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Hd7 vs g2.

Hey well someone want to trade his hd7 for my g2 do you guys think its a good trade???
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If you want ****ty battery life. Sure. Go for it.
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luis86dr said:
If you want ****ty battery life. Sure. Go for it.
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the HD7's battery is not as ****ty as the media makes it out to be. I have an HD7 and it lasts just as long as my G2's. It's all about how you use your phone. Obviously if you sit there and dink around on it for no reason then the battery will drain. I get 18+ hours on both devices which is much more than I need. I say if you want to get an HD7, don't let anything stop you. It's a great phone.

You obviously dont know enough about either of the phones, or care about the android software.
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PatrickHuey said:
You obviously dont know enough about either of the phones, or care about the android software.
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thats why im just asking..

jboy15 said:
thats why im just asking..
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It really depends. The whole thing about windows 7 is to be simple, and get things done fast. In my opinion, take the fun out of a beautifully crafted phone. everything is pretty on there, but it depends what you're into. If you want to root, and hack away at the phone then go and check out the hd7 forums to find out more. the G2 runs android obviously and can be greatly custimized in many ways. Even without root, there is so much to do. let me ask you this, what phone did you have before you got the G2?
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PatrickHuey said:
It really depends. The whole thing about windows 7 is to be simple, and get things done fast. In my opinion, take the fun out of a beautifully crafted phone. everything is pretty on there, but it depends what you're into. If you want to root, and hack away at the phone then go and check out the hd7 forums to find out more. the G2 runs android obviously and can be greatly custimized in many ways. Even without root, there is so much to do. let me ask you this, what phone did you have before you got the G2?
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i had a vibrant.

jboy15 said:
i had a vibrant.
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Well what do you think about android?!
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it was good but then i just wanna try something new but what im worrying is that wp7 doesnt have that much apps.

The windows market has like 7500 apps compared to android 3mill or something like that to lazy to search it but yah and most the apps are paid on windows.

Find a US spec HD2. you can have the best of the HD7 by being able to run WP7 on it. and or switching to android. I have Both. An HD2 that runs and is recognized as an HD7, fully activated through Microsoft. And a new G2 that of course i could not leave stock for more than an hour. bottom line both are great phones. each serves its purpose. you will love or hate WP7. But With the HD2 you wont be stuck with it should u want android back. My G2 is my daily phone, and My HD2.7 is now a house, back up to my wife's modded HD2.7

I had the hd7 and although the functionability of the OS was nice, user customability is horrible. The battery was too.
If you want too try it by all means go ahead. Just know that the value of the hd7 is not desirable as the g2.
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Iphone beats all. Sorry.
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bstylz911 said:
Iphone beats all. Sorry.
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Android beats apple any day of the week.
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bstylz911 said:
Iphone beats all. Sorry.
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Can't tell if he's trolling or not...
inb4 I'm 12 and own a moto razr

TakoLuffer said:
The windows market has like 7500 apps compared to android 3mill or something like that to lazy to search it but yah and most the apps are paid on windows.
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There's definitely not that many android apps in the market...not saying there isn't going to be at some point..but that number is wrong. Haha.
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dietotherhythm said:
Can't tell if he's trolling or not...
inb4 I'm 12 and own a moto razr
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Iphone has so much more apps. And much more user friendly. And the processor is incredble. I'm not trying to hate android but I'm just giving my opinion.
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Android > Apple
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i planned to leave blackberry for the hd7 phone, i had no intrest in the g2, after falling in love with the hd7, i was ready to give tmo $200, then they told me the g2 would be free, i got it and never looked back at hd7 or blackberry.

bstylz911 said:
Iphone has so much more apps. And much more user friendly. And the processor is incredble. I'm not trying to hate android but I'm just giving my opinion.
what up trollm an
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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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/facepalm
Transmission sent from a Galaxy S II with XDA Premium.

Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Galaxy Nexus system dump

Someone plz port http://t.co/MagyJCbm ps plz stop the bickering I love TBD and TDJ both are great guys IMHO :b

+1 on this! Can it be done?
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+1 this will inevitably happen, and it will be..... AWESOME

I imagine getting this ported to the MT4G would be a LOT of work, especially considering the difference in display resolution and aspect ratio. Might be better to wait for the Nexus S ICS dump.

Hoping this + 4.0 SDK = success....this is probably one of the only times I owned a ****ty Samsung device lol.

If someone gets this fully working, I'll give em 20 bucks, straight up no bull****. Any takers?
Edit: offer retracted, on the account of bills to pay.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

rafyvito is working on a sdk port..

Yeah there's no way this will be fully working. It's just an SDK, which is mainly meant for app developers to ready their apps for ICS. I'm sure any Dev can make a ROM out of this, but almost everything will be broken and will be laggy as hell since they wont have the source for kernel or the right drivers.
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Yup, it probably would be a very similar port from Honeycomb but if you all remember we could never get that fully running and that was the SDK port as well. ICS source will be released though I'm sure

either most of developers are still sleeping or they still do not want to make any comment and promise just yet
i hope that there are still enough developers around for this phone. to buy new one is.. a bit tricky

I was gonna buy the iPhone 4S next month but I'll happily stay if this gets ported.
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You probably won't see anyone working on this since it has been announced that ICS source code will be released a couple weeks after the Galaxy Nexus ships. Once we see source, the build of AOSP ROMS will follow very quickly I suspect.

betin50 said:
I was gonna buy the iPhone 4S next month but I'll happily stay if this gets ported.
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You can't do anything with a SDK really..

thederekjay said:
You can't do anything with a SDK really..
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He Speaks. We patiently wait.
OFF TOPIC: DAM THE NEW MIUI BUILD DRASTICALLY IMPROVED WIFI
Ok, back to waiting
<meditates> "oooohhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm"

Is that system dump an this
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The correct link http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
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The same ones? If so, sorry for a useless post. Find this by looking around the site
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

ayamjago said:
either most of developers are still sleeping or they still do not want to make any comment and promise just yet
i hope that there are still enough developers around for this phone. to buy new one is.. a bit tricky
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lol be patient man.

It all depends on any dev's interest in the project, if there's other ROM's out for the device that are pretty much the same thing then there's not much more you can do with the work.
Personally I think the more that's out the better but it's all up to who's interested.

Just read rafys Twitter and I think he's gonna take it on but he's waiting for the code to be released. The SDK will just make it incomplete and not fully functional.
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quick question

so i just recently updated to android(ET4G) from windows (my HTC TOUCHPRO 2..which i loved!)...my ET4G is amazing but i cant help but look at bigger and better(the SAMSUNG NOTE looks tiiight!but i dnt think sprint is gonna pick it up..)..alls i'm seeing now is ics stuff and i wanted to look at somethin different so i recently tried the 7launcher(it was ok) but it made me wonder about the whole windows7 os and made me wonder why i havnt seen nor heard much about it since its launch.i think sprint only picked up one windows7 phone and it kinda sucked...are there any ports or roms that we can try on the ET4G?

ling4383 said:
so i just recently updated to android(ET4G) from windows (my HTC TOUCHPRO 2..which i loved!)...my ET4G is amazing but i cant help but look at bigger and better(the SAMSUNG NOTE looks tiiight!but i dnt think sprint is gonna pick it up..)..alls i'm seeing now is ics stuff and i wanted to look at somethin different so i recently tried the 7launcher(it was ok) but it made me wonder about the whole windows7 os and made me wonder why i havnt seen nor heard much about it since its launch.i think sprint only picked up one windows7 phone and it kinda sucked...are there any ports or roms that we can try on the ET4G?
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Wait. You want to run win mo7 on your epic touch?
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Windows Phone 7 is closed source and will definitely not be ported. It's a cool OS but the support just isn't there. Launcher7 is your closest substitute.
I personally would like to try a Nokia WP7 device, if Sprint picks up any I'll definitely try one out.
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Anyway welcome to the forum!
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Id like to try a WP7 phone as well, but not enough to use an upgrade or invest any money into it. I dont know anybody who uses one either.

LOL...yeah thought i'd try it on my et4g...(i know it sounds silly right?haha)..just a lil ICS'D out..its everywhere!!!as anxious as i was for the official release i'm gettin my fill with all the cool ics roms that when the release actually does come out i'll be looking for somethin new...played with the ARRIVE at best buy and the OS looked pretty cool but i was told the actual phone wasnt very good...anyways thanks for the quick replies!and thanks for welcoming me to the family!

This might be your best bet. To wait on the Sprint release of a windows phone.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/20/sprint-LTE-windows-phone-8-rumor/

ling4383 said:
LOL...yeah thought i'd try it on my et4g...(i know it sounds silly right?haha)..just a lil ICS'D out..its everywhere!!!as anxious as i was for the official release i'm gettin my fill with all the cool ics roms that when the release actually does come out i'll be looking for somethin new...played with the ARRIVE at best buy and the OS looked pretty cool but i was told the actual phone wasnt very good...anyways thanks for the quick replies!and thanks for welcoming me to the family!
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Nah its not silly. I like to play around with different things just for fun. Tinkering is a life style. Don't ever be ashamed of it
People will make fun of you, but that just means they don't understand. I would run wp7 on this phone if I could just for the fun of it.
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just youtubed windows phone 8...looks a lil more colorful but i dont see much of a difference from wp7....thanks for the post thow(i had no idea)...and [email protected] LordJummy...i'm always on my phone..i switch up themes all the time!my gf calls me a phone geek,the funny thing is she just themed her phone for the 1st time a couple of weeks ago and i caught her surfing xda looking at themes just the other day!

ling4383 said:
just youtubed windows phone 8...looks a lil more colorful but i dont see much of a difference from wp7....thanks for the post thow(i had no idea)...and [email protected] LordJummy...i'm always on my phone..i switch up themes all the time!my gf calls me a phone geek,the funny thing is she just themed her phone for the 1st time a couple of weeks ago and i caught her surfing xda looking at themes just the other day!
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If I'm not messing with my phones then you can rest assured I'm playing with my computers
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Oppo N1 CM version ordered

So I just ordered the limited CM edition of the Oppo N1, to replace this Xperia Z(with its busted camera) It comes with a really cool CM cyan colored case, and some CM stickers.
Only thing is that the CM version is only available in the 16gb flavor, which i kind of regret ordering cause i prefer to have at least 32gb of space.
Also there doesnt seem to be too much activity in these fourms yet. (The phone is still really new so its to be expected) But do you guys think there will be a lot of custom ROM development for this phone? installing custom roms is another reason i bought this phone, since my current android has a locked bootloader.
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If any of the major carriers picks up the N1, I'm sure that we'll see a lot of attention here because of having official CM.
This should being a lot of devs to the phone though, just because of how open to development the phone is. I hope to see it really take off and be made into something really great.
I don't really know about custom roms though. We already have official CM and Omnirom. Then there's Oppo's ColorOS which is pretty good already. I think all that we'll really see is modifications to those environments, but nothing really unique (I hope I'm wrong about that). Only time will tell though.
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Harfainx said:
If any of the major carriers picks up the N1, I'm sure that we'll see a lot of attention here because of having official CM.
This should being a lot of devs to the phone though, just because of how open to development the phone is. I hope to see it really take off and be made into something really great.
I don't really know about custom roms though. We already have official CM and Omnirom. Then there's Oppo's ColorOS which is pretty good already. I think all that we'll really see is modifications to those environments, but nothing really unique (I hope I'm wrong about that). Only time will tell though.
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Chance of any major carrier in the US picking up the N1 are slim to none - just because US carriers SUCK.
Thanks to Oppo's cooperation with the community, there's going to be much better support from custom firmwares than with most other devices.
A lot of the activity is over on oppoforums - While I usually prefer to keep all of my work on XDA and don't bother with any other sites, oppoforums is the exception as they are the official forums of the manufacturer (they are not just random fan forums) and as Oppo has been so supportive of many of us, quite a few developers spend lots of time there. (Maxwen himself only maintains threads there these days.)

I would at least like to think that the US carriers would take an example from oppo and embrace what a lot of the devs here are doing. It would also be nice to see some of the phone makers keep their boot loaders un locked as well. But wish in one hand....

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I would at least like to think that the US carriers would take an example from oppo and embrace what a lot of the devs here are doing. It would also be nice to see some of the phone makers keep their boot loaders un locked as well. But wish in one hand....
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Yeah that's not going to happen. Out of the major carriers Verizon has been the ballsy one to release a developer phone with unlocked bootlooaders. They don't release devices because they don't want to have to send out warranty replacements for people who brick devices.
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Prime said:
Yeah that's not going to happen. Out of the major carriers Verizon has been the ballsy one to release a developer phone with unlocked bootlooaders. They don't release devices because they don't want to have to send out warranty replacements for people who brick devices.
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You forget that they only did that because they were forcing devices from OEMs that previously had never locked their devices to lock them down.
AT&T also is now forcing bootloader locking - and as a result HTC now offers the GPe and Dev Edition One units. T-Mobile is forcing Sony to lock down the T-Mobile Xperia Z (not very "uncarrier" of them...). Unlike VZW, HTC can do it directly for people on AT&T and T-Mo since both carriers are GSM - stick your SIM into an unlocked device and go, as opposed to Verizon who make it a nightmare to activate non-VZW devices.
People on GSM providers are lucky in that they can purchase unlocked devices and use them. (N1 plus Straight Talk would be a great combo.)

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N1 plus Straight Talk would be a great combo
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That's exactly what I'm using. AT&T Sim on Straight Talk. I just had to refill my monthly payment last week. I think I got it like November 18th and haven't had any problems so far. :highfive:

Cool thx for the info. Ive been checking out the oppo fourms now. Has anyone adjusted their dpi settings yet to make it more tablet like? this is what id like to do once i get my order.
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neovalkyr said:
So I just ordered the limited CM edition of the Oppo N1, to replace this Xperia Z(with its busted camera) It comes with a really cool CM cyan colored case, and some CM stickers.
Only thing is that the CM version is only available in the 16gb flavor, which i kind of regret ordering cause i prefer to have at least 32gb of space.
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That is the ONLY thing that has kept me from ordering a CM edition right now-- a 32GB version paid and on the way to me.
Alas, should have haunted CM and bought when it came out.

Yah i probably should have cancelled it and got the 32gb one. DHL says my cm edition will be here tomorrow though, i cant wait
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neovalkyr said:
Cool thx for the info. Ive been checking out the oppo fourms now. Has anyone adjusted their dpi settings yet to make it more tablet like? this is what id like to do once i get my order.
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I have scaled mine on color os. It's really easy to do but I had to add the build.prop line in cause it wasn't in there to begin with. Might be on cm though. I did notice 480 changed nothing, but going down to 400 looks great.
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trialsrider1 said:
I have scaled mine on color os. It's really easy to do but I had to add the build.prop line in cause it wasn't in there to begin with. Might be on cm though. I did notice 480 changed nothing, but going down to 400 looks great.
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Are there any issues with the color os apps after changing dpi? No force close or anything?
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iqbalaydrus said:
Are there any issues with the color os apps after changing dpi? No force close or anything?
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I haven't noticed anything from the DPI change. I switched to omni to try it out just after though, but no weird graphic issues I had noticed.
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I just got my CM N1 yesterday and so far I'm loving it. It came with two cases surprisingly, the foldover type and the CM one. I kind of want to change the dpi settings but ive never altered the build prop file before, I'll try figuring it out.
Best thing about this phone that no one really mentioned yet is that the phone doesnt get hot the way my other phones have duribg extensive gaming sessions. Love the battery life so far.
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Where to buy
Where can I buy OPPO N1 Cyanogenmood Edition in Europe ? Thanks.