To start, I'm sure this thread will elicit some angry responses. I'm fine with that, because everybody is entitled to their opinion, which is completely acceptable. All I am asking, is that you don't swear, call names, or get too crazy about it. Now on with my rant...
I find it utterly shocking as to the lack of respect certain members have in regards to the rules concerning marketplace. The rules are pretty cut and dry, yet time and again, there are those who simply don't care about them. These are the same people who whine and complain when their threads are closed. What is so difficult about following a few simple rules? This isn't rocket science people; follow the rules, or face the consequences!
-Selling/ trading phones you do not yet own, or are not yet in your posession:
Do I really need to explain the problem with this? If you don't have the phone in your posession, its not yours to sell/trade, and you have no business posting threads, or making deals with anybody. I can count on a hudred hands, where people got themselves (and others), into trouble doing this. Complete and total stupidity.
-Feeler threads:
I don't get this concept...whats the point? Either you want to sell/trade your item, or you don't. Seems to me like "feeler" threads are created by people who are hoping to get a windfall for their phone. I could be wrong, but that's how I perceive this. Example: Someone is hoping to get a Note for a crappy iPhone 4. Either you want to sell/trade your phone, or you don't. Just post your thread, and accept or deny the offers until you find one that suits you.
-Posting pictures:
I see a lot of people create a thread without including pictures right away, saying " I didn't have time to include them, or they were at work and couldn't post them right away". Don't create a thread if you can't do it properly. What is so freaking difficult about that??
-Selling/trading non cell phone related items:
Here is yet another cut and dry rule. If your item is not a phone, or an item that directly relates to a phone, you have no business listing it. A PSP, PS3, XBOX, Blow up doll, etc., are not in any way, related to a phone. Including these items as part of a package deal of a cell phone, does not qualify. Cases, headohones, sd cards, screen protectors, are examples of phone related items.
-Selling/trading phones with bad esns:
I've lost count as to how many threads I've seen, where people try selling blacklisted phones. One reason why XDA prohibits this, is the chance of the phone being stolen.
-Using a middle man:
This has to be the worse of them all. Why anybody would allow another member to use their eBay or Paypal accounts is beyond me. I can't wrap my head around this concept. O understand that some of you know each other on XDA, and have developed relationships with each other, but at the end of the day, it's XDA, so you can only go by what people tell you. If someone is asking to use your eBay or Paypal account to conduct business, its most likely because they screwed up their own accounts, and are blocked from opening another one. But they do it anyways, because the people asking are "trustworthy" and have solid feedback. This is almost always the case, yet most of the time, it ends badly. I've seen "trusted" members with perfect feedback involved in a scam, leaving the poor guy to fend for himself, cleaning up the mess. Think it through folks! You worked hard to build up your reputation, don't screw it up by letting someone you don't really know, use your accounts. Its not worth the risk.
When reminded about the rules, I've seen the excuse "sorry, I didn't know it was a rule"...You would have known, had you taken 10 minutes to read them!
The marketplace is under heavy scrutiny, and on the verge of being shut down for good, because people can't seem to follow SIMPLE rules. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. The rules apple to everybody. The rule breakers are the very same people who whine and complain about these rules, and get upset when their threads get locked or their accounts get suspended. Marketplace is a priveledge, not a right. If you don't like it, go to Craigslist, but don't be selfish, and screw it up for the honest people who are resoectful.
Another thing that really blows my mind is how people who are proven scammers are still allowed to use Marketplace. I've seen so many "scam alert" threads, wjmhere the proven scammer is STILL able to use marketplace to sell their items. I don't get this at all. Unbelieveable!
If I came across as a pr*ck, I apologize. That was not my goal when creating this thread. I'm just really frustrated, because the rules are cut and dry, and it seems like more and more people are disregarding them, desoite the fact that marketplace is under fire for the way things have gone in the past. The lack of respect for the marketplace really pisses me off.
If you can't be bothered to respect the marketplace and follow the rules, that's fine, but don't screw it up for everybody else.
Your input is welcomed, encouraged, and appreciated.
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well said.
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well said.
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Thanks, Justin.
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BrothaJINC said:
Ur dumb........... and ignorant
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If you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, don't say anything.
As I've suggested before, it shouldn't be a rule, but etiquette that people who've never traded with each other before take a picture of legal ID (privately, obviously) when a deal is made. I've traded driver's license pictures with another member once (during a trade I thought was too good to be true, might I add), and everything went smoothly. He turned out to be an honest guy to begin with, but it removed tension and trust issues from the equation since I knew:
- His address
- His phone number
- His email address
- What he looked like
- His DOB
Like I said, it shouldn't be a rule, but the with the scams being run lately, people should take caution and think about doing this.
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If you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, don't say anything.
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It's ok, he is on the ignore list.
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Like we always say on occasions like this, if there are specific examples you see of people breaking the MP rules, feel free to let us know.
If it's one or two threads, use the regular report feature. If it's more, just drop a senior mod or above a PM about it with links
I am currently out the country right now, but don't mind getting any bulk stuff about misdoings in the MP...
I was reading a book recently called the "Darwin Awards", about people who end up demonstrating survival of the fittest in real life. In a way, it would be wonderful if those who do stupid things in the MP also were eradicated from the gene pool, but alas I don't think it's an option...
Common sense is all you need... Shame so few have it
What I find funny is that I don't even know BROTHAJNC, never even talked to him befpre, and he posts a rude comment on my thread. What is going on? What has XDA become? He's posted on another of my threads doing the same thing. Since when is behavior like that tolerated? If this were in person, we all know how that would go. A ridge hand below the ear lobe would solve that attitude problem.
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...I was reading a book recently called the "Darwin Awards", about people who end up demonstrating survival of the fittest in real life. In a way, it would be wonderful if those who do stupid things in the MP also were eradicated from the gene pool, but alas I don't think it's an option...
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In one sense, you guys do have the power to do this. Not the gene pool as such, but certainly the 'talent pool' of XDA
I do think that the ban hammer could be swung a little more liberally in there. I understand it's hard though, especially as many members in trouble never actually make their cases particularly well.
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In one sense, you guys do have the power to do this. Not the gene pool as such, but certainly the 'talent pool' of XDA
I do think that the ban hammer could be swung a little more liberally in there. I understand it's hard though, especially as many members in trouble never actually make their cases particularly well.
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Exactly. If someone sends me a PM linking me to some hotchpotch of nonsense, I'm frankly going to read a little bit of it, then go "uhm, too confusing, too much in dispute", and move on...
Conversely if you present a clear-cut point, which is not easily disputed, then there's more chance of something happening.
But it's very much about making a case, as we're not going to make the case for people... If they can make a case, it will be dealt with, but all too often those who get stung are acting irresponsibly in some other way (I'd bet they broke AT LEAST one of the rules themselves in carrying out the deal, or did something which would fail the common sense test)
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Exactly. If someone sends me a PM linking me to some hotchpotch of nonsense, I'm frankly going to read a little bit of it, then go "uhm, too confusing, too much in dispute", and move on...
Conversely if you present a clear-cut point, which is not easily disputed, then there's more chance of something happening.
But it's very much about making a case, as we're not going to make the case for people... If they can make a case, it will be dealt with, but all too often those who get stung are acting irresponsibly in some other way (I'd bet they broke AT LEAST one of the rules themselves in carrying out the deal, or did something which would fail the common sense test)
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This. It's rarely cut-and-shut, and takes a long time for actual holes and 'missed' details to surface. Mind if I pinch your statement and post it in the Lounge? May help in explaining why 'ZOMG NBODY GETS TEH BANz'
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This. It's rarely cut-and-shut, and takes a long time for actual holes and 'missed' details to surface. Mind if I pinch your statement and post it in the Lounge? May help in explaining why 'ZOMG NBODY GETS TEH BANz'
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Sure, by all means.
My words of "wisdom" should probably be creative commons licenced
Then again, can you apply a licence to stating the bleeding obvious?
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Sure, by all means.
My words of "wisdom" should probably be creative commons licenced
Then again, can you apply a licence to stating the bleeding obvious?
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Of course... Look at Apple
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Of course... Look at Apple
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He said the "A" word.
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The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
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The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
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Agreed. Id probably have quite a few transactions under my belt. But until it gets cleandmed uo, I'm not going to bother.
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munchy_cool said:
The MP has changed a lot over the last few months, there weren't that many scams last year but this year has been hell of a ride...scams , people calling each other names ...am not sure what went wrong but yes something definitely went wrong in there.
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The scams go in cycles though. There's a quiet period of a few weeks, then one tried it on and a couple follow, there's a shouting match, then it disappears again.
It's unfair that the ****ty deals get all the publicity in there. There is so much clean, silent good, and a minority of horrid, noisy bad. I'm as guilty as the next man of hopping in and having a say, but sitting back and watching says more, sometimes.
It's starting to change, albeit slowly. I'm getting more and more PMs for advice, which I don't mind too much. People are starting to care more, and take more efforts to protect themselves. We'll never get everybody, but as long as we can start the movement off we should see benefits in the long-term.
esthery xlvi,
Good rant.
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XDAsite: Please Stop Using the Word "FORA"- It's Ridiculous, Forced, NON-User-Centric
I just saw the post on the Portal Page reminding people about some rules of the site. That was good. However, in the midst of that good message was nomenclature that needs to be retired because it has long since fallen out of common usage all over the world. Please -- The site has finally modernized, can we please kick to the curb the silly, academic use of the word "FORA" and get real?
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Following in my grand tradition of my occasional ridiculous commentry at XDA, let me add this one:
In high school growing up, I tool two years of Latin language, so I am perfectly clear about the tecnically correct singular form of the word FORUM and the technically correct pluralized form of this LATIN term, FORA. Let me just add that I think it is patently ridiculous for anyone in the year 2010 to continue to buck the trend of ordinary people who have rejected that academic technicality long ago, and to just call it what it is: FORUMS.
Nobody but ridiculous academics uses the term FORA... Honestly, just think about it... It sounds more like the friendly bacterial flora in your digestive track that help break down foods and prevent you from having flatulence -- than it sounds like the natural sound for "our mutliple forums".
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Must we use such academic terms?
The whole point of "TOUCHSCREENS 2.0" -- was to bow to the USABILITY DESIGN principles of user-centric design. XDA-developers.com would still be using its old forum design, would still be rejecting Samsung, would still be rejecting Motorola, and Sony Erricson, and lastly would still be rejecting the iphone, if it maintained its head-in-the-sand approach of "we are who we are, if you want to play in our backyard, shut up, read the rules, read the FAQa, don't ask stupid questiosn, and wait a year before ever posting" -- which is the mentality that such regimented thinking like "Fora" comes from, in my view.
But wisely, the new site owners saw, correctly, the SEA-CHANGE of the industry that began when the iPhone's unquestionably superior FINGER-NAVIGABLE touchscreen interface put WM's tired old little 6-point checkbox interface you need to hit with a stylus to shame --- transforming the industry overnight. Sure, we could rightly complain about the lockdown system of the iphone and all it lacked -- a LOT -- and focus and hail the openness of WM and its accessibilty to DEVS to create the magic XDA-developers built its reputation on... But the fact is, the iPhone WOKE UP the industry -- and not a moment too soon.
It was RIDICULOUS to have to have the WM phone 6-8 inches away and have a stylus chained to your device in order to place a phone call or add a contact. HTC took cues immediately and for the next few years SAVED Microsoft's sweet ass by introducing TOUCH-FLO and doing all the UI layer changes that Microsoft (dumbass Ballmer) stubbornly refused to do because they were so ****-sure they were the leaders and no one could dethrone them.
Yeah. Until they were dethroned. Then they lost two whole years of selling as they faded from marketplace relevance. And I'm suggesting that that is what obsolescent and calcified thinking PRODUCES. Just carrying on old thinking processes because -- either (a) we've always done it that way, or (b) "we know best, we're in charge". Both are wrong and lead to consumer revolt.
Let's drop this ridiculous "FORA" usage. No one in the mainstream uses it, because it's ridiculous. Sure, you can find it at http://FORA.tv -- a fantastic service -- but that's their BRAND name, it's not their nomenclature for their forum structure. Say what you will, call them dumb, cal them uneducated, big deal: but the international consumer marketplace doesn't care one bit about Latin plurality rules. Nor should you, nor should we. Give it up and join the 21st century, please.
THE REST OF THE XDA SITE HAS. They modernized. They finally took queus from the world that had been passing them buy -- and modernized -- and in a short time -- way less than a year -- completely upgraded XDA with a smart portal news page, tied to twitter, etc. (great job svetius and writing team!)
And so to cling to that bygone era artifact seems silly. Dump it, and just get practical please. It's user-centric design. Users hate fora. Fora is silly. They use the word Forums. So should this site.
Thank you for your consideration!
Love,
quicksite
Wow, you seriously got some spare time. I've rarely seen such a long explanation and deliberation for such a simple and easy concern.
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Wow, you seriously got some spare time. I've rarely seen such a long explanation and deliberation for such a simple and easy concern.
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Yeah, and your point is what?
My profession is Usability design -- so it';s my profession -- not my spare time.
The difference between most people is this:
I have no interest in simply registering an opinion. That's what 99% of the world does in 140 twitter culture. I'm a chnage agent, That means if I take the time to write, it means I want it changed, I'm not merely flapping my gums.
Thanks for playing though.
Why does it matter how people want to refer to it? Stop caring.
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Why does it matter how people want to refer to it? Stop caring.
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Stop replying. Unsubscribe. Please go to games section or free downloads.
I second this.
I'm Brazilian, and "fora" means "out" for me =P
I guess all Internet users are used to the term "forums". In addition, in Portuguese, the plural of "fórum" (forum in English) is "fóruns" (we only use "m" before "p" or "b")
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Yeah, and your point is what?
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My point was, that you spend a lot of time cross-referencing to other areas where "progress" was made and the game changed, instead of focussing on reasons why the word "fora" is so "ridiculous, forced and NON-user-centric". I missed the development of the wheel though.
I get your point but I think you're way overexaggerating. Windows mobile would not have lost its market lead to the iPhone (or to Android now) if the only difference would have been the word "fora" on one device's display and "forums" on the others.
Cheers
(Now off to games and ringtones fora)
Holy Sh.. that's some free time o.0
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Hi quicksite,
I just finished going over your opening post and truth be told, I see no problem whatsoever with the use of that term. Does it matter that the term is old? A big part of the English language has, as you correctly pointed out, Latin roots, which are old in the first place. The word is perfectly valid as it is, according to the following sites:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fora
http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_us1248326#m_en_us1248326
http://www.britannica.com/bps/dictionary?query=fora
By contrast, your example was pulled out of Wikipedia. Truth be told, if I knew that the term was invalid or outdated, I would have edited the article before it was published. However, this is not the case. It isn't a matter of being old fashioned, conservative, reluctant to change, or anything like that. My writer used a term, which is accepted by all three world standards of the English language (above), and as such I have no problem with that. Likewise, if my writer would have used the word "forums", I would have still accepted it because it is also an acceptable term. Some people may not like the sound of it as you claim, but likewise, you will have people who think that the use of the word forums is not right, or simply doesn't sound right.
As far as your example of "Juiz de Fora", I am sorry but I fail to see how that is relevant to anything. The term is in Portuguese and it is the name of a city. As the member before me pointed out, the term fora means "outside" in Portuguese, but considering that the term we are looking at is in English, it is completely irrelevant.
Last but not least, the whole "iPhone revolutionizing the world" argument... not sure why you used that example as it is a little far fetched (conveys your point, but there are better analogies).
Please don't take this as an attack or anything like that. I am in charge of anything that goes in the Portal (as I edit every article), and because of that, I thought it would be best for me to explain this.
+1 on this ez
egzthunder1 said:
Hi quicksite,
I just finished going over your opening post and truth be told, I see no problem whatsoever with the use of that term. Does it matter that the term is old? A big part of the English language has, as you correctly pointed out, Latin roots, which are old in the first place. The word is perfectly valid as it is, according to the following sites:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fora
http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_us1248326#m_en_us1248326
http://www.britannica.com/bps/dictionary?query=fora
By contrast, your example was pulled out of Wikipedia. Truth be told, if I knew that the term was invalid or outdated, I would have edited the article before it was published. However, this is not the case. It isn't a matter of being old fashioned, conservative, reluctant to change, or anything like that. My writer used a term, which is accepted by all three world standards of the English language (above), and as such I have no problem with that. Likewise, if my writer would have used the word "forums", I would have still accepted it because it is also an acceptable term. Some people may not like the sound of it as you claim, but likewise, you will have people who think that the use of the word forums is not right, or simply doesn't sound right.
As far as your example of "Juiz de Fora", I am sorry but I fail to see how that is relevant to anything. The term is in Portuguese and it is the name of a city. As the member before me pointed out, the term fora means "outside" in Portuguese, but considering that the term we are looking at is in English, it is completely irrelevant.
Last but not least, the whole "iPhone revolutionizing the world" argument... not sure why you used that example as it is a little far fetched (conveys your point, but there are better analogies).
Please don't take this as an attack or anything like that. I am in charge of anything that goes in the Portal (as I edit every article), and because of that, I thought it would be best for me to explain this.
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I almost forgot to add this. Under your arguments, words and expressions like laughing or "I will be back shortly" would be replaced by LOL and BRB, simply because they are more mainstream. Soon after that, you would have people asking for "cheezeburgerz".
Lol have to agree with Ez.
I'd put this down to too much time on your hands... maybe could be put to better use since XDA is a *development* Fora
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Holy Sh.. that's some free time o.0
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As usual, all respondents are 2009/2010 -- have almost no sense of XDA culture other than gimme gimme gimme now, 140 tapatalk gotta go, life on the run
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Captainkrtek said:
Last but not least, the whole "iPhone revolutionizing the world" argument... not sure why you used that example as it is a little far fetched (conveys your point, but there are better analogies).
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Actually it makes perfect sense for those not "on the run with 140 character-count lifedrives"
Quite simply: XDA-devs was founded upon an HTC phone running WM; WM was the prevailing OS for long time; the bulk of the work here for years was focused on things like hard spl and getting hardware and software to do things never intended by the manufacturer -- which made the site great, gave it its reputation, and things churned along. ... Then the iphone came and changed a paradigm. A lot of resistence felt here on this site to the very idea of the iphone, but its influence was undeniable. It was fought and ignored tooth and nail by Ballmer and his old school thinkers tied to the past. Until they were swept in the destbin of history and a new model swept the world with finger-driven interfaces, hardware changes + OTA app store concept which overnight made -- for the mainstream, not the tinkerers at XDA -- WM 6.1 and 6.5 an obsolete concept for app-dev ...
The whole industry shifted around this new model -- and eventually that gravitational force was so strong even old fashioned "We liked out yellow skin" XDA-devs stepped up to the plate, threw out the old, and joined the new --- with a new front page way closer to engadget than old XDA would even have ever dreamed of allowing.
There is nothing obtuse about that analogy at al except for someone purposely being obtuse. It means -- dropping old relics and getting with the times. Nobody is saying "the word isn;t used in the english langauge" -- did I say that? No. I say mainstream. Just as XDA-devs has clearly revamped to appeal more to mainstream and if you doubt that, go have a coffee or beer with svetius, or take a look at that sister site.
I'm not looking for a fight either. I'm just making a strong advocacy point, and i don't like ha;lf-stepping it. There are always going to be little peanut gallery voices who have generally nothing to add other than mockery like "hah hah too much time on hands" like that really refutes or affirms anything. Might as well not post at all. These are just general forums after all . Look how silly it would look if I had said. These are just general fora afterall. People can post what they like.
But it seems rather juvenile and meaningless to bother to post to a thread where you have nothing to add... If anyone has too much time on their hands its someone who posts absolutely nothing of any value, just dittos, and more dittos, just tapping away from tapatalk, because it's so important you see to comment on how stupid the whole topic is. because then you see how smart they are and how ridiculous the poster is.
I think you're pretty silly to post about something you find a waste of time. They do studies about people like that.
But finally, regarding editorial style guides, Okay, I'm all for that. Then would you please, as of today, help make the site editorially consistent, applying your style guide: Here are some places you can start. Oh, it's the portal page, well that's easy, it's under your domain! Happy trails one and all !
Stirring Up ****e!
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As usual, all respondents are 2009/2010 -- have almost no sense of XDA culture other than gimme gimme gimme now, 140 tapatalk gotta go, life on the run
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Help me with your logic. You mention mainstream and getting with the times, but you also reference culture in a way that would indicate a reverence of past times. You also appear to loathe or hold some angst against the internet community (or people in general) in its present state by your usage of "140 tapatalk gotta go" as if people today do not get it or do not care.
Would we be better served keeping with the times or holding on to our history? On one hand you indicate the former, ("dropping old relics and getting with the times"), yet on the other you cling to the latter ("makes perfect sense for those not on the run with 140 character-count lifedrives" ).
I use forums, but I also accept the use of the word fora. One must always consider audience when speaking or (in this case) writing, so whomever the author considered when composing dictated his or her usage of the particular word currently debated.
Honestly, I do not understand your point. If either usage were incorrect, perhaps I could agree with your stance. Unfortunately, both ARE correct, and as such render your opinion moot. You are still entitled it, however pointless it may be.
-Internet Tough Guy
P.S. Let us be honest. Your iPhone argument is completely illogical. Some (see most) would consider it a logical fallacy. While I can see where you intended to relate your point, it was under served by your misuse of analogy. Also, forum registration date is not indicative of knowledge, experience, or expertise with xda, its history, or its culture (whether past, present, or future).
Wait a minute... Did I just get trolled? Doh.
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Actually it makes perfect sense for those not "on the run with 140 character-count lifedrives"
Quite simply: XDA-devs was founded upon an HTC phone running WM; WM was the prevailing OS for long time; the bulk of the work here for years was focused on things like hard spl and getting hardware and software to do things never intended by the manufacturer -- which made the site great, gave it its reputation, and things churned along. ... Then the iphone came and changed a paradigm. A lot of resistence felt here on this site to the very idea of the iphone, but its influence was undeniable. It was fought and ignored tooth and nail by Ballmer and his old school thinkers tied to the past. Until they were swept in the destbin of history and a new model swept the world with finger-driven interfaces, hardware changes + OTA app store concept which overnight made -- for the mainstream, not the tinkerers at XDA -- WM 6.1 and 6.5 an obsolete concept for app-dev ...
The whole industry shifted around this new model -- and eventually that gravitational force was so strong even old fashioned "We liked out yellow skin" XDA-devs stepped up to the plate, threw out the old, and joined the new --- with a new front page way closer to engadget than old XDA would even have ever dreamed of allowing.
There is nothing obtuse about that analogy at al except for someone purposely being obtuse. It means -- dropping old relics and getting with the times. Nobody is saying "the word isn;t used in the english langauge" -- did I say that? No. I say mainstream. Just as XDA-devs has clearly revamped to appeal more to mainstream and if you doubt that, go have a coffee or beer with svetius, or take a look at that sister site.
I'm not looking for a fight either. I'm just making a strong advocacy point, and i don't like ha;lf-stepping it. There are always going to be little peanut gallery voices who have generally nothing to add other than mockery like "hah hah too much time on hands" like that really refutes or affirms anything. Might as well not post at all. These are just general forums after all . Look how silly it would look if I had said. These are just general fora afterall. People can post what they like.
But it seems rather juvenile and meaningless to bother to post to a thread where you have nothing to add... If anyone has too much time on their hands its someone who posts absolutely nothing of any value, just dittos, and more dittos, just tapping away from tapatalk, because it's so important you see to comment on how stupid the whole topic is. because then you see how smart they are and how ridiculous the poster is.
I think you're pretty silly to post about something you find a waste of time. They do studies about people like that.
But finally, regarding editorial style guides, Okay, I'm all for that. Then would you please, as of today, help make the site editorially consistent, applying your style guide: Here are some places you can start. Oh, it's the portal page, well that's easy, it's under your domain! Happy trails one and all !
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You are quoting the wrong person altogether. It wasn't Captainkrtek who said that you could have used a better analogy, it was me. If you would read the whole statement, you would have read that I didn't say that your analogy was wrong. I said it was a long stretch, but never said it was wrong.
Also, I never said that "Forums" was wrong either. What I did say was that "Fora" is a properly used term, and perfectly acceptable from where I stand. There is nothing wrong with using it interchangeably, so as both of these terms are acceptable, I will carry on as I was doing before reading your suggestion.
Finally, the join date has nothing to do with the replies you are getting. I am over 2 years your senior membership-wise, and while my replies are a bit more consistent than a simple "you are wasting your time", I will agree that you put a tremendous amount of effort on something that is not needed.
I am open to suggestions and discussions on things that will improve the Portal. I have never seen or heard of anyone complaining about this in my 5+ years of being a member in multiple fora (not just XDA, but many others as well). So, as this is not a crucial change or anything that will affect the usability or functionality of the site, I will take no action towards this. Thank you for the suggestion.
Man the people who frequent the fora here.
It seems their flavourite thing to do sometimes is to analyse the colour of the language in an effort to honourably be at the centre of the arguement. Its the internet, people use different language programme than others.
Wow, what an article. I must say though that I disagree with you. Just because it's the newest item doesn't mean it's what we should go with.
The english language (here in America) is becoming ridiculous to an extreme. To use a term like lol or brb is one thing but when people start typing phrases like 'lol @ u plz hlp me i peez my pnts' all I can say is WTF?? Or when people can't get it through their heads that '@' does not mean 'and' there's a symbol for that - &.
Some businesses are starting to do that stuff "OMG Huge sale, Stp by 2day" and various other forms. Is this what our society is coming to? Do I need to go buy a cypher just to decode teenybopper messages that are as insignificant as the brown thing I left in my toilet last night?
@quicksite lk omg wtf is fora
@fadman i dont nozzz o god hlp mezz plzzzz :.((
If you want to change something why not change the stupefaction of an entire language instead of promoting the expedition of it.
Don't you have people better things to do, rather than complaining about word 'fora' ? It's bad, yeah, but many here can't write or spell correctly.
Are you trying to get at the fact that you don't like the word "fora" instead of forums or forum?
If so, then you are the only person and the only thing i have read on this FORUM that has called this a "fora" or used the term "fora".
According to my mum, "fora" is a plural of "forum"
It can be applied like this:
"There are many different kinds of fora on the internet."
Or
"There are many different kinds of forums on the internet."
You can use either "fora" or "forum".
If the usage of the word "fora" instead of "forum" or "forums" annoys you, well that's just tough sh*t!
You can use either word and people can choose which on they want to use.
So there you go.
And i do have too much time on my hands
BTW: Its free will, people can say which ever word, and you can't change that.
So if your trying to, you have just failed.
BTW2: Someone should close this thread before a flame war starts.
Thought you guys might find this interesting...
Its a phone case that transforms into a car dock, adjustable camera mount, movie stand, credit card holder, Sd card holder & SUPPORTS the extended battery.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6NLUEnYQdY
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
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Looks pretty sick too!
That looks like a really cool case.
Too bad their website isn't finished.
I'm buying one as soon as it comes out! The Facebook profile states they will start pre-order sales in just a few days! The video plus the pictures on Facebook are great information.
this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
mruno said:
this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
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That's where I got the link to this project. I personally asked the creator if she'd sell me one, she wouldn't take my money though. She eventually got banned from that site because the admin wants people to pay to post links about their products. The day she left she asked them to delete the thread because she couldn't afford it and sent me and a few other members links to a face book page. Instead of simply deleting the thread they banned her! I think she said they wanted $500 just to allow her to keep her post, now that is a scam!
For a while I thought it was vaporware because there was no updates on the face book page but now there is new photos every day and she says she'll be able to do pre-orders soon.
I think if it was a scam and if it didn't work there wouldn't be so much proof that the concept works, also why didn't she take my money?
The reason why I started coming on here to XDA developers is because android forums is run by greedy businessmen.
I forgot to add this before, here's the facebook page where I got the photos.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
WooHoo!
they are accepting orders next monday
Update: they got a demo video...
Product Page
Wow this thread died!
Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Dude, they just started a day ago, I was a bit worried myself but the site they are using doesn't take ANY money unless the project reaches its funding goal. They could have used Amazon or some other site that takes money immediately when you pre-order. This is the same thing as pre-ordering, its just that they have a minimum pre-order amount to make the case.
I've been watching their thread on this site...
droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-accessories/4609-droid-x-polyurethane-hard-case-images.html
They have a alot of "fans" on that site, I've seen no complaints about scams or anything there.
I think its awful when some people spread rumors that this is a scam with no proof to back it up, I have a case but I'm going to contribute to this project.
The Jawcase concept and the Kickstarter concept are good. It's hard for small people to get started with manufacturing a new idea. So I applaud this gal for sticking with it, and using the Kickstarter method to help get their business off the ground.
They are using Amazon Payments for the pledge system. Nothing will be charged unless they reach their goal of 9300. I pledged 25 bucks to essentially pre-order the case. It's a great concept, and hopefully others will follow suite.
Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
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Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? .
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Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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Sorry if it seems like spam, I specifically asked everyone that was interested in my case to spread the word by tipping gadget blogs and posting on forums.
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Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
Don't be so pessimistic of start ups everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
It's remarkable that so many people in the droid community have this distrust of start up's. Everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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Right now we only have a cnc iphone version, this is because the shape of the iphone is much easier and cheaper to make. The droid X version would cost over $100 per case.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Start-up ideas...great. That's part of the backbone of America.
But something like this perhaps would have had a LOT better chance getting off the ground if done 1-1/2 years ago. That's my thought. I've occasionally stopped by to check the progress on the funds to be raised, (as a post-graduate in business management some time back and just saying that to give some perspective) I don't see that the funding goal is going to be reached. And by the time it might ever happen, I'll probably have moved on something else (i.e. HTC) as I'm getting too annoyed with Motorola's locked bootloader stance.
On the plus side, it does sound like the Droid X2 will have the same dimensions. Or so some folks hope in order to be able to use the same accessories and such.
If you believe in this product, go for it, as long as you understand its late in the game (my thinking) with respect to the DX and hopefully would work on the DX 2. There are always going to be folks ready to 'dis anything. I still chuckle when I think about the guy who demanded a refund from JRummy16 for the Liberty Toolbox ... available for FREE on the Market. The way some folks whine about all that the devs do and offer them for free, just imagine (nah...you don't have to even imagine it) what happens when you mention $$ for it. ;-)
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
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What's remarkable is someone calling a product "junk" without having laid eyes or hands on it.
I personally don't feel her response was a thin skinned answer. Yours however leaves something to be desired.
I recently developed a joke viewing apps. And so far it has been rejected twice. I have a few problems that I want to share with you about the app certification process.
1. Its hugely subjective. First time my app got rejected because it has an "Adult Jokes" section. I guess it violated the content policy about adult/mature. I removed the section. The second time, it got rejected because it has content promoting discrimination based on race, sex etc. I think the problem is from the blonde jokes section. But seriously, I would think very few people would find this type of jokes offensive. And its jokes, and people who read jokes usually have a sense of humor, and I think Microsoft needs to have a sense of humor too.
2. The turnaround time is too long. For my case, i could tell that testers finished the test on Tuesday, but I don't get the result back until Thursday night, why does it take this long to receive a notification.
3. I would like to get all the problems all at once, instead of fixing one, submitting again, and only found out it got rejected again with new problems that should have been mentioned last time. The turnaround time is too long.
I really enjoy develop for Windows phone, and I think its a platform that has so much potential. I personally promote windows phone around my friends and coworkers a lot. But this certification process is making really frustrated. I really hope these problems will be addressed soon.
Well, in this day and age "we" have to be careful who we might offend. Thing is you say these are "just jokes" but where's the line. Blionde jokes? Aggie jokes? Polish jokes? Blacks? Rural folk? Women? Asians? Whites? Jews or any other religious group?
You get the point. In some ways this is an unfortunate side-effect of the politically correct world we've all come to know. In other ways, this may be a microcosm of trying to build a more tolerant and less ignorant society. Who knows?
I'd suggest taking a moment to read the Application Certification Requirements and specially the Content Policies.
Put yourself in the tester's situation, that person probably tests hundreds of apps each day and is just following the guidelines to the best of his/her ability. It would be nice if they could list all the faults in the application, but there really shouldn't be that many things to find in the first place.
I'm sure the tester is a blonde hehe
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There are not that many things.
First time, they said to remove the adult jokes, which I did. How come the second time they come back to me and say, you know what, remove this too.
Its not like the technical bugs. Those contents were always there. How many times do I have to go through the review to fix them all?
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I'd suggest taking a moment to read the Application Certification Requirements and specially the Content Policies.
Put yourself in the tester's situation, that person probably tests hundreds of apps each day and is just following the guidelines to the best of his/her ability. It would be nice if they could list all the faults in the application, but there really shouldn't be that many things to find in the first place.
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I have been on xda for a little over a year. It is the site I come to first for anything. The minds at work here have helped me make my Evo the fantastic old school device it is now. But my friends and I have came to the conclusion that there is a LOT of arguing and bickering. It seems to be an issue.
My suggestion? Keep the site as is. Access can stay the same. But only allow people that pay, say .99 xda enrollment fee, to be able to download and/post. Make it just as readable as it currently is. Allow the trolls to read posts and hate quietly. Leave it to the people that are here for development or modifications. It should trim down a lot of the general crybabies and arguementative people. They will still be there, but not as many, and either way xda as a whole wins. At .99 a memeber you would be able to enjoy such downloads as apks, posting about topics, etc.
That would probably be a great way to drive of devs from this site. Going to make them pay to post, make people pay to get their roms apps etc. They could go to different sites or open their own, which is what would happen
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Pay to post? I mean I knew this was going to be a horrible idea from the title, but I didn't expect "Don't let anyone post unless they pay!"
I don't think so. Lots of people pay .99 for so silly app all the time. I'm merely making a suggestion to help clear the clutter. If u haven't notice, some devs have already left...due to bickering. Whining. I know of countless people who would gladly come to a little more refined site. And no, a paid membership would keep all the trash out but it definitely would cut it down.
To ad to this, please moderators or devs please don't take offense to this post. I love xda. This is a great site. I felt I came to the right forum w a decent idea. I do not expect this idea implemented but I feel as though it shouldn't be discarded but at least looked into. I understand the size of this site and am not looking to disrespect any member of this board. But I would gladly pay for a little exclusivity if it meant in the long run that the social a developmental needs were being better met.
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Pay to post? I mean I knew this was going to be a horrible idea from the title, but I didn't expect "Don't let anyone post unless they pay!"
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It would be as a membership fee. Pay to post is all you have read? Haha. I've watched people buy apps for $2 and never use them. You say .99 is too much? Maybe its xda that's all too glad to accept everyone when in truth that's not always the right approach due to abusers of privilege. Most paid just for xda premium unless they ripped it of some site. I have accrued way more than .99 worth of knowledge. This is simply food for thought. Its not really about money. My idea just seemed simple and an extremely easy way to solve many mild issues. I can deal with it as free is great for me. But I personally would be more than willing to, due to the resources xda offers alone is enough.
While this isnt the worst idea I've ever heard I do think its a little extreme.
In my opinion the best way to deal with these problem users is for diligent and well intentioned members such as yourselves to make full use of the report post function and let us deal with any issues that might arise.
I also think that there needs to be a little understanding of the fact that this is the internet and it is crawling with trolls....
We will deal with problematic users but we need your help and for people to understand that although we endeavour to deal with any situation as quickly as possible, we simply cannot catch every little thing right there and then.
Also, if you see a member who is clearly out to cause drama and controversy...
Dont feed the troll. If everyone made more of an effort to simply ignore these idiots then they'd get bored pretty quickly...
In the words of the prophets Bill & Ted....
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What about minors who use this site (like me) ?
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I appreciate the earnest response. I just thought I would bring this up.
I'm not age discriminate, as I am only 30.
I definitely try not to fuel the trolls. I also see this site to be a place that prides itself on being open. So, I can let it go. Glad I at least was able to rant a little haha.
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I appreciate the earnest response. I just thought I would bring this up.
I'm not age discriminate, as I am only 30.
I definitely try not to fuel the trolls. I also see this site to be a place that prides itself on being open. So, I can let it go. Glad I at least was able to rant a little haha.
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Hehehe I'm glad that you can suppress your anger.....
I will fail on that
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What do u wanna make for tis?
I think that is horrible idea and i would definetly leave xda then.
Think about the minors and people with no credit cards!
Just my opinion
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Lol ^ what would the minors do that own smart phones and no debit cards. Haha what are you on wic?
Edit: this comment is not directed nor intended to offend people on wic. But if you have a smartphone and no debit card of any sort then you
A) live w your parents
B) sell lots of drugs and banks aren't of interest
C) form your own opinion about a and b and get back to me
yes i agree 100% that this is a bad idea xda has always been about promoting open source if u make people pay to use the site then it would be one of the most contradicting things ive ever seen.
Also as compared to other website like ppcgeeks and android forums xda is far more organized and set up better i think its just fine the way it is.
on another note when i read the title u came of as a troll right away u might want to reward that a little.
That's funny. Well, none of it was meant to be taken any wrong way. Merely a suggestion. That's what the forums are here for.
Like it or not my idea will never come to fruition but I still would gladly pay. Anyone that argues or complains or suggests its outrageous should look at how much knowledge is worth.
We will all have our own ideas and opinions and in the end .99 isn't **** to be a member of an elite site such as xda. Which I will gladly accept and enjoy my free membership. And if it ever were to change, I wouldn't complain one bit
If trying to come up with a creative solution is considered being a troll then I think about 100% of users on this site fall in that category. Maybe have a 3 strike and your banned policy if you get reported for unruly behavior 3 times then boom access denied! That might make folks think twice before bashing someone who is just trying to learn.
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If trying to come up with a creative solution is considered being a troll then I think about 100% of users on this site fall in that category. Maybe have a 3 strike and your banned policy if you get reported for unruly behavior 3 times then boom access denied! That might make folks think twice before bashing someone who is just trying to learn.
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Good idea . But what if:
-Trolls report you and you got banned ?
-Members who register just to report everyone ?
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Lol ^ what would the minors do that own smart phones and no debit cards. Haha what are you on wic?
Edit: this comment is not directed nor intended to offend people on wic. But if you have a smartphone and no debit card of any sort then you
A) live w your parents
B) sell lots of drugs and banks aren't of interest
C) form your own opinion about a and b and get back to me
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agreed. You can get prepaid credit cards for free now. Just go to the local grocery store.
I actually wouldn't mind this, the same way I don't mind paying for my apps or my mediafire acct. I don't think 10 bucks a year registration fee would be unreasonable.
But it would never happen for the reasons already listed. Open source might be free, but the devices are not, and people don't seem to mind dropping 600 bucks on the next latest and greatest.
As a side note for the minors, I have actually considered getting my kids prepaid debit cards that are reloadable for their allowance. It's a digital age. People that still write checks at walmart drive me crazy. They are processed as a debit and given right back!!!
More mods imo, because looking at this LIST it explains why the main two forums I've used while being a member here are such a mess.
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More mods imo, because looking at this LIST it explains why the main two forums I've used while being a member here are such a mess.
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On their way....
Just finishing up in boot camp and should hit the forums very shortly.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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On their way....
Just finishing up in boot camp and should hit the forums very shortly.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Boot camp huh. They have a boot camp to teach them how, not exactly when but how, to use the lock delete and ban buttons?
Yeah I'm a little sour. Seen to many threads locked for no reason, just as many deleted.
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http://davesays.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/windows-phone-sucks/
That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.
I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with
I can sum it up with three words - "get a life".
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That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.
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I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with
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If he's a man to begin with. NOT an average man? Who does he think he is, Michael Jackson on Thriller?
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1.Dee | May 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Err, given your inability to say anything in an objective manor it doesn’t surprise me you have had difficulties adjusting to Windows Phone. It is different, ergo you need to learn. Let me say that again in case it didn’t sink in, Windows Phone is different to an iPhone, and Android, there for YOU have to LEARN.
The fact you ditched it after only a day, the fact you write like a teenage fan-boy and finally the fact that you haven’t been objective from the very first words that littered your blog here tells me and any other sane mature individual that you shouldn’t be doing such reviews any more, its a waste of energy, a waste of time and worst of all, its just plain inaccurate FUD.
Dont give up the day job son, or more likely, get your arse back to school.
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Thats what id say lol
I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
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vnvman said:
I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
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Gangsta? If momma has to pick you up at school or you have to ride the bus to work, you ain't no gangsta. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post, good work.
At first I'd write myseld in rage.. I hate "kids" like this, people that idotic reviews of a new product with the conclusen it's ****ty because it's not like all the other comparable products. I mean only because Anroid looks like iOS, WP hast to do it too? Sure after one day, he knows everything about the Device. And if he'd really want a good navigation software, he'd purchased Navigon (or whatever it's called). Maybe then, maybe later I'd recognise what I'm doing and that there is no point in doing so, because attention is what he wants, and I'd delete my text again.
Afterall I argree with vnvman!
PS: Where do you drown a Hipstar? - In the Mainstream...
His 1st point is a lie...
All new LTE Windows phjones have Visual voicemail.
Old ones do also if the damn carriers would enable them.
His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
You can tap to focus the camera... IT focuses where you tap then takes the picture. Why the hell would you focus on something if you were not going to take the damn picture, omg. And you can set it so you don't accidently press the camera buttons in settings. This guy is complete BS.
Xbox games are seperate also Only acheivements are stored for prosterity. IT's not like you can't play one game without playing another.
I'd rather only the time be shown then using the ripp off from android for the notification center.
He complains about MS renaming yet he loves apple that decided not the call the ipad 3 nothing else but the "Ipad". What a marketing mess. WHich ipad do you own? You know i have the ipad. The new or old? I don't know just says ipad.
People like this piss me off.
I don't mind the iphone or android but when they say things that aren't true about other platforms they don't understand, it gets to me.
sinister1 said:
http://davesays.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/windows-phone-sucks/
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Well for one I wouldn't post links to his blog. And if I saw a link to his blog I wouldn't click on it. No sense in upping his Google rank.
Frankly if I were to ever speak to him I would say I'm glad you have freedom of speech wherever you live and thank you for not posting to the Windows Phone section of XDA. The guys over in the Andriod section of this forum may be cursing Windows Phone every day. I don't know about it because I don't read that section. To each there own. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion... even if I think their opinion is really dumb. It only bothers me if they keep shoving it in my face for no apparent reason when they don't have anything else to contribute to the platform.
ROCOAFZ said:
His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
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Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!
As others have already mentioned, this guy is a complete tool.
*No receipt scanning app - I use HandyScan and I love it.
*Populating People Hub with crap contacts from hotmail account - Well... that's what you get for not maintaining your hotmail contacts better. I set a friend up, a few weeks ago, with her first smart phone... the Lumia 710. On her RAZR, she had all her phone numbers. On her hotmail account, she had all her email addresses. Have to manually merge the two. A lengthy, but necessary process that only has to happen once. That this guy can't keep his contacts in good order is clearly NOT my problem.
*Camera functions suck - Yes, there is no question that the iPhone 4s has an amazing camera with good funtionality. Actually using it though is a complete PITA. I was teaching a few friends how to select focus and exposure points on their iPhones. So much work with pressing and long pressing. Oh, and I can't stand having to press the software button to snap the photo. I'm constantly hitting the home button instead of the shutter. It's remarkably awkward and unintuitive. This, however, is only my opinion based upon the fact that I've never own an iPhone and never well, but am quite skilled in how to actually use one.
If the guy doesn't want his Hotmail contacts to show up, it only takes a couple of steps to filter which contacts show up. Using the phone one day, he never gave it a chance.
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Ineedtoys said:
Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!
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yes, but he did say there was "none"
Actually i would have used skyscanner or something else but he was saying one specific brand was not there.
As a regular consumer, who cares about what he says.
His false opinions are his own.
For gods sake judging by how he wrote this so-called "review" labels him as an iOS sheep and Android bridge troll, what a goddamn fcking retard.
I laughed so hard at this chaps apparent inability to take on new tech, he really does come across as being a pre teen keyboard warrior.
I for one am glad he doesnt like the OS, WP7 is better off without people who cannot count the amount of appendages they posess.
......................and Darwin slowly turns in his grave.