Moving apps to /system/data/ (Alex-V 1.0 GB) - Desire General

Hi everyone
I had previously on my Desire a Froyo custom rom Alex-V 2.3.
I removed system apps I don't use and as I had quite a lot of free space, using adb push, I moved apps from /data/app to /system/app.
And it used to work.
Now I've "upgraded" to a gingerbread rom Alex-V 1.0 GB.
I removed system apps I don't use easily, but when I move apps to system/app, I get a force close (I tried with several apps).
I tried with adb push, copy/paste, by flashing, nothing works.
Did someone try it and succeed ? Or does someone would know why this happen ?

What apps?
Fixing permissions usually work. Try to set them.

Did you tried with titanium backup pro?
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same here - force close

hey !
sorry for late answer
davebugyi, setting permissions didn't help
but then I tried k3lcior's idea with Titanium Backup Pro (I didn't notice there was an option to convert in system app !) and it works !
Thank you guys
You should try this arizone, but you'll need the paid version of Titanium to get this option available.

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[Q]Moving Miui App to Synergy Rom

How could i push these two Apps from MIUI to my 7/23 Synergy Kingdom Rom...??? Pushed to System -> apps on root explorer wont work... was wondering if this was possible.
After pushing them AND setting the permissions, reboot the phone.
Posting & replying from my EVO 4G
I'll try again... but setting permissions hasnt seemed to help much... could it be some apps just can't work with specific roms due to coding and stuff?
I get error process com.miui.camera has stopped unexpectedly. as well as with the notes app every time i try and open after i have pushed into system/apps folder and changed permissions to read-owner group other and write-owner..
Should i have copied additional files from the miui rom than just the app files for camera and notes to port correctly over to the synergy rom?
thanks for the help!!
I'm not sure of the exact way you would go about getting these apps to work on Synergy, but I can tell you this-
A lot of apps on MIUI are tied into the rom. People have tried and failed many times to move just the apps over. The only apps you can use on other roms are the apps that people have specifically tweaked to be installable on any rom - like the music app.
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ah thank you, i was assuming something like this was the case, thank you very much!

[Q] Titanium Backup completely messed up EG22

OK,
I was just finished installing my phone with EG22 (meaning Gingerbread ROM, not Radio), but I had some strange issue.
I installed Titanium Backup and tried to remove (force) Amazon mp3 apk. The phone rebooted into recovery and an error appeard telling Clockwork couldn't mount /system.
The phone was bricked, couldn't do anything in recovery, any action would lead to a screen with an Android logo and a "!" sign in a triangle.
So I used odin to reinstall stock Froyo (trying to flash CWM directly failed too) and now I'm rooting again in order to reflash with EG22. Any issues like these? Did I do something stupid trying to remove the app? What if I adb with root privileges and delete the app?
Regards
I think it was just a fluke
I delete the Amazonmp3 apk all the time. EG22 was really stable for me, too. I don't think you did anything wrong. I would just chalk it up to a bad flash or random corruption.
It was indeed very strange, never had such an issue. Is it the same to remove it via Titanium Backup or via adb directly?
Get sdx app removal tool. You can backup all your bloat before deleting them. It also allows you to restore those apps.
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mschmiedel said:
It was indeed very strange, never had such an issue. Is it the same to remove it via Titanium Backup or via adb directly?
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Titanium backup works fine for me. I have to spend a few hours in it every time I install a new ROM anyway, so I just delete and freeze apps there. Never really had a problem unless I do something stupid like delete the market or the status bar, lol.
Well,
Just removed manually (with ADB) all the bloatware, Seems to have worked fine, still finding apps like:
AllShare (will see what it's for)
Free HD Game
Nascar
SprintID (there's certainly no app in /system/app that contains Sprint or sprint)??
And that should be it, from having over 20 useless apks to having 4 is a big improvement. Still wondering why Titanium messed up my device, but well, doing it manually is also fun...
mschmiedel said:
Well,
Just removed manually (with ADB) all the bloatware, Seems to have worked fine, still finding apps like:
AllShare (will see what it's for)
Free HD Game
Nascar
SprintID (there's certainly no app in /system/app that contains Sprint or sprint)??
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1. AllShare is useless, just get rid of it. I always do even though I forget what it does.
2. The free HD games APK is BS from Sprint that does nothing for you. NASCAR is Sprint's NASCAR app. If you use it, you can delete it.
3. I would keep SprintID. It is Sprint's weird theme applier/app installer. I don't use it but I always keep it.
All of these can be SAFELY removed with Titanium Backup. I have done it to all of them, I think on EG22 also.

[Q] Using Titanium to Force System App

Hey guys, I am trying to use Titanium Backup to move launcher pro to system app so that it moves a little smoother and every time I do the launcher force closes and can't be used until I uninstall and re-install it. Am I doing something wrong? Should I go about changing it to a system app some other way? Thanks.
I remember reading something in another thread that stated you would need to use TB to freeze the stock launcher, in addition to what you've already done. I've never tried it myself so don't hold me to it.
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I've successfully converted GoLauncher to a system app.
Did you set permissions the same as the rest of the /system/apk? Then reboot?

[Q] titanium pro question

hi guys just a quick question i have titanium pro and im going to remove a few apks from the system now my question is i know if i remove them and install a update to the rom it installes everything back on but if i freeze the apks instead when i flash a update to the rom will they remain frozen or will i have to freeze them again :silly:
also is freezing them just as affective as uninstalling them (freeing memory ect)
thank you
You shouldn't really uninstall any apps. The system Partition has over 700 megabytes of free space, and if you free that space you to won't be able to use it for anything (like saving pictures).
If you freeze the apps you'll get the same advantage as removing them: the won't be available on the launcher and won't autostart. And if anything bad happens you can just unfreeze the apps instead of having to install the entire rom again.
So, the answer is: just freeze the apps.
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vladeco said:
You shouldn't really uninstall any apps. The system Partition has over 700 megabytes of free space, and if you free that space you to won't be able to use it for anything (like saving pictures).
If you freeze the apps you'll get the same advantage as removing them: the won't be available on the launcher and won't autostart. And if anything bad happens you can just unfreeze the apps instead of having to install the entire rom again.
So, the answer is: just freeze the apps.
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thanks for the fast reply
ya im not uninstalling/freezing apps for more space just annoying when have say 5 to 6 system apps which i dont use or want :crying:
so its best to freeze and still have all the benifits of uninstalling (like the services stop ect)
thanks:good:
also do you know that if i flash new version of rom that it unfreezes apps or do they stay frozen
If you flash new ROM with Kies/Odin it will be replaced by newr one and so you have to freeze it again.
In case of OTA (Though doubtful you may get on rooted devce), it will remain as it is OR may be replace if OTA will have update for that application.
dr.ketan said:
If you flash new ROM with Kies/Odin it will be replaced by newr one and so you have to freeze it again.
In case of OTA (Though doubtful you may get on rooted devce), it will remain as it is OR may be replace if OTA will have update for that application.
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thanks well im on omega rom so just update through cwm as usual shouldnt unfreeze apps? i know they reinstall everytime :silly:
Freezing is not only about free space.
It also means that some bloat which can cause load and slow down the phone is removed.
I think a combo of filters and label might help.
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Troubles in Making user apps as system apps

Hi every one.
I am new here. So I'm writing with all the details I can think of.
I'm using HTC desire x jelly bean in India. I've temp rooted the device. Now I run with a twrp touch screen edition revovery. I run the stock version (with odex) Rom. The only changes I made is removal of some bloatware.
The main reason I've rooted my device is to save space by pushing non movable and frequently used apps to system/app .
Since I only have temp root, The way I'm making user apps as system app is as follows
1. creating a backup Apk file either by manually copying from data/app or by clean master.
2 uninstall the app.
3 after entering the twrp recovery, I move the Apk files to system/app ( I don't create any odex files for the moved app)
4 reboot after wiping dalvik & cache.
Its a working method. But my problem is that several apps both that I frequently uses and high size are cannot converted into system apps. After making such apps as system apps, when I try to open them it force closes, crashes, or misbehaving (eg. Shows No internet connectivity even if I'm connected to web). I tried odexing the user Apk. But it not seems to be the problem. I like to know
1 why is this happening.
2 can I identify such apps before moving it to the /system/app
3 how/can I solve this isue ( I don't own a pc).
4 I am writing a list of apps that I've already tried and failed to convert as system apps. If there is no general methods can you suggest methods for the following apps
Quick pick
Mx player
BS player
Chrome
Adobe reader
Google plus
Opera mini
Opera
Google Maps
RAR
Mozilla Firefox
Freecharge
Advance download manager
Google search
Dolphin browser Jetpack
Chess free
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for the reply. I forgot to mention on my post that I run chmod_66 from recovery. I think that fixes the permission issues. Also I tried "fix permissions", but really don't know what it does.
Like I mentioned before I am a temp root user. Can't mess around with my ROM when the OS is up. The only option I have is the TWRP recovery.
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I have temp root. The main thing I am sticking with it because I saw, when I set s-off the handset vibrates 7 times at start up, and there is no proper guide to set the s back on. I looked to permanent root my device because I want to merge the in built memory and app storage partition. But I'm not an expert in this area and need to play it safe. I didn't satisfied with any guide for turning security on again after s-off.
I can get my hands on to my friends pc on some holidays too. But I would prefer not using a pc if I can do the same with my handset.
My handset is
HTC desire x running jelly bean
With temp root and TWRP touch version for jb
Also run odexed stock Rom
Any one has s-off version of the same device as mine and can run any of the apps I listed in the question?
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My device is an HTC handset
It has a unique feature that even after you unlock your bootloader and flash super user (which I did) it will be in still s-on mode. S stands for security I think. With s-on you can have root access, but can't alter your Rom while you are running your OS. That's why I'm using my custom recovery all the time. Doing an s-off comes with some bug that the device will vibrate 7 or 10 Times while I an booting. And removing the super user app won't do any good. You need to turn s back on for its to stop. And I don't have a clear picture about the "turning s back on" procedure.
And I think I can do almost everything with my temporary root. And moving Apk files to /system/app and giving it read write permission is very much possible with my recovery.
If you alter the Rom while running your OS with temp root, the device will restart and the changes that you made to the Rom will be disappear. So the instructions you are giving me is not going to work for me.
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OK try system app installer which directly install the app to you system app and don't try to convert user app to system app because sometimes(some apps) its crashing so,I recommended you install app directly to your system
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N_psycho_PD_uh? said:
having full permanent root and moving your files while in your phones OS with superuser root permissions is the ***EASIEST*** way, what im telling you works on just about every android device, if not ALL of them, you are going around your ass for no reason, you haven't had any luck with the way you are trying, the way I told you WORKS without a doubt so what is your problem? its simple, full root, move what you want to move, unroot, then go back to your temp root setup and you'll be where you want to be,I'm done, you've been given advice on how to do it but you are a closed minded person that is looking for the answer that you WANT to hear instead of the answer that exists.
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I can convert user apps to system apps without any help alright. You are just telling me to do what I've been doing. Its not an answer to my question. And incase you don't know what s-off and s-on is, you probably shouldn't understand what I am really asking. I don't want any help with converting user apps as system apps.
I assume that you have permanent root device. Please try to make the apps I have mentioned as system apps and write back if its working for you. Try mx player and terminal emulator first. And write back with your experience
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Try to use Titanium Backup or Link2SD apks. This is the way I convert my user apps in system apps. In AppMgr.apk you can see what apps is not good to convert. Good luck!
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N_psycho_PD_uh? said:
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also the apps you named can only be used on a full root device, this user has no way to do it without full root and the apos don't have to be converted, just moved to system with write permission
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Sorry (I mean... move, not convert)! I think he need full root, like you say, my bad...
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N_psycho_PD_uh? said:
I'm trying to tell you that your difficulty is coming from using temp root instead of full root, if you fully rooted your device then there would be no more s off or s on because that is a function of temp root, full root does NOT have that restriction, fully root your device and you will be able to do it, I realize you have the s-off and s-on and that the problem you are having is that you can't remember how to turn it of or on, if you were to become a full root user instead of a temp root user and got used to it then you'd see that it performs MUCH easier and isn't limited and you stop being a temp root user because if you can run then why wrap a rope around your ankles? Android is much easier and multi functional when it is a rooted device and is not limited in any way.
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Did you moved your mx player app to system like I requested in last post ?
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