Do EG22 and EH06 ROMs have Carrier IQ? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
So I've been noticing that the EC05 roms like to advertise being ciq free, but the newer Eg22 and EH06 roms don't seem to say anything about removing said spy software. Is it safe to assume that these roms are ciq free, or should I just stick with EC05 if I want my privacy?...
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Kangaji said:
Hey guys,
So I've been noticing that the EC05 roms like to advertise being ciq free, but the newer Eg22 and EH06 roms don't seem to say anything about removing said spy software. Is it safe to assume that these roms are ciq free, or should I just stick with EC05 if I want my privacy?...
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CIQ is disabled by default. The real worry is that in future devices it may not be. That said, there is a great amount of effort towards removing it unlikely to be applied towards gb until we have an official release.
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RandomKing said:
CIQ is disabled by default. The real worry is that in future devices it may not be. That said, there is a great amount of effort towards removing it unlikely to be applied towards gb until we have an official release.
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I thought CIQ was not taken out in the GB released because it caused a few problems..

I see. So if I like my privacy I should probably just go back to EC05?
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omair2005 said:
I thought CIQ was not taken out in the GB released because it caused a few problems..
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That was in the EF02 build. Many things have changed since then.

Meaning it's ok now?
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Kangaji said:
Meaning it's ok now?
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I doubt any EG22 or EH06 have a noCIQ mod, *but* ciq isn't even enabled in the first place, just sitting there.
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Kangaji said:
Meaning it's ok now?
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Yes but to make removing it easier they're waiting for official
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I don't like CIQ at all. IT's the main reason I didn't move to any of the leaks.

The Root said:
I don't like CIQ at all. IT's the main reason I didn't move to any of the leaks.
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Why the concern if it is disabled?
After all, you can jump ship back to a non-CIQ ROM if it ever gets turned on, but in the meantime, you could enjoy the latest builds w/o any worries

Kangaji said:
I see. So if I like my privacy I should probably just go back to EC05?
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If you like privacy you should get a basic phone and do nothing but standard phone calls. Google knows EVERYHING about you. Luckily it is too much information to sort through or monitor.

DCRocks said:
Why the concern if it is disabled?
After all, you can jump ship back to a non-CIQ ROM if it ever gets turned on, but in the meantime, you could enjoy the latest builds w/o any worries
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There's no way of knowing if it's on or off at any moment. When people have looked it's been off.
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kennyglass123 said:
If you like privacy you should get a basic phone and do nothing but standard phone calls. Google knows EVERYHING about you. Luckily it is too much information to sort through or monitor.
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Yup. Nobody'll ever see that data (except a bored IT guy who'd get fired if he admitted to looking) unless you actually do something illegal which requires it to be reviewed. Or a terrorist. Or you pissed off a fed.
But I doubt anyone will see the data before it's deleted after however long they have to keep it.

The way I understand it, the fact that it is "off" in current ROMS is very misleading.
The LOCAL logging is turned off, but the system is still very much active doing what Sprint intends it to do and is most assuredly not under the control of the owner of the phone.
That is simply not acceptable. I wish the press would get hold of that information and shame the company into removing it. This type of [email protected] needs to be halted... there needs to be some type of consumer protection that slaps companies that lock us out of our own electronics and put software in that allows control without our acceptance or acknowledgement. People just simply do not get pissed off enough about it and the lack of uproar allows it to keep going.

kennyglass123 said:
If you like privacy you should get a basic phone and do nothing but standard phone calls. Google knows EVERYHING about you. Luckily it is too much information to sort through or monitor.
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I don't much mind GOOGLE knowing everything about me. At least they are upfront about that fact. But, as I recall, CIQ is a SPRINT app, and SPRINT has kept CIQ's existence on the down low. It's bad enough that they behave as if my phone is still their property such that they reserve the right/ability to watch what I do, I don't like that they are so secretive about it.
If they're so secretive about this, who knows what OTHER things they've got on the backburners, eh?

CIQ was a drain on battery and resources. Spyware? Maybe. But I don't know that I want out on my phone even if it isn't. AOSP is the best.
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Battery Popup

Not rushing or begging, obviously I am aware that EB13 has only been around for a short period of time. I saw this mentioned once in one specific update file thread, but thought it could use its own thread (and I'll update this original post when applicable).
If any super awesomely capable person could make a flashable zip file that kills the battery full popup (I believe this has always been done in services.jar) in EB13 ROMs (I happen to be running the stock EB13 via using Samsung's Windows tool) it would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your time and effort.
It will be done you need to give the devs some time. Everything give seen and been use to will be ported. No need for request.
Fyi: the development section is for people that are actually developing anything. All request.should be in the general section
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MysteryEmotionz said:
It will be done you need to give the devs some time. Everything give seen and been use to will be ported. No need for request.
Fyi: the development section is for people that are actually developing anything. All request.should be in the general section
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Gotta love swype... ACS got anything up it's sleeve?
ptfdmedic said:
Gotta love swype... ACS got anything up it's sleeve?
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Oh yes. Mystery's going to have all of his excellent themes updated, and SyndicateROM Frozen is in the kitchen right now - along with a fantastic custom kernel from our new kernel team.
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Oh yes. Mystery's going to have all of his excellent themes updated, and SyndicateROM Frozen is in the kitchen right now - along with a fantastic custom kernel from our new kernel team.
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Fantastic..... I've noticed most themes seem to still be compatible. Has the framework changed much? We need to get Samsung to do a release without TW and make our lives SO MUCH easier.
ptfdmedic said:
Fantastic..... I've noticed most themes seem to still be compatible. Has the framework changed much? We need to get Samsung to do a release without TW and make our lives SO MUCH easier.
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I doubt it's changed much, but many themes update apps as well. Speaking of framework, I found some not-so-goodies in framework.jar...
One step closer to killing Carrier IQ completely.
k0nane said:
I doubt it's changed much, but many themes update apps as well. Speaking of framework, I found some not-so-goodies in framework.jar...
One step closer to killing Carrier IQ completely.
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What are these "not-so-goodies"??
spitefulrain said:
What are these "not-so-goodies"??
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Carrier IQ is Sprint spyware that logs data on just about everything you do with the phone, as well as some location data, and signal data. It's been around since Eclair, and since the days when the Moment was new.
ACS - specifically DevinXtreme and I - were the first to begin removing it, at the kernel level.
And I've just removed more.
Code:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate service com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService in loader dalvik.system.PathClassLoader[.]
*sniffs* It's... it's beautiful...
(Boot is fine - no negative side effects. The Carrier IQ service is now DEAD!)
k0nane said:
Carrier IQ is Sprint spyware that logs data on just about everything you do with the phone, as well as some location data, and signal data. It's been around since Eclair, and since the days when the Moment was new.
ACS - specifically DevinXtreme and I - were the first to begin removing it, at the kernel level.
And I've just removed more.
Code:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate service com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService in loader dalvik.system.PathClassLoader[.]
*sniffs* It's... it's beautiful...
(Boot is fine - no negative side effects. The Carrier IQ service is now DEAD!)
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Yes! go K0nane! And ACS of course Can't wait to see what you guys come up with XD
spitefulrain said:
Yes! go K0nane! And ACS of course Can't wait to see what you guys come up with XD
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How's 100/100+ point rises in Smartbench scores for Productivity and Gaming?
k0nane said:
How's 100/100+ point rises in Smartbench scores for Productivity and Gaming?
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Pretty damn amazing in my book, so long as its not fake
k0nane said:
Carrier IQ is Sprint spyware that logs data on just about everything you do with the phone, as well as some location data, and signal data. It's been around since Eclair, and since the days when the Moment was new.
ACS - specifically DevinXtreme and I - were the first to begin removing it, at the kernel level.
And I've just removed more.
Code:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate service com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService in loader dalvik.system.PathClassLoader[.]
*sniffs* It's... it's beautiful...
(Boot is fine - no negative side effects. The Carrier IQ service is now DEAD!)
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Since Carrier IQ isn't monitoring/sending data has it's removal had a noticeable battery difference?
k0nane said:
Carrier IQ is Sprint spyware that logs data on just about everything you do with the phone, as well as some location data, and signal data. It's been around since Eclair, and since the days when the Moment was new.
ACS - specifically DevinXtreme and I - were the first to begin removing it, at the kernel level.
And I've just removed more.
Code:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate service com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.IQService in loader dalvik.system.PathClassLoader[.]
*sniffs* It's... it's beautiful...
(Boot is fine - no negative side effects. The Carrier IQ service is now DEAD!)
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Kernel level optimization is the specific reason why I'm holding out on EB13.... DK28 is quite buggy, but with limited time I'm biding it so that when I do have time to burn flashing this phone I'm going to be doing it with the EB13 ACS build and the successor to Xtreme kernel
spitefulrain said:
Pretty damn amazing in my book, so long as its not fake
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It's 100% organic - born of freedom from Carrier IQ!
063_XOBX said:
Since Carrier IQ isn't monitoring/sending data has it's removal had a noticeable battery difference?
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Battery life testing hasn't been performed yet, but rest assured it will be improved.
snowmanwithahat said:
Kernel level optimization is the specific reason why I'm holding out on EB13.... DK28 is quite buggy, but with limited time I'm biding it so that when I do have time to burn flashing this phone I'm going to be doing it with the EB13 ACS build and the successor to Xtreme kernel
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Our optimizations will be on every level - kernel and ROM. Keep an eye out - ACS is coming with a monster!
k0nane said:
It's 100% organic - born of freedom from Carrier IQ!
Battery life testing hasn't been performed yet, but rest assured it will be improved.
Our optimizations will be on every level - kernel and ROM. Keep an eye out - ACS is coming with a monster!
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You forgot to mention are themes are optimized also
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MysteryEmotionz said:
You forgot to mention are themes are optimized also
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That's a given.
Why do people care about the battery full popup? The lower battery one is the one that irritates me. I missed the opportunity to take some good pictures because that stupid thing
Already fixed the full battery popup. Will be in the Quantum Rom v3.0.0 and posted as an Addon.
bobdude5 said:
Why do people care about the battery full popup? The lower battery one is the one that irritates me. I missed the opportunity to take some good pictures because that stupid thing
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I hate it because it wakes me up every damn night.
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Dameon87 said:
Already fixed the full battery popup. Will be in the Quantum Rom v3.0.0 and posted as an Addon.
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All the niceties will also be in SyndicateROM Frozen.
And make those even bigger jumps.

[Q] Sprint and your Rom...

i just go done talking to sprint.... my phone has a Display problem...i asked for a warranty replacement. I told them what happened and i didnt tell them it was rooted because of the obvious reasons.... as it turns out sprint can actually remotely go into your phone and know exactly what you are running.... They asked about myn and warm 2.2.... so i had to tell them... so just a heads up be careful who you talk to.... did anyone else know this?
Wow, I didnt know that but thanks for the H.U.
Luckily I have TEP so its not much of a problem but that would be something to look out for if your phone starts acting up
What happened?
Did they follow through with the Warranty or void it? I do IT work for a few sprint stores and was told that rooting the phone would void its warranty (hence why I ask). In the same breathe, none of them at the stores would know
Thanks for the info.
jpagel said:
Did they follow through with the Warranty or void it? I do IT work for a few sprint stores and was told that rooting the phone would void its warranty (hence why I ask). In the same breathe, none of them at the stores would know
Thanks for the info.
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they said that my warranty is VOID until i can prove that im on stock rom and the only way to do that is by going to the store.
lui22 said:
they said that my warranty is VOID until i can prove that im on stock rom and the only way to do that is by going to the store.
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Dang man that's no good. Sorry to hear.
So what if you ruu back to factory settings? About 3 weeks ago I had to have a speaker replaced they didn't say anything about it but he actually asked me if I had ever thought about rooting I just played dumb. That's crazy though that they can see that remotely... actually no thats not that crazy.
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Just run the ruu. If your phone is usb connected and the only issue is the display that won't prevent you from going back to stock. You can check usb connectivity in windows or by doing an adb devices if you have set up adb.
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So flash back to a stock Rom and and turn s back on. That's proof...
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lui22 said:
i just go done talking to sprint.... my phone has a Display problem...i asked for a warranty replacement. I told them what happened and i didnt tell them it was rooted because of the obvious reasons.... as it turns out sprint can actually remotely go into your phone and know exactly what you are running.... They asked about myn and warm 2.2.... so i had to tell them... so just a heads up be careful who you talk to.... did anyone else know this?
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH SPRINT.that is Invasion Of Privacy completely Unlawful and unnessecary why cant they just have asked you .......very concerning
Just flash the 1.47 RUU then run S-ON. You'll be essentially downgrading low enough to where you can re-run Unrevoked with no problems whatsoever. Good luck.
where do i get the app that tells me what is on other people's phones
jasongthang said:
where do i get the app that tells me what is on other people's phones
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hold on let me call sprint i wanna see whats on my girlfriends phone......
fadimo305 said:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH SPRINT.that is Invasion Of Privacy completely Unlawful and unnessecary why cant they just have asked you .......very concerning
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Hold on, hold on...before we get all flared up, I don't think Sprint is actually logging on to our phones.
They are likely just getting Mod/Kernel version from About Phone menu option..just the way they can know about the PRL/PRI from their system (may be these are the traces that our phones leaves on the system).
If you guys are so worried, just go to build.prop and change the mod/build name.
JoeLithium said:
So flash back to a stock Rom and and turn s back on. That's proof...
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yeah ive dont that befor for some reason s stays off even after i updated like 3 times... i went back to the rom that came with the phone when i got it.... strange....and i can also charge while in amon_ra or clockwork mod i wonder if they will be able to see if i was on a non sense rom or on WP7? anyone wanna try and seee?
sshark said:
Hold on, hold on...before we get all flared up, I don't think Sprint is actually logging on to our phones.
They are likely just getting Mod/Kernel version from About Phone menu option..just the way they can know about the PRL/PRI from their system (may be these are the traces that our phones leaves on the system).
If you guys are so worried, just go to build.prop and change the mod/build name.
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good idea but what if it dont work?
lui22 said:
good idea but what if it dont work?
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enough with the what ifs
lui22 said:
good idea but what if it dont work?
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That's what we do on XDA...find what works spirit lives on...
jasongthang said:
enough with the what ifs
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alright enough with the "ifs" and lets get to work. your first
lui22 said:
alright enough with the "ifs" and lets get to work. your first
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sorry, not trying to be rude. But no sense asking what ifs, just because this seems to be news to everyone that Sprint can do this. So changing the build.prop might be a good start, if that doesnt work then I dont know. I don't develop these things. Maybe make some type of cached image that looks legit, so Sprint sees that instead of the actual figures. Or some type of block maybe
Or sue them
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sorry, not trying to be rude. But no sense asking what ifs, just because this seems to be news to everyone that Sprint can do this. So changing the build.prop might be a good start, if that doesnt work then I dont know. I don't develop these things. Maybe make some type of cached image that looks legit, so Sprint sees that instead of the actual figures. Or some type of block maybe
Or sue them
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oh i know you didnt meant to be rude, sorry if it seemed i was i meant it as a joke of good spirit

Ciq test?

So with all this troubling info on CIQ I saw that verizon stated they do not have it installed on any of there devices. Anyone on a stock rooted verizon rom want to test this and post it here? How do we know there telling the truth?
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bangdrum said:
So with all this troubling info on CIQ I saw that verizon stated they do not have it installed on any of there devices. Anyone on a stock rooted verizon rom want to test this and post it here? How do we know there telling the truth?
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I checked the applications list on a unrooted stock verizon rom, and nothing there with "IQ" or "CIQ" in it's name, seems clean. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place though.
Yea the problem with that is it may be under a different name.
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bangdrum said:
Yea the problem with that is it may be under a different name.
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Checked the red DI2 while it was still stock on HB.98 and afterward on RMK's Ginger Sense, rechecked it on SK's Zeus 1.3 - looked clear of CIQ.
However, while it's stripped of most if not all VZW bloatware, it is still running many Google & HTC apps on the device, I wouldn't be sure as others said. Besides, as long as location-based is checked & it's using data - one can be sure "Big Brother" is watching/monitoring somewhere .... the Patriot Act or otherwise, LOL.
Use common sense, it's a smartphone with a browser .... Facebook, Twitter, SMS/MMS, IM, Talk & GV, etc. !
If anyone wants to check to be sure that the Ciq stuff is gone, use This
It's an easy check. Will also take care of any other loggers as well if there are any.
Verizon went on record as saying they don't use CIQ, so I guess we can trust them on that...
They may not use CIQ, but you can bet they have some form of data analytiçs on their devices.
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If anyone wants to check to be sure that the Ciq stuff is gone, use This
It's an easy check. Will also take care of any other loggers as well if there are any.
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I ran this on my unrooted Dinc 2 and it came back clean.... It seems they are telling the truth. Who knows about other software though.
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cstone1991 said:
I ran this on my unrooted Dinc 2 and it came back clean.... It seems they are telling the truth. Who knows about other software though.
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Just for curiosity did you check the Htc logger setting as well?
I am glad to know that stock there is no Ciq. Thanks for posting the result.
We don't use torture"
Right, just like that Cha Hanus VP back in the Bush Wack days said "We don't do it".
Doesn't mean that they don't hire it out under a different name..
Is HTC North or South Korea? I bet they are somewhere in between.
Did CARNORVOR ever end up devouring itself?
For years Brit's have spied on the US for the US and the US has spied on Britten for Britten just so they each could say "We don't conduct those type of operations".
HAH. I say If ya want to know, ask. Otherwise it's just second hand news...
And that's what got US to cleanup up Iraq. No wait a minute, It was because SadMan insulted Pa Pa Hog Wash Bush.
I better quit while I am still breathing.... And the ruels of engaugement will change yet again.
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Just for curiosity did you check the Htc logger setting as well?
I am glad to know that stock there is no Ciq. Thanks for posting the result.
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No problem. I just ran the HTC Logging Tools test and there are 4 hits on that one.
System/app/qxdm2sd.apk
system/app/qxdm2sd.odex
system/lib/libhtcqxdm2sd.so
System/bin/htc_ebdlogd
I know the first 3 are all parts of the same app. Not sure what the last one is but it appears to be some kind of log. I assume its the log created by the app but thats just a guess.
Let me know if there is anything else you want me to test because I will probably be rooting my phone this weekend.
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Best way

Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
JRngln said:
Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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tylerlawhon said:
As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.
It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.
Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
JRngln said:
Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
JRngln said:
I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more
Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.
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I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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To root, or not to root. Solos' Long journey to finding his fate.

Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.
It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace

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