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[Q] To root or not to root

Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.

Unrevoked will root the phone along with installing custom recovery by a nand exploit.
But alpharevx neither roots the phone nor installs custom recovery. It turns off the nand security to make rooting (+ installing custom recovery) easier. So if you made s-off with alpharevx, then you need to root and install custom recovery on your own (which are very easy)..
And you dont need to downgrade with an RUU. Just go with this link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15226717&postcount=68 .
Also check the complete wildfire index thread from dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318 .
Edit: oh.. didn't get you clearly. Looks like you have custom recovery installed. Anyway, you can check the above link for rooting. And to install custom roms, you just need cwm recovery installed. Downgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.1 (using RUU) is not necessary in any case. And to root your stock rom just use superone click root method or gingerbreak.apk or you can also install Su binary (= rooting) from cwm recovery. And you dont need to root a custom Rom because custom roms will be already rooted. Another thing you need to remember is some roms need cwm version 2.x while others need cwm version 3.x or above. You need to shift between recoveries according to that need . On how to do that, check the index thread.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Flash Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod. There's absolutely no need to use any RUU / Unrevoked if you have got Clockworkmod Installed.
Download SU Binary here:
http://bit.ly/su2361ef
Flash, and check for root again. This will give you a rooted Stock ROM.
Alternatively, if you just want to change ROMs , you dont need to be "rooted". Just a Custom Recovery like Clockworkmod will do. So, if that's your ultimate goal, just flash the new ROM. Again, dont touch RUUs/Unrevoked.

Thank you, both for clearing that up. I must say the sticky post is way way over complicated and dead wrong on the process. Since it's a sticky it needs to get cleaned up by someone who knows about it.

It's not a sticky actually. (I assume you are referring to this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035)
I posted my views there but everyone seems happy with that, so whatever suits the individual I guess.
I have posted an overview of the process here (This is a sticky thread, so I kinda hope you are not referring to this one ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

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micnolmad said:
Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
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Hi, I have the same problem as micnolmad.
I'm running wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.01.1002
I used AlphaRev to get S-OFF, and change from HBOOT 1.01.0002.
I thought it was meant to convert HBOOT to 1.01.0001, but for some reason it's now 6.01.1002. Not sure if this is important? At least the phone's now S-OFF, which should enable rooting?
However, booting into HTC sense, rom manager syays I do not have root!
I have clockwork 3.0.0.6 but when I use it to install cyanogen 7.0.3, the installation says successful, and then freezes on start up.
Any ideas?

Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.

Scratch0805 said:
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
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Hi, I wiped Data, cache, Dalvik Cache, and have superuser and CWM v4.0.14 installed. On flashing cyanogen mod 7 ROM it installs successfully, but freezes on bootup?
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[Q] Have recovery, but S-ON???

Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.

Really strange... I recommend to go back to stock and then root / s-off your device with revolutionary.
SwiftKeyed from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

If you have the Superuser app then your rooted. You would probably need to install Busybox (it's on the market) and you should be able to use TitaniumBackup.
What the previous owner has done is just root the stock rom with unrevoked. You will end up with a custom recovery, SU and S-On. If it's really bugging you, just S-Off it.

jilee said:
Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.
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root different from s-off, u can have root and a recovery..if u not have s-off doesn't mean u don't have root
about titanium backup, this is a common problem..it require busybox..press the problem? button inside titanium backup and it should solve it
otherwise if u have doubts about what someone did at the phone, as said return to stock and do s-off/root

[Q] help rooting! puhhhllleeeeaaassseeeee

ROK here's the story. I rooted my DINC when I first got it two years ago, well my girlfriend now wants hers rooted.
I read the wiki and all that. But everytime I try it gives me an error message after the first phone boot after trying to gain root access... error can't root is your firmware too new?
Now my steps are.
Plug phone in.
Install phone drivers. (I think this may be where i went wrong)
run unrevoked3
It does its stuff and reboots phone into hboot continues to do it's thing.
Reboots phone again.
Starts asking fir root.
Then I get the error.
Can you tell what I'm doing wrong?
Do I have to install the hboot drivers on my windows 7 machine when the phone is in hboot?
Help!

Ok first,I don't believe unrevoked supports the newest firmware update, but there are other methods...
second, if unrevoked completes successfully, try manually flashing the recovery, if that completes successfully, then make a backup and flash a new rom..
If it boots up however, try downloading superuser and install it, if it works, should be good to go
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

networkmagician419 said:
Ok first,I don't believe unrevoked supports the newest firmware update, but there are other methods...
second, if unrevoked completes successfully, try manually flashing the recovery, if that completes successfully, then make a backup and flash a new rom..
If it boots up however, try downloading superuser and install it, if it works, should be good to go
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Its 2.2
And it wont get root access. So no SU.. I installed rom manager and it says no root access. And I can't get into recovery I believe.

BossJ said:
Its 2.2
And it wont get root access. So no SU.. I installed rom manager and it says no root access. And I can't get into recovery I believe.
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Are you s-off? If so flash cwm recovery thru hboot as a PB31IMG.zip. http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/PB31IMG.zip. Then if you can access recovery use it to flash the su binary, installing the su app does not install the binary. You can go to preferencec in the su app and try installing it from there, but it usually fails. You can get the lates flashable one here. http://dinc.does-it.net/SuperUser/SuperUser_3.0.7.zip

cmlusco said:
Are you s-off? If so flash cwm recovery thru hboot as a PB31IMG.zip. http://dinc.does-it.net/PB31IMG.zip. Then if you can access recovery use it to flash the su binary, installing the su app does not install the binary. You can go to preferencec in the su app and try installing it from there, but it usually fails. You can get the lates flashable one here. http://dinc.does-it.net/su.zip
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No. When I launch rom manager it says I need root. I'm not s-off.
My question is.. when I install the windows hboot drivers... does the phone need to be in hboot? I installed the hboot drivers when the phone was plugged in USB bur the phone was loaded into android 2.2

BossJ said:
No. When I launch rom manager it says I need root. I'm not s-off.
My question is.. when I install the windows hboot drivers... does the phone need to be in hboot? I installed the hboot drivers when the phone was plugged in USB bur the phone was loaded into android 2.2
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Root and s-off are two different things, and you dont need rom manager to access recovery. However if your s-on you dont have a custom recovery to flash things in anyways.
Yes when you install the drivers you need to be in hboot to get the correct drivers.
If you ran unrevoked and it compleeted successfully you should have root and s-off. I would make sure the drivers are right, and then run unrevoked again.

cmlusco said:
Root and s-off are two different things, and you dont need rom manager to access recovery. However if your s-on you dont have a custom recovery to flash things in anyways.
Yes when you install the drivers you need to be in hboot to get the correct drivers.
If you ran unrevoked and it compleeted successfully you should have root and s-off. I would make sure the drivers are right, and then run unrevoked again.
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OK. Unrevoked always failed. So. Must be the hboot drivers installing incorrectly.

cmlusco said:
Root and s-off are two different things, and you dont need rom manager to access recovery. However if your s-on you dont have a custom recovery to flash things in anyways.
Yes when you install the drivers you need to be in hboot to get the correct drivers.
If you ran unrevoked and it compleeted successfully you should have root and s-off. I would make sure the drivers are right, and then run unrevoked again.
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So when I install the hboot drivers while the phone is in hboot... do I run unrevoked when thephone is still in hboot? Or do I restart the phone?

BossJ said:
So when I install the hboot drivers while the phone is in hboot... do I run unrevoked when thephone is still in hboot? Or do I restart the phone?
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Yes restart the phome. Run unrevoked with the phone booted to the os.

cmlusco said:
Yes restart the phome. Run unrevoked with the phone booted to the os.
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Thanks so much for your help! Finally got it all taken care of!
It's been soooo long since I've rooted any phone! BUT I finally got it!
Wooo
Thanks again!

Is there any way to get "s-off" on a device running 2.3.4? I have looked all over and tried all of the methods I have found. Is it possible to unlock & root this device or is it stuck running the stock setup?
Andriod 2.3.4
Baseband 2.15.10.07.07

Huckle_Berry said:
Is there any way to get "s-off" on a device running 2.3.4? I have looked all over and tried all of the methods I have found. Is it possible to unlock & root this device or is it stuck running the stock setup?
Andriod 2.3.4
Baseband 2.15.10.07.07
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Only method I've seen for the Incredible is this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400

SlimSnoopOS said:
Only method I've seen for the Incredible is this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Awesome thanks for the help I will check that out!

[Q] Cannot get su/root access on HTC Desire bravo

I have just bought 2 HTC Desire phones 2nd hand for my wife and myself. One was already rooted, with su access and Nikez-Lente-1.0.1b2-bravo rom running very stably.The other was unlocked but branded and with a stock sense rom (not sure if if was gingerbread or ics).
So I immediately set about "rooting" the stock phone. I used Revolutionary, got s-off and installed sandvold Beta_0.18.2.1. I then installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed and expected to get root/su access on the phone. It was only when I tried using a2sd tool that I found I didn't have root/su access. Since then I've put the phone back to RUU and tried using unrevoked to root, but it fails everytime with a message "do you have a newer firmware?" or something like that.
I've put 4EXTRecoveryUpdater touch recovery on, installed Nikez-Lente-1.0.1b2-bravo again, installed su again, still no access. I've tried Superuser-3.2-RC3-arm-signed, still no joy. Nothing seems to be able to put this phone into su/root mode.
And the strange thing is, both phones are on hboot 6.93.1002. So why can I not root the other phone?
I've searched the net for 2 days now and can find nothing to help. All the guides for unrevoked make it look like the simplest thing in the world to do.
What do I need to do?

Check my sig, desire all things root, s-off using revolutionary. Theres a superuser zip file there, try flash that in recovery. Where did u get that superuser zip file?
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
Check my sig, desire all things root, s-off using revolutionary. Theres a superuser zip file there, try flash that in recovery. Where did u get that superuser zip file?
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I'm not sure. My head is fried looking at website after website and thread after thread about this. I think it might've been here: androidsu.com/superuser/

mickrick said:
I'm not sure. My head is fried looking at website after website and thread after thread about this. I think it might've been here: androidsu.com/superuser/
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Yh i think with that site u have to download and flash the su binary aswell as the superuser.zip
download & flash this in recovery and u should be rooted
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip
This is the SU file from the guide in my sig
Sent from my HTC Desire

Thanks for that
Tried that one, still getting "permission denied" in terminal.
Just a thought - should I downgrade the bootloader to an unrevoked compliant one?

mickrick said:
Thanks for that
Tried that one, still getting "permission denied" in terminal.
Just a thought - should I downgrade the bootloader to an unrevoked compliant one?
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Boot recovery, nandroid backup and try flashing a rom that has superuser already installed. Strange that its not working
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
Boot recovery, nandroid backup and try flashing a rom that has superuser already installed. Strange that its not working
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Cheers. Can you suggest a rom that does?

Help! Droid Incredible "Half-Way" Rooted

Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!

FCO2011 said:
Hey all,
So I upgraded to a Droid DNA a couple of months ago, so I decided to root my OG Droid Incredible (SLCD).
I followed the guide here: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351) to the letter. When I got to the step where I ran unrevoked, it flashed ClockWorkMod recovery, but didn't finish the process. So what happened is now I have ClockWorkMod recovery, and a Stock ROM that doesn't have Root access. (I downloaded a couple of different root checkers from the market and I got "no root access" results".
I tried flashing the stock recovery using the PB31IMG.zip method, but in HBOOT my phone won't recognize the file on my Micro SDcard, even though it's on the root, and properly named.
Can anyone help me get my phone completely rooted, or at least back to stock-stock so I can use a different method?
P.S I did check all MD5 sums, and the phone still works perfectly....it's just in a weird "limbo" state of rooted or not.
Thanks!
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If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.

cmlusco said:
If you have cwm flashed then just flash superuser http://dinc.does-it.net/Superuser/SuperUser_3.1.1.zip, thru cwm. Then you will be rooted. Also remember to install busybox from the market.
Alternativley you could just flash a rom of your choosing, as roms come pre rooted and with busybox.
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Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.

FCO2011 said:
Alrighty,
So I tried this just now, and it still didn't work. It flashed SU successfully, but two different root checkers I DL'd told me I still don't have root access. I'm also s-on still, I forgot to mention. Busybox was also telling me it didn't have proper access.
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Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.

cmlusco said:
Strange, is the superuser app in the app drawer? Your bootloader is unlocked right? You may need to do an ruu and start over.
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Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.

FCO2011 said:
Yeah Superuser is in my app drawer. I'm not sure about the bootloader. How can I check? I've tried doing an RUU, didn't work either of the times I tried to.
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Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.

cmlusco said:
Boot to hboot (vol down + power), it should say at the top. Give me all the info there. You may need to reformat your sdcard fat32 to get the ruu to work. Try going to menu settings applications manage applications all tab find superuser and clear its data. Then open superuser go to preferences and select binary update.
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This is the information from hboot:
LOCKED (OOW)
INCREDIBLE XD SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.02.0000
MICROP-0417
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16AC
RADIO-2.15.10.07.07
DEC 12 2011,23:37:16
I'm guessing my bootloader is still locked then.
I've did reformat my sdcard when I was going to do the RUU but it still didn't work , but I will try that again anyway.
Cleared SU's data and did the binary update, no change. Doesn't recognize that busybox is installed, even though it's installed. Does BB have to be flashed? Because I DL'd busybox from the market.
Thanks for all the help so far!
EDIT:
I was able to RUU, using the most recent GB OTA RUU from here: http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22 Didn't look like anything changed. I also tried flashing the stock recovery through HBOOT but I got this message:
Main Version is older!
Update Fail!
Do you want to reboot device?
<VOL UP> Yes
<VOL DOWN> No

ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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elzimmer said:
ok first of yu should unlock ur bootloader via htcdev unlock method...then downgrade bak to froyo gingerbread for what i remember didn't allow us to have soff via unrevoked. what android version are yu running? try to ruu via desktop if nothing works :/
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Would the HTCdev method work even though I'm running CWM recovery?
I'm running 2.3.4 stock nonrooted
Tried RUU'ing already, didn't work, at least it didn't change anything.

so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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elzimmer said:
so u can downgrade to froyo u have to follow a different guide to downgrade soff root upgrade to gingerbread (if thats ur preferred rom) or because if ur son u cant flash the boot.img in any rom and will be needed if u wanna flash something like cm or any thing else
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Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?

FCO2011 said:
Alright, so you're saying I should downgrade to froyo first, then achieve s-off and root?
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You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.

cmlusco said:
You need to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash cwm , flash superuser thru cwm, fastboot flash froyo misc img thru hboot, flash froyo ruu thru hboot, reunlock bootloader, fastbootflash cwm, flash superuser or a rom of your choosing. Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258.
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Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!

FCO2011 said:
Haha, I actually just found your guide too, right before I checked this thread. Alrighty, going to go through this guide.
Quick question, since I already have CWM recovery, do I need to reflash it? it is the same version (5.0.2.0). I also flashed the super user zip you posted earlier. should I reflash the one in the guide?
Thanks again so much for your help!
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I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.

cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Thanks! Will do.

cmlusco said:
I would reflash it as it may not be complete do to not being unlocked. It only takes a few secs anyways.
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Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.

FCO2011 said:
Alright,
So I unlocked successfully, flashed su.zip, reflashed CWM recovery, and got to the busy box step.
I'm using jrummy's installer from the market, and it's telling me I have root access. But when I try to install it, it doesn't work. It just sits there "installing busybox". I also used a rootchecker app and that one says I still don't have root access, even though the busybox installer says I do. Superuser also tells me I don't have root access when I go to update the binaries.
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Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.

cmlusco said:
Try doing a full wipe and then flashing a rom.
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oh, nevermind, busy box installed. It just took a really, really, really long time. Thanks though!