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today I went to a T-Mobile store in Bellueve to see if it is true that you will never find a Windows Phone 7 on display. As I was looking around for Windows Phone 7, I did not see any Windows Phone 7. All I see were shevels and display of android phones. I made an attempt to ask one of the salesclerk, and told me because Windows phones aren't selling, they didn't want to waste the shelf display. I am really upset at T-Mobile, and I think Microsoft should investigate into this practice. No wonder their phones are not selling.
When I went to try the HD7 back at the end of November they had two phones on display, they even had and HD2 on display.
makoute said:
When I went to try the HD7 back at the end of November they had two phones on display, they even had and HD2 on display.
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I bought mine via Amazon wireless, with T-Mobile contract. I am very disappointed that I am thinking about canceling my contract with them, but I must find ways to cancel without getting charge.
You guys shouldn't complain; I'm on ATT... All thre really do is push their ****y iPhone as much as possible ...
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Weird, the T-Mobile store in my City had the HD7 plastered everywhere.
I have noticed a difference with att stores and att authorized stores which look like an att store but they are privately owned. I assume it is the same with T-mobile. The authorized stores will push there highest end phones that are not neccesarily the newest or best phone out considering they want to rid their inventory; so they will try to sell you anything high end that most of the time they have little to no knowledge about haha.
timur525 said:
You guys shouldn't complain; I'm on ATT... All thre really do is push their ****y iPhone as much as possible ...
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Gonna have to call shenanigans. Almost every decent AT&T store I've been in has a display unit for pretty much every phone they carry barring maybe a few feature phones and dumbphones. But as far as smartphones go, they almost always have at least 1 display unit for every phone.
I used to have AT&T, so I've been in a LOT of AT&T stores
T-Mobile stores are just full of lazy employees. There's a 50% chance the phone you want to try will either not be on display, or the reps unplugged it and let the battery run out.
I don't know. Around me I have four T-Mobile stores. Each one has a Vibrant, MT4G, HD2 and HD7 running side-by-side. Only one store had the HD7 not working because it was played with so much that it was always in need of a charge.
The problem at these stores is that they were selling the HD7s, but most of them were returned within days of the purchase. According to the sales people the reasons varied. I think most of them were returned because they weren't what people were expecting. However, the sales people were actively pushing it over the Android phones.
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today I went to a T-Mobile store in Bellueve to see if it is true that you will never find a Windows Phone 7 on display. As I was looking around for Windows Phone 7, I did not see any Windows Phone 7. All I see were shevels and display of android phones. I made an attempt to ask one of the salesclerk, and told me because Windows phones aren't selling, they didn't want to waste the shelf display. I am really upset at T-Mobile, and I think Microsoft should investigate into this practice. No wonder their phones are not selling.
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Uh, the Bellevue (Factoria) has an HD7 on display. It's on the left hand side of the store when you walk in.
The RTC store has one on the left hand side of the store on the upper display when you walk in the door from the main street.
Are you referring to the Bell Square store? While I can't vouch for it, I'm quite confident that they have one on display. Since I'll be there tomorrow, I'm more than happy to take a photo of it.
Cheers!
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today I went to a T-Mobile store in Bellueve
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which exact t-mobile bellevue store did you go to?
exact location is needed.
The T-mobile store in my area isn't even selling WP7 devices, but all the Tmo Stores in the City over have the glass covered with ads. I think it has something to do with whethers its an authorized reseller or an official store. Because T-mobile will market every device. Unlike official stores, authorized resellers will only sell what they see fit. Couple years back the same store in my area would sell the G1 and stop selling sidekicks.
really... we need two of these threads?
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These type if things happen to all the newcomer OSes. It happened to WebOS on Verizon, Android on AT&T somewhat, etc. While reps should be objective and respond to the customers needs, anytime you have something that isn't understood and you have humans with preferences this will always be the outcome. Just give time for Windows Phone 7 to mature and I'm sure the attitude will Change.
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Pretty sure the OP is just trolling. They haven't come out and said which store they sven visited and I've been to one of the two in Bellevue.
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Wife really wants iphone. I need some inputs. I want a WP7 phone, currently have a TP2 on sprint.
Debating if i should wait and see if sprint comes out with an iphone in the summer, or if i should just make the switch to AT&T, but i'm concerned about the service. I'm in LI, NY.
Need to know about the benefits of staying on CDMA or if GSM would not make much of a difference. I do like the fact that on GSM i'll be able to use any phone i want since they use SIM cards. I like the Nokia/WP7 commitment so i figured at AT&T i'll have a better selection of phones.
If i do make the switch to AT&T. What phone? the Samsung focus or the HTC surround?
ATT Focus... The Surround was just terrible. I wouldn't reccomend it to my worst enemy. That speaker gimmick was just embarassing.
Love my Focus, my sis loves hers, and my wife will be getting one soon. I'm sure the Samsung update problem will be resolved soon enough.
HTC makes a great product, and I'd love to have the HD7 or whatever it's called, but I have no need for a speaker, so AT&T had no HTCs for me. However, ALL smartphones should come with kickstands at this point.
Keep workin' on your wife so maybe she'll get a WP7 instead of that iPhone!
My wife is def set on the iphone. Which is fine with me.
I know the HTC's are known for being able to put roms on them. Would the same be possible for the Samsung focus? i know roms are not possible at this time with WP7.
Am i wrong with the idea of going to AT&T? i've heard that their 4g network doesn't really work at all.
I like the HD7 too, but doesn't have a microsd slot and the screen is much nicer on the focus.
Sprint's Arrive is basically just a TP2 with better internal hardware, so if you like the TP2, you might like just sticking with Sprint and going with the Arrive. The keyboard is very similar, better by many accounts, and the screen size is comparable to the TP2.
If your wife wants an iPhone, then I'd switch to AT&T and get the Samsung Focus for yourself. I don't think you can expect iPhone on Sprint any time soon. By most accounts, the Focus is the best WP7... though I own an HD7 on T-Mobile and I absolutely love it.
Samsung Focus - ATT
I've had a Samsung Focus since the release date in November and it really is about the nicest phone I've owned. If you choose to add an SD Card to it that is a bit of a gamble right now but in all other respects it is a great phone and for the area of the country I mostly haunt I've had no reception issues.
My plan for my Wife is to get her an HTC Trophy on Verizon should Verizon every get around to actually releasing the d&^% thing (if her contract expires before then Verizon just might lose a mutli-family account but I suspect that the Trophy will be out sooner rather than later).
I really have to interject here and warn against Samsung.
They actively dislike their existing userbase, and their hardware is known to fail. I would go HTC or LG.
Yeah i've heard that there have been many issues with the samsung and the microSD. I have a feeling that sprint might get the iphone this summer, since it is in June that Iphone always releases their new phone.
I really like the TP2, but i really want a bigger screen and was disappointment with the fact that they left it the same and no microSD slot. I was at the store yesterday and the HTC surround is definitely built better than the samsung, which felt extremely light, but the screen is tremendous and the screen is bigger (i have fairly large fingertips).
HD7 would be my ideal phone, but i think the screen is too dull compared to the samsung screen, and it doesn't have a microSD, besides tmobile isn't getting the iphone sooner than Sprint.
The reason why i think i'll be better with AT&T is because if sprint does get a phone i really like i can always get the world version of it and just slip my sim card in it.
omg is anyone as frustrated and pent up as I am that the titan is not quite here yet?!! I am in a horrible situation with t-mobile. I have horrific coverage at work and am there 60+ hours a week. I can't return text messages, web browse, send recieve emails, my calls drop, i'm literally carrying a huge paperweight when I get to the office.
I have to leave the building and go outside to use my phone, compound that with the fact that I have had my hd7 for an entire year, im dying to get a new phone. I have grown tired of the hardware and can't wait for the bigger screen, front facing cam and to be on a network that actually works!!
i should have never left at&t, i had unlimited data the A list and now those features are gone! tmobile lured me with the big screened hd7 only to find out months later its release for at&t big fail...
i've even gone to the nearby at&t store and they're clueless imbeciles! and also i am currently in a month long dispute trying to break my contract with t-mobile because of my horrible service at work, i blow up their customer relations fax # every business day, faxing them my 4 page letter of discontent, still pending...
either way , im bouncing from tmobile as soon as this phone hits, I just wallow day after day in frustration over my current carrier and old hardware
sigh!!!!!
They have just announced it
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-samsung-focus-s-and-samsung-focus-flash.aspx
Wait for it... if you want Titan so bad, i will sell mine to you. X310E from UK.
I gotta say, my titan has been re-boxed in favor of the dell venue pro. It's a valiant effort but it's still HTC build quality and until Nokia has some U.S. Devices my dvp is the best wp7 device out after the fixes.
You can buy an unlocked Titan now on Amazon for $699 from 3rd party seller Expansys. Or buy straight from Expansys:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-titan-windows-phone-7-5-smartphone-unlocked-black-221944/
If you're interested in a full price, unlocked verion of the Titan. I'm waiting for mine to arrive to make sure that the AT&T 3G bands work. The specs show the same bands, so I assume it will work with AT&T.
I bought the Telstra touch HD and then the telstra hd2 back in the day but times are a hard so im waiting for a contract special with at&t sad face
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Strike_Eagle said:
They have just announced it
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-samsung-focus-s-and-samsung-focus-flash.aspx
Wait for it... if you want Titan so bad, i will sell mine to you. X310E from UK.
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how much would you sell it for? pm me
and it is has the at&t band right?
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and it is has the at&t band right?
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i am about ready to finish reviewing the Titan.
And As soon as any 3G bar on AT&T, i will give you a PM.
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i am about ready to finish reviewing the Titan.
And As soon as any 3G bar on AT&T, i will give you a PM.
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I didn't understand that?
are you saying you do have 3g for att?
I think i read somewhere the uk titan has 850 mhz bang for att, if so and if you are in the united states, I think the display would be an "H" high speed data access hence 3g
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I didn't understand that?
are you saying you do have 3g for att?
I think i read somewhere the uk titan has 850 mhz bang for att, if so and if you are in the united states, I think the display would be an "H" high speed data access hence 3g
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Oh no, i don't have AT&T Simcard to test it out yet.
Has there been any rumors/whispers/overheard a conversation in the bathroom news of any future WP7 phones that may be coming to sprint?
Sprint will launch a new Windows Phone about a month after Apollo RTM. You are looking at September period.
The device will feature Snapdragon MSM8960 and LTE.
Source: The Verge
Sprint's network currently sucks too bad to support any kind of phone.
Maybe it will change in the future.
This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
While Sprint may be releasing an LTE "Windows Phone 8" device in September, I'll believe it when I see it. Either way, they are so far behind in LTE that it would take a few years for it to be readily available around the country.
I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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you'll probably feel wallet remorse before you feel buyers remorse.
uptempo777 said:
This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
I have no problem with sprint releasing another EVDO WP.. So long as I continue paying $40/mnth
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Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
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I totally agree. Pre-orderer the Nokia Lumia 900 and am saying bye to Sprint. Thanks for the low cost plans Sprint but you guys suck when it comes to having actual good phones.
I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
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I will agree that Microsoft was partly to blame for the INITIAL sludge in to the CDMA market with Sprint and Verizon... however, it has been nearly 13 months now since the Trophy and Arrive were released on the two carriers. There is further opportunity for new devices, but both Verizon and Sprint have put their marketing focus behind iPhone (and some Android).
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I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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My problem with Sprint isn't the price, it is the speed and availability. I travel weekly, and have resorted to carrying a back-up phone (Samsung Focus unlocked on T-Mobile) due to limited service and speed on Sprint's network. Sprint is perfectly fine in major metropolitan areas, but smaller cities (like Fort Wayne, IN where I was last week) leaves a lot to be desired.
If and when Sprint decides to make the jump to LTE, they are going to be at least 12-18 months behind the competition in network expansion. I'm more than happy to pay a premium price for a premium service.
Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
I have been with sprint for almost 10 years now. In the last 2 years I have seen them add a $10 fee per smart phone(on a family plan that is an extra $50 a month), they increased the cost of my additional lines, they have taken away the premiere program, while in a 4G city I can't get 4g, and their their 3g speeds gotten have extremely slow. I would like to stay with sprint because it is a big hardware investment to switch carriers but sprint hasn't made it very easy for me. Now they are lacking in the windows phone offereings. I have a couple of Zune HD users in my house and they really want a WP7 phone but are not pleased with the idea of the arrive. I think sprint was banking too much on the iphone giving them a jump start because of their unlimited data but it has panned out as well as they had hoped. I think this is why why they have ignored the WP7 platform.
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Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
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Not surprising. I'm sure they want to play the "wait and see" game after the Palm Pre didn't do as well as they hoped and they want to go with something that has already proven successful on other carriers.
I would've stayed with sprint but their 3G speeds were getting far too unbearable here in Chicago and the suburbs, plus so many broken promises on when they would fix the towers,it just wasn't worth the $97 I was paying,now with T-mobile I get 10GB of full speed, 500 talk,unlimited text for $100 and my speeds are better than they ever were on sprint, even my throttled speeds are faster than sprint.
Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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vetvito said:
Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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Is the LG phone gonna be better than the Nokia Lumia 900?
Wondered if there are AT&T stores or authourized dealers in Buffalo that will be selling the Nokia Lumia 900 off contract on the first day it's available? I know most units are typically reserved for AT&T customers signing new agreement or upgrading.
If you are an AT&T store or authourized dealer and are selling them off contract, could you please post here or PM me if you can't post in forum?
I'm looking to buy Cyan colour.
Thanks in advance !
I'm in the same boat. Looking for the Cyan 900. But Rogers only has the boring black model. Would prefer it unbranded so I can use the tethering feature.. but also don't think paying $200-$300 more for an unlocked model is worth it.
eBay is our best bet.
Tethering is a feature in the Lumia 900 is it not? It's shipping with Tango (the OS not the app) or have mis-understood the features?
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Tethering is a feature in the Lumia 900 is it not? It's shipping with Tango (the OS not the app) or have mis-understood the features?
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Correct it's a feature. But ATT locks tethering to them so unless you're using it on ATT this feature will never work for you. This is the problem I have using the ATT Titan on Telus.
If you unbranded it then this would unlock tethering to be used on any carrier. I did this with an old HD7.
Then I'll go with black from Rogers and get cyan spray paint ! I've lived with phones that are not fully functional. Rogers Samsung Focus on Fido for example. The SMS never worked right. Nice phone but SMS is a big part of communication, so it became an issue. Sold the phone and dumped Fido. All that said I'm using a Rogers Nokia Lumia 710 on Mobilicity right now. No issues at all.
If AT&T is locking the unit down on this feature... then it's a black unit from Rogers for me. Have to wait and see.
Calling all AT&T corporate stores or authourized dealers in Buffalo.....
Are you selling off contract? If you are, me and a few other Canadians will be right over. Please post and let us know or PM me if you are not allowed to post in forum.
Or anyone living in Buffalo buying one can let us know ?
So far the best I can find is on eBay for $575 shipping here for another $50. Def not worth it.
Patience is a virtue.
FYI, the ATT version is not shipping with Tango. I've got it, and I have 7.10.8112.7 installed from factory. Plugged into Zune, and still no Tango.
Ah... but I think these will likely get Tango first... only makes sense that AT&T flagship device would get priority.
Or.. then again... maybe not. Good to know what version it is. It does have tethering though, so is a version very close to Tango.
Ha I live in buffalo but I preordered my cyan online though
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Ah... but I think these will likely get Tango first... only makes sense that AT&T flagship device would get priority.
Or.. then again... maybe not. Good to know what version it is. It does have tethering though, so is a version very close to Tango.
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Actually, Tethering was in Mango. It just needed to be turned on by your provider to work.
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Actually, Tethering was in Mango. It just needed to be turned on by your provider to work.
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Got to hate those carrier restrictions. I have the Lumia 710 but it does not have tethering yet. Apparently the update is "coming soon". Maybe different models have differnt update schedule ? Would seem to me though that the Lumia 900 would get lots of early attention from Nokia and AT&T.
No chance of me getting to Buffalo today. Even if I could, I know the border is probably busy with holiday traffic.
Some are already posting this phone on KIJIJI in Toronto area for over $600. To me that's crazy but I suppose some will pay it.
I will have to be patient and see what the Rogers version brings. Likely frequency bands will be the same, but one can only hope they do the same thing as they did with the Lumia 710 (penta band with AWS 1700/2100).
Thanks all for reading and keep the posts coming !