I had an HTC before and it was so easy lol. I love this phome though. I attached a screenshot of where I'm at.
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Where do I get EL26? I'm a little apprehensive about using pc odin. I soft bricked my phone using it a couple of times. Like I said before I'm on gc01 and I used framaroot to root the phone and had to flash an fi22 kernel and update to jelly bean through Kies again. I'm not an expert when it comes to Samsungs lol. I had an HTC before and it was so easy lol. I love this phome though. I attached a screenshot of where I'm at.
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The link I attached has the EL26. I understand your frustration, but I assure you if you do it right, it is completely safe. But if you insist on not using it, you can use Mobile Odin since you are already rooted. It's in the play store, and worth every penny. But pc Odin is free . Your call. Either way, make sure you have a gc01 kernel in zip format to flash back to after your backup.
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The link I attached has the EL26. I understand your frustration, but I assure you if you do it right, it is completely safe. But if you insist on not using it, you can use Mobile Odin since you are already rooted. It's in the play store, and worth every penny. But pc Odin is free . Your call. Either way, make sure you have a gc01 kernel in zip format to flash back to after your backup.
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Does the gc01 kernel in zip format have to be a rooted gc01 kernel so I don't loose root? And where do I find one? I know I have a lot of questions lol I'm just new to this. Thanks in advance
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Does the gc01 kernel in zip format have to be a rooted gc01 kernel so I don't loose root? And where do I find one? I know I have a lot of questions lol I'm just new to this. Thanks in advance
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That's fine. That's what we're here for. I'd rather you ask pre-emptive questions and get it right than brick your phone by doing something wrong . Here's the link for the GC01. It has cwm too, so you can use it as your daily. And to answer your question, no, you don't need a "rooted" kernel. As a matter of fact, the kernel you have now is stock .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39841892
Good luck!
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That's fine. That's what we're here for. I'd rather you ask pre-emptive questions and get it right than brick your phone by doing something wrong . Here's the link for the GC01. It has cwm too, so you can use it as your daily. And to answer your question, no, you don't need a "rooted" kernel. As a matter of fact, the kernel you have now is stock .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39841892
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Ok, so I downloaded that zip. Now that I have it how to I flash it to my phone? Do I still need to use the EL26?
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Ok, so I downloaded that zip. Now that I have it how to I flash it to my phone? Do I still need to use the EL26?
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If you downloaded the zip, then yes. If you want a good, stable kernel that has custom recovery, let's do this. Download the tar of the GC01 and flash it using Mobile Odin. That way you don't have to use EL26 at all. . Just flash it, reboot into recovery, and cwm will be included in the GC01 kernel so you can do backups/restores with that.
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If you downloaded the zip, then yes. If you want a good, stable kernel that has custom recovery, let's do this. Download the tar of the GC01 and flash it using Mobile Odin. That way you don't have to use EL26 at all. . Just flash it, reboot into recovery, and cwm will be included in the GC01 kernel so you can do backups/restores with that.
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Ok, I did that, phone re-started. Checked if I have a recovery...success! :laugh: Thanks so much!!! You're the best :laugh:
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Ok, I did that, phone re-started. Checked if I have a recovery...success! :laugh: Thanks so much!!! You're the best :laugh:
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Awesome! Glad you got it working. Have fun . Again, I'm on Boost too, so let me know if you have any questions/issues.
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I have a boost S2 and I use Agat's custom kernal. It makes backups, has multiple governors and schedulers, it can be oc/uv and I have been using it as a dd for awhile now.
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I have a boost S2 and I use Agat's custom kernal. It makes backups, has multiple governors and schedulers, it can be oc/uv and I have been using it as a dd for awhile now.
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Witch version of the agat kernel are you using?
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I am really scared of bricking my phone and wanted to ask xda to clarify and help me out putting a custom rom on my phone. I have had custom roms on my optimus v and htc one v but never a samsung device and im scared hearing about these bugs that brick your phone and whatever odins are. Can someone give me a guide to root/put a safe recovery on my phone then explain odins? Htc devices have nothing like these sorry if this thread was pointless, if anything just point me to a thread thanks
Look for the stickies in general section questions section and development. Everything you need to know Is in those threads.
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Look for the stickies in general section questions section and development. Everything you need to know Is in those threads.
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Im just really confused because im on jellybean 4.1.2 stock and im not sure if that has a effect on anything since those threads are old
XxlemonxX said:
Im just really confused because im on jellybean 4.1.2 stock and im not sure if that has a effect on anything since those threads are old
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Rooting is rooting. Once you're rooted you can flash whatever you want. Just follow the guides and you'll be fine. If you figured out how to root htc, this is a breeze!
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Rooting is rooting. Once you're rooted you can flash whatever you want. Just follow the guides and you'll be fine. If you figured out how to root htc, this is a breeze!
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I rooted doing famaroot it took 4 seconds. Not sure on how to install a recovery though. through Odin I install a jb one?
XxlemonxX said:
I rooted doing famaroot it took 4 seconds. Not sure on how to install a recovery though. through Odin I install a jb one?
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Yes, through odin, but if you want to flash custom roms, use el26 custom recovery. Roms come with their own kernel, some custom. But is you are rooted, and want to stay with your jb stock, you can flash agat's or garwynn's custom kernel, both have cwm.
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Yes, through odin, but if you want to flash custom roms, use el26 custom recovery. Roms come with their own kernel, some custom. But is you are rooted, and want to stay with your jb stock, you can flash agat's or garwynn's custom kernel, both have cwm.
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Alright thanks! Sorry for bothering you... But i am now rooted and have a custom recovery. [Agats Jb V5] that one works for the people coming from 4.1.2. And i can just go into my recovery now and flash el26 recovery? And im about to install cm10... all i would do is full wipe and install/ flash gapps i dont need to flash anything in odin or modem or something?
Really stuck on what to do.. How do I get a ICS modem? I have a el26 zip and a ICS modem zip but not sure on what to do. Help appreciated.. Trying to install a 4.2.2 ROM btw
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Really stuck on what to do.. How do I get a ICS modem? I have a el26 zip and a ICS modem zip but not sure on what to do. Help appreciated.. Trying to install a 4.2.2 ROM btw
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I'm assuming you're trying to install CM 10.1. If your have ics modem, flash el26, reboot into recovery, flash rom, gapps, modem, reboot, profit
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I'm assuming you're trying to install CM 10.1. If your have ics modem, flash el26, reboot into recovery, flash rom, gapps, modem, reboot, profit
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So i can flash this el26cwm recovery/zip kernal in recovery? And then just a Fl26.zip [Ics modem] in recovery aswell? I think i saw somewhere that CDMA cannot flash modems through recovery.. MobileOdin does not work my GS2. {VM]
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So i can flash this el26cwm recovery/zip kernal in recovery? And then just a Fl26.zip [Ics modem] in recovery aswell? I think i saw somewhere that CDMA cannot flash modems through recovery.. MobileOdin does not work my GS2. {VM]
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Mobile Odin can not flash modems anyway, and yes, you can flash el26 cwm in the recovery your have now, as long as its zip format. Boot to recovery, flash el26, reboot into new recovery, flash rom, gapps, modem, reboot, enjoy.
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At this moment I have a custom Rom and kernel on my nexus 7. Kitkat will be out soon, what is the best way to get ota for Kitkat? Flash back to original software? Where can I download that?
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Do you have a nandroid backup? This is very important!
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Yes, I have a 9-29 backup in my TWRP folder
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So.. What to do?
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So.. What to do?
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Simple, wait until it's actually announced and ready to download for your device. When 4.4 is announced, it may or may not be ready that very same day, so sit tight. You'll see enough news about it to know when it's ready.
I'll get an ota message even if I'm on a custom rom? And I can install that without any problems?
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I'll get an ota message even if I'm on a custom rom? And I can install that without any problems?
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No, when it's release and ready to download just go back to the stock rom, then there you'll get the OTA.
I personally will wait to download the img, restore the Nexus to 4.4 and just to try Kit Kat, then I'll just flash back to AICP, I'll wait then for 4.4 to get incorporated into custom ROMs.
I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
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I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
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probably not has to be stock recovery and non-rooted
Shu. said:
I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
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No. You need stock recovery AND stock kernel.
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No. You need stock recovery AND stock kernel.
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Where should I get the stock kernel? I did not make a nandroid backup as I did not flash the recovery, I only used fastboot boot recovery.img
If I flash the stock google images, does it wipe the virtual sd content? or only my data? Thanks a lot for helping me out!
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Where should I get the stock kernel? I did not make a nandroid backup as I did not flash the recovery, I only used fastboot boot recovery.img
If I flash the stock google images, does it wipe the virtual sd content? or only my data? Thanks a lot for helping me out!
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You can get it from the stock images, just extract the boot.img and flash that via bootloader using fastboot. Same goes for stock recovery.
for those that needs it to flash ota update, and is currently on MC2 firmware.
enjoy !!!
Thank you pb......
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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npesa92 said:
Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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Well, if you're feeling up to it, you could test it for the rest of us. No one seems to have reported back about anything yet. I'm sure that it will break root though.
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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i didnt go back and reread it but i think thats what garwynn tried and he lost root.
This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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npesa92 said:
It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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Thanks.. I thought it was one of those, just couldn't remember which. I may just hold off until I see what others are doing. I am going to look for a nice TouchWiz ROM that allows me to theme it.
Once the awesome Devs here at XDA get their hands on the code, it won't be long before we have a rootable Stock 4.3..
I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I'd just throw that under the "do not attempt" category. Odds are that while trying to apply the update, stock recovery would detect some assets that don't belong in your current build and abort the update. Also, if this update was successful and something messed up, you would now have no custom recovery. You would have to Odin back to whatever software version possible.
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Does anyone have the stock MK4 recovery pulled? If any one has please help a brother out.
do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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twrp.....
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