More and more custom mods on this site are moving to another forum, and posts in forum sections seems to point away from xda forum when you click download?
Is it really getting so bad for xda forum, that developers starts to link outside this forum?
Seems the rules around this forum are getting to strict.
Anyone else noticed?
Only ones ive ever seen linking to a different forum are villain roms,
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Problem is...No other community would have such a large fan base, XDA has well over 400K users I'm assuming, finding another development site like this would be hard. XDA has been around for some time, and many are using this place to share their work and work with others. If Devs leave perm, they won't have as much of an impact IMHO.
It is better as a developer for your portfolio to link your work from your own site. just because a developer links to his own site does not mean they are leaving this wonderful site. XDA in my opinion is far better than Microsofts apphub forums any day plus most are nice here compared to other sites.
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It is better as a developer for your portfolio to link your work from your own site. just because a developer links to his own site does not mean they are leaving this wonderful site. XDA in my opinion is far better than Microsofts apphub forums any day plus most are nice here compared to other sites.
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Most are nice... But its been getting worse. Back when winmo ruled xda, I never saw near the amount of flaming or just terrible conduct in general. Thus this new "iron fist" method by the mods.
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No, but some developers are dropping devices... Such as the G2x.
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Ok, I just noticed a desire rom and i remember several roms from acer and asus being on other sites as well.
maybe just team specific, but it seems a little strange that i find it here, and then in some cases i need to register to download from another site. could also just be a way to pull some members to their site.
The only devs that leave are the ones that aren't getting their own way, and leave in the huff because they think they are entitled to more. No one forces them to leave.
There are still a huge number of devs still producing great work on xda
The developers have two options:
Either post their developments in this forum
Or host their developments on their personal dedicated website.
Most of the developers follow both the routes. I doubt if there's any other option, that can get them an instant large user-base.
a very good example is CyanogenMod
he has his own website/forum, yet his ROMs are everywhere
so it's not strange to see ROMs here linked out to their own download places
as there are Thousand if not Million of fans for any given ROM
some DEV can afford their own website, some other cannot, and they will just host it where they feel more comfortable with as simple as that
I'm guessing having your own website helps with getting ad revenue and such? But in order to get traffic, you really have to be on XDA.
A lot of devs are leaving due to issues with users, other devs, and the mods. The mods don't always make the best decisions and don't care to explain their actions. The users always ask for things that annoy the devs. The devs argue about who kang'd what, stole code here, etc. It's pretty childish conduct for a forum made by adults.
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A lot of devs are leaving due to issues with users, other devs, and the mods. The mods don't always make the best decisions and don't care to explain their actions. The users always ask for things that annoy the devs. The devs argue about who kang'd what, stole code here, etc. It's pretty childish conduct for a forum made by adults.
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True.
The site has seems less helpful than before too.
originalone said:
More and more custom mods on this site are moving to another forum, and posts in forum sections seems to point away from xda forum when you click download?
Is it really getting so bad for xda forum, that developers starts to link outside this forum?
Seems the rules around this forum are getting to strict.
Anyone else noticed?
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It's more or less model/dev/team specific.
XDA is more or less an American site and so phones used widely in US have active development in XDA.
I have an LG GT540 Optimus. Most of the ROMs/Guides/Apps for this phone on XDA come from and are linked to Russian forums. This is due to the reason that active developers for this phone come from Russia and don't care about English much.
Plus, most downloads are linked to file distributions networks since XDA has an upper 8MB file size limits.
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It's more or less model/dev/team specific.
XDA is more or less an American site and so phones used widely in US have active development in XDA.
I have an LG GT540 Optimus. Most of the ROMs/Guides/Apps for this phone on XDA come from and are linked to Russian forums. This is due to the reason that active developers for this phone come from Russia and don't care about English much.
Plus, most downloads are linked to file distributions networks since XDA has an upper 8MB file size limits.
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So, most of the real developers here came from Russia?
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So, most of the real developers here came from Russia?
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No duh. Most of the developers for my phone, LG GT540 Optimus.
Devs for other models might be from other countries. Most of the XDA devs who use XDA as primary forum would be from US.
nibras_reeza said:
No duh. Most of the developers for my phone, LG GT540 Optimus.
Devs for other models might be from other countries. Most of the XDA devs who use XDA as primary forum would be from US.
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yes for but mur4ik is not Russian.
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yes for but mur4ik is not Russian.
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He is not American either. =P He comes from around Russia/Europe, I believe.
nibras_reeza said:
It's more or less model/dev/team specific.
XDA is more or less an American site and so phones used widely in US have active development in XDA.
I have an LG GT540 Optimus. Most of the ROMs/Guides/Apps for this phone on XDA come from and are linked to Russian forums. This is due to the reason that active developers for this phone come from Russia and don't care about English much.
Plus, most downloads are linked to file distributions networks since XDA has an upper 8MB file size limits.
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Xda is NOT an American site. Do your research first. It's home is in Europe.....Just because the rules require users to post on English doesn't mean this is an American site.. ..
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Xda is NOT an American site. Do your research first. It's home is in Europe.....Just because the rules require users to post on English doesn't mean this is an American site.. ..
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I didn't say XDA is American in origin. But, most of the devices in here are the devices sold around America. That's why I said more or less American. =)
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I posted a new thread earlier asking advice on how to get my money back from some criminally acting devs of the game app "Bakery Story " and my thread was removed,why are mods encouraging criminal behavior or are they in league with these app devs and doesn't want people to know the truth about these loopholes. Also this is general section and I see a lot of questions being asked here, on a last note isn't xda about enlightenment and education to the users? .
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Perhaps you presented your inquiries in a slanderous manner, based on your approach this time around Id bet that that was the case. Xda is a developers community and without proof or first addressing the developer, attacking them is really no way to initially present yourself.
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Perhaps you presented your inquiries in a slanderous manner, based on your approach this time around Id bet that that was the case. Xda is a developers community and without proof or first addressing the developer, attacking them is really no way to initially present yourself.
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Believe me in no way would I have posted without trying every possible methods of retrieving my money .
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Well, what exactly occurred? I know you explained it once but some of the mods have a rather cavalier attitude and it sounds as though it's be suitable for this section.
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Please contact via PM to the Moderator who apparently deleted your thread, sure there will be a reason.
nerogold, you currently have 2 threads, one in off-topic and one in the thunderbold section.
I can't see that either of these were ever deleted.
I've been a "watcher" too long in this community. It's time to contribute back what I can.
I have a server doing nothing, and I'd love to waste as much bandwidth as I can.
If you're a developer for a ROM, and you'd like to have PHP, FTP, perl, sql, etc support, please reply to this thread or message me directly, and I'd be more than happy to get things set up for you ASAP. This is a new device, with a fantastic development community, and I think every developer deserves a chance for success. An email address, along with a website will help accomplish this for determined individuals. I don't plan on ever letting go of the domain names, or the server that I have.
Cheers you guys.
P.S. > Also, if someone wouldn't mind helping keep this thread active by posting articles or links to publishers with books available to teach me how to develop, that would be fantastic. I know this fits a little closer with "General", but its important, I think, that developers get involved in this, because of the huge possibility of misinformation.
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Great idea.
+1
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Here's a good article to get started, from the man himself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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Good idea +1
I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general, because now it is probably never going to be read by the developers. If by any chance you know someone who is developing roms for the sgsii, or how to get ahold of people who are, i would love to spearhead this project and get their hosting up asap. I would love to have a website for your rom, a central hub for tools, resources, and links, but i dont have any of the web development knowledge or background to even know what cms software would work best. Ive installed hundreds of vbulletin boards back in the day (when pirating vbulletin and ipb was fun). I know how to use cpanel very well, how to modify apache and php settings, and how to setup mysql, but i guess ive been out of the loop too long. Help me out guys. Lets get a website going for these awesome developers.
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Awesome +1
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Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).
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Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).
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If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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I think I'm going to need to install some sort of software on my server to host the downloads. Then the guides and descriptions all fall into place. I'm just not sure. I think it'd be a good idea.
I suggest posting on skyrockets (I727 sister device nearly identical) forum as well, in order to really stir interest...
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I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general,
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you might have not noticed, but the DEVs do read the General forum as well
in fact we keep asking people to keep the comments on General, unless they are of development value, then they should reply back to the DEV topic
but as usual newbies never listen
Seeing as this is a discussion about XDA and not about general phones, I thought this is the most appropriate place to put this thread. I have also checked for similar threads but have found nothing.
If a mod thinks otherwise I am sorry for posting in the wrong place.
I have created this thread as you can probably tell, to ask why there is no iOS in the listed platforms on XDA.
With iOS on XDA the site itself will recieve: - A much much larger audience
- More users
So why not include it.
This is not a request even though it may seem like it. There is obviously a reason as to why there is no iOS and I simply want to root it out. Even if it only takes one or two posts and the thread has to be moved around by mods for posting in the incorrect place.
Please contribute to the thread. I have also created a poll. If you do not have time to leave a comment, use the poll.
Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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"Knowledge is power" = Read, Read, Read!
Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.
I wouldn't know because I've never owned an apple product. I've only ever used them whilst trying to sort problems out for my family & friends who own them.
I just simply couldn't own one because I mainly customize my phone through widgets, launchers etc. There isn't the ability to do that from iOS.
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baddaman54 said:
Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.
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I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.
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I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.
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Thanks for letting me know about the font. I just thought it was clearer for people to read. :laugh: Now I see why people write in this font so much.
Well at least someone said it.
i have used iphone 3g and 4s but for me iphone is a crap but there are lots of stuffs/mods that you can do with an android phone but you cant do it in an iphone
That is true. I've always loved android for that. But because so many hipsters get iphone. The support is through the roof. Jailbreak will permit anything.
I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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"Knowledge is power" = Read, Read, Read!
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I agree with this, also i belive that iOS has such a large following it needs it's own dedicated forum, as give it a section under platforms would not be enough.
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I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.
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Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.
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What about iPhone developers? They have a site. And the differences can lead to mayhem.
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Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feelings.
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You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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He can still close this
And I'm not joking...
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iOS has its own forum unlike android or any other operating system. Why not use that
go on some <No idea>iOS forum.. :laugh:
Ios on xda... let's not mess with that pandora's box...
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gljiva said:
go on some gayiOS forum.. :laugh:
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Think before typing or don't type at all :laugh:
Hey. Wondering why cymod10 isn't getting work on it? Just curious how this all works. Thanks.
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source keeps on updating daily...
Once that is stable ul get full working cm10
patience bro
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Wut???
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So there is a group or team that develops the rom(aokp, cm10), and when they put new builds out individuals pick then up and do the writing necessary to run a partocular device?
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there's no "groups or teams" we BUILD CM10\AOKP\PA all from source i work on Base rom's which is CM9\CM10\AOSP when the CM* rom's get stable enough i pass them to maxwen and he finishes them off, which gives me free time to de-stress and spend time with girlfriend and work on other projects.
for CDMA JMZtaylor builds the Base rom's which are CM9\CM10
we work together......seeing threads like this drives me up the wall
Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Dude,
XDA is NOT a support site of any kind.
It is a forum for developers, yes it has grown massivley over the years, but in general most folks on here are at least kinda techie, geeky, or both. There are also many users who just want to download cool stuff. There is nothing wrong with that but devs get annoyed when "users" don't want to take the time to learn forum rules, read, or do a bit of research.
Every dev on here is a volunteer, they do what they do because they enjoy it, and like being involved in a community of like minded folk who know the devices we spend our cold hard cash on are usually capable of much more than manufacturers like to release. Yes, there are "teams" large and small but they do not get paid for this, work under deadlines, or are expected to provide any support.
I don't mean to sound too cold, but with a little reading and research you could have found out all you needed to know about the CM team, AOKP, etc AND read in Lior's dev thread that his build is UNOFFICIAL meaning not an officially supported device by the actual aokp team. Even if it were an officially supported device that would not mean timetables, support, or warranty. Seriously, do a little research.
And understand, when you joined in August what number were you? Did you watch the "you are a noob" video, I made my son watch that when he joined. There are LOTS of new people here who demand, are rude etc. I am not saying that you are necasarily one of them, but when each device can count the number of devs on two hands or less, compared to the number of registered XDA users and you can see how a dev like Lior could get upset at your lack of wanting to read.
In the future, until you have contributed to this forum please refrain from even using sarcasm with a respected dev. Read, learn, and I hope you enjoy XDA, but remeber it is a developer forum, not a noob support site.
Regards.
Edit: ahhhh, just realized I kept typing Lior, and not Lloir, my apologies Dude.
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This has gone about as far as it needs to.
Today 25/04/14! Developer: (Achotjan)
Of Recognized Roms (SDE) and the current firmware (Xperia Overlay) To The Xperia Line 2011 (Included Xperia Play Cooming Soon Mod Edit link removed ah this statement on their website:
so they had read in the image ..
the nesecita our help by sending PM to manager (eagleeyetom) to withdraw its decision and that it was unfair ..
I hope all Xplayers community support it ..!
I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.
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I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.
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What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.
oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..
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What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.
oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..
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The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.
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The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.
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But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?
well he is going to release a free version after one month
developer of dixperia roms did something like this too but why no one told anything to him?
XDA doesn't seem to be on the right side of things on this.. atleast they don't sound like they have a logical reason to be right.
Overlay team was doing right,.. that's my opinion.
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But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?
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They do have an area for announcing paid software, but that's the only place it's permitted.
XDA doesn't sell ROMs directly, just advertising and stuff like that.
There could be 1000 reasons, but they're really between the dev and XDA. Only one side of the story is given by a blog post and most people aren't going to admit they were wrong and then ask for donations.
How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem sorry
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How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem sorry
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Well known Recognised Developer team that works on 4.4 for Xperia 2011 devices(including xplay), has built their own 4.4.2 firmware. They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public. Apparently XDA didn't like that, and revoked their recognised developer status and deleted the thread. The development team is asking us to PM the forum administrators and show our disagreement on the matter.
Also, achtojan hasn't posted anything in the past 3 days on xda since this happened, can't blame him.
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XDA FORUM RULES - #11
So basically they should have just made the mandatory donate version on their personal website, then when it goes free they could have posted it on xda and still accept donations. The rules aren't very well laid out concerning this. It certainly doesn't justify revoking their RD status.
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XDA FORUM RULES - #11
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Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF
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They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public.
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They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.
But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..
I agree. This is against everything that Android and XDA stand for.
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Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry
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But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..
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omg.... another person... have you even read the thread? its a donated version the free will be here in 1 month... no one is donating to him and yet everyone is complaing
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Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry
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this seriously doesnt make sense i dont know what youre trying to say so i cant really reply to this
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Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF
They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.
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They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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The problem is, that all of they're firmware can only be obtained for a fee. That is against the rules. If they posted a link to a donate and free version then it would be fine, but everything they linked to is for money. Not OK.
That makes sense. If that's really the case, I'm on XDA's side.