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CAN IT BE UPGRADED TO WINDOWS MOBILE??
does it support windows mobile to be installed on it??
Even if it's possible, I don't think "upgrading" is the correct term.
he might means wp7S
Why would you buy a brand new Android phone and even want to change the OS - astounded!!
I think he means "porting" to WM. I am also wondering if this would be possible to port to WM7S with this device, although, strict hardware chassis requirements would be required (Back, Start and Search button on all Windows Phone 7 Series devices).
I didnt think it was possible to run WM on an android phone, i always thought that android on WM was only possible
Currently, there is no way of installing Windows Mobile on any Android phone
But you can install Android on Windows Mobile on selected devices.
Porting WP7 to the desire would be a downgrade, not an upgrade. WP7 is going to be even more watered down than the iPhone OS, and a trident based web browser... no thanks
Oh dear, getting deja vu feelings here. Let's say it's a recurring topic when new Android devices come out And every time the replies are about the same lol
WP7 offers classic mode
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
crasher said:
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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WINE exists for desktop linux but it's been developed on for years. I'm sure something is possible it's just a case of who would want to adopt and code such a product. And anyway, I think if something was attempted it would be to emulate iPhone apps on Android not WM apps.
I couldn't believe the title of this thread. WHY would anyone want to do this ?
Stick to Android. It will fair you well.
easy
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
Upgraded?!?
Windows Mobile is dead and Windows Phone 7 sucks balls, it's worse than iPhone OS.
Nice reactions to Windows Mobile!
I only had wm5 on an old mda compact ii, just got my desire with android and OMG, who would ever take android off their phone? !
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Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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LMFAO!!
At least there wasn't any flaming of the OP this time....
Why would you want to port winmo-CRAP to an android phone like the HTC Desire ???????????????????/
While I'm not a fan of microsoft in general, I have a Topaz presently and I do like both the phone and the HTC Sense/TF3D interface. I also have a collection of apps that I've grown quite fond of, apps that AFAIK don't have any Android counterparts.
In fact, the only things I'd like to improve on the Topaz is a slightly larger screen and much faster CPU. If I could have the Desire with winmo 6.5 or 6.5.x this would fit the bill perfectly.
I know of the supposed HTC Obsession/Diamond 3, but it's supposed to run WP7 and with the kind of functionality sacrifices that means (copy/paste, multitasking, no 3rp party UIs/skins) I'm not tempted.
Each to their own, live and let live. Just because you don't understand why, doesn't make it wrong.
Why on earth would anyone want to install WM on the Desire??
I think its possible like some of the members said, using WINE or something, but i doubt that anyone would be interested (maybe just for experimental purposes)
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Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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Made my day!
Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
Thanks.
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are you winding me up?
Why would you want to do that - i dont think its possible, and im sure someone will back me up
I'm sure after much development it could be done but most people here won't get close to windows mobile with a stick!!!!! I think most of us are running away from it, so yes, it can probably done but no, it's not likely anybody is going to do it!
Okay lol, Does anyone know whats the best Modded rom i can port to my Desire? please provide links
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
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Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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If you wanted to run WM you should have probably just bought yourself an HTC HD2 instead.
Windows mobile on desire might sound stupid but....
I was wondering about the same... I have quite a few apps for windows mobile and work email sync on windows mobile is so great - those two things combined made me wonder, maybe I can run WM on this great device?
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
Why ask the same question every 2 weeks creating new thread with same discussions?
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So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
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I'm afraid it is, because it gets asked with alarming regularity and each time it is met with the same derision.
The simple fact of the matter is that most of the people who have the necessary skills to port WinMo to an Android probably bought one to get away from WinMo in the first place.
In addition, it's far easier to port Android to a WinMo phone because Android is open source.
Regards,
Dave
What if everything is erased... kernel, android rom etc.... then install windows mobile on the desire? is it possible? Some people are not running away from it lol like me XD.
I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
tuatha said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
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Oh yeah I would love Windows 3.1 :'( :'( lol
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Since when are phones just like computers? Yes these are smart phones and you can get "software" for them, but they are still integrated systems. Here, if it's JUST like your computer add more RAM. Upgrade the processor. Get a better GPU for it. You can't...it's NOT a computer in the sense you think.
If I want a Linux computer I buy one, if I want Windows then I'm a fool for buying the Linux system and vice-versa. These phones are now just a couple of hardware buttons and a screen. The difference is mostly software so buying an android phone when you really want WM is just plain dumb.
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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It's nowhere near as easy as just wiping the device's ROM and flashing some generic WM ROM, you'd bump into all kinds of conflicts. You'd need device drivers for your specific set of hardware, which are mostly available only to the manufacturers and more than often only come for the O/S iteration the manufacturer designed the phone around.
Seriously, you're way better off selling your Desire for a original WM phone.
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Linux and Windows come with drivers for all sorts of hardware. In addition, if they are not on your installation media, you can usually download and install them.
To get WinMo on the Desire, you're going to need the drivers for the hardware. Some might exist, some might not - the problem is getting them an integrating it into a ROM.
Chances are that even if you could do it, it would be a suboptimal solution - if you want to run WinMo, buy a WinMo device.
Regards,
Dave
I guess it's only a matter of time before our phones start running multiple operating systems simultaneously within a virtual machine.
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
Nope. Not possible.
Why would you expect your customers to hack their devices to install WM 6.5 just to run your company's software (which would kill their warranty for the device) even if it was possible?
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
People seem to think phones are like PCs... They aren't.
Downgrading is easy. Bring the WP7 devices back and get HD2s or Tilts/TouchPro's, etc. Samsung Jacks or Epix if you're into that formfactor.
I would never expect anyone to do this on my request
it was actulaly the client that asked me My only reply was that I would look into it
regards Christian Andersen
Its not possible but on the bright side, there will be a big update in Jan
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Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
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why are you dropping support for 6.5? and why not make a wp7 port, from what I've heard, it's not that hard.
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
tboy2000 said:
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
Martice said:
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
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sorry but these were only rumoured and as you can already see, the htc trophy is now the HTC 7 Trophy...
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
Fa310tx said:
I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
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Touch control are koo but arent a good replacement for d-pads imo...mainly for games. Maybe one day some finds a way to have a slider cell that has dedicated game keys like a psp & physical kb like the tp2.
candersen said:
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
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I'm guessing you've done 0 development on WP7?
candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
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HTC support said it would be possible.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
nurps said:
For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
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then get a mytouch 4g....
Doesnt have a keyboard.
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Doesnt have a keyboard.
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I meant the g2...
hi all,
I read this thread just now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857188
I wanna talk about the same thing but that thread has been closed.
According to some website, I found both G10 and iPhone4 are based on ARM architecture. I have use IDA to analyse some files in iOS 4.2.1 update packages and I found it use ARM7 instruction set. So I think there is still some possibility to port iOS kernel to G10. Is there anyone who also interested on this? Could you tell me something useful about this project? Thanks a lot.
BTW: If you think this post makes no means, please do not laugh at me as the guys who has done this in the thread above. I only talk about my idea. Although this idea maybe impossible to be implemented. I hope you can give me some adivse, information or others, not your ridicule. Thanks in advance.
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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I just discuss about the possibility and gather information about this. So, do not suggest me to buy a iPhone. BTW: I'd like to buy a iPad2 when it released.
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Nowadays Android can run well on iPhone. So why not try to port iOS to Android phone?
I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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hmm... Resolution is a issue only for application developers... It should not be a problem for kernel porting I think.
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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Yes. To driver the peripheral device, we have to write all the driver or at least, modify the original driver. Without the source code, this would be too hard.
BTW: Is it possible for us to port xnu(or the kernel of mac os x) to ARM platform just as iOS do?
And why would you want to
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you don't have iOS source right, you will have to disassemble and go thorugh lots of code, replace a lot of things, then fix so that every thing works in a flow..
This will take years! with no assurance of success again. you may also have to find security holes in iOS again to load it on a different phone.
If you had the source then few months!
Not to mention a possible law suit from Apple.
Hi folks.....it s possible have dualboot on DHD?how to install win7 on DHD? It s possible porting os6 of blackberry on DHD or HD2? thanks.....
^^^^ no its not possible right to put up Win7 on DHD! don't think anybody is going to work on that also.
But Win7 is ported to HD2, or not? Correct me, if i'm wrong. And if it's ported to HD2, it should be possible to port it to the DHD.
I think the problem is only the boot not the porting....because on the HD2 is possible load win7, linux, winxp, android, ecc ecc.....
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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Ok,epic!
Anyway,why would anyone want iOS?I find it pure bs.But even if there was a way and a reason,would porting it be important enough to put you against Apple?Because,and excuse me everyone for the language I use,the bastards over at apple can sue you for naming a product with an "i" in front!
So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Please search before you post next time. This question is literally asked on every board for every new device. Theoretically Yes it is possible but reality is no dev would do it because they would get sued into oblivion by Microsoft. Windows is not open sourced like ubuntu or android. In order to port windows over legally they would have to get a license to port him and pay royalties to MS
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Not even possible. Windows RT has specific bootloader hardware requirements (I forget its name) add to that it is not open source so would need to be hacked together. You might be able to get windows phone to work but again, not open source so lawsuits would ensue.
On a side note why would you want windows rt on here? Windows RT is useless, cant run normal windows apps, and windows staore has less apps then android. Windows is going to release office for android next uear ( or so they claim) so not much need for windows RT on the Note 2.
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The only time i've ever heard about Microsofts latest OS's getting ported to a non approved device was the HD2, and as far as I'm aware nobody is getting sued over there. And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
If it could be ported to an android device it will probably be done. but it will need to run the exact same hardware. and even then i still doubt it will happen.
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And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
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The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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Indeed. Similar to this was the Toshiba TG01, which also runs WP7. It is a native WM6 device with a 1GHz CPU, 512MB ROM, and 256MB RAM.
Thanks for the replies guys. I appreciated the useful information. Oh, and I did do a search.. There was nothing in this forum in reference to W8 being put onto this device. Sorry if I offended.