Today 25/04/14! Developer: (Achotjan)
Of Recognized Roms (SDE) and the current firmware (Xperia Overlay) To The Xperia Line 2011 (Included Xperia Play Cooming Soon Mod Edit link removed ah this statement on their website:
so they had read in the image ..
the nesecita our help by sending PM to manager (eagleeyetom) to withdraw its decision and that it was unfair ..
I hope all Xplayers community support it ..!
I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.
WhiteWashed said:
I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.
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What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.
oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..
yekasangredevago said:
What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.
oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..
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The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.
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The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.
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But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?
well he is going to release a free version after one month
developer of dixperia roms did something like this too but why no one told anything to him?
XDA doesn't seem to be on the right side of things on this.. atleast they don't sound like they have a logical reason to be right.
Overlay team was doing right,.. that's my opinion.
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But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?
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They do have an area for announcing paid software, but that's the only place it's permitted.
XDA doesn't sell ROMs directly, just advertising and stuff like that.
There could be 1000 reasons, but they're really between the dev and XDA. Only one side of the story is given by a blog post and most people aren't going to admit they were wrong and then ask for donations.
How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem sorry
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Frutak said:
How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem sorry
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Well known Recognised Developer team that works on 4.4 for Xperia 2011 devices(including xplay), has built their own 4.4.2 firmware. They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public. Apparently XDA didn't like that, and revoked their recognised developer status and deleted the thread. The development team is asking us to PM the forum administrators and show our disagreement on the matter.
Also, achtojan hasn't posted anything in the past 3 days on xda since this happened, can't blame him.
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XDA FORUM RULES - #11
So basically they should have just made the mandatory donate version on their personal website, then when it goes free they could have posted it on xda and still accept donations. The rules aren't very well laid out concerning this. It certainly doesn't justify revoking their RD status.
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XDA FORUM RULES - #11
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Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF
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They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public.
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They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.
But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..
I agree. This is against everything that Android and XDA stand for.
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Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry
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But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..
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omg.... another person... have you even read the thread? its a donated version the free will be here in 1 month... no one is donating to him and yet everyone is complaing
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Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry
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this seriously doesnt make sense i dont know what youre trying to say so i cant really reply to this
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Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF
They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.
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They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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The problem is, that all of they're firmware can only be obtained for a fee. That is against the rules. If they posted a link to a donate and free version then it would be fine, but everything they linked to is for money. Not OK.
That makes sense. If that's really the case, I'm on XDA's side.
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I just want to Thank everyone on xda for helping me to fix/flashing roms/rooting/s-off my galaxy s3 and DHD. And not even thanked individually everyone for using there Rom/mods/tweaks/guide.
But I can help if some wants to mirror his data on dropbox. As I have 100gb space. Just let me know I'll download your file upload to my dropbox and send you a link. Can't post a direct link as I am a kid on xda
Sorry for my bad English iam from India
Love you all
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This website is the best of internet for mobiles.
The work and support of the users of XDA is incredible.
Thank's!
Good thing to hear that you're enjoying the site.
XDA is the best mobile support website forever.
XDA is indeed a great site
It's one of those few sites that makes me look forward to things.
I've been on XDA so much these last days when there is new JB releases here and there for the S3. Great fun.
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the greatest development forum
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Wow. That's such an insightful post.
It's really quite shocking that out of approximately 4.5 million users that you'd think you're the only user here who thinks that this is "the greatest development forum".
May I make a suggestion?
Instead of jumping through random threads across XDA to tell people pointless stuff just to get up to 10 posts, you actually devote a bit of your time to reading threads such as :-
Forum Rules
Postcount limit in the developmental fora
Get the most out of XDA
XDA New User Guide
Now, you might be thinking that reading all of them might take quite a bit of time, and you're right. But it's either spend the time to read and follow what is said in those threads, or keep on doing what you are and quickly find that a moderator has deleted your posts because they're spamming.
The choice is yours
Oh, and please don't think that those threads were written for people like you just to ignore. That would be a really silly presumption to make and you'd quickly find out that those threads are in place to make this a much better place for all of us.
However, if you're struggling to think of how to get a legitimate 10 posts, then you should start off by answering peoples question in the General and Q&A sections for your device.
Much obliged
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And if you think that's tl;dr (too long;didn't read), please refer to this.
KidCarter93 said:
And if you think that's tl;dr (too long;didn't read), please refer to this.
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Why You Little!!!
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Why You Little!!!
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It done its job then
Successful troll is successful
lol 'course :laugh:
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Ohh boy...
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Ohh boy...
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I was tempted to do the same kinda thing again, but the thread will get closed if it's just full of my rants
Successful troll is successful
This is the best forum for development!
I request mods to close this thread, as its soon turning to a "Yes, I'll get my 10 post here!" thread...
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I request mods to close this thread, as its soon turning to a "Yes, I'll get my 10 post here!" thread...
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True
Thread closed
Just noticed its been locked for ever... The one with jb aroma... What's wrong with it?
I haven't seen any of his work lately, just curious...
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I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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Noobiologist said:
I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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So is he banned now or something?
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So is he banned now or something?
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Yeah, probably. That's what usually happens.
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he's still deving
See note 2 development
I think he still devs for us, too
Just not that Rom
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Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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chrisram88 said:
Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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shahkam said:
He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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Im not against the rules or anything else Im sure they are helpful for the bigger picture.:cyclops: I am however stating its ironic that he did better with there stuff than they did. IMO when a dev does that its usually buggy or simply not as good , his roms were always up to date and he had stuff out much quicker than others.
At the end of the day everyone here is modding someone elses work to begin with so getting banned for using a modification to an open source or Samsung based software is just weird to me.
Isnt that why theres two dev forums to begin with ?
Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
evil1art said:
He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Doesn't matter. You don't give credit you get banned. Thievery!!!!!!!:thumbup:
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Credit is the least he can ask. Do you know or even have an idea how long it takes to make a rom? De compiling recompiling apks tweaking smali. **** I tried to theme a couple pngs and 15 toggles and it took me a couple days just reading to figure out what to do! They have to edit a lot of files. It's long tedious work and they do it all for free!!
Regardless if it was based off Google code. They edited and made it unique. It is now theirs. For example for school you have to write a paper about Lincoln. You research about Lincoln and final write your paper. What your saying is that the paper you wrote is not yours because you pretty much just reworded facts you read online. (provided you didn't copy paste) the paper is now your own paper that you can claim rights too.
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not banned
WC has personal health issues and chose to close his public site for a bit. He has not been Banned and has some awesome new stuff for both the Htc Vivid and the new Htc One. He has been going through a lot and hopefully will be back up and running soon. Gary
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Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
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Dear XDA Moderators,
I don't know the reason why, but Tamirda's PhoeniX ROM thread has been closed due to pending investigation.
I'd like to speak on behalf of all (probably thausands) users of this great ROM and kindly ask you to give us back our forum.
@PhoeniX users: Please show your commitment by adding a comment here.
Thank you all!
+1 to Reopen
Anyways similar thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218523
I think a lot of people would agree with this but from what I have seen the dev of the rom has a bit of an attitude problem but I admit his rom is great.
What would be even better is if the mod team would give more info on whats going on instead of just basicly saying ha this is locked!
Anywho +1
songokuk said:
I think a lot of people would agree with this but from what I have seen the dev of the rom has a bit of an attitude problem but I admit his rom is great.
What would be even better is if the mod team would give more info on whats going on instead of just basicly saying ha this is locked!
Anywho +1
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Agreed, his rom is good, but he's a prick.
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songokuk said:
I think a lot of people would agree with this but from what I have seen the dev of the rom has a bit of an attitude problem but I admit his rom is great.
What would be even better is if the mod team would give more info on whats going on instead of just basicly saying ha this is locked!
Anywho +1
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I know what you're saying and I don't want to excuse any violation of the forum rules, but this guy is just 17 years old and we must not expect him to act as cool-headed as we probably had when receiving such insulting messages. However he did apologize and that should be enough in my view.
But as you wrote, I'm too just guessing the reason for the close-down
I read they did reopen.
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His name is very well known to us all as one of the BEST developers around. Not taking from other devs...but this guy is magic.
It seems XDA has pulled his RT status over a minor infraction....and now he cant post roms, updates, etc.
A petition was started on S4 forums. Go over there and say ur piece. We cant loose this guy.
Im typing this post with NO influence from anyone. I just want to help a guy out that gives us awesome roms, themes, tweaks, etc FOR FREE!!
So head over there now
Go S4 General topic
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PM a local moderator and let them know why evil1art should be a recognized developer!
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Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44388175
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Can't you post ROM's and updates as a senior member?
Go to the link
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Just do as Evil says, follow his social stuff. Seems like there was enough bad blood there that he doesn't even want to be here on XDA anymore.
What was he accused of? Venom explained that he must have done things multiple times. What was he accused of?
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fatboy547 said:
What was he accused of? Venom explained that he must have done things multiple times. What was he accused of?
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From wut I read in the thread a dude told Evil that if he didn't apply the mods he wanted into the rom that he wouldn't donate to Evil. Evil told him hes not his rom whore and hopes he chokes. Told him he didn't need his donation
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I don't really think its any of our places to pry into that. At least not publicly.... I couldn't see any good coming out of it as too many people would be inclined to take sides and start flaming.
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I don't really think its any of our places to pry into that. At least not publicly.... I couldn't see any good coming out of it as too many people would be inclined to take sides and start flaming.
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No offense, but if he wanted to be named a Dev he would do what's required for him to do to get the name.
If he chooses not to then so be it, threads like this aren't needed.
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Your right. I saw the post. I guess im gonna stay out of it.
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Please spend 2 seconds to google Recognized Developer XDA. It requires the developer to fill out the application and agree to the Code of Conduct. Petitioning the moderators will have a negative result on the decision of the Developer Committee that reviews the application.
Code of Conduct terms are also required for RT and RC status. All RTs and RCs were informed that if they violate the rules and CoC they will lose their title for a defined period. We have rules here for a reason and expect all title holders to set an example of how to follow those rules. Also members are warned before an infraction occurs and are well aware of the rules they are breaking. If they say otherwise they are not stating the whole truth. Just like the RT/RC/RD's Moderators are also bound by these rules and Code of Conduct. Violations of that result in moderators being removed from their position. The rules are there for a reason, to keep some semblance of order on a site with over 5 million members.
Thanks you
FNM
Well as the title says I will be compiling a few roms from source but there will be no support for them from either me or the rom developers. There may be issue or there may not. All roms will be tested and will boot and have the core function working (call and mms) or I wont post them.
First rom here will be nameless rom. I have it compiled and working. I will upload it later and post it here.
Hey, that's great that you want to compile and contribute. But please do not post any untested builds and especially none in development if there is not going to be any support.
Thanks
FNSM
I can only speak for myself but I am thrilled to see this if they don't work I will delete it and restore a backup. Please keep the roms coming.
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KennyG123 said:
Hey, that's great that you want to compile and contribute. But please do not post any untested builds and especially none in development if there is not going to be any support.
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@KennyG123
Man can you not read? Or maybe you are just trying to be funny aka TROLL? It is clearly stated that they are tested. Also it says they will be posted here in general not development! You act like I am some stupid arse who might post some junk that could be harmful to someone's device. I compile and support many roms here on xda. People/users request many more than I have time to support so I decided to go this route to satisfy their request.
While I dont know who you are and dont really care. You act like you are some all powerful person when in fact you just have "big fish in little pond syndrome". If you dont like what I am doing then go on your way and keep your mouth shut.
Sorry everyone else for the rant these fools just annoy me. Been running nameless and it has not given me any issues. Enjoy. Look for more roms very soon.
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@KennyG123
Man can you not read? Or maybe you are just trying to be funny aka TROLL? It is clearly stated that they are tested. Also it says they will be posted here in general not development! You act like I am some stupid arse who might post some junk that could be harmful to someone's device. I compile and support many roms here on xda. People/users request many more than I have time to support so I decided to go this route to satisfy their request.
While I dont know who you are and dont really care. You act like you are some all powerful person when in fact you just have "big fish in little pond syndrome". If you dont like what I am doing then go on your way and keep your mouth shut.
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Sorry everyone else for the rant these fools just annoy me. Been running nameless and it has not given me any issues. Enjoy. Look for more roms very soon.
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Sir. It seems you are the one that cannot read and Note your post violates several rules. You need to watch your mouth. A simple "don't worry, they will be thoroughly tested would have sufficed. So stow the attitude tough guy.
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KennyG123 said:
Sir. It seems you are the one that cannot read and Note your post violates several rules. You need to watch your mouth. A simple "don't worry, they will be thoroughly tested would have sufficed. So stow the attitude tough guy.
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If you want attitude I can give you plenty. Kiss off. Read my first post that says they will be tested!!! I could care less if your a mod or not. You were out of place and called on it. Sorry it hurt you feelings but it is what it is.
In what post do I violate any rules?
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If you have an issue with any moderator actions on this site I suggest you deal with it privately
There are rules for member conduct and disrespect to anyone on this site will not be tolerated
A shame the OP did not read my post...I asked not to post any untested builds meaning in the future
I did not imply that any of these builds were untested. Instead the OP chose the low road instead of coming to me in private to discuss and clarify.