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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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[Q] Galaxy s II or not?

Hello All,
I’m seriously thinking of selling this phone and going to an HTC Sensation. My main reason is ROM support. We really have a few ROMs and all are really the same Stock with modifications and different themes and colors.
However with the HTC sensation, there is Ice cream, MIUI, ice-cream sense, etc. basically many more options.
I was so pumped to get this phone at the time I sold my HTC sensation but I find myself checking the Development threads ever hour, daily for a miracle. I don’t think Santa is coming.
I know I’m going to hear it but give it to me everyone, Should I sale or wait? I’m on the ropes.
Thanks
24bronco

Cya
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Wait, there's loads of aosp/ aokp roms that are nearly finished. Just waiting for kernel sources. You'd be mad to get rid now its just starting to get exciting.
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Hi,
Yes I have the Sensation, well the XE, and I would have this phone over the GSII anyday. The specs of these phones are similar, but the sensation has more in resolution. Also I use ICS as the only rom. I might try Sense 3.6. Also the Sensation may get a port of HTC sense 4.0. So get the Sensation
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weeo said:
Hi,
Yes I have the Sensation, well the XE, and I would have this phone over the GSII anyday. The specs of these phones are similar, but the sensation has more in resolution. Also I use ICS as the only rom. I might try Sense 3.6. Also the Sensation may get a port of HTC sense 4.0. So get the Sensation
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Exactly, I feel Like im missing out on the Ice cream ROMs. and further developments with it.
Thanks'

tango280581 said:
Wait, there's loads of aosp/ aokp roms that are nearly finished. Just waiting for kernel sources. You'd be mad to get rid now its just starting to get exciting.
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So your saying that, I should wait because things are in the work. I just read that Cyanogen will not support our phone for his new new ROM. is this true?

tango280581 said:
Wait, there's loads of aosp/ aokp roms that are nearly finished. Just waiting for kernel sources. You'd be mad to get rid now its just starting to get exciting.
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Yo, you have the i9100 , we have the. T989. Nothing the same, why you here anyways?

Just get the sensation if thats what makes you happy.

24bronco said:
So your saying that, I should wait because things are in the work. I just read that Cyanogen will not support our phone for his new new ROM. is this true?
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Hm. Let me see this. But we have other good devs. Either way we will still get a AOSP ICS ROM with maybe CM features, or others that can conpensate for it. And Sense is pretty!!! I would stick with HTC. And from a non developers POV (lulz) The HTC has nice Build Quality.

24bronco said:
Hello All,
I’m seriously thinking of selling this phone and going to an HTC Sensation. My main reason is ROM support. We really have a few ROMs and all are really the same Stock with modifications and different themes and colors.
However with the HTC sensation, there is Ice cream, MIUI, ice-cream sense, etc. basically many more options.
I was so pumped to get this phone at the time I sold my HTC sensation but I find myself checking the Development threads ever hour, daily for a miracle. I don’t think Santa is coming.
I know I’m going to hear it but give it to me everyone, Should I sale or wait? I’m on the ropes.
Thanks
24bronco
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Keep it. As soon as CM9 comes for our device with the sources available, the ROMs will 'skyrocket' (No pun intended) It's just about to get interesting.

Dude why are you in. the t989 forum our phones are not the same...even if we got ics tomorrow wouldn't do you bit of good
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alphadog32 said:
Yo, you have the i9100 , we have the. T989. Nothing the same, why you here anyways?
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Edited, see next post.

KonstantinKeller said:
Keep it. As soon as CM9 comes for our device with the sources available, the ROMs will 'skyrocket' (No pun intended) It's just about to get interesting.
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Thanks, I guess but CM9 is months away im sure..

24bronco said:
Thanks, I guess but CM9 is months away im sure..
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Still, if you move, you'll regret it sooner or later.

KonstantinKeller said:
Still, if you move, you'll regret it sooner or later.
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Exaclty, Thats how Im feeling now with the Sensation. I had it and then moved and got this phone. Now Im debating to get rid or this and go back to the Sensation. I mean dont get me wrong. I love how the hone looks,white Galaxy, Im glad to have it. But I would rather have an ugly looking phone with great software.

I asked the same question when I first got this phone, but I realized the limited roms we do have does our phone justice, although I do wish we have the i9100 dev support, anyway this phone over any HTC phone, besides the one series
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relldroid said:
I asked the same question when I first got this phone, but I realized the limited roms we do have does our phone justice, although I do wish we have the i9100 dev support, anyway this phone over any HTC phone, besides the one series
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I agree, Im running Juggernaught new 5.0 Rom and cant complain one bit about it but, Im already stuck with the wife. I just kinda wish with my phone, I can cheat a bit..haha' and Flash more Roms. You know, Have different flavors...Not just be limited to a one or two ROMS and waiting for updates checking daily at the Devs mercy. And I know someone is going to say it, "START Deving Myself"....and thats why im asking about Sensation Phone that has more ROM support....

24bronco said:
Exaclty, Thats how Im feeling now with the Sensation. I had it and then moved and got this phone. Now Im debating to get rid or this and go back to the Sensation. I mean dont get me wrong. I love how the hone looks,white Galaxy, Im glad to have it. But I would rather have an ugly looking phone with great software.
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Stay with it. It'll have great ROM support soon. The reason we have little ROMs is because people are getting bored of Gingerbread, and are waiting for ICS to be released. Then there will be tons of ROMs! Great for flashaholics like me

I came from an HTC sensation ... And i can tell you that the galaxy s2 is a better phone and much faster ....
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KonstantinKeller said:
Stay with it. It'll have great ROM support soon. The reason we have little ROMs is because people are getting bored of Gingerbread, and are waiting for ICS to be released. Then there will be tons of ROMs! Great for flashaholics like me
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Im a flashaholic too but there's nothing to flash, How are you getting your fix? what ROms are you flashing weekly?

Can I have my jellybeans and eat them too?!

First off, I would just like to thank all the devs who have worked like mad men on giving all us dinc users some delicious Ice Cream Sandwich, for without your amazing work I surely would have thrown my phone in a fit of rage into a wall a loooong time ago. Now, even though there's no official word yet, until later this morning , I think it's safe to assume that Jellybean will end up being named Android OS 4.1 instead of 5.0 (ICS, but with improvements). With all of this in mind, is it possible that we could actually get some JB love? I understand that we'll have to wait until they release the source code to know for sure, but with what we've heard so far it sounds like it actually could be possible. Idk, am I just missing something obvious here?
P.S. I'm asking this mostly because I'm trying to get my posts # up (I'm new here, be nice), although I'd love if we could entertain this thought for a moment. I think I only have like 2 posts so far (cuz I ACTUALLY search for stuff, WOW!!!!) so bear with me, please and thank you!

I'm planning on making android 4.1 available on this phone.
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Huzzah! Can't wait
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Just ordered my Nexus 7 so if nothing else, I'll still have my fill of jellybeans

Albinoman said:
I'm planning on making android 4.1 available on this phone.
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This is great news! I heard about google announcing JB today so I am very excited about ROMs making it to the OG incredible, I still have it for another year almost haha

nschiwy said:
This is great news! I heard about google announcing JB today so I am very excited about ROMs making it to the OG incredible, I still have it for another year almost haha
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Ya it is! I have a year left as well so I definitely want jb.
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rickyg946 said:
Just ordered my Nexus 7 so if nothing else, I'll still have my fill of jellybeans
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Me too!

If all goes according to plan I'll be using a GSIII and eventually Jelly Bean. I gotta admit, I liked the polish and new features of JB announced today.

Guys I am currently porting jellybean to this device.
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Albinoman said:
Guys I am currently porting jellybean to this device.
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How? It hasn't even been released to AOSP yet.

computerwiz908 said:
How? It hasn't even been released to AOSP yet.
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By using the system dump. We got it to the boot animation.

^ Exactly!
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Wow, you guys are relentless, haha!
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My only concern is battery life, its unfortunate ICS loves to eat our battery like the cookie monsta.
I know for a fact we can get it running, why?
Because of the determination our lasting devs have. I mean I never thought I'd see sense 4 on the DInc, even ICS.. working completely fine now.
It's amazing and we thank all who do this in the DInc projects.
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This is truly the phone that will never die. Huge thanks to all the devs who work to keep this phone running the latest and greatest! I'll still be on this phone for another month (preordered my SIII) and I bet I'll have stable JellyBean before the end of it. Simply amazing. You guys rock!

Albinoman and PureMotive <- Porting Gurus! Thank you for all the work you've done for the Incredible. Keep up the good work!
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This is great news.
However, seeing as ICS already pushes our poor little GPU to its limits, how will Project Butter and all the triple buffering and good business affect us?

liuzerus87 said:
This is great news.
However, seeing as ICS already pushes our poor little GPU to its limits, how will Project Butter and all the triple buffering and good business affect us?
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From what ive seen ics doesn't really push our GPU or CPU that hard. I think our phones should run it great.

Man, this is really awesome! I'd love to get this thing on my Incredible, and would love to help on getting his working! I'm just done my freshman year as a computer science major, and I'm pretty amateur, but maybe I'll dig in wherever I can :-D

Wow. I am so glad I picked the Incredible way back in the day.

Will JB be 100% working for our phone when the tools are released?

At the IO google said that they would release JB developer tools for JB. So will we have the full potential of 4.1 JB?
I ask this because JB probably won't be released (offically) for our phone.
PS: do you think the performance boosts of JB will have an significant effect on our phone? It seemed to on the nexus.

Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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AJGO23 said:
Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
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Linch89 said:
I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
I just saved 15% by switching to Geico
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You sir win the Internet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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AJGO23 said:
And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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litetaker said:
Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference.
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Its been clarified by reps at both HTC and VZW that what they meant was that the date is to be decided but that we will have it by the end of August. Take that for what you will, as I don't believe there has been anything official that clarifies this. I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
Back to the OP's question, I highly doubt that we will have a 100% working JB rom anytime soon considering we still have issues on ALL of our ICS roms. Once we have official ICS our awesome dev's will probably be able to get JB working well pretty quickly.
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cstone1991 said:
I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
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HTC has to release kernel source regardless because of the Chinese OTA they released. It might be as late as October, but they have to release it regardless or else they'd be in violation of some law that has an acronym I can't remember.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this

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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this
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I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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Just stop while you're ahead.
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AJGO23 said:
They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc... And once we get a hand on our kernel source, I believe devs will be knee deep in Jellybean goodness... The main reason why I am looking forward for the OTA is for the kernel source... Hell no I am going to go stock.. Once the kernel is up, I am gonna go with Nits' Sense 4 ROM!
The To be determined thing is crappy of them... They say on their FB page that the "Release Date" is the thing to be determined, NOT whether it gets ICS or not... which makes sense given it is in the table of release dates and given they previously confirmed to give it ICS... anyway, time will tell... No breaking my head on this...
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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
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45/7 > 1 !!!
You used more brain power than you HAVE!! Hope you didn't burn out and fuse your brain... We need you for the Sense 4a ROM...

litetaker said:
OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc...
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We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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joefrog1996 said:
We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.

Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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litetaker said:
Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.
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In my experience it was bugless (IC 3.6) although it was laggy. It was laggy in the wrong places (homescreen, and scrolling through certain apps) and smooth in the wrong places (app drawer, GP, settings).
You need to check it out
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AJGO23 said:
Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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I agree, there were a few things that happened recently that have gotten us excited..... (The S getting ICS and JB)....... but we need to chill out. And in the mean time enjoy what we DO have, and not think about what we don't and might not get.
Funny thing is this thread only exists becuase of the recent changes.
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Any one else think that.....

Along with the bogo sale on our phones that should also release ics for our phones? They would probably sell allot more, and we finally get source so we can fix the emmc bug. Win win for everyone
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NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!

dw3bb10 said:
NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!
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Hahahaha, sorry, but that's a skilled response.
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dw3bb10 said:
NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!
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+1 for this, sprint understands its consumers and knows updates just scare and confuse us... its like unlimited data with them, they call it unlimited because if you,like me, live in a market without 4g it would take several months if not years to use 5gigs of data with their current 3g "speeds"... sprint is the best!
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it seems some people may have taken my my remarks seriously? I was continuing in the satire (or what I assumed to be satire) of the post i was referencing.... of course i want ICS released, it could be so buggy it catches fire and abuses your pets for all i care, as long as the devs have access to the source in order to make the roms we actually use (you know, not stock...) better!

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NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!
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I'm sorry OP but I'm gonna have to agree with this fellow. The bugs aren't gone yet and as it has been said numerous times it doesn't make sense.
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nthornton1990 said:
I'm sorry OP but I'm gonna have to agree with this fellow. The bugs aren't gone yet and as it has been said numerous times it doesn't make sense.
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If you're waiting for a total bug-free release then you'll be waiting until the end of time. They will release it when they are ready and, steady yourselves, it will probably have a few remaining, minor issues which they will attempt to fix with a patch.
Seriously it makes me chuckle to see people rubbing their palms together waiting for the perfect, bug-free release of any software.

Here's hoping it comes out soon - but based on the release date and usual one month delay we're still about 1-2 weeks away if they use FF18 as the OTA.

Esoteric68 said:
If you're waiting for a total bug-free release then you'll be waiting until the end of time. They will release it when they are ready and, steady yourselves, it will probably have a few remaining, minor issues which they will attempt to fix with a patch.
Seriously it makes me chuckle to see people rubbing their palms together waiting for the perfect, bug-free release of any software.
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Oh I'm not expecting perfection. Although I would like to see equivalent battery life and equal if not better speed. I'm totally content with the way things are now with ics except for the battery life. That's it.
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nthornton1990 said:
Oh I'm not expecting perfection. Although I would like to see equivalent battery life and equal if not better speed. I'm totally content with the way things are now with ics except for the battery life. That's it.
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You need a better ROM I get incredible battery life, as good as if not better than I ever got on GB.
But here's hoping the release is as bug free as possible!

Screw ics I want jelly bean!
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gatesmarch123 said:
Screw ics I want jelly bean!
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Once ICS source is released JB will be pretty easy to port to the et4g especially once JB source is out, they run pretty much the same kernel only major changes were to framework and resources and some lib and bin files, nothing to the extreme like going from GB to ICS
Edit: by JB source I mean rom source from Google not kernel source, just thought I should clarify that after re-reading what I said
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dw3bb10 said:
NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!
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I see what you did there.
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry