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THIS IS NEW Universal Unlocking thread with a SOLUTION.
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But don't forget mamaich and the others...as mentioned..
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of course,
MANY MANY MANY and MANY THANXS to:
mamaich
for his great finding, which makes this come true.
Everyone please praise mamaich!
itsme
for his wonderfull scripts and efforts put into researching
arc
for providing very special tools and interesting stuff
vijay555
for his constant support on anything
and for being my spokesman ))
machinagod
for providing usefull stuff and info
mwang
for donating Universal device to me and other support
and all of you guys for being patient )))
THANX
buzz
PS.: some kind of ehm... 'very special thanks' to v4victory )))
and to other guys, who call us begging muppets
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buzz the man
only one thing i can say....Buzz is the Man!
offcourse the others also!
donate so Buzz can buy a new centrino or something like that!!!!
OK Buzz hope to test the program as soon as possible thanks!!!!
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surinamer123 said:
only one thing i can say....Buzz is the Man!
offcourse the others also!
donate so Buzz can buy a new centrino or something like that!!!!
OK Buzz hope to test the program as soon as possible thanks!!!!
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Agree, have already donated, but a Centrino Duo would be better!
How to donate buzz-team? On His webside?
macpier said:
How to donate buzz-team? On His webside?
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buzzdev.net
There is a donate link on the page.
Centrino ?
Are you guys sure that buzz will buy a new centrino notebook with the donated money rather than spending the money on crack ?
greetz
So....
Just came back on the site and it looks like Buzz and Mamaich have hit the jackpot - however not sure on where in the trail the description of what to do is ? Looked on Buzzdev.net and doesn´t look like it´s there yet.
Buzz - will send you some money via your site when I´m back UK side (in sunny Barcelona right now)...
In the meantime - I have a business contract with Vodafone UK and as I had a German QTEC to unlock they recently offered to unlock a UK Vodafone QTEC free - they couldnt unlock a German one - so in the short term if anyone wants a UK Vodafone QTEC unlocked I´d be happy to try...Private email me if you want it done......FOC - first come first served as I can probs only get this done once.....
Cheers
Do we have a new time & date for release ?, I understand everyone has worked hard to get to this point, what is left to be done ?
Maybe
This is all just some scam to get us to donate (I know I did)...
Noooo just kidding!!!!
Looking forward to actualy use the phone of this unit!
Keep up the good work lads!
May the Schwarz be with you :wink:
If I made a statement that something would be released on a certain day, knowing that I had the whole world waiting for me I would try my best to deliver on time. And if for what ever reason it were late I certainly would not list credits, I would concentrate my efforts to the release and the first post would be a link for people to download.
The above may sound harsh but expectations have been rasied and then dropped which leads to frustration & confusion.
MobileMagic said:
If I made a statement that something would be released on a certain day, knowing that I had the whole world waiting for me I would try my best to deliver on time. And if for what ever reason it were late I certainly would not list credits, I would concentrate my efforts to the release and the first post would be a link for people to download.
The above may sound harsh but expectations have been rasied and then dropped which leads to frustration & confusion.
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Dude, lighten up, we should be grateful for Buzz & Co's efforts, and them keeping us up to date with what's happening! Give them a break (literally!)
Harsh!!, more like getting kicked in the gonads!
Some people here have been working very hard to get you this as freeware, the fact that it was delayed was inevitable due to the incompatibility issues with the laptop of the lead developer, thus, as he has mentioned, he has left it with sombody else to design the front end. Whenever outsourcing a project there are going to be delays due to teething problems. Youve got to remember that everybody involved in the development is a skilled professional who will likely have a mortgage, kids, and thus a job, this restricts the hours available for programming to a few per day, combined with the issue I mentioned above, this is likely to lead to (I would guess) at least a week of delays.
Weve all been patient until now. I know I personnaly would rather they take the time to get it done properly than to rush it and possibly turn all our phones into paperweights.
lets keep being supportive, and im sure they will deliver as soon as they can without putting undue stress on themselves and their families!
Consider how much money Microsoft put into their development, and then tell me the last time they actually reached one of their release targets?
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ai118: thanks for the support!
This release will happen, but given how long you guys have had to wait, I'd ask you to continue waiting quietly for a little while more... Buzz is currently coding this thing on my pc using remote desktop, with a remote connection to my Universal.
Now coding this stuff with the hardware in your hand is hard work, near impossible for most. With it in a different country, with no view or access to the phone - well, I'll leave it to your imagination, but it's not easy.
Now couple that with both of us also getting a bollocking from significant others as well, and you'll realise that when it is released, the code will be liberally splashed with our own blood I'm typing with one hand, crying baby in the other :evil:
It's unfortunate Buzz pre-announced, but he was so overjoyed when the alpha release worked, he couldn't contain himself. You guys try to be a bit calmer then him, m'kay?
It's coming, and it's one hell of an international collaboration. I hope Buzz isn't stealing my porn while he's connected And if he is, well, I was young and needed the money
It'll be days or less, but for any acts of God.
V
FYI, I am very willing to support a 'Core Duo Laptop' for Buzz drive. I am all for it. We can get some great deals in the States, especially on Dells. Of course, it would have to have an international warranty so I guess Dells are out.
I think Buzz deserves a T60p for his efforts
In the meantime, I recommend, as I have done so before that all of us support not just buzzdev.net but this site. Heck, we should even donate a few bucks to Vijay555's site.
And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.
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FYI, I am very willing to support a 'Core Duo Laptop' for Buzz drive. I am all for it. We can get some great deals in the States, especially on Dells. Of course, it would have to have an international warranty so I guess Dells are out.
I think Buzz deserves a T60p for his efforts
In the meantime, I recommend, as I have done so before that all of us support not just buzzdev.net but this site. Heck, we should even donate a few bucks to Vijay555's site.
And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.
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And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.
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Agree.... but how can anybody donate if the paypal option is anavailable?
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and here is the 4th dutchman
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and one from austria
Thanks for all your efforts Buzz, and everyone else who is making this possible.
I suspect those being critical of the delays are nothing more than Ebay scammers who rip people off by advertising an unlocking service for silly amounts of money, and are now about to lose their revenue stream... alternatively, they're people looking to make a quick buck off your hard work.
I've donated an amount equivalent to what I would have been prepared to pay for a commercial service, but I'm shocked by how few other donations there are - certainly not enough to buy a new laptop, sadly. I'd implore anyone reading this thread; if you're going to benefit from an unlocker, then you too should recompense Buzz for his hard work via the Paypal options on his website.
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Thanks for all your efforts Buzz, and everyone else who is making this possible.
I suspect those being critical of the delays are nothing more than Ebay scammers who rip people off by advertising an unlocking service for silly amounts of money, and are now about to lose their revenue stream... alternatively, they're people looking to make a quick buck off your hard work.
I've donated an amount equivalent to what I would have been prepared to pay for a commercial service, but I'm shocked by how few other donations there are - certainly not enough to buy a new laptop, sadly. I'd implore anyone reading this thread; if you're going to benefit from an unlocker, then you too should recompense Buzz for his hard work via the Paypal options on his website.
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I live in the Eastern Europe and paypal does not accept members from my part of teh world.... :-(
been reading through all these forums and have not been able to find out a FREE way to unlock a T-Mobile Dash. everyone keeps telling ppl who are asking to read the threads but there's really only 1 thread about unlocking the sim and you have to pay. why is jocky selling something that he isn't paying for? i think he needs to just post the program or the method he is using like has been done for most other phones. i own a touch pro and was able to unlock it very easily using these forums....so whats so special about the dash unlock?
Why is Jocky selling something he isnt paying for? Isnt that what Microsoft does? I guess they should give us Vista for free too (no thanks)
LMFAO, if its that easy why dont you write the program to do the unlock like Jocky did? We could all benefit, true, but so far nobody else has the knowledge and he is much cheaper than the alternative online unlockers.
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Why is Jocky selling something he isnt paying for? Isnt that what Microsoft does? I guess they should give us Vista for free too (no thanks)
LMFAO, if its that easy why dont you write the program to do the unlock like Jocky did? We could all benefit, true, but so far nobody else has the knowledge and he is much cheaper than the alternative online unlockers.
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Totally agree, Jocky provides a service that is cheaper than the alternatives, also a good rep and fast service....
trackhouse1, count your blessings, There is lot information, programs and roms, available here for free! Some guys may ask for a donation, but that is a small price to pay for something you find useful. You can play it safe and pay some this site trusts or shop around and take your chances. I had my daughter's Dash unlocked by someone using JIC Electronics Software, Paid $16 via PP an hour later I had a web site and password. Downloaded the software and connected the Dash. Choose the Dash on the drop down screen, scans the Dash and gives you the unlock code. Granted I took a chance and came out smellin like Rose. Had I found this site before I unlocked the Dash I would have used Jocky's service because his track record. There is no free lunch, so unless you want to change carriers, you have a useless phone that you Paid $$ just to sit there. JMO.
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trackhouse1, count your blessings, There is lot information, programs and roms, available here for free! Some guys may ask for a donation, but that is a small price to pay for something you find useful. You can play it safe and pay some this site trusts or shop around and take your chances. I had my daughter's Dash unlocked by someone using JIC Electronics Software, Paid $16 via PP an hour later I had a web site and password. Downloaded the software and connected the Dash. Choose the Dash on the drop down screen, scans the Dash and gives you the unlock code. Granted I took a chance and came out smellin like Rose. Had I found this site before I unlocked the Dash I would have used Jocky's service because his track record. There is no free lunch, so unless you want to change carriers, you have a useless phone that you Paid $$ just to sit there. JMO.
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the dash is an old phone now...
trackhouse1 said:
the dash is an old phone now...
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And your point is pointless...
Does that mean........
Its Pancake time?
gospeed.racer said:
Does that mean........
Its Pancake time?
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I can offer free sim unlock
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trackhouse1 said:
the dash is an old phone now...
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It may well be, but it still kicks A$$ over 80% of the crap thats out on the market now. So if it's old you want to give your Dash for free? lol
stylez said:
I can offer free sim unlock
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Stylez, put it up on ebay you find some takers. lol
trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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I think as a noob you should check what jockyw2001 has braught to XDA and many of the things free, do a bit of research then come out with silly comments....
I stick to my original post about the service etc, etc ,etc...
Definitely go with Jocky he is the best I know.
T-Mobile will give you the unlock code for free. If you did not get the Dash from T-Mobile then pay jocky and quite crying about it.
Membership here is free, but the founders do make money (perhaps not a lot, they just may break even most of the time) why else do you think ads are being displayed? for fun? LMFAO
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trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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Are you for real? I had a Mio c220 a few months ago, it took me 3 months to create a way to unlock the actual windows ce environment, everyone said it could not be done.. did I give it away for free after three months of hard work, you bet your ass I didnt! While I am more then willing to share what I do, create, discover I also have no problem asking for a fee if it required a bit of time and work on my part. See thats called reality Perhaps you could use a dose of it and stop thinking everyone elses hard work should be handed to you on a silver platter
You people are ridiculous. All I was trying to say is that it is f-c-ed up that this guy is using a free forum to advertise his service. If some one from imei-check.com were posting threads with a link to their site, or even worse doing direct sales through this forum, the posts would be deleted for "spamming". Like you said, the owners of this site at least break even from advertising...meaning that companies pay to advertise on this site. Jocky doesn't even have a star next to his name, he hasn't paid the owners sh_t! Who needs to do their research?? I am well aware of how much this jocky dude has done to help people on this site. Most of the time its with info they could find by google searching, though. I may be a "noob" to this site, if that's an issue then don't read what I have to say. I was just trying to unlock this stupid dash as a favor for a friend anyway. But they got a better phone, so I could actually care less about getting the unlock code for myself. I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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You people are ridiculous. All I was trying to say is that it is f-c-ed up that this guy is using a free forum to advertise his service. If some one from imei-check.com were posting threads with a link to their site, or even worse doing direct sales through this forum, the posts would be deleted for "spamming". Like you said, the owners of this site at least break even from advertising...meaning that companies pay to advertise on this site. Jocky doesn't even have a star next to his name, he hasn't paid the owners sh_t! Who needs to do their research?? I am well aware of how much this jocky dude has done to help people on this site. Most of the time its with info they could find by google searching, though. I may be a "noob" to this site, if that's an issue then don't read what I have to say. I was just trying to unlock this stupid dash as a favor for a friend anyway. But they got a better phone, so I could actually care less about getting the unlock code for myself. I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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Jocky IS NOT a bad guy. Just think: Your time, your efforts, and a lot of resources by researching a main thing that would help a lot of people.. that costs money. Be smart: you wont post your hard work for other people's pocket. Thats brilliant, thats smart from him. Is not greedy, or, he's charging $$$ as imei-check or someone who f*cks your pockets?
Dont be stupid, dont say b*ll****.. Or did u work in your office (in case you are a employee) for free ?
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I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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What are jocky's personal accountant, that you know how much $$ or doesn't make? You come into this forum and badmouth and cuss out some you don't even know, just because YOU ASSUME that he is making a boat load of $$. Also if you want to get technical about it jocky does not advertise in this forum. He has 1 thread where he offers his services to those people who choose to use them. I don't seem to be bombarded on every page with jockys unlocking service. If you think you can get it for free then get your butt on google and find your free service. Paying someone a small fee to unlock a phone or even paying some for a Rom that I like and use is no big deal. Believe me this site gives us enough free things. The most important this being KNOWLEDGE.
anabully do us all a favor take a long walk off a short pier and take your foul mouth with you.
I don't know who is right or wrong, and I don't wanna go deeper about it, but the author of this topic is right about complaining.
The whole point is: Why pay for unlocking Excalibur while you can unlock other models (from htc and other brands) for free?
About Jocky (or anyone, or any company) charging us for unlocking is not the point.
What's so special in Excalibur that you can't find a free tool to unlock it? That's the point!
Regards
you can either buy the phone from tmobile, then pay for 3 months service, then get the FREE code from them, then pay a $200 disconnect fee..BAM there is your free code
or you can pay jocky a minimal fee to do it for you
stop *****ing about a service that is saving you money...or go figure out how to do it your god damn self.
Thought you guys might find this interesting...
Its a phone case that transforms into a car dock, adjustable camera mount, movie stand, credit card holder, Sd card holder & SUPPORTS the extended battery.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6NLUEnYQdY
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
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Looks pretty sick too!
That looks like a really cool case.
Too bad their website isn't finished.
I'm buying one as soon as it comes out! The Facebook profile states they will start pre-order sales in just a few days! The video plus the pictures on Facebook are great information.
this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
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this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
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That's where I got the link to this project. I personally asked the creator if she'd sell me one, she wouldn't take my money though. She eventually got banned from that site because the admin wants people to pay to post links about their products. The day she left she asked them to delete the thread because she couldn't afford it and sent me and a few other members links to a face book page. Instead of simply deleting the thread they banned her! I think she said they wanted $500 just to allow her to keep her post, now that is a scam!
For a while I thought it was vaporware because there was no updates on the face book page but now there is new photos every day and she says she'll be able to do pre-orders soon.
I think if it was a scam and if it didn't work there wouldn't be so much proof that the concept works, also why didn't she take my money?
The reason why I started coming on here to XDA developers is because android forums is run by greedy businessmen.
I forgot to add this before, here's the facebook page where I got the photos.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
WooHoo!
they are accepting orders next monday
Update: they got a demo video...
Product Page
Wow this thread died!
Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Dude, they just started a day ago, I was a bit worried myself but the site they are using doesn't take ANY money unless the project reaches its funding goal. They could have used Amazon or some other site that takes money immediately when you pre-order. This is the same thing as pre-ordering, its just that they have a minimum pre-order amount to make the case.
I've been watching their thread on this site...
droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-accessories/4609-droid-x-polyurethane-hard-case-images.html
They have a alot of "fans" on that site, I've seen no complaints about scams or anything there.
I think its awful when some people spread rumors that this is a scam with no proof to back it up, I have a case but I'm going to contribute to this project.
The Jawcase concept and the Kickstarter concept are good. It's hard for small people to get started with manufacturing a new idea. So I applaud this gal for sticking with it, and using the Kickstarter method to help get their business off the ground.
They are using Amazon Payments for the pledge system. Nothing will be charged unless they reach their goal of 9300. I pledged 25 bucks to essentially pre-order the case. It's a great concept, and hopefully others will follow suite.
Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
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Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? .
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Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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Sorry if it seems like spam, I specifically asked everyone that was interested in my case to spread the word by tipping gadget blogs and posting on forums.
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Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
Don't be so pessimistic of start ups everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
It's remarkable that so many people in the droid community have this distrust of start up's. Everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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Right now we only have a cnc iphone version, this is because the shape of the iphone is much easier and cheaper to make. The droid X version would cost over $100 per case.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Start-up ideas...great. That's part of the backbone of America.
But something like this perhaps would have had a LOT better chance getting off the ground if done 1-1/2 years ago. That's my thought. I've occasionally stopped by to check the progress on the funds to be raised, (as a post-graduate in business management some time back and just saying that to give some perspective) I don't see that the funding goal is going to be reached. And by the time it might ever happen, I'll probably have moved on something else (i.e. HTC) as I'm getting too annoyed with Motorola's locked bootloader stance.
On the plus side, it does sound like the Droid X2 will have the same dimensions. Or so some folks hope in order to be able to use the same accessories and such.
If you believe in this product, go for it, as long as you understand its late in the game (my thinking) with respect to the DX and hopefully would work on the DX 2. There are always going to be folks ready to 'dis anything. I still chuckle when I think about the guy who demanded a refund from JRummy16 for the Liberty Toolbox ... available for FREE on the Market. The way some folks whine about all that the devs do and offer them for free, just imagine (nah...you don't have to even imagine it) what happens when you mention $$ for it. ;-)
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
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What's remarkable is someone calling a product "junk" without having laid eyes or hands on it.
I personally don't feel her response was a thin skinned answer. Yours however leaves something to be desired.
To start, I'm sure this thread will elicit some angry responses. I'm fine with that, because everybody is entitled to their opinion, which is completely acceptable. All I am asking, is that you don't swear, call names, or get too crazy about it. Now on with my rant...
I find it utterly shocking as to the lack of respect certain members have in regards to the rules concerning marketplace. The rules are pretty cut and dry, yet time and again, there are those who simply don't care about them. These are the same people who whine and complain when their threads are closed. What is so difficult about following a few simple rules? This isn't rocket science people; follow the rules, or face the consequences!
-Selling/ trading phones you do not yet own, or are not yet in your posession:
Do I really need to explain the problem with this? If you don't have the phone in your posession, its not yours to sell/trade, and you have no business posting threads, or making deals with anybody. I can count on a hudred hands, where people got themselves (and others), into trouble doing this. Complete and total stupidity.
-Feeler threads:
I don't get this concept...whats the point? Either you want to sell/trade your item, or you don't. Seems to me like "feeler" threads are created by people who are hoping to get a windfall for their phone. I could be wrong, but that's how I perceive this. Example: Someone is hoping to get a Note for a crappy iPhone 4. Either you want to sell/trade your phone, or you don't. Just post your thread, and accept or deny the offers until you find one that suits you.
-Posting pictures:
I see a lot of people create a thread without including pictures right away, saying " I didn't have time to include them, or they were at work and couldn't post them right away". Don't create a thread if you can't do it properly. What is so freaking difficult about that??
-Selling/trading non cell phone related items:
Here is yet another cut and dry rule. If your item is not a phone, or an item that directly relates to a phone, you have no business listing it. A PSP, PS3, XBOX, Blow up doll, etc., are not in any way, related to a phone. Including these items as part of a package deal of a cell phone, does not qualify. Cases, headohones, sd cards, screen protectors, are examples of phone related items.
-Selling/trading phones with bad esns:
I've lost count as to how many threads I've seen, where people try selling blacklisted phones. One reason why XDA prohibits this, is the chance of the phone being stolen.
-Using a middle man:
This has to be the worse of them all. Why anybody would allow another member to use their eBay or Paypal accounts is beyond me. I can't wrap my head around this concept. O understand that some of you know each other on XDA, and have developed relationships with each other, but at the end of the day, it's XDA, so you can only go by what people tell you. If someone is asking to use your eBay or Paypal account to conduct business, its most likely because they screwed up their own accounts, and are blocked from opening another one. But they do it anyways, because the people asking are "trustworthy" and have solid feedback. This is almost always the case, yet most of the time, it ends badly. I've seen "trusted" members with perfect feedback involved in a scam, leaving the poor guy to fend for himself, cleaning up the mess. Think it through folks! You worked hard to build up your reputation, don't screw it up by letting someone you don't really know, use your accounts. Its not worth the risk.
When reminded about the rules, I've seen the excuse "sorry, I didn't know it was a rule"...You would have known, had you taken 10 minutes to read them!
The marketplace is under heavy scrutiny, and on the verge of being shut down for good, because people can't seem to follow SIMPLE rules. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. The rules apple to everybody. The rule breakers are the very same people who whine and complain about these rules, and get upset when their threads get locked or their accounts get suspended. Marketplace is a priveledge, not a right. If you don't like it, go to Craigslist, but don't be selfish, and screw it up for the honest people who are resoectful.
Another thing that really blows my mind is how people who are proven scammers are still allowed to use Marketplace. I've seen so many "scam alert" threads, wjmhere the proven scammer is STILL able to use marketplace to sell their items. I don't get this at all. Unbelieveable!
If I came across as a pr*ck, I apologize. That was not my goal when creating this thread. I'm just really frustrated, because the rules are cut and dry, and it seems like more and more people are disregarding them, desoite the fact that marketplace is under fire for the way things have gone in the past. The lack of respect for the marketplace really pisses me off.
If you can't be bothered to respect the marketplace and follow the rules, that's fine, but don't screw it up for everybody else.
Your input is welcomed, encouraged, and appreciated.
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well said.
juzz86 said:
well said.
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Thanks, Justin.
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BrothaJINC said:
Ur dumb........... and ignorant
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If you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, don't say anything.
As I've suggested before, it shouldn't be a rule, but etiquette that people who've never traded with each other before take a picture of legal ID (privately, obviously) when a deal is made. I've traded driver's license pictures with another member once (during a trade I thought was too good to be true, might I add), and everything went smoothly. He turned out to be an honest guy to begin with, but it removed tension and trust issues from the equation since I knew:
- His address
- His phone number
- His email address
- What he looked like
- His DOB
Like I said, it shouldn't be a rule, but the with the scams being run lately, people should take caution and think about doing this.
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If you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, don't say anything.
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It's ok, he is on the ignore list.
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Like we always say on occasions like this, if there are specific examples you see of people breaking the MP rules, feel free to let us know.
If it's one or two threads, use the regular report feature. If it's more, just drop a senior mod or above a PM about it with links
I am currently out the country right now, but don't mind getting any bulk stuff about misdoings in the MP...
I was reading a book recently called the "Darwin Awards", about people who end up demonstrating survival of the fittest in real life. In a way, it would be wonderful if those who do stupid things in the MP also were eradicated from the gene pool, but alas I don't think it's an option...
Common sense is all you need... Shame so few have it
What I find funny is that I don't even know BROTHAJNC, never even talked to him befpre, and he posts a rude comment on my thread. What is going on? What has XDA become? He's posted on another of my threads doing the same thing. Since when is behavior like that tolerated? If this were in person, we all know how that would go. A ridge hand below the ear lobe would solve that attitude problem.
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...I was reading a book recently called the "Darwin Awards", about people who end up demonstrating survival of the fittest in real life. In a way, it would be wonderful if those who do stupid things in the MP also were eradicated from the gene pool, but alas I don't think it's an option...
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In one sense, you guys do have the power to do this. Not the gene pool as such, but certainly the 'talent pool' of XDA
I do think that the ban hammer could be swung a little more liberally in there. I understand it's hard though, especially as many members in trouble never actually make their cases particularly well.
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In one sense, you guys do have the power to do this. Not the gene pool as such, but certainly the 'talent pool' of XDA
I do think that the ban hammer could be swung a little more liberally in there. I understand it's hard though, especially as many members in trouble never actually make their cases particularly well.
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Exactly. If someone sends me a PM linking me to some hotchpotch of nonsense, I'm frankly going to read a little bit of it, then go "uhm, too confusing, too much in dispute", and move on...
Conversely if you present a clear-cut point, which is not easily disputed, then there's more chance of something happening.
But it's very much about making a case, as we're not going to make the case for people... If they can make a case, it will be dealt with, but all too often those who get stung are acting irresponsibly in some other way (I'd bet they broke AT LEAST one of the rules themselves in carrying out the deal, or did something which would fail the common sense test)
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Exactly. If someone sends me a PM linking me to some hotchpotch of nonsense, I'm frankly going to read a little bit of it, then go "uhm, too confusing, too much in dispute", and move on...
Conversely if you present a clear-cut point, which is not easily disputed, then there's more chance of something happening.
But it's very much about making a case, as we're not going to make the case for people... If they can make a case, it will be dealt with, but all too often those who get stung are acting irresponsibly in some other way (I'd bet they broke AT LEAST one of the rules themselves in carrying out the deal, or did something which would fail the common sense test)
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This. It's rarely cut-and-shut, and takes a long time for actual holes and 'missed' details to surface. Mind if I pinch your statement and post it in the Lounge? May help in explaining why 'ZOMG NBODY GETS TEH BANz'
juzz86 said:
This. It's rarely cut-and-shut, and takes a long time for actual holes and 'missed' details to surface. Mind if I pinch your statement and post it in the Lounge? May help in explaining why 'ZOMG NBODY GETS TEH BANz'
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Sure, by all means.
My words of "wisdom" should probably be creative commons licenced
Then again, can you apply a licence to stating the bleeding obvious?
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Sure, by all means.
My words of "wisdom" should probably be creative commons licenced
Then again, can you apply a licence to stating the bleeding obvious?
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Of course... Look at Apple
egzthunder1 said:
Of course... Look at Apple
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He said the "A" word.
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The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
munchy_cool said:
The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
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Agreed. Id probably have quite a few transactions under my belt. But until it gets cleandmed uo, I'm not going to bother.
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munchy_cool said:
The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
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The scams go in cycles though. There's a quiet period of a few weeks, then one tried it on and a couple follow, there's a shouting match, then it disappears again.
It's unfair that the ****ty deals get all the publicity in there. There is so much clean, silent good, and a minority of horrid, noisy bad. I'm as guilty as the next man of hopping in and having a say, but sitting back and watching says more, sometimes.
It's starting to change, albeit slowly. I'm getting more and more PMs for advice, which I don't mind too much. People are starting to care more, and take more efforts to protect themselves. We'll never get everybody, but as long as we can start the movement off we should see benefits in the long-term.
esthery xlvi,
Good rant.
http://davesays.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/windows-phone-sucks/
That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.
I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with
I can sum it up with three words - "get a life".
AndyFZ1S said:
That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.
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I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with
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If he's a man to begin with. NOT an average man? Who does he think he is, Michael Jackson on Thriller?
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1.Dee | May 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Err, given your inability to say anything in an objective manor it doesn’t surprise me you have had difficulties adjusting to Windows Phone. It is different, ergo you need to learn. Let me say that again in case it didn’t sink in, Windows Phone is different to an iPhone, and Android, there for YOU have to LEARN.
The fact you ditched it after only a day, the fact you write like a teenage fan-boy and finally the fact that you haven’t been objective from the very first words that littered your blog here tells me and any other sane mature individual that you shouldn’t be doing such reviews any more, its a waste of energy, a waste of time and worst of all, its just plain inaccurate FUD.
Dont give up the day job son, or more likely, get your arse back to school.
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Thats what id say lol
I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
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vnvman said:
I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
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Gangsta? If momma has to pick you up at school or you have to ride the bus to work, you ain't no gangsta. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post, good work.
At first I'd write myseld in rage.. I hate "kids" like this, people that idotic reviews of a new product with the conclusen it's ****ty because it's not like all the other comparable products. I mean only because Anroid looks like iOS, WP hast to do it too? Sure after one day, he knows everything about the Device. And if he'd really want a good navigation software, he'd purchased Navigon (or whatever it's called). Maybe then, maybe later I'd recognise what I'm doing and that there is no point in doing so, because attention is what he wants, and I'd delete my text again.
Afterall I argree with vnvman!
PS: Where do you drown a Hipstar? - In the Mainstream...
His 1st point is a lie...
All new LTE Windows phjones have Visual voicemail.
Old ones do also if the damn carriers would enable them.
His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
You can tap to focus the camera... IT focuses where you tap then takes the picture. Why the hell would you focus on something if you were not going to take the damn picture, omg. And you can set it so you don't accidently press the camera buttons in settings. This guy is complete BS.
Xbox games are seperate also Only acheivements are stored for prosterity. IT's not like you can't play one game without playing another.
I'd rather only the time be shown then using the ripp off from android for the notification center.
He complains about MS renaming yet he loves apple that decided not the call the ipad 3 nothing else but the "Ipad". What a marketing mess. WHich ipad do you own? You know i have the ipad. The new or old? I don't know just says ipad.
People like this piss me off.
I don't mind the iphone or android but when they say things that aren't true about other platforms they don't understand, it gets to me.
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Well for one I wouldn't post links to his blog. And if I saw a link to his blog I wouldn't click on it. No sense in upping his Google rank.
Frankly if I were to ever speak to him I would say I'm glad you have freedom of speech wherever you live and thank you for not posting to the Windows Phone section of XDA. The guys over in the Andriod section of this forum may be cursing Windows Phone every day. I don't know about it because I don't read that section. To each there own. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion... even if I think their opinion is really dumb. It only bothers me if they keep shoving it in my face for no apparent reason when they don't have anything else to contribute to the platform.
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His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
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Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!
As others have already mentioned, this guy is a complete tool.
*No receipt scanning app - I use HandyScan and I love it.
*Populating People Hub with crap contacts from hotmail account - Well... that's what you get for not maintaining your hotmail contacts better. I set a friend up, a few weeks ago, with her first smart phone... the Lumia 710. On her RAZR, she had all her phone numbers. On her hotmail account, she had all her email addresses. Have to manually merge the two. A lengthy, but necessary process that only has to happen once. That this guy can't keep his contacts in good order is clearly NOT my problem.
*Camera functions suck - Yes, there is no question that the iPhone 4s has an amazing camera with good funtionality. Actually using it though is a complete PITA. I was teaching a few friends how to select focus and exposure points on their iPhones. So much work with pressing and long pressing. Oh, and I can't stand having to press the software button to snap the photo. I'm constantly hitting the home button instead of the shutter. It's remarkably awkward and unintuitive. This, however, is only my opinion based upon the fact that I've never own an iPhone and never well, but am quite skilled in how to actually use one.
If the guy doesn't want his Hotmail contacts to show up, it only takes a couple of steps to filter which contacts show up. Using the phone one day, he never gave it a chance.
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Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!
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yes, but he did say there was "none"
Actually i would have used skyscanner or something else but he was saying one specific brand was not there.
As a regular consumer, who cares about what he says.
His false opinions are his own.
For gods sake judging by how he wrote this so-called "review" labels him as an iOS sheep and Android bridge troll, what a goddamn fcking retard.
I laughed so hard at this chaps apparent inability to take on new tech, he really does come across as being a pre teen keyboard warrior.
I for one am glad he doesnt like the OS, WP7 is better off without people who cannot count the amount of appendages they posess.
......................and Darwin slowly turns in his grave.