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Amazing, Just Amazing!!! H TO 3G TO G maybe solved!!

I have just installed Evils Custom Barebone rom v5 on the dev bord for desire, its a rom build that has no sense, just helixlauncher2. Now before i installed this i had the stock rom running and that always kicked my network preference to G and if i set it to HSDPA only, i would get scratchy 3G/H... Since installing the bareback rom, which has no sense running at all, i am on 3g or h constantly, and when i load a web page it always kicks into H.
I must also add that after i rooted i also updated my radio (baseband) to the new one released, the asia update
This could mean that sense applications or sense itself is forcing our phones to 2G networks as preference, I know this idea is out of the box but its looking that way, especially in my case.
JD

JupiterDroid said:
I have just installed Evils Custom Barebone rom v5 on the dev bord for desire, its a rom build that has no sense, just helixlauncher2. Now before i installed this i had the stock rom running and that always kicked my network preference to G and if i set it to HSDPA only, i would get scratchy 3G/H... Since installing the bareback rom, which has no sense running at all, i am on 3g or h constantly, and when i load a web page it always kicks into H.
I must also add that after i rooted i also updated my radio (baseband) to the new one released, the asia update
This could mean that sense applications or sense itself is forcing our phones to 2G networks as preference, I know this idea is out of the box but its looking that way, especially in my case.
JD
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very good news! although it's most likely the radio update that has fixed the problem! (i had the issue with the HD2 and it was discovered that it was not the fault of the Sense services that the connection would drop)
please keep us updated as it can take a while for the connection to drop, it can stay stable for hours and then drop like crazy.
thanks for posting but do keep us updated!
thanks!

Its definatly not the radio update mate as i still had the problem straight after rooting and updating to the new radio..... The problem only was solved when i installed the custom barebone rom, i now have HSDPA on tap, instead of blank spells when i had wcdma only on previous to the custom rom.
I just added that if people want to replicate what i did, then they have the full picture
Plus constant 3 bars of 3g reception
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Its definatly not the radio update mate as i still had the problem straight after rooting and updating to the new radio..... The problem only was solved when i installed the custom barebone rom, i now have HSDPA on tap, instead of blank spells when i had wcdma only on previous to the custom rom.
I just added that if people want to replicate what i did, then they have the full picture
Plus constant 3 bars of 3g reception
JD
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strange
well please do some further testing and report back! download a 50mb file while surfing the net and see if it drops
if it doesn't then there is a fault with Sense which HTC must fix.

ok gonna test now, also just made a phone call which was liquid! pure liquid!! No breaks or anything... I think we may be on to something here guys! something thats pretty big!
This rom is avoid of any sense, sense looking like what is killing our connections;(
JD

Started to download 114mb nvidia graphics driver, whilst on 3 bars it was downloading very fast, then it dropped to two bars, and it hung, after downloading 2mb, then it popped back up to three bars, downloaded another 2mb and then dropped back down again to two bars. When surfing it always stays three bars. It looks like tmobile have put a cap on how much we can download in bursts.
Im still noticing 95 percent surfing on hsdpa improvment.
JD

also i think removing sense and all of its RAM burden helps the phone to make better and faster decision's. This could be whats happening here

Also reporting a better WIFI signal strength, wad usually one bar from my room, now is now a constant 2 bars on signal icon

Stock T-Mobile ROM, never had any issues?
This seems to happen with every new HTC release. Could it just be poor network performance?
Why do I never have issues? Live around Nottingham but work all over the UK, no problems with HSPA.

Ok, i unchecked under location, determine location by wifi towers.... Went to download that 114mb file again,
Worked 100 percent.
downloaded in just under 10 mins no hang))
so its solved!!
JD

hi i got the desire last week, what is this problem

PAULRYAN52 said:
hi i got the desire last week, what is this problem
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Imaginary.

i dont have any problem with h or 3g

firedup said:
Imaginary.
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just look at how many people up and down the country on this board that are having 3g/hsdpa problems..
If you have nothing productive to say then please reframe from commenting on this issue!

PAULRYAN52 said:
i dont have any problem with h or 3g
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Paul some people are having intermittant G/3G/HSDPA
My problem was solved by not having Sense And with the CM Mod being uploaded as we speak i will see if its to draw with that as well.
But im definatly getting faster, always H speeds now, and the only thing i changed was the rom
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Paul some people are having intermittant G/3G/HSDPA
My problem was solved by not having Sense And with the CM Mod being uploaded as we speak i will see if its to draw with that as well.
But im definatly getting faster, always H speeds now, and the only thing i changed was the rom
JD
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i must be lucky i dont seem to have the issue

So if some people have it and others don't how can it be device and not network related?

It's OS and Network related.
There's an open bug on the android development site about it. I don't know all the ins and outs but the OS seems to have some difficulty re-acquiring dropped signals. So if your network has dodgy 3G coverage you're more likely to experience this.
I'm sure it's far more complicated than my explanation though and involves all kinds of fascinating intricacies regarding the type of 3G coverage and automatic switching between the different connections yadda yadda...

Yeah its pretty deep, all i know is it has been fantastic since Sense has been off my phone

JupiterDroid said:
Ok, i unchecked under location, determine location by wifi towers.... Went to download that 114mb file again,
Worked 100 percent.
downloaded in just under 10 mins no hang))
so its solved!!
JD
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Just to clarify here, switching rom and radio on your phone did not solve the issue as there was still a dropout, but what has fixed it is disabling the location, what do you mean location by wifi towers?

[Q] 3g signal weak after constant flashing??

Hey guys my 3g is not as fast anymore after constant flashing of roms and radios and now I never get over 500kbps..any suggestions?

I've been having the same problem! I seen somewhere about reconnecting your phone with Sprint towers, but can't find the post about it again anywhere.

Did yall try updating your profile?

shdwboy said:
Did yall try updating your profile?
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Ive updated my radios, prl, profile..and I always do complete wipes and wipe multiple times before I install a rom..also I tried that data govenor removal mod and still nothing..i really dont want to unroot and bring to sprint to replace

Sorry but thats all i got. Ive noticed sometimes i get bad reception but i havnt up dated my radios since fresh 3.4 came out. Ive been running cm for a long time so that might be it but its not enough to make me flash back to sense to fix it. I hope you get everything figured out.

shdwboy said:
Sorry but thats all i got. Ive noticed sometimes i get bad reception but i havnt up dated my radios since fresh 3.4 came out. Ive been running cm for a long time so that might be it but its not enough to make me flash back to sense to fix it. I hope you get everything figured out.
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Hey no problem man I appreciated the help..I guess my next move will be to flash fresh Rom..the speed seems to come and go on myns rls 5 but on any other Rom speed is completely horrible but let's see..ill get back with results.

I've been having the same issues. I've noticed when running the speedtest app sometimes it detects the closest server being over in Europe (I'm from Wisconsin). It appears to be tower related. When I'm on the tower closest to my house it detects the closest location in Missouri? Awkward. I'm on CM 6.1.2 running snap 7.6 with turbo enabled. Most times I see speeds of .3 mbit. Turn on wifi and I instantly max out my connection at 8 mbit. If only 3g were that fast, lol.

Ginger Villain and WiFi

I have been on Ginger Villain 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 and i have had this problem.
When the wifi is connected, i would say once every five minutes it disconects and re-connects again. Even though this process takes a few seconds, it is very annoying when im on skype as it terminates the call.
I have set the wifi sleep policy to never. I have never had this problem on stock, modaco, and Robo HD roms.
One thing to note, i originally thought this was a gingerbread 2.3 problem. Too see if was true, i flashed the new modaco 2.3 rom and it was fine. I was using skype and other apps for over an hour and it did not disconnect.
So why is this happening in ginger villain?

One thing to note.
I live in a flat and therefore the wifi signal has always been quite low BUT it has always connected without any problems.
Could it be that GV 2.3 decreases wifi signal strength?

I have flashed the latest radio and ril which seems to have fixed it.
But now I am getting graphical issues as the screen is flashing and acting very weird on certain apps.

Anyone got any ideas?

I'm currently on 1.3 GV and have the same issue with the Wifi, about to try a different Kernel to see if it helps.
I've also noticed a decreased signal, I can be standing right next to my router and not receiving absolute full signal... Think it may be a ROM issue?
You have to remember these ROMs ain't perfect and each one seems to have it's flaws, but the dev's are getting there!

What kernel will you try?

Strange. I have no problem with wi-fi. Signal as well as on the stock rom. In the router logs no disconnects.
Kernel: 1.6 HAVS 1113Mhz + BFS from Villain setup
Radio: 32.44.00.32H_5.09.05.30_2

It is very strange, I have tried different radio's but still can't fix it.
Under normal internet use, it is quite difficult to tell that the connection has dis connected and reconnected as it only takes a few.seconds.
When using Skype or Google talk, you can tell and its very annoying.

n1blo said:
I'm currently on 1.3 GV and have the same issue with the Wifi, about to try a different Kernel to see if it helps.
I've also noticed a decreased signal, I can be standing right next to my router and not receiving absolute full signal... Think it may be a ROM issue?
You have to remember these ROMs ain't perfect and each one seems to have it's flaws, but the dev's are getting there!
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Did you manage to fix this with a different kernel?

I am so glad I have finally found someone with the same issue as me! I have a relatively weak wifi signal (distance) from my hub to my room where I use my desire. On apps like youtube or bbc iplayer, it would suddenly turn off wifi and then reconnect all of a sudden. It meant watching anything with these apps is a nightmare. And I have always had it set to wifi sleep - never. I have never had this problem with any other ROM and I have tried loads. I originally put it down to my already tempermental internet, but I have now ruled this out. This is specifically a GV ROM issue.
GV 1.0 - 1.4 all had the same issue. Then, yesterday much to my surprise I saw in the 1.5 change log that one of the changes was that 1.5 "should fix the wifi sleep bug".
Last night, I tried iPlayer as usual, but I believe the problem still persists. I now don't know what to do. I will try resetting the wifi hub to defaults and so on, but I really don't think it will make a difference. I could try flashing a new kernal, but again I don't see how it would make a difference. Then I thought maybe a new radio, but I don't see the need. I'm using the latest official desire radio, and it works flawlessly on everything else.
So, I'm out of ideas, and my patience is slowly dying. I love the ROM for all its worth. It works perfectly, except for this. But for me, stable wifi is a deal breaker. I might need to try something else like amethyst.

Yes, sounds exactly like my problem. There Is a problem with Ginger villain as it works fine on other Roms.
I have tried so many different kernel's, radios and ril's but to no luck.
The only last solution I can think of other than to change rom is to try the modaco kernel. But the problem with that is, its not available seperately so we need someone to extract it from the rom.

I've got a strange issue with my HTC Desire and GV 2.5 :
at home, it doesn't even detect my Wifi (others devices do, of course), while at work it works perfectly.
The security is the same (WPA2/AES) between work and home, so I don't see any explanation... do you think it can be caused by the channel used ?
Frederic

Q: Anyone else having really weak wifi signal/dropping issues??

I just tried connecting to my Wifi at work...and I have really low signal...meanwhile, my Nook Color has full bars...anyone else having this problem? Was running CM7RC4 updated to CM7 Final...still same thing...

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing while running CM7. I was on stock Sense before and was getting really strong Wi-Fi signals. Then after going through CM7 nightlies, RC's, and now I'm on CM7 Final I am still getting quite weak signal strength.
Now the trade off is that I get much better battery life from CM7 than from Sense. So I'm okay with it...

Really? No one else?

I've been *****ing about this and no one responds to me like I'm crazy. Cm7 has weak wifi as compared to sense. It seems to even get weaker when I'm holding it with my left hand. When I hold with my right hand it boost right back up. This has been a problem since cm6 but like I said people think I'm *****ing; I know they're aware of this but I guess they can't explain why sense has better wifi reception/performance.
~ d3rk

Yeah...I get the same thing man...but it's weird...my Nook Color running CM7 doesn't do it...

I switch back and forth from MIUI to MikFroyo pretty often. Although WiFi and 3G show stronger signals in Sense, the actual performance/reception is the same. I think AOSP signal strength indicators are more true to life...and Sense pads the numbers. Download Real Signal and test it...dBs are the same no matter what ROM you're on.

My Wifi Drops
I've noticed a similar issue, the AOSP ROMs do have a sightly different number of "bars" for 2g/3g/voice, and I can still make and receive calls when it says I have service.
But my wifi (as many others) does seem to suffer, I actually lose connection some places in my house, where previously running a Sense ROM I did not. Happens at work as well. I did read in another thread other people confirming that the wifi drivers in AOSP are not as good as the sense ones, in addition the GPS drivers seem to have issues as well. No one seems to know why yet, just that it happens. I haven't confirmed dBm levels between the two, but I will probably do that tonight.

RavenII said:
I just tried connecting to my Wifi at work...and I have really low signal...meanwhile, my Nook Color has full bars...anyone else having this problem? Was running CM7RC4 updated to CM7 Final...still same thing...
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yep. seeing the same thing.. I can barely see the networks around me.. -m

was there ever a fix for this issue

There is a freedom patch which fixes this.
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artie-chimney said:
There is a freedom patch which fixes this.
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Link, please?

I don't have a link because I used ROM Manager to download it. ROM Manager is nice and I am pretty sure you can download this patch with the free version.
Or google Aggressive-Freedom-v0.8.5-UNIVERSAL-signed.zip
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[Q] Wifi Dropout Problem Persists: Someone, Please Help!

I'm getting really frustrated now. This problem is a real nuisance for me, as I use my Desire a lot solely for this purpose.
In my room, the wifi signal has always been pretty weak, generally only getting 1/2 bars. However, the connection is stable and still about 6mbps. This is never usually a problem for my Desire, it picks up the connection and everything works great. Stock Froyo, Sense Froyo, Sense Gingerbread, Sense V2 Gingerbread, Miui Froyo and Miui Gingerbread all operate flawlessly.
However, I now have a bit of a problem. It seems most Gingerbread AOSP ROM's cause the wifi to play up. I have tried GingerVillain, Oxygen, Redux and finally now my favourite CM7. The wifi constantly drops out and loses connection, and then takes a good 30+ seconds to reconnect. The dropouts can be as frequent as every few minutes, and generally it never lasts 4+ minutes in iplayer without losing connection. If I am just casually browsing, I don't notice. But when I am watching something on youtube or iplayer, the constant dropouts make the experience so horrible it isn't worth the effort.
What's more, there is some odd bug with the iplayer app where once a dropout happens, the audio and video goes out of sync and so on etc. All in all, it makes streaming video unusable, and this was a main reason for me buying a smartphone.
I really don't know what the problem is, but I really would appreciate some help. I would say it was a gingerbread problem, but as stated above, there are many gingerbread roms which don't cause me the same issue. Similarly, I've used an array of different radio's and kernals on each ROM. They make no difference. It depends purely on which ROM I am using. I've tried resetting the bt home hub, restoring it to factory, changing security type, moving it's position and so on. I'm pretty sure it's a ROM / Phone issue though as it works fine with other ROMS. Phone wise, I've set wifi policy to never and set a static IP address. It makes no difference. I still get wifi dropouts!
For reference sake, I'm using the latest stock Radio - 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27 and Kernal 2.6.37.4-cyanogenmod-82245..... and obviously CM7 7.0.2.
Please someone help? I'm actually considering upgrading just to solve this. It is absolutely doing my nut in, and I am totally out of ideas or solutions.
Thanks.

Maby a weird thing but on what channel is your wifi broadcasting ?
I had almost the same problem when my wifi was on channel 12. Now on channel 3 there is no more problem.
Not that any other wifi's broadcasting here. It is just that I've got the feeling that android has a problem with "high" channels.

flitz said:
Maby a weird thing but on what channel is your wifi broadcasting ?
I had almost the same problem when my wifi was on channel 12. Now on channel 3 there is no more problem.
Not that any other wifi's broadcasting here. It is just that I've got the feeling that android has a problem with "high" channels.
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It was on 10 and 11.
I'll switch to 3 and give it a try. Also, I'm going to try flashing the Gingerbread Sense Drivers and RIL.

Hi,
I've also had a similar problem for quite a while now (1-2 weeks). I used my wireless connection on my standard out of factory ROM on my home wifi network, my families wifi networks and my work wifi networks without _any_ problems.
When this problem started acting up I'd start my wifi connection, it would work for like a minute or so (not dependant on the amount of data transmitted or something, idle would last as long as while downloading), and then lose connection.
The strange thing is that it indicates it is fully connected at full strength but can not establish _any_ internet connection whatsoever.
My 3G connection to my network (I live in the Netherlands) works nicely, but it isn't as fast as wifi, so this limits me quite a bit (especially at work, indoors).
I've just tried to upgrade to CM7, but doesn't give any better results. I haven't tried upgrading my RADIO, but I don't really want to if I don't have to.
Any clues what I could do to fix this?

I'm experiencing similar problems.I changed from channel 11 to 4, but it really hasn't helped. I have also set up a portable wifi (netcomm). It runs on channel 3. The network sim is quite slow but the signal strength is much steadier. My faster speedstream completely drops out. I understand this "pulsing" of signal is normal, but mine is beyond the pale.
My acer netbook doesn't demonstrate any dropout issues.
Im running an A501 3.0.1. No upgrade yet for me here in australia. But, I'm wondering if this is just poor hardware.

could try a different Radio.. the latest stock one from the new official gingerbread is in my signature..
MD5: 432ED609D76AE57BA493DA875CDC9D2D

further to my difficulty with wifi drop outs, I'm pleased to say that it appears that my problems probably are related to my home wifi, a Speedstream.
I'm currently spending a week on a houseboat and I've been using a netcomm myzone wifi fitted with a sim card from a prepaid Dodo broadband usb.
I've not had any problem with it. Granted, I've had it close by, but it still seems to work fine when I'm at the other end of the houseboat.
So my acer A501 seems to be behaving itself here. Perhaps, something is causing the speedstream to vary it's signal strength so drastically.

@OP - I posted a thread a few weeks ago about having exactly the same problems as you with AOSP ROM's and weak wifi signals. Once I went to a Sense ROM the wifi signal was great. I prefer the AOSP ROM's so I upgraded my Radio to the latest version but it didn't help at all, I didn't see any change when using wi-fi analyser.
I'm currently using CM7 ROM and just putting up with the weak signal. I'm glad it's not just me though.