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Brand new Evo 4g data speed problem.

Hi guys...
i usually lurk over at the hd2 forums as ive been running american droid on my hd2 with much satisfaction. finally decided to buy a native android phone and signed up with sprint. bought a evo 4g and an epic 4g.
firstly, let tell you guys that their coverage map is a joke! says that im well covered by 4g. i cant even get a signal while standing outside. pathetic.
anyway. my data speed out of the box was something like 10kbps download, it was horrible!! but oddly enough the epic was flying along at about 300kbps!!?? called customer support and they walked me through steps that didnt help at all. went to sprints repair store the next day, they danced the dance and finally concluded that the phone was defective after PRL updates, reboots, what all and to ask for a replacement. (bought it from amazon wireless).
while there i thought id ask for the MSL. lady asked why? said i knew of some very clever folks on the internet that may be able to help me out. she shrugged me off as if she knew better and although hesitant, gave the number to me.
i came home and did the "fix" as noted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922978
and now im getting speeds of 400-500 download.
so here comes the sticky question... is this slow data bug only a evo 4g problem or does it affect all sprint phones? (didnt affect the epic 4g)
should i ask for a replacement? is this a phone specific problem or a general evo 4g problem?
should i send int he evo 4g and settle for a 2nd epic 4g if its more reliable? (does come better kitted though... 16 gb memory card, a really decent pair of ear buds. i dont particularly care for hardware keyboard though)
appreciate any and all help guys.
regards,
asmd.

Welcome to the club of ****ty download speeds. No matter what prl I've tried or hack 3G and 4G(area related) are just jokes. The problem could be HTC related but I find it odd yet possible that your epic gets faster speeds. I also find it strange that they said the phone could be defective lol. If you're into changing roms like a madman then the evo will have more development than the epic(still a great phone). It would be your call if you would want to exchange it for another but I doubt getting a new one will help.
Epic does have better screen and gpu than the evo.

thanks for the reply... heres the odd thing though. they did the "caveman" speedtest by putting several evos from the store next to mine and hit enter in the borwser to make them load identical pages simultaneously and mine was the only one that sucked.
@ dirkyd3rk - so this slow download thing is a evo 4g problem then? (and doesnt affect the epic 4g?)

Crappy data speeds seem to be isolated incidents here. It happens to quite a few people but not enough for it to be a problem that we all possess. I myself get excellent 4g signal and I'm on the edge of a 4g spot and my 3g speed is moderately good (about what your epic gets, give or take).
If you fixed your 3g speeds on the Evo, then I suggest keeping that Evo. You've already fixed the problem, there's no need to go out and get another one that you might have to fix again.
I have a friend with an Epic and I still like the Evo more. The Epic has a better GPU and screen, but the Evo has WAY more developer support (here on XDA) and better features. He schools me on benchmarks, but I can run Gingerbread with 3 different kinds of sense (1.0, 2.1, 3.0/2.1 hybrid from Virus) and he can barely run stable Froyo. We've got so many stable Froyo roms, a flashaholic like myself has to flash multiple times a week to try them all.
Lastly, I've heard that Sprint service in heavily populated areas is rather sketchy. I live in a suburb and get great speeds, but downtown I can't keep a 4g signal to save my life and my 3g speeds blow ass. I couldn't even get a steady GPS reading to check into a place of foursquare. Left downtown and all was well again. If you still have the problem, go ahead and get the replacement (and make sure to remove any evidence that you did anything fun with it )
In the end it's up to you. The people over in the Epic forums are cool, but we here in the Evo forums are cooler lol.

thanks for the reply,
will toy with it and decide. getting a replacement is going to cost me nothing. may just try it and chooses from the two to keep.
been playing with the epic as well. it doesnt feel as robust in my hand. it may have a better processor, but not in any real world advantage. and the screen is real nice but a little too super saturated. i do like the black levels though. since i have both i can compare and contrast all day long.

asmd6230 said:
thanks for the reply,
will toy with it and decide. getting a replacement is going to cost me nothing. may just try it and chooses from the two to keep.
been playing with the epic as well. it doesnt feel as robust in my hand. it may have a better processor, but not in any real world advantage. and the screen is real nice but a little too super saturated. i do like the black levels though. since i have both i can compare and contrast all day long.
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The epic is barely better in terms of specs but it has an amoled screen which is way better than the evo's. Me personally, I love my evo and couldn't imagine having another phone. My main problem with the epic is that it feels plastic as compared to the evo which feels solid. Maybe your phone could be defective I wouldn't be surprised based on the **** I've seen lol. I know you will make your own decision but I'd suggest the evo before anything else from sprint's lineup.

btw which one has a better battery life?

asmd6230 said:
btw which one has a better battery life?
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I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.

dirkyd3rk said:
I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.
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With the right kernel/rom combo you can actually get extremely good battery life.
With a normal day's use (a couple hundred texts, a couple phone calls, etc), I've gotten results like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutzerogi/5635211381/
That's MikFroYo 4.61 with Netarchy's 4.3.4 SBC-CFS-Havs-More kernel.

dirkyd3rk said:
I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.
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thanks for the replies mate.
if im understanbding this right, only some but not all evo 4g have the data speed problem and its correctable with the fix i did (although not permanent and has to be redone on occasion)
and here i was thinking i could walk away from the hd2 to its sexier twin without hassles. ha ha....
yeah, will probably stick with the evo 4g. 3d doesnt bother me, and super amoled is not a deal breaker for me. its a nice screen but its not that much nicer.
ive noticed that the epic suspends 4g when not in use as seen int he "Zzzz" symbol, does the evo 4g do this as well.. ive yet to see it.

asmd6230 said:
thanks for the replies mate.
if im understanbding this right, only some but not all evo 4g have the data speed problem and its correctable with the fix i did (although not permanent and has to be redone on occasion)
and here i was thinking i could walk away from the hd2 to its sexier twin without hassles. ha ha....
yeah, will probably stick with the evo 4g. 3d doesnt bother me, and super amoled is not a deal breaker for me. its a nice screen but its not that much nicer.
ive noticed that the epic suspends 4g when not in use as seen int he "Zzzz" symbol, does the evo 4g do this as well.. ive yet to see it.
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Nope lol, the evo 4G signal will continue to scan and drain your battery if you don't turn it off. You can thank HTC for that

Should I get SGII epic 4G Touch or Motorola Photon?

I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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kyhassen said:
I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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Best phone I've had. The only rant is the LoS every now and then. I prefer the smaller resolution because it's just easier. Bigger icons are better (at least for myself).
I messed with the Photon and it's a nice phone, but something that kept me far away from it was the lack of development.

I came from a Motorola atrix from att and I can say I missed Samsung. Phonton isn't a good the ept4g screen is amazing. Battery is OK better stuff is yet to come. Join us get the Epic 4g touch
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Like you, I considered both and haven't regretted my decision to go with the ET4G. The screen is amazing. The phone is faster than anything I've used. I doubt you'll regret it.
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Had the Photon for a month and have had the Epic 4G Touch for a month. While the Photon is an excellent phone it has serious issues with random rebooting and no audio on calls. It seems for for unexplained reasons the software just goes haywire and you have to do a battery pull. Some Best Buys reported 100% return rate when the phone first came out due to issue with no audio and rebooting. The radio is very strong, much better than the Sammy. The UI is not very good, you will need to switch to LauncherPro to make it acceptable. Thicker and heavier that the Sammy. Neither are great with the battery due to the nature of Android. As for the Epic 4 G Touch the radio is weaker. While people report loss of signal I have never had it. Very slim and lighter. Great all around phone with no issues on the calls. Like everything about it.
My suggestion would be the Epic 4 G Touch.

The SGS2 is a beast! I think you can't go wrong with either phone but I would say Sammy all the way. The screen blows away the qhd display of the EVO 3d I owned so I wouldn't be concerned about the resolution.
I know the a lot of people also like the Photon but I have not used it nor have any intention of even looking at it.

When it comes to tv and computer monitors I am an HD snob. I simply want the highest screen resolutions. Naturally I shopped around for a new phone using the same mindset. That was until I experienced the Super Amoled Plus screen. I finally realized how much of an impact contrast ratio is to the clarity of the screen. Deep blacks make every color on the screen pop. I watch Netflix on my phone in bed and I am blown away at the quality of the picture.
So in my opinion if you are trying to make resolution of the screen your deal breaker, you should go and spend some time with both phones and see for yourself.
Plus our phone simply have the fastest processor on the market. Without hardware acceleration my phone still don't experience any lag. Now with ICS coming out and hardware acceleration on just imagine how much more smoother our phone will be.

I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.

gedster314 said:
I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.
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What is your company's officially supported phone now?

My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)

I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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DevonSloan said:
My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)
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Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.

I have an Epic 4G Touch that has not been rooted yet and I am yet to get an los on it. No issues with wifi or anything else for that matter.
Can keep 4G on all day while at work with about 1.5 hours of on screen time after 9 hours and come home with over 50% battery left. Compared to the EVO 4g and 3d, that is pretty damn impressive!

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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If you want an awesome case check out the Case-mate tough case. It's available now and it kicks ass.

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave...
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Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
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I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that.
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I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)

DevonSloan said:
No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)
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The reboot could be caused by an app you are running. Are you running Juicy Defender or something like that? I know that has been an app that causes reboots.

m3ng said:
I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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Same line up with me and I completely agree.

phatmanxxl said:
Same line up with me and I completely agree.
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Lol. I had the 3D. Phatman and Nate can confirm this.
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worldwidepmp said:
I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.
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I have rooted mine and previous to rooting and currently I have never had the los issue .. guess its some batches of phones and others are fine.. but my wife has photon and I took evo 3d back and got et4g and its hands down the best!! I've compared my wife's photon and this epic touch many a times ..
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The Photon and back, my personal experience.

I bought into the whole "Samsung radios suck" thing. I have a Photon in hand, and the bottom line is that its performing in nearly the exact same manner as the E4GT as far as reception. Im looking at the numbers, and Im not really impressed. Consider some dead areas which I attributed to the E4GT's "bad radio"....I still cannot pull data with the Photon. The Photon may have slightly better reception - but in real world applications, I dont think it warrents switching units.
So if Im not getting better reception, what am I getting? A smaller screen, terrible ergonomics (button placement, usb input placement), locked boot loader (broken 4G if unlock), quiet dev forum, some lag here and there in the menus, oh and yes the sleep of death! Not to mention the latest OTA is perpetually failing to install. The camera isnt close to as good as the touch either.
What I do like: I wish the E4GT had a kickstand. I also like the high res of the Photon's screen, looks very crisp. The BLUR SMS is also better than Touchwiz too, if you ask me.
I dont know....The Photon isnt really a terrible phone. But, consider my statements before you jump ship. I am going to have Sprint switch my service back to my E4GT. I understand that the E4GT has issues, and Samsung does too....but using both of these phones back to back I just cant let go of the touch.
Thoughts?

I agree with you more or less, and yea the higher res on the photon would have been great on the touch. The screen on the touch is nicer for scrolling, but the whites are not white, they are an off white as to the photon's white was a bright clear white.
reception, I feel both are about the same with the photon tending to "hold" the signal a bit better. The touches signal bar is misleading but so far my call ability has been decent, but not photon decent.
My main reason for switching was the photon I had would clock up the cell radio and no way to recover till a reboot was performed. It was so bad that it happened several times a day. Missed tons of calls and txt and decided enough was enough. So here I am sporting the SGS2 and I must admit the screen res and whiteness is the only thing that I can pick on so far.

The OTA will fail if you've any changes to the system files. That what sucks with the Motor updates.
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its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.

lafester said:
its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.
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^^ fully agree!!!!

I will tell you, I had photon for a month, then
E4GT since launch and the radios on everything work better, even bluetooth.
I did a shoot out with my buddies photon same area, I had much better throughput than his. Calls just as clear. Gps works better cause on the photon the market got offtrack while ET4G didn't, plus speed and reception of gps it won.
So I don't give into that 'better radio' hype
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

hayabusa1300cc said:
I will tell you, I had photon for a month, then
E4GT since launch and the radios on everything work better, even bluetooth.
I did a shoot out with my buddies photon same area, I had much better throughput than his. Calls just as clear. Gps works better cause on the photon the market got offtrack while ET4G didn't, plus speed and reception of gps it won.
So I don't give into that 'better radio' hype
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
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its a 50/50 and depends on your location as well..

I still thinking Samy cdma radios sucks, just look the past with samsung moment, epic, nexus s 4G and ET4G bc it has a radio problems too. And to make the things worst, how slow is samsung to fix problems.

dmora01 said:
I still thinking Samy cdma radios sucks, just look the past with samsung moment, epic, nexus s 4G and ET4G bc it has a radio problems too. And to make the things worst, how slow is samsung to fix problems.
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true they are slow, but nothing we can do about it.

lafester said:
its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.
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after a slight adventure out in to the world of mobile providers before coming back to sprint i think i have to agree with this.
i found at&t and verizon are too expensive and t-mobile seems to be almost non-existent. so you have sprint in that sweet middle spot amassing people exponentially.
i have also learned that almost all prepaid carriers android phones run on sprint towers? crazy right? if you ever wondered why you don't get amazing speeds, this could be a reason. they whore their towers out to pretty much everyone.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/

cdszoke said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/
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lol.
*shakes angry fist at apple*
"siri, can you please get off my network??"

SpaceMonky said:
lol.
*shakes angry fist at apple*
"siri, can you please get off my network??"
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lmao
10char

3G crap connection, but this is odd.....

Not only do I get the Loss of Signal and not know about it, but the 3G is horrible when compared to other Sprint devices in my area. I could be standing next to a person with an EVO 3D and they will have way faster downloads....but that is not why I am posting here today. So, I noticed that if I turn on the display and try to get online it takes forever!!! To the point where I have been thinking "why did I switch to Sprint"...BUT once I hit one site and go to another and another the data speed appears to be picking up and pages are loading quick like they should. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this with this phone?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.

you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0eWrsUbvE&feature=youtu.be
Evo 3D on the left, MY phone....ET4GT on the right.

I have the same data problems with my phone. Sprint 3G in the houston metro area is horrible.

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no your not crazy,the data speeds are truly terrible and cell reception is by far the worst on sprint.i dont get it and no fix or update for this in site,with all that this is still a great phone wish an update that can correct these issues comes out any time soon.then this will be the best phone ever........with a little more dev support 2 would be nice from roms.

I know for a fact that my slow connection is not the phone. At 5am I have no issues pulling down 1+Mbps. Through out the day it gets slower and by evening it can get to teens Kbps. My Evo 4G, Mogul running WM6, hacked Droid incredible and even a Virgin Optimus V all have about the same speeds at the same time of day. In my area it's just overloaded towers.
Sprint sat on their a$$ for a few years and now they are paying the price.

gedster314 said:
I know for a fact that my slow connection is not the phone. At 5am I have no issues pulling down 1+Mbps. Through out the day it gets slower and by evening it can get to teens Kbps. My Evo 4G, Mogul running WM6, hacked Droid incredible and even a Virgin Optimus V all have about the same speeds at the same time of day. In my area it's just overloaded towers.
Sprint sat on their a$$ for a few years and now they are paying the price.
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but mine is the phone, right? when a 3D can pull 5x faster when we're sitting side by side, it's the phone. that's what the OP is about...

allroy1975 said:
you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0eWrsUbvE&feature=youtu.be
Evo 3D on the left, MY phone....ET4GT on the right.
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LOL, teenagers arguing.

bondosho said:
LOL, teenagers arguing.
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the funny part is I'm 36 and my my coworker there taking the vid is 26 or 27? that's pretty much how we act all the time. as far as I can tell, if you're a good IT guy and work at a cool place, this is how you act. unless management is around.

allroy1975 said:
the funny part is I'm 36 and my my coworker there taking the vid is 26 or 27? that's pretty much how we act all the time. as far as I can tell, if you're a good IT guy and work at a cool place, this is how you act. unless management is around.
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Yup, I'm the 26 year old filming. No teenagers involved, just good old immaturity.

allroy1975 said:
you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0eWrsUbvE&feature=youtu.be
Evo 3D on the left, MY phone....ET4GT on the right.
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Just like that. That video makes me sick. So, I emailed [email protected] today and a Sprint rep actually called me. The rep said they have no idea what it is, sure you don't, but that they would investigate what could be causing the problems.
After seeing this video I emailed the rep the link, lets see what they come back with.
I want to love Sprint but they are making it hard.
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So Sprint called me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19056053#post19056053

Would you buy Epic Touch again now?

I just became eligible for an upgrade as a Sprint Premier Gold customer - my last one before the program ends in December. I have been thinking about buying an Epic 4G Touch for a while, and am wondering if those of you who got them early on are still happy with your purchase.
As far as I can tell, there is not any Sprint android phone on the horizon that looks any better, and I am not willing to wait until March to upgrade. Also, if it makes any difference I am coming from the OG Epic, which finally seems to be working well thanks to the GB update and the work of our great developers here at XDA.
So, any thoughts? Would you buy the E4GT again? Anything phones coming out soon that you would wait for? Thanks for any input...

If I could have a do over, I would wait until they fixed the LOS issue. Other than that, I love the phone and think it's the best option on Sprint currently (minus the LOS issue of course).

Without a doubt.
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Results have varried, but the EG31 modem update fixed the LOS issue for me. Haven't had one since...

I bought mine on launch day, and still very happy with my purchase. I would definitely buy it again.

Considering Sprints 2011 line up, ET4g is the best phone available.

phatmanxxl said:
Considering Sprints 2011 line up, ET4g is the best phone available.
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Thanks to all for the input. Anyone else coming from the original Epic? How are you getting along without the hardware keyboard?

From evo to epic touch, this phone is amazing
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Thanks to all for the input. Anyone else coming from the original Epic? How are you getting along without the hardware keyboard?
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I did come from the original Epic 4G. I was a lil worried about not having the physical keyboard because I text a lot, but surprisingly it hasn't been a problem. I found that I was using the onscreen keyboard on my OG Epic a lot anyway, and with the added screen real estate, it only made it easier. I have adjusted quite well to all touchscreen.

Yes! Honestly, this phone never fails to amaze me. From how sharp and crisp the screen is, to the speed/raw power as the device as a whole, to the sexyness of the phone, even when the screen is off.
Remember, you will have 14 days to return/switch to another phone.

Its the best out now on any carrier besides the att variant.
The next phone that will be a major step up probably won't be out until next April/may at the earliest (on sprint at least). So go for it.
It will get the ice cream sandwich update so its future proof I'd say, I wouldn't wait on the nexus because by time that comes to sprint, if it does, it will be short lived like the nexus s on sprint (dual cores came to sprint a month later)
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I would definatelly buy one again. It is sweet phone. No regrets here.
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The phone, as a device, is great. The phone, as a phone, sucks a big fat one. The antenna design and/or radio firmware is causing me to regret buying this device.
Not only is there a LoS issue as others have pointed out, but signal quality itself is atrocious. In general, CDMA is meant to be able to operate at very low signal quality. However, when this phone gets into low signal strength, it chops up my audio send/receive. Moreover, the data speed I get is crap. YMMV.
As I stated earlier, the phone, as a device, is great. It has a beautiful screen, the camera is pretty awesome, and it rarely slows down when using it regularly.

I agree with most of what fadeaway said. I wouldn't buy. Wait for a LTE handset to land unless you plan on buying another phone in 6 months. Here's what I posted on another thread:
I bought the ET4G on a whim after seeing it on Craigslist for an attractive price. After using it for a week, it's going back on Craigslist and I am using my OG Epic again w/ the new Gingerbread release (and physical keyboard fixes!).
While the ET4G certainly offers a snappier Android experience and a better camera than the OG Epic, I didn't find the boost in speed or extra screen real estate to be worth the $325 I paid for the device. I think the only speed boost worth writing home about was the speed of the ET4G's stock browser. Lastly, the audio quality of SGSII is inferior to SGSI and in all honesty not worthy of a high end smartphone - this was the deal breaker for me.
Considering that you already have the OG Epic, I'd wait until the middle of next year so you can get a killer future-proof 720p LTE phone at a fully discounted price. All that said, the ET4G is still a great device!

I just got mine last week, and LOVE it, running Calk's ROM + ICS theme and this phone just looks so cool, the screen is perfect for web page reading, and watching YouTube videos look amazing, and the WiFi signal for me is the best I have ever had, upstairs in bedrooms I still get good WiFi signal from the Basement office, no other phone held connection up on the 2nd floor. GPS is rock solid and locks on instant. Yes I have had two LOS's so far in one week, but no big deal, just restart the phone and it's gone, the phone restarts so fast. And that happened at my Mom's house, a very poor Sprint area, with no bars ever.
I am coming from the Nexus-S 4G which was feeling small to me, and before that my EVO 4G which I loved for a year. The Epic Touch 4G gives me that same wow factor I had when the EVO first came out last year. Oh yeah, the sound volume is great, very loud playing videos, where as my Nexus could barely be heard at full volume, and this is even louder than my EVO 4G, which was good.
There won't be a significantly better phone out until Summer, most likely the EVO-Three and Galaxy S3. And I can't wait till there is a solid stable Android 4.0 ICS ROM out for this phone, then holy cow, this thing will destroy anything for a long time.

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Yes! Honestly, this phone never fails to amaze me. From how sharp and crisp the screen is, to the speed/raw power as the device as a whole, to the sexyness of the phone, even when the screen is off.
Remember, you will have 14 days to return/switch to another phone.
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Yeah, that is a great point. I think I am going to call Best Buy and see if they will match Amazon's $149 price for the phone. If so, I may get it tonight...

The hardware is excellent but the phone doesn't get much support, I would have waited if I was to do it all over again. HTC phones get lots of supports, which I would have waited for. I had the ppc6700, mogul, hero, and eve.

One last thing, I thought the EVO 4G when it first released last year was an amazing device, it just blew me away, the big screen, build quality, tons of custom ROM's, just an awesome smartphone for last year.
I feel the Epic Touch 4G, is the true successor and best next gen device for Sprint.

ehh
I think my biggest problem with the phone is that it feels so unpolished, in terms of all the little issues I keep running into it. Granted, LoS only happened to me after a root, but, it was an annoying issue for many other people. The GPS lock is just absolute crap, and the fact that apps keep crashing because of that sound glitch is just plain annoying. I couldn't even finish PvZ because of it...
Honestly, it feels like Sprint and Samsung were trying to sell this phone quick and leave it to dry while they were working on their other new offerings (iphone4s for Sprint, and the Galaxy Nexus for Samsung). Feels very half assed...
Given a second shot, I think I'd have to really reconsider...

I'm on the EG30 modem with ROOT+CWM5 applied. Stock ROM and kernel other then that.
I've only had LOS one time and that was when I was in a basement where there simply was no signal. No Sprint, nothing to roam to either.
When I came out of the basement and was back in an area I knew for a fact should have had full Sprint bars, my phone showed nothing. Said I had no service. I had to reboot to which fixed it.
First and only time.
I love my new Samsung Epic Touch 4G.
I'm not sure that it's really much better then my EVO 4G was either though. My EVO was tweaked VERY nicely and I was getting 30~35 hours of battery life on MikG ROM with a little SetCPU tweaking. I like the slim profile of the Epic Touch 4G though, sucker is THIN and seems to be better built then my EVO 4G.
That said, I really took a hard look at the Apple iPhone 4S when I was shopping.
I almost picked up the 4S simply because I work for a school system that is loaded with iPhones, iPads and Macbooks.
I'm pretty much the only person in my department (technology dept) that uses an Android. I sorta want to get in line with what the district runs. The ONLY reason didn't get the 4S was the size of the screen. If it would have been 4~4.5 inches, I would have gotten one. If the iPhone 5 has a bigger screen, I might consider that at upgrade time. Personally I think both series, Android and iOS have good things to offer.
Anyway, back to the original question yes I would buy the Epic Touch 4G again today.