[Q] Have recovery, but S-ON??? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.

Really strange... I recommend to go back to stock and then root / s-off your device with revolutionary.
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If you have the Superuser app then your rooted. You would probably need to install Busybox (it's on the market) and you should be able to use TitaniumBackup.
What the previous owner has done is just root the stock rom with unrevoked. You will end up with a custom recovery, SU and S-On. If it's really bugging you, just S-Off it.

jilee said:
Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.
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root different from s-off, u can have root and a recovery..if u not have s-off doesn't mean u don't have root
about titanium backup, this is a common problem..it require busybox..press the problem? button inside titanium backup and it should solve it
otherwise if u have doubts about what someone did at the phone, as said return to stock and do s-off/root

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[Q] How to tell if it is rooted?

Hi,
I'm pretty new to all this and searched the forums quite a bit, I've rooted my device with unrevoked 3.22 but how do I tell it is really rooted? Connected to ADB I can't do "adb shell cat /proc/cmdline" while the system ist booted. It only works during recovery mode.
I received no error messages while doing the following procedure:
1) unrevoked TMO UK Branded
2) Flashed to WWE Stock Froyo
3) unrevoked Stock
Thanks
You should be rooted.
Try an app from the market that requests root. Titanium or similar.
Or, see if yoy can get into the custom recovery. Vol down + power then choose recovery. You should have the clockwork panel or equivalent.
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I think I understood the point:
a) I have access to the recovery image clockwork mod (did a nandroid backup), but
b) I have a htc stock image whicht is not rooted, so Titanium Backup gives me an error message. I have to get another rooted rom.
But is it possible to do the S-OFF AlphaRev mod first, before aving a rooted rom?
Thanks
If you've made a nand backup then you should be rooted.
Do you have the superuser app in your apps drawer?
Im not too sure about your second comment.
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You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
3722 said:
You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
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using unrevoked.. you should've an app called super user or something similar now. it's a nina / sniper like icon..
I have this ninja/sniper but I also get the message that Titanium Backup needs root but the permission is NOT granted!
I assume, that unrevoked worked and I have the clockwork recovery, but my rom is stock and not rooted. I will get a new rooted rom tomorrow, now its a little late to sort such a stuff out ...

[Q] cant flash clockworkmod but phone is rooted please help

I really need help or direction to where I can get help please. I have been trying root my phone. I followed the guide on here for the Windows method and the Linux method when that was unsuccessful. The phone seems to have been rooted as I have the superuser permissions app (the ninja) and titanium backup worked once I went to the problems section and added busybox. Various other root only apps work. The app root check says I'm rooted but that I don't have busybox installed even though titanium backup says I have it.
My problem is unrevoked will not flash clockworkmod recovery. It says is firmware too new. I am on Telstra branded desire gsm on 2.1 exactly as I got it. Hboot is .75 software version 1.16 I did a factory reset and unrevoked said failed to flash recovery the first time then the next few times the usual is the firmware too new. I tried flashing the recovery using ROM manager but even that doesn’t work. I don’t know what else to do. Any advice????
I have not tried the manual method of installing clockworkmod the way it is explained on the cyanogenmod guide as I don't understand it.
I just don't what else to do. Please help me. Thank you.
hi maniacal26,
it's always better asking before than after having bricked the phone.
so now you are root, i think this is still stock rom. So it's normal that U are not busybox installed into the phone (titanium uses his own titanium... just stick fix the problem into the app titanium to get ONLT to allow titanium working fine)
You can install busybox by the market busybox
about root => get the app root checker it will tells you if U are well rooted
don't use rom manager as it a waste of time... i would advice you to use the recovery amon_RA v2.0.1 work great even to partition your sd card.
first of all you mus be sure that is a unbranded phone or branded phone
branded phone need a goldcard (look into the forum there s a lot of thread about it)
if unbranded u can use unrevoked 3.21 and select in the menu bar a presonnalized recovery which has been previuosly downloaded to your computer.
follow this TUT for branded phone as it seems you ve got one (telsra)
be caution and ask before if any doubt... ask question to this community.
there plainty members who knows a lot of stuff about android.
I have downloaded root check and it confirms I am rooted.
Busybox will not install using that app it says my nand is locked.
Titanium backup works and has installed its own busybox 1.16 even though the busybox app says there is no busybox installed and that it can't install one.
Where can I find unrevoked 3.21 I can only find 3.32 ?
I will make a goldcard now and try again.
Thank you.
maniacal26 said:
I have downloaded root check and it confirms I am rooted.
Busybox will not install using that app it says my nand is locked.
Titanium backup works and has installed its own busybox 1.16 even though the busybox app says there is no busybox installed and that it can't install one.
Where can I find unrevoked 3.21 I can only find 3.32 ?
I will make a goldcard now and try again.
Thank you.
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Is phone really new ??
Then may be your phone is PVT4 ...
Try using Amon RA Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839621
Also search unrevoked on xda, its very easy to use, and if your phone is pvt4, you'll also have to use AlphaRev for S-OFF ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
Hope it helps
I bought the phone brand new from Telstra in Australia and never did any of their updates it is stock.
I have tried the unrevoked method that is what has given me superuser permissions it just won't flash a recovery. I have been told to use 3.21 version but I can only find 3.32 so I can't go any further with that st this point. I made unrevoked flash the anon-ra recovery but it just keeps saying is fails to flash is it firmware too new. It can't be too knew as its what the phone shipped with when I bought it in June last year.
Thank you for it suggestions. I do not have pvt4 the bootloader does not say that.
Thank-you again. I will try what u suggested and report back.
maniacal26 said:
I bought the phone brand new from Telstra in Australia and never did any of their updates it is stock.
I have tried the unrevoked method that is what has given me superuser permissions it just won't flash a recovery. I have been told to use 3.21 version but I can only find 3.32 so I can't go any further with that st this point. I made unrevoked flash the anon-ra recovery but it just keeps saying is fails to flash is it firmware too new. It can't be too knew as its what the phone shipped with when I bought it in June last year.
Thank you for it suggestions. I do not have pvt4 the bootloader does not say that.
Thank-you again. I will try what u suggested and report back.
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Use the RUU to go back to stock and try again
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EddyOS said:
Use the RUU to go back to stock and try again
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i downloaded the telstra one from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 the one i chose is http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...4_R4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_123851.exe
when i attempted to run it said i had the my usb cable is not connected first then upon rerunning it, it said that my ruu image is the incorrect one. my phone is a telstra branded phone i bought on a contract from telstra itself. it has to be the right one.... ????
thank you for ur suggestion. do you have any other advice?
hi maniacal26,
about the new... quite annoying since my phone bought from jan2011 is pvt4
i use unrevoked 3.21 you can donwload it by clik the name from my dropbox
the following link is amon_ra v2.0.1
from now, i use unrevoked to root and instal a recovery (wich would be cmd 2.5.3 (you can select file and choose another recovery like amon ra)
as my desire is unbranded I've never used a goldcard. so I could say more that is saying in the xda's tutorial.
from my own, i used unrevoked to root and instal a recovery - made a nand backup follow up by the alpharev 1.8 s-off.
once done i used fasboot methode to flash the recovery
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery c:\adb\amon_rav2.0.1
i bcp up all sd card on computer followd by partionning sd card with fat32 + ext3
from there i choose a custom rom (from my own - leedroid - which is the more stable and complete) that's all
since every thing work fine
(i advice to run alpharev on usb bootloader)
hope this would help
I'll put a shot in the dark here.
Download the CM7 for the phone.
If you're running ROM manager, Flash to the newest clockwork recovery first.
Boot into loader,
Wipe all data and cache memories, including Devalc
Then flash
Thank-you to everyone who tried to help me. I gave up for while and tried again. I installed amon-ra I just could not get clockworkmod to install to the phone kept saying I had too new firmware. When I tried to restore back using the original firmware off the HTC website it also said my firmware was too new and that I had to use one of the newer roms they had to offer.
I used unrevoked but chose amon-ra as alternative recovery. Worked instantly. Everything has gone smoothly since then. I am running cm7 with recommended radio. I just need to s-off to get more internal memory available.
If anyone has problems like this just amon-ra, it even worked using win 7 64-bit whereas the other way it wouldn't even work using ubunto.
As a side note I have noticed a massive slow down (compared to the fresh cm7 install speed) on the phone once there is too many apps installed. It seems to be more about number rather than size. Regardless of how many, if any at all, apps have been moved to the SD card. I found there was a Tom that said it fixed this but I'm just gonna stick with cm7 anyway. Ill just run less apps and for an update.
Also been running phone on 1113Mhz now and its not a problem in my use with overheating in case anyone was a little afraid to test out.
Thanks to everyone again and I hope this post can assist someone else who is ready to break the phone.
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Phone doesn't appear to be rooted having S-OFF

Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
Rooting is different from s-off. Rooting becomes easier when s-off.
Alpharevx wont root the phone but makes s-off (which is awesome thing compared to rooting) .
Even after s-off u can't write to system partition unless u mount it rw. Otherwise there would have worst problems.
Search the forum to root the phone. Or just use superone click root method to root ur phone (hard to give a link from my phone).
And another thing is u don't need to root a custom rom, because they will be already rooted. A rom is rooted, not the device. Root = presence of su binary in system folders as told simply.
Yes the backup includes installed apps as well.
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Thank you for clearing things up for me.
This was very helpful.
Jackal331 said:
Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
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All is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

[Q] S off, no root access Droid Inredible2

Can anyone please help me????
I rooted my Droid Incredible2 with AlphaRev X and it said complete but I don't have root access. I tried to root again and Alpharev X told me that my phone was already rooted with S off. When I boot in bootloader it shows S off but no root access. I installed and uninstalled SU several times with no luck. Can someone please help me, I am starting to go crazy!!! I'm eager to get Rom manager back up and running like I had on my original Droid!!!
Maybe this will help you. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163105
jonesncolorado said:
Can anyone please help me????
I rooted my Droid Incredible2 with AlphaRev X and it said complete but I don't have root access. I tried to root again and Alpharev X told me that my phone was already rooted with S off. When I boot in bootloader it shows S off but no root access. I installed and uninstalled SU several times with no luck. Can someone please help me, I am starting to go crazy!!! I'm eager to get Rom manager back up and running like I had on my original Droid!!!
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Did you install the clockwork mod with the alpharev? If so, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745
abtxpress said:
Did you install the clockwork mod with the alpharev? If so, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745
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Nope, I did not install the clockmod with alpharev, I am starting to think that is related to my problem. Is their a way to do that manually other than just though the market?
I wish people would get the fact that obtaining S-OFF is not the same as rooting the phone.
That said, there's a guide in the dev section for flashing Clockwork Recovery.
Ok, So I understand that S off is not the same as rooting the phone, that's why I stated S off with no root for my thread. So installing clockmod won't help my problem because I still won't be rooted...right. Or am I missing something?
You need to first flash a recovery image onto the phone. Then install superuser. All of the steps needed are in the thread that I posted earlier.
Install CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160814
Install rooted kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133169
Then install Superuser and Busybox from the Market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer
All together here in one zip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745

Help! Droid Incredible "Half-Way" Rooted

Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!
FCO2011 said:
Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!
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If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.
cmlusco said:
If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.
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Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.
FCO2011 said:
Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.
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Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.
cmlusco said:
Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.
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Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.
FCO2011 said:
Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.
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Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.
cmlusco said:
Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.
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This is the information from hboot:
LOCKED (OOW)
INCREDIBLE XD SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.02.0000
MICROP-0417
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16AC
RADIO-2.15.10.07.07
DEC 12 2011,23:37:16
I'm guessing my bootloader is still locked then.
I've did reformat my sdcard when I was going to do the RUU but it still didn't work , but I will try that again anyway.
Cleared SU's data and did the binary update, no change. Doesn't recognize that busybox is installed, even though it's installed. Does BB have to be flashed? Because I DL'd busybox from the market.
Thanks for all the help so far!
EDIT:
I was able to RUU, using the most recent GB OTA RUU from here: http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22 Didn't look like anything changed. I also tried flashing the stock recovery through HBOOT but I got this message:
Main Version is older!
Update Fail!
Do you want to reboot device?
<VOL UP> Yes
<VOL DOWN> No
ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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elzimmer said:
ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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Would the HTCdev method work even though I'm running CWM recovery?
I'm running 2.3.4 stock nonrooted
Tried RUU'ing already, didn't work, at least it didn't change anything.
so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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elzimmer said:
so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?
FCO2011 said:
Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?
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You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.
cmlusco said:
You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.
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Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!
FCO2011 said:
Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!
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I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Thanks! Will do.
cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.
FCO2011 said:
Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.
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Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.
cmlusco said:
Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.
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oh, nevermind, busy box installed. It just took a really, really, really long time. Thanks though!

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