http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwfYSR7HttA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ha! That'll need to be fixed!
I'm not surprised it can be fooled by a picture. I thought I read that already somewhere, but I'm not sure.
It's a low security option, has more of a gimmick and is not intended to provide a strong security measure.
I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
AlexDmi said:
I already confirmed that it will be unlocked by a picture of you. Not very strong on the security side, more of a... fun feature, to say so
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Does the default Android locking mechanism still only work on the lock screen, or can you now lock out individual applications (messaging for example) like has been possible with dumbphones for almost 10 years now?
Nothing like that present.
Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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Is it meant to be secure? I mean, requiring a slide from left to right is not exactly impenetrable, either.
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You also have the pattern or keypad security if you want something more secure.
Mark.
You know Google have even highlighted that its a non-secure way of locking your phone. Its just another type of unlock method (when you have no pin set)
The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
This isn't really news. Even google's official video shows selecting Face Unlock to be "Low Security - Experimental"
Check here at 38 seconds
you can do 2 levels of security.. face then code. no biggie
Anyone who wants to try Face Unlock can try this : https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock
You'll have an idea of what this is about, I have the paid version and it's pretty good actually.
What about pinching one eye or the like when setting up the face-unlock. Should then demand a similar grimace to unlock. Pretty unlikely someone have such a picture around to unlock the phone..
Just a thought.. gonna test it
Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
I really don't think that people who is afraid of getting their phone unlocked by other people would use the face unlock anyway.
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Well I think it's a nice security update from just a slider and it kinda avoids apples new patent on sliding to unlock a phone unless they also patented this...
In any event think of it like this we don't have to slide to unlock the phone now just look at it. Easier to unlock and a security enhancement.
I mean if I go to a restaurant and forget my phone someone who picks it up won't be able to get into it unless maybe they are a stalker...
So yes if there is someone stalking me who stealthfully snaps my picture then mugs me and takes my phone then yes they can beat the security. But seriously if you look at real world normal situations this is dynamite security.
Even the pattern isn't that secure. Have you ever examined your screen carefully? A lot of the time you can see the pattern by looking at the streaks on the window not to mention someone merely has to watch me do it to learn my pattern. It isn't like I go out of my way to cover it up...
I think people are making way to big a deal about this "security risk".
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Apples patent only covers sliding on a specific line and so doesnt cover Honeycomb onwards if I recall correctly and definitely doesnt cover the unlock action on ICS.
Mark.
gogol said:
The Face Unlock should implement "smile" detection.
That will make it a bit harder compare to use "still" image to fool the Face Unlock
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So what about all those grumpy people in the world?? You would have to pass a smile test before being allowed to buy the phone lol
Mark.
Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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Im curious if face unlock will be affected by changes in facial hair? If I don't shave for a few days and am rocking a mild beard, will I have to reset it with a new picture?
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I don't think so... it measures the distances between your facial features (eyes, noise, mouth)
The Face-Unlock feature is not a security feature. It's just a feature to unlock the screen without using your fingers.
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Just wanted you guys feelings on how this feature is doing in your nexus life. I actually use it as a security feature and it hasn't let me down and I don't think it will. I'd like to hear your thoughts. That's one up on the iphone.
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Less secure than PIN or pattern unlock as the 'PIN' in the case of Face Unlock is literally written all over your face.
Note that the argument is actually more complicated than this because it depends on what threat you're actually trying to secure your phone from.
the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.
I tried it for two days, but I became tired of looking like a real winner in public unlocking my phone, as well as it didn't catch my face all the time. (about 66% of the time) I do agree however that it is more than a gimmick.
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the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.
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Thats the only time i see this being useful. I havent tried it and probably dont plan on as right now its just a fun feature if anything.
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It would be great if the preview image from face unlock could be disabled. I know I'm handsome and all, but I don't want to look at my mug 63 times a day.
I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?
Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?
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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.
i was surprised that it worked with my glasses on and off. i initially set it up, but i cant be bothered setting up a secure lock screen, since i like quick camera access which cant be had with a PIN or face unlock
using it on mine, however the one interesting thing is, I was showing off on launch day. And handed my phone to my mom and said unlock it. She turned it on and it recognized her faster than me. As posted previously, use the improve feature in settings
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I'm actually constantly surprised by how well the face unlock works! And if for whatever reason you want to bypass it quickly, you can just tap at the bottom of the screen to go immediately to whatever your backup method is!
I tried a couple facebook pictures of myself and those didn't unlock, and I also haven't tried to see if it might recognize my brother as me but honestly, if someone really wanted to get into your phone, they would regardless of what kind of "security" you use. In my opinion, the face unlock is quick, functional and cool. What's not to like?
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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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Yeah, and Face Unlock on all the custom ICS builds was absolutely horrible. Worked maybe 1/10 times after setting it up in perfect lighting.
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Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it
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I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.
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+1 on this.
(I was too lazy to elaborate on different threat scenarios more than adding a disclaimer to my post
Works alright. I don't know I like having it turned on, but have messed with it some.
Ewroinc said:
where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it
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It's in 4.0.2, you won't find it in 4.0.1
It takes too long for my liking.
I find it stupid that my Nexus won't let me use face recognotion if I setup a VPN, it forces you to choose between a pin/pattern/password. So now if I want to use face unlock I have to create then delete my VPN connection everytime.
I've been waiting so long for the NFC Rings to go on sale and now you can pre-order them: http://store.nfcring.com/
Anyone got one already, from the Kickstarter batch? Is it easy to use/worth getting, or is it just fiddly and a pain in the backside?
EDIT: Oh yeah, does it work through a case? I have Diztronic TPU case. If it don't work through that then I won't be interested.
Wow that's a pretty cool idea. I'd imagine it would work through a case. I use android beam between my phone and tablet and they both have cases on them.
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haha, a nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
x111 said:
*video*
haha, nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
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Hahah, that's hilarious.
tap, tap, tap, tap..... tap, tap, tap, tap
"Screw it, I'll use the unlock code!"
To decrease battery usage, I switch off BT and NFC. Everytime I have to use this ring, I have to unlock the phone and switch on the NFC and then find the sweet spot. No thanks, sir.
I backed it when I thought it was a novel idea. Now not so much lol. I already gave him my funds, so it's just like a expensive nfc tag lol. I don't have it yet though. I think it's shipping soon.
why not just use the powerbutton LOLOL
This seems kind of pointless to me.
I ordered both the regular ring and the alpha ring through the kickstarter, once they arrive I'll let you know how they work on the nexus 5.
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i think it's only good for NFC doors and sharing contacts, not worth it to use it to unlock phones
I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
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I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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floepie said:
Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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Motion sensor I assume. It freaked me out the first few times it happened because I didn't know it was an option in the ROM, and I thought my phone had been awake in my pocket. But upon digging through the settings, there is one under Lockscreen > Lockscreen Notifications called Pocket Mode You can set it to always wake the screen whenever you take it out of your pocket, or only wake if there are new notifications. Also it goes back to sleep when you put it in your pocket again. It's pretty dope.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
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Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
ritzxda said:
Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
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Are you using the xposed module or is it baked into the rom?
Hey guys, I'm the creator of the NFC Ring, thought I'd just jump on to say thanks for all the comments.
I'd agree with most of your points, you wil find your own use for your NFC Ring, it might not be unlocking your phone for example.. We actually provide all of our source code on github so you can build your own apps on the back of the NFC Ring..
We don't want to box people into specific use cases, we just provide a few example ones to get hackers started with the possibilities.
Just to answer some criticisms directly:
1) It's just two NFC tags on a ring. Pretty much but the amount of R&D that goes into doing that well is actually a lot, RFID and metal don't play well together and we have to build our own antennas specifically for this use case.
2) RE Derek's video, yea he had an initial poor first experience, we ship both a classic and alpha size ring, the alphas sweet spot is larger which makes it more useful for when you can't see the phones sweet spot. After conversations with Derek (read the comments) he does mention he didn't spend any time with the ring before doing a demo and we do encourage people to get used to using the ring. It takes a few days but this is new technology so there is an inherent learning curve..
Overall I'm really proud of what we made with the NFC Ring, it's been a lot of work and we have been completely open about everything and shared everything from day one. We're shipping another 1,000 rings tomorrow and I'm really excited to see what folks hack together. Our job now is to support anyone who wants to build something with their ring, whatever that may be..
If you do wanna engage with the NFC Ring community perhaps nudge some of the community members to jump over here and share their thoughts
We're still a small community but our goals are big Why would you want to keep those pesky unsecure keys that scratch your phone?! That's really what we're at war with..
Thanks again guys, every bit of support really helps and even if we're not the company that provides your NFC Ring I hope we were the ones to at least kickstart things in the right direction with sharing and open-source at the core.
FRP [Factory Reset Protect] Removal for Samsung Galaxy S7 & Edge (SM-930V & SM-935V)
I have decided to release full FRP Bypass PE1 + Software Root
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xboxexpert said:
The total has now risen to the administration having over 10K of phones locked in her drawer with no way to bypass security lock.
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I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.
psouza4 said:
I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.
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I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
#guestimate
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I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
#guestimate
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Aw, you meant $10K value not 10K quantity. What a difference a character makes. I would have loved to see the ridiculous stockpile that 10,000 phones in a single drawer would look like
So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.
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So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.
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I have successfully bypassed the FRP Reset Protection no matter how much security is on the phone, passcode, pattern, fingerprint. All are bypassed for a full clean factory reset.
So short answer, yes. Also there is a high likelihood that this method works on ALL variants.
I'm going to say trolly troll troll.
'Tis all.
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If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.
jayfried said:
If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.
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I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.
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I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.
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Pm me the method. I want to try on my phone
I personally would contact MikeChannon (forum admin) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=335322 and go from there. I'm all for public disclosure but if you are worried about legal or forum rules I think he'd be more informed.
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The bypass method would not violate any law per se. The only issue that would be in question is if you own the phone or lease it.
Under that specific lease agreement it probably has wording about applying custom software to the phone.
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ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.
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ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.
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Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....
or meaning someone else will release it anyways in time so whether you release it or not doesnt matter outside of you being "first" lol
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Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....
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Actually it would destroy or prevent a market. Markets only exist for those who know how and can do it. At the moment that is Samsung. You don't share it and Samsung makes a bit more money. Then someone else figures it out and they also don't share.... you start seeing adverts on eBay priced a bit below Samsung for the "get back into your phone!" service (or maybe it's just you trying to make a buck ;P ) If you do release it or someone else figures it out and releases it. Well,... we will still see the adverts on ebay for the techna-challenged but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper because it is a known process thus many people offering thus competition.
rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw
PiousInquisitor said:
rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw
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Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.
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Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.
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You try it. My phone is set up and running the way I want it. I'm not going wipe it for a silly reason like proving myself wrong or right. That's your job.
If it works or not isn't the whole point of posting the video. Clearly it's not illegal to expose how to get around FRP. If it were, RootJunky would have been charged and his videos pulled.
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I have a problem with face unlock. It seems my phone thinks my friend looks like me and it unclocks my phone. We both have beards but dont look alike. With the fingerprint he cant unlock. Im using a silicone case but did the fix update
Tediberdyna said:
I have a problem with face unlock. It seems my phone thinks my friend looks like me and it unclocks my phone. We both have beards but dont look alike. With the fingerprint he cant unlock. Im using a silicone case but did the fix update
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It's not that he looks like you, but rather his face is overall similar as yours. Keep in mind the phone isn't looking for your face specifically, but rather one that overall looks like a 2D image it takes. This isn't like Iris scanning on other Galaxy phone's or the Iphone's 3D facial recognition...
If you read the notes when setting up facial recognition you should have seen that it is considered and labeled on the phone as a "less secure" method. Specifically that if someone looks like you they may be able to unlock the phone. It also states things like jewelry/facial hair/glasses/heavy makeup can cause recognition issues.
Tediberdyna said:
I have a problem with face unlock. It seems my phone thinks my friend looks like me and it unclocks my phone. We both have beards but dont look alike. With the fingerprint he cant unlock. Im using a silicone case but did the fix update
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Settings / Biometrics and security / Face recognition / uncheck faster recognition , and tell your friend to try it again !
pvillasuso said:
Settings / Biometrics and security / Face recognition / uncheck faster recognition , and tell your friend to try it again !
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Already did this. And he still can open it. It's a bit frustrating to honest. 1000$ should give you a very secure smartphone
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1000$ should give you a very secure smartphone
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They do, but keep in mind the phone is only as secure as the owner who is responsible for it.
Why not use the fingerprint sensor instead and solve the problem your having? Personally I find the fingerprint scanner to be quite easy to use.
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They do, but keep in mind the phone is only as secure as the owner who is responsible for it.
Why not use the fingerprint sensor instead and solve the problem your having? Personally I find the fingerprint scanner to be quite easy to use.
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I also use the fingerprint sensor , but because of my screen protector sometimes it doesn't work good. I will find a new screen protector. I managed o find a way to block my friend from opening the phone anyway. I removed my face data and then registred my face again in most well lit ambient and now it seems he can't do it anymore.
Tediberdyna said:
Already did this. And he still can open it. It's a bit frustrating to honest. 1000$ should give you a very secure smartphone
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and this is what you get for splashing out over a $1000 on a device..... samsung removed more secure systems in favour of less secure ones and call it "innovations"...... classic. .
There are several Youtube videos demonstrating how easy it is for someone else to access the device using just an image. .. i think the earlier people realise that 90% of these so called innovations are just marketing gimmicks robbing people of functionality and productivity on existing devices, the better for everyone.... ... guess another reason some of us will not be upgrading ... hardware or software....
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
niko26 said:
Removing face unlock is very uncomfortable
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Sometimes I still pick up my phone and stare at it like a complete idiot for a few seconds before I remember that it doesn't have face unlock
Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
It actually is the worst FPS ever! I just hope it's not a hardware issue and can be fixed by software
Try to just lay your finger on the scanner, ever so slightly, instead of pressing. Helped me.
I agree here, Faceunlock was beautiful. In an ideal world, we would have gotten Faceunlock AND fingerprint scanner (back).
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Well people wanted it for when wearing a mask but this FPS is a disgrace. It was quicker lowering my mask and using face unlock then this trash FPS. I'm sure it will improve in time but I'm also considering going to just a pin.
I really don't understand this company. They add and remove **** on every phone they release. Soli in then gone, squeeze in then gone, face ID in then gone. It's ridiculous. But hey...we have a curved screen lol.
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Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
Mine seems to be getting worse. 2 full seconds to register seems to be the average if it actually works the first time. About half the time it takes 2 or more tries. I'm coming from a scanner on a 5 year old phone that just works. I told myself I just needed to get used to it, but the opposite seems to be happening. The longer I own the phone, the more I just assume stuff will work, so I'm less careful with the FPR, etc.
Mine's erratic with performance all over the place. Sometimes it fails, sometimes it takes 3s to work, sometimes the screen stays blank until I use the power button.
nighthawk626 said:
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock considering that even the door to my house has a fingerprint reader. What are your thoughts on it?
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I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
niko26 said:
Worst decision... Curved screen. It adds nothing valuable!! It throws shadows. It makes it hard getting a proper screen protection. Useless. Absolutely.
FPS is a good idea - if added additionally to face unlock. Sigh.
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Exactly...well said
When the rumors were flying around about this phone months back and it was mentioned that 6pro might have a curved screen.... I cringed.
I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
gettinwicked said:
I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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Unsure if I will return my P6P. However, for my first in screen finger print reader, this can't be right.
The FPR is so fickle. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Agreed that if anyone spent any time with this phone, they would know to fix the FPR.
There are a few issues I hope Google can resolve soon: FPR, auto-brightness and antenna (if there is a software fix for antenna hanging on to weak 5G signals instead of moving to a stronger LTE when it is available).
yeah mine was returned yesterday back to ATT store for this same issue, used it one day and went back into the box most horrible FP I ever used, I had had to eat 55.00 restocking because of this crap oh well lesson learn!
Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
It's working very well for me but that's because my expectations aren't ultrasonic sensor ones. The accuracy has been very good but it's the speed that varies from pretty quick to 3/4 a second. Key thing is to press and hold until the haptics confirm or deny it. With that in mind I rarely get misses. Maybe a handful a day. Could it be better, sure, but it's not total trash.
gettinwicked said:
I've got about 5 or so days left to return. I'm seriously considering it. First time ever with a pixel phone.. I can't believe they actually moved forward with this FPS. It couldn't have worked much better while they were testing it? I'm on the pixel superfan page on FB. Every post someone makes about the FPS Google declines to post it. Instead, they've put those of us that did in a different, hidden thread to talk about it. It's effing BS. They're hiding it instead of acknowledging it and saying they'll fix it.
I did find something that helps, sort of. I read an article about folks who have the animations set to .5 were seeing a bug where the fingerprint was gone from the AOD/lockscreen. Setting it back to default fixed it. I had the same problem, so I changed it back. The fingerprint unlock is a lot more successful now. Still total garbage, but better. Hopefully this helps.
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That helped mine changing the animations then changing it back. Seems to be better, hope it lasts.
ilmar72 said:
I agree with you entirely. I was strongly considering returning this POS and jumping ship to iPhone. I think instead I'll keep it and trade it in on an s22 or something. Not sure I can deal with iOS either.
If i didn't break my p4 xl...I would absolutely have returned this as this is an inferior phone in every single aspect other than the camera
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Wow... You loose absolutely all credibility when you say the pixel 4 is "better in every aspect other than camera". That is just an idiotic comment. I understand you can't please everyone and there will always be a handful of people that'll complain, but come on... You are being absolutely ridiculous.
BTW, not understanding how y'all are having the negative experience. Been using fingerprint since day 1, and maybe had 1 or 2 times where I had to try a second time to unlock the phone. Only negative thing I can say is it does seem to be slightly slower than other fingerprint phones I've used before. I'm sure Google will address it or someone will modify the kernel source to improve the overall speed. It feels like people expect to be 100 percent satisfied in every aspect and if something only reaches 90 percent, their brains explode and the world is coming to an end!
If a slightly delayed (we're talking tenths of a second) fingerprint reader is such a deal breaker and calls for all this complaining, I can only imagine how y'all deal with everyday life. Just saying.
NUGZZ420 said:
Mine works just as good as any OnePlus phones I've had in the past few years
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Same here - my FPS is working just fine, maybe just a bit slower than the one I had on my OnePlus 7T Pro, but still nothing to complain about...
Fp working properly for me...