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Just wondering if anybody has managed to extract / acquire the HTC Touch Cruise type Phonepad for Hermes ? It looks extremely cool and easy to use.
If you havent seen it already check this out :
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=1148
Go to number 4 - 'Office in your pocket' - which shows what Im after.
Cheers.
Its the touch screen keypad your after?
Check this out
I have found the answer and it lies right here on this forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338209
I think that this is one of the best utilities I have ever downloaded for my Hermes. Very sleek and extremely practical.
Enjoy !
not quite as practical as that little thing called a keyboard which slides out from underneath... why do you guys buy a tytn that has a full qwerty keyboard (if it an english version of course) if you insist on touching the screen... why not buy a touch???
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There are some things only experience can teach you. When I bought this device I thought that I would be using the keyboard a lot BUT ...and this is a big BUT ... nothing beats the one handed operability of your average mobile phone. Not all of us will sit on the couch all day to make use of the sliding QWERTY keyboard. When you are on the move or in a rush its easier to pull your phone out of the holster and let one thumb do the job.
The HTC touch came out later and frankly is not an impressive device. The HTC Touch Cruise however is a top notch smartphone and that baby will probably be mine in June when my current contract expires
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There are some things only experience can teach you. When I bought this device I thought that I would be using the keyboard a lot BUT ...and this is a big BUT ... nothing beats the one handed operability of your average mobile phone. Not all of us will sit on the couch all day to make use of the sliding QWERTY keyboard. When you are on the move or in a rush its easier to pull your phone out of the holster and let one thumb do the job.
The HTC touch came out later and frankly is not an impressive device. The HTC Touch Cruise however is a top notch smartphone and that baby will probably be mine in June when my current contract expires
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agree... big onscreen is good for txt on the go... but when you sit down to type an email.. full keyboard is best
I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.
That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
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the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with
Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing
For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600
The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
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White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
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I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.
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I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!
Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.
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touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwfYSR7HttA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ha! That'll need to be fixed!
I'm not surprised it can be fooled by a picture. I thought I read that already somewhere, but I'm not sure.
It's a low security option, has more of a gimmick and is not intended to provide a strong security measure.
I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
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I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
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Does the default Android locking mechanism still only work on the lock screen, or can you now lock out individual applications (messaging for example) like has been possible with dumbphones for almost 10 years now?
Nothing like that present.
Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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You also have the pattern or keypad security if you want something more secure.
Mark.
You know Google have even highlighted that its a non-secure way of locking your phone. Its just another type of unlock method (when you have no pin set)
The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
This isn't really news. Even google's official video shows selecting Face Unlock to be "Low Security - Experimental"
Check here at 38 seconds
you can do 2 levels of security.. face then code. no biggie
Anyone who wants to try Face Unlock can try this : https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock
You'll have an idea of what this is about, I have the paid version and it's pretty good actually.
What about pinching one eye or the like when setting up the face-unlock. Should then demand a similar grimace to unlock. Pretty unlikely someone have such a picture around to unlock the phone..
Just a thought.. gonna test it
Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
I really don't think that people who is afraid of getting their phone unlocked by other people would use the face unlock anyway.
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Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
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Apples patent only covers sliding on a specific line and so doesnt cover Honeycomb onwards if I recall correctly and definitely doesnt cover the unlock action on ICS.
Mark.
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The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
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So what about all those grumpy people in the world?? You would have to pass a smile test before being allowed to buy the phone lol
Mark.
Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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I don't think so... it measures the distances between your facial features (eyes, noise, mouth)
The Face-Unlock feature is not a security feature. It's just a feature to unlock the screen without using your fingers.
Hey everybody, I am currently a Sprint Customer Who has had the evo 3D since launch. I am in the market for an upgrade, and I am looking at the Note II.
I really like the fact that it is a super powerful phone, and the S-Pen functionality would be of great use to me. Some of the things that I am not sure of have to do with the software...
I noticed with my evo 3D, support was not super quick, and most roms that removed the sense kernel ended up losing 4G and 3D capability, and sometimes even GPS.
I know the GSIII has gained a lot of traction in custom roms, etc, but I don't know if that will be the same for the Note II.
I guess the bottom line here is that I like the Note II, but I don't want TouchWiz, but I still want full functionality especially the 4G and S-Pen. So with that in mind, Do you think this is a good buy?
The difference between this 2 devices is from the earth to the SKY, I been a HTC loyal costumer for over 6 years... this ended when the NOTE 2 came out and so far I LOVE this phone. im pretty sure you will love it too, get a launcher over touchwiz and you will be set.
At first its kind of wow this is too big but now (a week after) its like man look at all those tiny small phones ...
We already have root and some ROMS, so its only a matter of time before we get a big crowd of developers working with us...
go do that swap NOW!!!!
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Not sure if you knew, you can make the font smaller. You can go to Settings >> Display >> Font Size. You can select tiny but it won't be as small as the font in 3d. but still it makes the font look better.
I used to own the e3d as well but for me, i'm really glad i went with note 2.
I've had every Evo and happy with going to the Note 2 even from the Evo 4G LTE. I would rather stick Note 2 over S3. I love AMOLED screens and very happy they did the RGB setup instead of pentile and a major reason I went Note 2 over the obvious things.
How about one handing the device? Does it feel comfortable or do you feel you could drop it at any second. Mainly with having to pull noti down?
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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All of that you listed has been addressed before you even got the phone and was tested/working a few days after the phone came out...
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Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can run serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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Anyone who says the screen isnt brighter has been smoking too much hash. I could hardly see either of my evo's on a sunny day, this thing is leaps and bounds brighter and clearer outside then an evo. I dont even have to take off my polarized Ray Bans to see the screen. I have perfect vision so it may be different for contact or eyeglass wearer.
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can ...serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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I have to get that rom that makes my phone bigger and gives it double the cores. DL link please.
Getting Anxious
I am currently rocking the EVO 4G and I lovied this phone when I got it but started to notice that it seemed like the last great phone that HTC made. I dont get my upgrade until Dec. 1st and I cant wait unitl I can finally get rid of this thing I call a smart phone and get a truely amazing device that is the Note II. I was a little upset when the original Note was on AT&T only but now that the successor is out for Sprint, I am as giddy as a school girl. Reading most of these comments makes me that much more anxious to get my hands on one so that I can finally see the awesomeness and true power of Samsung. Thanks for all the great input from all of your posts.
I'd make your decision based on your preferred screen size. There are a lot of great devices out at the moment.
I can recommend this device if you like the size.
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Since you use it one handed a lot, you should look into a flygrip. There is a video review on YouTube.
Hey, I would just like to thank everybody who has given their input in my thread here. I'd like to inform everybody that I am now a proud owner of a titanium Sprint Note II!. The capability of the phone impresses me, and my only fault is that it is taking me a bit of time to find the best way to hold it.
Thanks everybody!
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
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Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
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Sometimes I still pick up my phone and stare at it like a complete idiot for a few seconds before I remember that it doesn't have face unlock
Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
It actually is the worst FPS ever! I just hope it's not a hardware issue and can be fixed by software
Try to just lay your finger on the scanner, ever so slightly, instead of pressing. Helped me.
I agree here, Faceunlock was beautiful. In an ideal world, we would have gotten Faceunlock AND fingerprint scanner (back).
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Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
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Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
Mine seems to be getting worse. 2 full seconds to register seems to be the average if it actually works the first time. About half the time it takes 2 or more tries. I'm coming from a scanner on a 5 year old phone that just works. I told myself I just needed to get used to it, but the opposite seems to be happening. The longer I own the phone, the more I just assume stuff will work, so I'm less careful with the FPR, etc.
Mine's erratic with performance all over the place. Sometimes it fails, sometimes it takes 3s to work, sometimes the screen stays blank until I use the power button.
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Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
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I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
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Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
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Exactly...well said
When the rumors were flying around about this phone months back and it was mentioned that 6pro might have a curved screen.... I cringed.
I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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Unsure if I will return my P6P. However, for my first in screen finger print reader, this can't be right.
The FPR is so fickle. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Agreed that if anyone spent any time with this phone, they would know to fix the FPR.
There are a few issues I hope Google can resolve soon: FPR, auto-brightness and antenna (if there is a software fix for antenna hanging on to weak 5G signals instead of moving to a stronger LTE when it is available).
yeah mine was returned yesterday back to ATT store for this same issue, used it one day and went back into the box most horrible FP I ever used, I had had to eat 55.00 restocking because of this crap oh well lesson learn!
Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
It's working very well for me but that's because my expectations aren't ultrasonic sensor ones. The accuracy has been very good but it's the speed that varies from pretty quick to 3/4 a second. Key thing is to press and hold until the haptics confirm or deny it. With that in mind I rarely get misses. Maybe a handful a day. Could it be better, sure, but it's not total trash.
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I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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That helped mine changing the animations then changing it back. Seems to be better, hope it lasts.
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I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
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Wow... You loose absolutely all credibility when you say the pixel 4 is "better in every aspect other than camera". That is just an idiotic comment. I understand you can't please everyone and there will always be a handful of people that'll complain, but come on... You are being absolutely ridiculous.
BTW, not understanding how y'all are having the negative experience. Been using fingerprint since day 1, and maybe had 1 or 2 times where I had to try a second time to unlock the phone. Only negative thing I can say is it does seem to be slightly slower than other fingerprint phones I've used before. I'm sure Google will address it or someone will modify the kernel source to improve the overall speed. It feels like people expect to be 100 percent satisfied in every aspect and if something only reaches 90 percent, their brains explode and the world is coming to an end!
If a slightly delayed (we're talking tenths of a second) fingerprint reader is such a deal breaker and calls for all this complaining, I can only imagine how y'all deal with everyday life. Just saying.
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Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
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Same here - my FPS is working just fine, maybe just a bit slower than the one I had on my OnePlus 7T Pro, but still nothing to complain about...
Fp working properly for me...