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[Q] Cyanogenmod? Whats the big deal?

Serious question...
As the Epic is the first Android phone I've rooted I've not experienced the Cyanogenmod ROM?
What makes it so great to want it so badly in the forums?
I mean we have great ROMs like Midnight, SRF, Frankenstien, Bonsai? (sorry if I didnt mention the other great ROMs available just didn't want to sit here and name them all as there are alot!)
So can someone give opinions on why it is so awesome?

Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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theduce102 said:
Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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Its actually an aplha but ya its straight aosp and its so awesome lol.
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theduce102 said:
Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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I would give it a shot but I need it to be fully functional haha as I use the features that are broken

it is the hyped but up so much but it lives up to the hype.
If you were to tell someone four or five years ago. That a group of developers were going to take on a project to deliver a true open source experience and environment with nightly builds on a mobile phone they would have laughed at you. They would have laughed at you more when you tell him about this that this development team would be able to push Operating systems updates faster than manufactures of the phone itself.
The cyanogen mod is completely built from source so it does not include bloatware and no overlay
I for one love cyanogen mod not only does it add needed features, if theres an problem its discussed openly and the maintainer will actually let you know whats going on, if a fix is coming or its just totally borked. whereas with the telco or manufacturer they tell you that its not an issue and lie to you

ZiggSVO said:
I would give it a shot but I need it to be fully functional haha as I use the features that are broken
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Cyanogenmod, as stated above, is built from the ground up using source providing a true AOSP experience. This gives us the advantages of a fully custom and functional ROM without the disadvantages of having to wait for manufacturers to push out updates and having to wait for them ever so long. What makes it stand out from the other ROMS still is that since it is built from source, the ROM is being specifically built for our device, which will in return will take advantage of our phones unique hardware/capabilities to deliver an even richer ROM experience. Bottom line, once we get Cyanogenmod fully functioning on our Epics, that's when I will say th Epic has lived up to its true potential
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I was wondering the same thing...until I flashed CM7 on my Nook Color. Great having updates and a diverse community working on the same project... just works!
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akenis said:
Great having updates and a diverse community working on the same project... just works!
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Well, from what I gather...we don't have that

I uninstalled it because I did not see Market installed on it...

DroidBabe said:
I uninstalled it because I did not see Market installed on it...
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Probably because you didn't read the post right also. CyanogenMod does not include ANY Google apps. There is a flash-able zip that has all of them for you to install.
Google doesn't allow them to include it in their ROM, but (as said) you can flash them.

What is the holdup with Cyanogenmon, for the Epic?
What is different about the source available for our phone, then the source available for the EVO? That allowed it to be ported to the EVO so much quicker??

Cyanogen mod is the fastest and lightest rom there is. There is also a bunch of really awesome cosmetic features such as you can change any of the drop down toggles and add them. The themes that you can get for cyanogen are awesome I don't remember some of the other features but it also has amazing battery life so that's why it is the most sought after rom. The slow down is samsungs propriatary drivers and the manpower to do this quickly but once they either have this kernel booting or we get official gb it will come faster quoting nullghost one of the developers on the cm7 team for the epic.

nathan951 said:
What is the holdup with Cyanogenmon, for the Epic?
What is different about the source available for our phone, then the source available for the EVO? That allowed it to be ported to the EVO so much quicker??
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Um perhaps popularity and I am not certain for all of the hardware but some of it probably matched the nexus one
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BrianDigital said:
Um perhaps popularity and I am not certain for all of the hardware but some of it probably matched the nexus one
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from what i know, the cm7 team is trying to port over a Nexus kernel to the Epic but are having troubles at the moment doing so. once the kernel is up and running tho, everything should move along much smoother. Once GB source drops, that should also help the devs out immensely.

Here's to hoping for aosp soon!

Just left my miui'd evo 4g, and god, do I miss it already. I love this phone and I can't wait for rom development to explode! But for now we play the waiting game.
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I read that somone at miui.us is getting this phone and is porting miui... Cant wait
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That's great to hear Deano. I've heard in some places this phone has been hard to come by, so like you said...matter of time.

just a matter of time until the phone is readily available to all. there should be a donation thread to get a good dev a phone.

Anyone know if CM is working on an E4GT port?

dsmero said:
just a matter of time until the phone is readily available to all. there should be a donation thread to get a good dev a phone.
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I know Bubby was talking to someone in the Marketplace about getting one. They don't seem willing to make a deal with what he is offering though...which is totally understandable, I'm just stating this due to its seeming relevance.

Only problem with asop you will probably lose your samsung camera video codecs and other usefully programs/tools that Samsung have tied into the their framework. But atleast you can always revert back.

Once CM hits, MIUI will be able to start their port. MIUI is based off CyanogenMod.

cannnnnnnt wait for CM on this beast, even though stock is pretty darn impressive

Overstew said:
Once CM hits, MIUI will be able to start their port. MIUI is based off CyanogenMod.
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Not necessarily. The galaxy s 4g doesn't have cm7, but they have miui running on stock kernel. Also, making an aosp kernel shouldn't be as hard as it is in devices that ship with froyo and the kernel can be based off of the galaxy s2.

xboxfanj said:
Not necessarily. The galaxy s 4g doesn't have cm7, but they have miui running on stock kernel. Also, making an aosp kernel shouldn't be as hard as it is in devices that ship with froyo and the kernel can be based off of the galaxy s2.
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Yeah i also looked at the og gsII miui and a lot of things are from stock...
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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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/facepalm
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Do you like aosp?

I just got a sgs2.. and well the aosp game is kinda ridiculous on this device... props to the devs who's provided the options they were able to on this device but where are the rest of the roms at?
expect to see some more aosp comin from me here in the next month or so
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JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS I MEANT NO DISRESPECT AT ALL.. I EVEN CREDITED THE DEVS WGO BROUGHT SOME GREAT ROMS TO THIS DEVICE.. I just want people to know I'm here to bring more to the table.. I'm guessing there is a major hurdle to overcome to bring aosp to this device since I'm not seeing a lot of it.. but I'm up for the task.. and I'll simply let my work speak for itself..
If you have an issue bring it to my attention but please dont harass me for stating that I wanna contribute to this device.. I don't want a bad rep at all and I hope you all will enjoy the work I produce

Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.

clide whit said:
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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CM9 WITH FI03 modem gives me awesome speeds, stabilty, and battery.

clide whit said:
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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daniel4653 said:
3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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Everyones different though, just for me I tried them all (ran AOSP roms for the last 3-4 months), 3g seems a lot better on Twizz especially at work where it's a very low signal area. And 4g is no contest between the two.

So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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Ya I noticed that too mattix. Thank you and all devs for our aosp roms and cm and aokp.
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Vanilla Android is okay, but I far prefer Cyanogenmod and the variants based off it.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I deleted your post due to it being very rude and flaming another member. It was reported and it was removed. I will continue to do this if I see fit. On another note if you are producing or friends are producing roms then I'd suggest you let you works speak for themselves and not sit here and continue to act the way I have seen in this thread.
With that I will be locking this thread and ask that another like it not be made again

Thank you papa smurf.. no pun intended
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unlocked after talking to evol4g. everyone please reread the op

justlovejoy said:
I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Evo 4g, evo3d, epic 4g ect ect...
I respect you as a fellow dev. I'm actually using your ROM right now.. I'm a hardcore aosp guy and I was just expecting a device with a lot more options coming from the last two outdated phones I was on..
I was expecting to see some kind of positive feedback to see how interested people were in seeing more aosp not people trippin the EFF out.. I have a feeling that this is gonna be like the og evo threads all over again.. everyone's on such a defensive stand point!
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I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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Mattix724 said:
I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I didn't even see what you said but no harm no foul.. I didn't mean to insult anyone I even made sure to throw them some kudos I just had a feeling either aosp wasn't hot on this device or that it was hard AF to bring over
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Are you Building from A Source or In A Kitchen?
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Building from source
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evol4g said:
Building from source
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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I second that
Sbrissen has produced some of the memorable stuff during last year and a halk for various devices

I'm not sure what you mean by not enough AOSP roms. Every major one has been released for our device and theyre all pretty stable.
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[Q] Why does development on og evo 4g stop?

OK so I have had my evo for about two years now and when I first got it I rooted it. then a while later ics came out and so did ics roms for the evo. but every time a rom would be stable enough for daily use there would be no more updates for it. even though there would still be bugs with it and it continues to be like that. so i mean whats up with that. would it be that its just not worth it to work on it or the devs don't have time? I just want to know out of curiosity.

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OK so I have had my evo for about two years now and when I first got it I rooted it. then a while later ics came out and so did ics roms for the evo. but every time a rom would be stable enough for daily use there would be no more updates for it. even though there would still be bugs with it and it continues to be like that. so i mean whats up with that. would it be that its just not worth it to work on it or the devs don't have time? I just want to know out of curiosity.
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From what I've read, I don't think the evo hardware can handle many of the features that came with the phone. I'm assuming that is what you are talking about though (4g, ffc, etc).

The problem is, HTC no longer supports the OG EVO. The source for drivers for things like 4G and the FFC were never officially released, so this is why those items in ICS and JB ROM's don't work. If you want a fully-functional ROM, stick with a Gingerbread ROM. Everything works-period.
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I also see this a lot too. I wish I knew how to develop so I could make a driver that works for the front facing camera. That is the only thing holding me back from ics and i want it so bad. I think what happens is the dev gets a new phone and wants to work on the newer one, which there is nothing wrong with.
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Whiplashh said:
I also see this a lot too. I wish I knew how to develop so I could make a driver that works for the front facing camera
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Yeah I want to know how to develop also. I've been working on learning coding and what not. Like the basic stuff haha

The ffc needs a proprietary driver. The one that works on GB can't even be modified to work on ICS(easily) it needs to be about 90% rewritten to function. Writing one from scratch would almost be easier and its not easy and extremely time consuming without a team of devs experienced in coding camera drivers.
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Unless you can make a compelling argument with Htc and convince them to release source code lol (hypothetically) Another solution would be to buy an Evo 3d. They have fully functional 3.6 sense roms with everything working.

Jsparta26 said:
Unless you can make a compelling argument with Htc and convince them to release source code lol (hypothetically) Another solution would be to buy an Evo 3d. They have fully functional 3.6 sense roms with everything working.
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Yes 3.6 and 4.0 cuz they're both ics
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I doubt that would happen. They would rather you buy a new phone.
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I doubt that would happen. They would rather you buy a new phone.
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Exactly, that's why sense 4.0 roms on the Evo 3d dont having working 4g or 3d because htc abandoned the evo 3d and are focused on the evo 4g lte. You can get an evo 3d a lot cheaper than a 4g lte. It is a damn shame I know, believe me.

So as far as the og evo 4g goes the most up to date rom that can be used is gingerbread?
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Is there any current development on the FFC or 4g drivers? Where would one start to learn about why goes into creating these drivers? Has anyone taken the time to contact HTC reguatding the matter? Are there alternative drivers that could be used?
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@Bill_Dollar said:
Is there any current development on the FFC or 4g drivers? Where would one start to learn about why goes into creating these drivers? Has anyone taken the time to contact HTC reguatding the matter? Are there alternative drivers that could be used?
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No, I wouldn't know, yes and they will not be released and no.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948619
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Pbrussell said:
So as far as the og evo 4g goes the most up to date rom that can be used is gingerbread?
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Up-to-date, no. That would be Jelly Bean. Fully functional, on the other hand, yes, that would be Gingerbread.
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