Hi,
I'm pretty new to all this and searched the forums quite a bit, I've rooted my device with unrevoked 3.22 but how do I tell it is really rooted? Connected to ADB I can't do "adb shell cat /proc/cmdline" while the system ist booted. It only works during recovery mode.
I received no error messages while doing the following procedure:
1) unrevoked TMO UK Branded
2) Flashed to WWE Stock Froyo
3) unrevoked Stock
Thanks
You should be rooted.
Try an app from the market that requests root. Titanium or similar.
Or, see if yoy can get into the custom recovery. Vol down + power then choose recovery. You should have the clockwork panel or equivalent.
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I think I understood the point:
a) I have access to the recovery image clockwork mod (did a nandroid backup), but
b) I have a htc stock image whicht is not rooted, so Titanium Backup gives me an error message. I have to get another rooted rom.
But is it possible to do the S-OFF AlphaRev mod first, before aving a rooted rom?
Thanks
If you've made a nand backup then you should be rooted.
Do you have the superuser app in your apps drawer?
Im not too sure about your second comment.
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You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
3722 said:
You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
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using unrevoked.. you should've an app called super user or something similar now. it's a nina / sniper like icon..
I have this ninja/sniper but I also get the message that Titanium Backup needs root but the permission is NOT granted!
I assume, that unrevoked worked and I have the clockwork recovery, but my rom is stock and not rooted. I will get a new rooted rom tomorrow, now its a little late to sort such a stuff out ...
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Hi people, is there a way to remove the stock app from HTC Corporation ???? i mean there are alot of useless programs i don't use and want them to remove.....but when i go to settings -> applications -> all applications tab i cant remove them.....why not
You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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AndroHero said:
You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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Using adb ??? do i need root to do so ? also i have s-on and i am affraid to brick my new phone.
You have to root to remove preinstalled apps.
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Ok thanks for the info....but what is adb ?
Edit: Found it i think http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?
MichelN said:
Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?
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You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
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Ik Desire said:
You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
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Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.
MichelN said:
Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.
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No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps
h3llb3nd4 said:
No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps
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Thanks for the info
Htc desire problem
Hello,
I am new and I in a problem with my HTC DESIRE.
I have a HTC DESIRE by the English operator O2 with HBOOT 0.93 and RADIO 5.09.05.30_2 I tried to install version FORYO 2.2 by WIFI, the file OTA2.2 was be download and I launched the installation. After some restart DESIRE jammed on the first screen (blue screen with the logo O2) since the tél does not ignite any more.
What is the solution for problem?????? What is that I have to install a new ROM??? What ROM and How????
Thank you very much for your help.
Please start your own thread for others to respond. Thanks.
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Rooted Evo 2.2 via UnrEVOked 3.21 stock everything. I can't get this to install. I emailed the dev and he told me that I need to use UnrEVOked Forever because 3.21 doesn't have NAND unlocked. According to the UnrEVOked website that is not true. 3.21 does have Nand unlocked.
Do any of you guys have any idea on how I can get this stupid app installed?
Titanium installed a version of it but I think that only Titanium can access it.
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Rooted Evo 2.2 via UnrEVOked 3.21 stock everything. I can't get this to install. I emailed the dev and he told me that I need to use UnrEVOked Forever because 3.21 doesn't have NAND unlocked. According to the UnrEVOked website that is not true. 3.21 does have Nand unlocked.
Do any of you guys have any idea on how I can get this stupid app installed?
Titanium installed a version of it but I think that only Titanium can access it.
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If Titanium installed busybox try going to a sheel then type in busybox. If you get a display with a command listing then type in busybox --install /system that should install busybox so you can use the full command set.
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If Titanium installed busybox try going to a sheel then type in busybox. If you get a display with a command listing then type in busybox --install /system that should install busybox so you can use the full command set.
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What is a sheel? Is this some kind of adb thing? Can you explain it to me step by step like I have down syndrome please.
i have an older version of busybox (1.16.2) and while trying to install 1.17.1 the installer is telling me that installation failed because 1) the device is not nand unlocked or 2) app was unable to remount.
my phone has been nand-unlocked for months. i've even installed this and other busybox versions prior to trying now on this rom. can flashing a new rom (MetroDroid) change my nand-unlock status? (i dont think so)...
Max I got the same exact message from BusyBox. When I emailed the dev he told me that 3.21 does not have Nand unlocked, which does not appear to be true. I have stock everything...IDK wtf is going on with this app. It really blows!
I have titanium backup installed with the busybox version from tib. Downloaded the bbox installer from the market and installed ver. 1.17 just fine.
Rooted with unrevoked forever for s-off and regaw's root method and currently running rooted 3.29.
Thought i would get an error like you guys but install was without a hitch.
You can find out if you are NAND unlocked by turning your phone off and then turning it back on while holding the volume down button. If you see S=OFF then you are unlocked. Also make sure that nothing is using busy box or root and try killing any unnecessary apps with a task killer. You can't change it if something is using it.
Haus: if S is on what Rico have to do? can I change it from that boot screen? Do I have re root?
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Haus: if S is on what Rico have to do? can I change it from that boot screen? Do I have re root?
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You can use unrevoked forever or install the engineering bootloader, if you plan on flashing a lot of ROMs the eng bootloader is probably your best bet. That will give you the fastboot tools and allow you to use Cyanogenmod
****. You were right man. S=On. I thought Unrevoked 3.21 unlocked nand. Did I screw up somewhere? What is this engineer bootloader u mention. I never heard of it. How do I get it? Is it hard to use?
You'll need to flash a custom Recovery and use that to flash either the eng bootloader or unrevoked forever. I believe ROM manager can install the recovery for you or the Amon RA thread in my sig has the instructions to do it manually. A quick search should turn up the eng bootloader, sorry I don't have the link handy though
Edit: Found it Evo eng hBoot .76 - Recovery Flashable
I really need help or direction to where I can get help please. I have been trying root my phone. I followed the guide on here for the Windows method and the Linux method when that was unsuccessful. The phone seems to have been rooted as I have the superuser permissions app (the ninja) and titanium backup worked once I went to the problems section and added busybox. Various other root only apps work. The app root check says I'm rooted but that I don't have busybox installed even though titanium backup says I have it.
My problem is unrevoked will not flash clockworkmod recovery. It says is firmware too new. I am on Telstra branded desire gsm on 2.1 exactly as I got it. Hboot is .75 software version 1.16 I did a factory reset and unrevoked said failed to flash recovery the first time then the next few times the usual is the firmware too new. I tried flashing the recovery using ROM manager but even that doesn’t work. I don’t know what else to do. Any advice????
I have not tried the manual method of installing clockworkmod the way it is explained on the cyanogenmod guide as I don't understand it.
I just don't what else to do. Please help me. Thank you.
hi maniacal26,
it's always better asking before than after having bricked the phone.
so now you are root, i think this is still stock rom. So it's normal that U are not busybox installed into the phone (titanium uses his own titanium... just stick fix the problem into the app titanium to get ONLT to allow titanium working fine)
You can install busybox by the market busybox
about root => get the app root checker it will tells you if U are well rooted
don't use rom manager as it a waste of time... i would advice you to use the recovery amon_RA v2.0.1 work great even to partition your sd card.
first of all you mus be sure that is a unbranded phone or branded phone
branded phone need a goldcard (look into the forum there s a lot of thread about it)
if unbranded u can use unrevoked 3.21 and select in the menu bar a presonnalized recovery which has been previuosly downloaded to your computer.
follow this TUT for branded phone as it seems you ve got one (telsra)
be caution and ask before if any doubt... ask question to this community.
there plainty members who knows a lot of stuff about android.
I have downloaded root check and it confirms I am rooted.
Busybox will not install using that app it says my nand is locked.
Titanium backup works and has installed its own busybox 1.16 even though the busybox app says there is no busybox installed and that it can't install one.
Where can I find unrevoked 3.21 I can only find 3.32 ?
I will make a goldcard now and try again.
Thank you.
maniacal26 said:
I have downloaded root check and it confirms I am rooted.
Busybox will not install using that app it says my nand is locked.
Titanium backup works and has installed its own busybox 1.16 even though the busybox app says there is no busybox installed and that it can't install one.
Where can I find unrevoked 3.21 I can only find 3.32 ?
I will make a goldcard now and try again.
Thank you.
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Is phone really new ??
Then may be your phone is PVT4 ...
Try using Amon RA Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839621
Also search unrevoked on xda, its very easy to use, and if your phone is pvt4, you'll also have to use AlphaRev for S-OFF ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
Hope it helps
I bought the phone brand new from Telstra in Australia and never did any of their updates it is stock.
I have tried the unrevoked method that is what has given me superuser permissions it just won't flash a recovery. I have been told to use 3.21 version but I can only find 3.32 so I can't go any further with that st this point. I made unrevoked flash the anon-ra recovery but it just keeps saying is fails to flash is it firmware too new. It can't be too knew as its what the phone shipped with when I bought it in June last year.
Thank you for it suggestions. I do not have pvt4 the bootloader does not say that.
Thank-you again. I will try what u suggested and report back.
maniacal26 said:
I bought the phone brand new from Telstra in Australia and never did any of their updates it is stock.
I have tried the unrevoked method that is what has given me superuser permissions it just won't flash a recovery. I have been told to use 3.21 version but I can only find 3.32 so I can't go any further with that st this point. I made unrevoked flash the anon-ra recovery but it just keeps saying is fails to flash is it firmware too new. It can't be too knew as its what the phone shipped with when I bought it in June last year.
Thank you for it suggestions. I do not have pvt4 the bootloader does not say that.
Thank-you again. I will try what u suggested and report back.
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Use the RUU to go back to stock and try again
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Use the RUU to go back to stock and try again
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i downloaded the telstra one from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 the one i chose is http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...4_R4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_123851.exe
when i attempted to run it said i had the my usb cable is not connected first then upon rerunning it, it said that my ruu image is the incorrect one. my phone is a telstra branded phone i bought on a contract from telstra itself. it has to be the right one.... ????
thank you for ur suggestion. do you have any other advice?
hi maniacal26,
about the new... quite annoying since my phone bought from jan2011 is pvt4
i use unrevoked 3.21 you can donwload it by clik the name from my dropbox
the following link is amon_ra v2.0.1
from now, i use unrevoked to root and instal a recovery (wich would be cmd 2.5.3 (you can select file and choose another recovery like amon ra)
as my desire is unbranded I've never used a goldcard. so I could say more that is saying in the xda's tutorial.
from my own, i used unrevoked to root and instal a recovery - made a nand backup follow up by the alpharev 1.8 s-off.
once done i used fasboot methode to flash the recovery
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery c:\adb\amon_rav2.0.1
i bcp up all sd card on computer followd by partionning sd card with fat32 + ext3
from there i choose a custom rom (from my own - leedroid - which is the more stable and complete) that's all
since every thing work fine
(i advice to run alpharev on usb bootloader)
hope this would help
I'll put a shot in the dark here.
Download the CM7 for the phone.
If you're running ROM manager, Flash to the newest clockwork recovery first.
Boot into loader,
Wipe all data and cache memories, including Devalc
Then flash
Thank-you to everyone who tried to help me. I gave up for while and tried again. I installed amon-ra I just could not get clockworkmod to install to the phone kept saying I had too new firmware. When I tried to restore back using the original firmware off the HTC website it also said my firmware was too new and that I had to use one of the newer roms they had to offer.
I used unrevoked but chose amon-ra as alternative recovery. Worked instantly. Everything has gone smoothly since then. I am running cm7 with recommended radio. I just need to s-off to get more internal memory available.
If anyone has problems like this just amon-ra, it even worked using win 7 64-bit whereas the other way it wouldn't even work using ubunto.
As a side note I have noticed a massive slow down (compared to the fresh cm7 install speed) on the phone once there is too many apps installed. It seems to be more about number rather than size. Regardless of how many, if any at all, apps have been moved to the SD card. I found there was a Tom that said it fixed this but I'm just gonna stick with cm7 anyway. Ill just run less apps and for an update.
Also been running phone on 1113Mhz now and its not a problem in my use with overheating in case anyone was a little afraid to test out.
Thanks to everyone again and I hope this post can assist someone else who is ready to break the phone.
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Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
Rooting is different from s-off. Rooting becomes easier when s-off.
Alpharevx wont root the phone but makes s-off (which is awesome thing compared to rooting) .
Even after s-off u can't write to system partition unless u mount it rw. Otherwise there would have worst problems.
Search the forum to root the phone. Or just use superone click root method to root ur phone (hard to give a link from my phone).
And another thing is u don't need to root a custom rom, because they will be already rooted. A rom is rooted, not the device. Root = presence of su binary in system folders as told simply.
Yes the backup includes installed apps as well.
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Thank you for clearing things up for me.
This was very helpful.
Jackal331 said:
Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
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All is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.
Really strange... I recommend to go back to stock and then root / s-off your device with revolutionary.
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If you have the Superuser app then your rooted. You would probably need to install Busybox (it's on the market) and you should be able to use TitaniumBackup.
What the previous owner has done is just root the stock rom with unrevoked. You will end up with a custom recovery, SU and S-On. If it's really bugging you, just S-Off it.
jilee said:
Hi everyone
Just bought a 2nd Desire. The previous owner said that the phone is stock, and when i tested it by entering HBOOT, i saw S-ON, so i accepted and brought it home.
But i've just wanted to test further, so i installed Titanium Backup, allowed its SU request, but BOOM, it said we have no root access. I do see the Superuser permission application in the Apps Drawer. I can enter CWM recovery too.
So i'm stuck in a weird situation with a recovery and no root (S-ON)?
What can i do now? Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry if this was asked somewhere, but i did search and had zero result.
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root different from s-off, u can have root and a recovery..if u not have s-off doesn't mean u don't have root
about titanium backup, this is a common problem..it require busybox..press the problem? button inside titanium backup and it should solve it
otherwise if u have doubts about what someone did at the phone, as said return to stock and do s-off/root