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Strange 4G behavior - beyond speed tests

I have been feeling out my 4G connection for awhile now, and I am still having a strange experience with it. Speed tests always give good results, but actually using 4G for daily tasks is not working out well so far. Often times it loads pages and market or maps slower than with 4G...
I had been having this off and on all week, but I thought it was just my poor 4g connection at home. Anyway, now I'm writing from a mall with a very strong connection. Now I'm noticing when I load a page or open maps/market, it actually disconnects from 4G and loads with 3G for a second or two then switches back..
I've been using fresh, dc, and bugless ROMs, and always with the latest radio. I've had to apply the 4G patch a few times to get 4G working, but once it's up, it behaves the same...
Is it the ROM, my phone, or the nature of 4G in philadelphia?

I'd guess it's the nature of the 4g. It's still a new market. One thing, the bars on your phone only show the connection to the tower, not the connection to the internet. My 4g has been like that in places around Dallas, but closer to the heart of Dallas, I get more consistent connection. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that just seems to be the nature of technology here on the bleeding edge.
I might add, that for whatever reason, I cannot load my XDA bookmark to the evo 4g page on 4g at all, but it loads fine on 3g or wifi. I have yet to understand that one. Other pages seem to load ok though.

I've also noticed issues on xda, I think it's related to flash. I noticed if I load flash only sites on 4G it never loads or takes a stupid long time... If I cut to 3G it loads fine... On xda, it's the flash ads..

Having the phone process information and display it is much different then just doing a speed test. I'm in Philly also - but only use the 4G for tethering.

rutter9 said:
Having the phone process information and display it is much different then just doing a speed test. I'm in Philly also - but only use the 4G for tethering.
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I agree completely, but the issue is that, on some pages (usually with flash) It loads and displays the information faster on 3G than on 4G... I'm not sure what would cause that. I'll try tethering and see if it's the same... I'll also try 4G when I'm in central philly...

I wonder if flash determines what quality to stream the content at? Like if you use sprint tv on 4g you will get higher quality video but it can be laggy trying to catch up to the stream. When on 3g the quality is a little less but doesn't skip around at all.

I'm having similar issues with my 4G connection. Some pages won't come up. The progress bar loads up to about 50% then either takes a really long time to bring up the page or not at all. All I get is a blank page. The xda forums are one of the sites I'm having problems with also. It loads up fine over 3G and WiFi. I'm currently running the OMJ rom, latest Radio, and the Fresh 4G fix. I'm not sure if the problem lies with my rooted Evo or the 4G network.

rutter9 said:
I wonder if flash determines what quality to stream the content at? Like if you use sprint tv on 4g you will get higher quality video but it can be laggy trying to catch up to the stream. When on 3g the quality is a little less but doesn't skip around at all.
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That makes sense to me. Still, it seems strange that the network or phone one struggles to keep up like that. Ah well, like I said, the nature of things out here on the bleeding edge.

i have experienced similar 4g/3g flipflopping behavior and pisspoor wifi. its like the radio is very slow to get a connection as coming out of the pocket and then while in use it will go to 3g then say it's found a 4g and get on that and back to 3g. sometimes i'll see 4g w/ full strength but am unable to do any internet functions (web browser, pandora, meebo, appbrain all fail indicating no network). by putting it into Airplane mode...count to 3...take it out of airplane mode the radio reconnects and is able to pass data as expected.
i have done full cache, delvikcache, (and the other whatchamacallit) formatting between builds. and cleared the cache after updating the radio (even tho i shouldn't need to for Fresh .3)
i have not fussed with App2SD nor anything Flash related.
not sure if i live/work on the "edge" of coverage or if it's EVO (software or hardware) related. I"m leaning more to the coverage at this point. between testing it more as i move around town and next weeks froyo builds maybe the 4g gods will shine down upon me.

Increase WiMAX_Idle_Sleep(s) setting
I had the same issue and found these instructions which show how to increase WiMAX_Idle_Sleep(s) setting.
hit ##DATA# > Edit mode.
Put in your msl code
Chose WIMAX
Scroll down to Wimax_Idle_Sleep
Change the value from 10 to 300.
Click menu, commit changes and restart the phone.
See ' [GUIDE] Easy way to get MSL without calling Sprint or using CMDA Workshop' to get MSL Code, or just call Sprint and ask for it.

mgshultz said:
I had the same issue and found these instructions which show how to increase WiMAX_Idle_Sleep(s) setting.
hit ##DATA# > Edit mode.
Put in your msl code
Chose WIMAX
Scroll down to Wimax_Idle_Sleep
Change the value from 10 to 300.
Click menu, commit changes and restart the phone.
See ' [GUIDE] Easy way to get MSL without calling Sprint or using CMDA Workshop' to get MSL Code, or just call Sprint and ask for it.
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I work in Philly and have the 3g 4g connection problems too. Your fix did not work for me. No matter what Rom or fix I've tried I can't keep a stable 4g connection without the stock Rom flashed. Sometimes WiFi tether will work on 4g with a custom Rom but anything else and I have all kinds of connection issues. I don't think its the network because 4g connection cards work just fine.
Edit: my main cause of concern is that simultaneous talk and data. I like to be able to talk and still follow sports scores while working. Sticking to stock for now.

(SOLVED) All users of CM6.XX and Ultimate Droid (AOSP) questions

I seem to have signal issues on both ROM's. I'll give you guys a little background information.
I've used Fresh and Myn ROM's and always get perfect 3G coverage in my house and around town. Everytime I flash an AOSP rom I can't seem to connect to anything but 1X (if I'm lucky). When I was using the 2 previously mentioned Sense ROM's I'd have no issues with data. For the record I don't do a restore of my system data or apps when I flash because I prefer to download everything again to prevent FC's and other issues.
I've done a nandroid restore and updated PRL and Profile in a Sense ROM (2X) and then restored my AOSP ROM (ultimate droid) and that doesn't fix signal issues. My girlfriend has an Evo and she gets perfect signal on 3G (4G as well but she has it off) so it's not network related.
I downloaded the latest radio and pri from the development thread and flashed them in recovery. That didn't do anything at all and may have been a waste of time.
I then did these steps:
Dialed *#*#463+#*#*
Clicked on Phone Info
Turned off Radio (waited 1 min)
Turned radio back on
Ran ping test (failed because of no data signal). I can make/receive calls but nothing data related.
Is anyone having this issue? This has prevented me from fully enjoying AOSP ROM's and I don't know what the issue is. I'm using the latest PRL but could it be that my radio is broken? I would ready appreciate any help.
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I'm typing this thread on my phone and it's displaying 3G in full bars and then jumps to 1X full bars. It's kind of random but never steady. If anyone can please help me with this I'd appreciate it.
By the way I have an Airrave. Could that be the cause of my problems?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

gqstatus0685 said:
I seem to have signal issues on both ROM's. I'll give you guys a little background information.
I've used Fresh and Myn ROM's and always get perfect 3G coverage in my house and around town. Everytime I flash an AOSP rom I can't seem to connect to anything but 1X (if I'm lucky). When I was using the 2 previously mentioned Sense ROM's I'd have no issues with data. For the record I don't do a restore of my system data or apps when I flash because I prefer to download everything again to prevent FC's and other issues.
I've done a nandroid restore and updated PRL and Profile in a Sense ROM (2X) and then restored my AOSP ROM (ultimate droid) and that doesn't fix signal issues. My girlfriend has an Evo and she gets perfect signal on 3G (4G as well but she has it off) so it's not network related.
I downloaded the latest radio and pri from the development thread and flashed them in recovery. That didn't do anything at all and may have been a waste of time.
I then did these steps:
Dialed *#*#463+#*#*
Clicked on Phone Info
Turned off Radio (waited 1 min)
Turned radio back on
Ran ping test (failed because of no data signal). I can make/receive calls but nothing data related.
Is anyone having this issue? This has prevented me from fully enjoying AOSP ROM's and I don't know what the issue is. I'm using the latest PRL but could it be that my radio is broken? I would ready appreciate any help.
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I'm typing this thread on my phone and it's displaying 3G in full bars and then jumps to 1X full bars. It's kind of random but never steady. If anyone can please help me with this I'd appreciate it.
By the way I have an Airrave. Could that be the cause of my problems?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Same. i have this issue. although i dont get 1X. but i do however get spiking signal.
from what ive learned, the bars arent ur reception but how good ur connection is to the....satelites? aslong as u have 3G showing ur phone/internet SHOULD be working. although i would rather like to see all full bars where i normally would

i'm in a pretty high 4g signal area, but i love ultimate droid. i too have loopy 3g using cm6 or ultimate droid, would gladly give up my 4g to use either of these roms, but the 3g performance is way slower than on a sense rom. it's not just the bars, 3g on aosp is almost unusable, on sense roms, it works nicely

I solved my issue. The root of the problem is the Airave and how it connects with AOSP ROM's.
When I flash a Sense based ROM I don't have an issue with 3G and signal. I'm in a perfect 3G area by the way.
As soon as I disconnected the Airave last night my 3G signal came back with a vengeance. It hasn't left and is steady. I plugged in the Airave again and I saw my signal disappear and never come back. I could make/receive calls but no data access. I have the latest version of the Airave. Could someone (DEV) of an AOSP ROM investigate this issue. I knew it wasn't my phone because it would only happen in AOSP ROM's.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

[Q] Wifi issues on CM7

Wondering if anyone else has this issue. My wifi is pretty weak on my EVO. i had strong connections before, and after, i rooted. But since i started running cm7 my wifi has become very weak. currently, my laptop has full bars, my friend has full bars on her intercept, but my EVO wifi shows only the dot in the wifi signal display is lit up.
Is this a known issue? and is there a fix? as i said, everything was fine when i was stock, unrooted and rooted.
running CM7.1.0, tiamat 4.0.8.
iv flashed several CM7 roms since rooting, all nightlies.
If this has been answered before i apologize. did a search for "wifi" and found no answers.

did u find a fix for this? i have the exact same problem

You may have low bars, as each device [phone] will register the connection strength, but as long as the data is there, nothing to complain about.

Try updating the radio. Somewhere on these forums there is a post with a combo zip that will update all of them all at the same time.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

yeah, I had very poor wifi signal and 3g signal with cm7. Liked the look and feel of cm, but with poor wifi and signal strenght, along with gps not working and wifi tether unable to work, I went back to Fresh.

[Q] Data stopped with 3G Signal ON

Hi, I've been following xda for a while but just recently registered. I searched the forums but didn't find any good answers/fixes.
In either case:
I've lost connectivity on my HTC EVO 4G. It's odd because the 3G signal indicator shows strong and the up/down arrows light up/dim. I'm running the latest CM7 supported nightly build and the Tiamat Kernel.
I was running a PRL for Verizon only roaming but heard rumors that 4G was in Phoenix. I did a backup of my ROM and restored a default android one then did the PRL update through the phone to get the most recent PRL from Sprint. Now in my CM7 rom and regular android ROM I can't connect to any data.
I tried re-wiping caches and restoring a second time to no avail.
Maybe I broke something in the ROM and just need to do a factory reset? Not a problem if that's necessary I have backups of all my stuff.
Any help for regaining service would be great! Thank you in advanced.

Well never mind I guess... just my luck as a Sysadmin once I ask about why it's broken it's fixed.
All data is back on my phone even after multiple reboots. Maybe PRL update didn't register on Sprints end? Don't know...
Thanks anyways everyone!

Happing to me too, it's a tower problem in my area. Nothing to do with your phone just Sprint's crappy network.

Internet not working.

For the past week and a half, I've had internet issues when I'm on 3g. It works fine on wifi. I've switched between ROMs, kernels, modems, etc. I'm currently on Goodness with the MA6 firmware modem AIO and the anthrax kernel. I've tried updating the profile & prl. I have between 2-4 bars of 3g and yet it still gives me the webpage not available sign. I tried clearing the cache/ fixing the permissions. But the internet simply won't work. I'm in Maryland, between Baltimore and Frederick. What could the problem be? Maybe the phone itself is defective or Sprint's network died in my area?

I'd see if they're doing work i that area. I know in areas of Baltimore 4G is there, I believe. You could try using build prop tweaks ect for signal if you wanted.

Zin0 said:
For the past week and a half, I've had internet issues when I'm on 3g. It works fine on wifi. I've switched between ROMs, kernels, modems, etc. I'm currently on Goodness with the MA6 firmware modem AIO and the anthrax kernel. I've tried updating the profile & prl. I have between 2-4 bars of 3g and yet it still gives me the webpage not available sign. I tried clearing the cache/ fixing the permissions. But the internet simply won't work. I'm in Maryland, between Baltimore and Frederick. What could the problem be? Maybe the phone itself is defective or Sprint's network died in my area?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815580&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154344
Misery loves company.
The 2nd post is a thread I started regarding the same problem. The first post is to a thread I thought could help me. I tried some things mentioned in there but none of them worked. Then someone posted in the thread who is having the same problem.
Here's what I've been running into and what I tried. I am on FreeGS3, Anthrax kernel, and recently updated to MA6 when I started having problems. I use a battery saver so my internet connection turns off when my screen is off. I started noticing a week or so ago that when I woke up my phone, the 3g icon would appear but only the up arrow flashed. The download arrow wasn't doing anything. I would toggle it off and on and eventually get it to work. I'm in the Raleigh-Durham area and we are just starting to get LTE. My 4G works whenever I go through 4G areas and my wifi works. I have restored a working backup, wiped my phone, flashed back to stock unrooted, called Sprint (they refreshed my signal and had me do an OTA activation), manually changed my PRL, upgraded to MA6, updated profile (when I could get it work).........and I think that about sums it up. The one thing I've noticed is my phone works flawlessly when the network mode is set to CDMA. At this point I'm clueless. I really don't think it's a phone issue because 3g works on CDMA. It's like when the phone is set to CDMA/LTE and it doesn't have an LTE signal, it doesn't know what to do. That up arrow flashes in such a rhythm that it's like the code is stuck in a loop.