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[Q] Bloatware Reappears on Restart

So I used Visionary to root my HTC Desire Z, checked that it was rooted with Android Terminal Emulator using su returning #
I then proceeded to delete all the .apk's of the bloatware in /system/app folder
Upon restart they reappeared. I've tried 3 different file managers and I also tried deleting their data folders in /data/data and now matter what I do they reappear on a restart.
Does this mean it is hard coded into the ROM? DO I have to wait for a permanent root and flash a new stock ROM minus the bloatware?
Anyone found a solution or maybe i'm doing it wrong...

This is another example of where we're miles behind the G2 forums. Check out the G2 ROM Dev forum, there is an app there to show how you can delete built-in apps and then they won't reappear.
But BE CAREFUL ! It will probably be the case that if you go down this road, you may have a problem with future OTA updates.
The reason it's not working with your current method is that you're not really deleting anything. Write access to the internal storage is not possible right now (it is being worked on intensively for the G2), so the phone is caching the file system and making it appear they've been deleted, but the internal storage hasn't been updated. So when you reboot, the app just comes back again. This is how come there's been a myth that the phone automatically "un-does" any changes and resets itself when you reboot - it's not really doing that, because you didn't make any permanent changes in the first place.

steviewevie said:
This is another example of where we're miles behind the G2 forums. Check out the G2 ROM Dev forum, there is an app there to show how you can delete built-in apps and then they won't reappear.
But BE CAREFUL ! It will probably be the case that if you go down this road, you may have a problem with future OTA updates.
The reason it's not working with your current method is that you're not really deleting anything. Write access to the internal storage is not possible right now (it is being worked on intensively for the G2), so the phone is caching the file system and making it appear they've been deleted, but the internal storage hasn't been updated. So when you reboot, the app just comes back again. This is how come there's been a myth that the phone automatically "un-does" any changes and resets itself when you reboot - it's not really doing that, because you didn't make any permanent changes in the first place.
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Thanks for the explanation! Hmm yeah, I don't know if I want to start flashing roms or leave it stock because it's pretty decent stock. And I did hear that updating/upgrading to new OS's have problems is you delete the bloatware programs...
Thanks again

st1n6r4y said:
So I used Visionary to root my HTC Desire Z, checked that it was rooted with Android Terminal Emulator using su returning #
I then proceeded to delete all the .apk's of the bloatware in /system/app folder
Upon restart they reappeared. I've tried 3 different file managers and I also tried deleting their data folders in /data/data and now matter what I do they reappear on a restart.
Does this mean it is hard coded into the ROM? DO I have to wait for a permanent root and flash a new stock ROM minus the bloatware?
Anyone found a solution or maybe i'm doing it wrong...
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try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!

seattleboi1982 said:
try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!
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Cool thanks!

seattleboi1982 said:
try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!
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Tried this method. Everything works fine (rooted, Busybox installed), but when I try to pick the option to "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)" I get the error message "Cannot remove system app, Failed to locate apk file".
What am I doing wrong?

redpoint73 said:
Tried this method. Everything works fine (rooted, Busybox installed), but when I try to pick the option to "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)" I get the error message "Cannot remove system app, Failed to locate apk file".
What am I doing wrong?
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Never mind, I figured it out. You need to have either S-OFF or CID unlock in order for this method to work. I was only rooted, and intentionally not S-OFF and SuperCID. I used the gfree method to S-OFF and SuperCID, and the above method of removing the bloatware seems to be working perfectly now.

redpoint73 said:
Never mind, I figured it out. You need to have either S-OFF or CID unlock in order for this method to work. I was only rooted, and intentionally not S-OFF and SuperCID. I used the gfree method to S-OFF and SuperCID, and the above method of removing the bloatware seems to be working perfectly now.
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It was the S-OFF. Unless you have S-OFF, you still have write protection on the system and recovery partitions. So apps will appear to get deleted as the information is written to cache. But they'll come back on a reboot because the information was never written to (deleted from) permanent storage.

So if I'm rooted using Visionary and have S off using the gfree method but I never installed busybox.. What would be the best method? Can I just install busybox and install or would I need to do another method?
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Rickroller said:
So if I'm rooted using Visionary and have S off using the gfree method but I never installed busybox.. What would be the best method? Can I just install busybox and install or would I need to do another method?
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Just install Busybox.
The above method worked great EXCEPT for one app: Kobo (e-reader). I've tried to force remove in Titanium Backup three times now, and also tried using the "regular" un-install option in Titanium Backup. Every time the phone reboots, Kobo is still there.
Any ideas?

I used an app called system app remover i think thats the name...not 100% suree...but i got it to get rid of wifi calling cuz im on roger and tmobile wifi calling wouldnt work so i tried the titanium back up method and it didnt work so i looked around and android underground had a download for the app and it removed the app and it went into an fc loop so i pulled the battery and it is gone and rom runs perfectly fine
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
I used an app called system app remover i think thats the name...not 100% suree...but i got it to get rid of wifi calling cuz im on roger and tmobile wifi calling wouldnt work so i tried the titanium back up method and it didnt work so i looked around and android underground had a download for the app and it removed the app and it went into an fc loop so i pulled the battery and it is gone and rom runs perfectly fine
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Using an app called Absolute System Root Tool has the feature to uninstall system apps, and this worked for me to remove Kobo.

Now that I'm rooted

What can I do with my phone now that I am rooted? Are there certain things I can do to make my phones speeds processor wise, and internet wise faster? Also how can I now get wifi hotspot on my phone? I have the G2

Now that your rooted, I would suggest to start reading different threads here in the G2/DZ forums and learn the diffrent things you can do with your phone including how to put wifi hotspot on your phone, theres a button called "search" to help you out. =)
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Now that you are rooted you can do a lot to your phone, now that you have full control of it.
You can uninstall pre-installed applications that you don't use or want
You can install a custom recovery environment that allows you to make a full system backup of your phone to your SD card.
You can install a custom ROM (new version of Android OS) that has different features/capabilities.
You can run "root-only" applications, for example Titanium Backup (highly recommended)
As mentioned above, search and browse these forums and see what the possibilities are.

Like the other replies...basically now u can do whatever u want to your phone!
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[Q] Unroot a custom rom?

Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?

Tweak_four17 said:
Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
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If you want to unroot, you'll need to go back to stock.
The reason they want unrooted phones, is not so much a security issue, as it is they just don't understand or don't wish to deal with possible problems.

If you backup your apps and data you can run the official RUU, and it will put the original unrooted system to your phone. I don't know other method.
Here are the official ROMs: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo

Removing the SU binaries will unroot you, I don't see the need as to why you have to be unrooted though.

apparently you can't use the new movie-rental feature of google's market, when you are rooted.
Is it possible to stick to a custom rom but unroot it, so that google recognises your phone as a not-rooted device and allows you to watch movies from market?
I don't need root-permissions every day - in fact I only need it for Titanium Backup, so deleting su-binaries and/or superuser.apk would be ok - but it must be possible to restore them (via recovery/adb) to run TB.
This probably isn't what google wants you to do since you can download the movie to watch later and if you have a working recovery you probably could get you hands on the downloaded files, but still - would be nice, if this was possible.

Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down

How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!

madcr0w said:
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
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Demonic idea
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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I like your idea mate! Hahahahahaha....
Edit: Bad boy! Bad bad boy! hahahahahahahaha....

kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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Has anyone ever tested this?

Or why don't you just delete superuser via adb or android commander

good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.

List:
/system/app/superuser
/system/bin/su
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I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.

vvelumm said:
I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.
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You renamed SU.apk to SU.apk.bak most likely...
What did you rename the libs file to?

vvelumm said:
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
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I have rooted my HTC Salsa to get apps2sd which is great, but now my mobile banking app says it will not work on a rooted device, similar to your issue.
I am new to android modding, what commands do i need to enter where to rename the files you mention ?
Thanks in advance.
Mike

wont work good enterprises would more than likely check every time like sky go. you would have to removed a2sd command line i think and all su binarys ( and su.akp ( difficult as its normally a system app and once one of the su has been removed you dont have premition to remove the other/
and to the donunt who said ( the dont understand root) wanna cookie 0. basicly good enterprise is a secure web client for companys to send information to mobiles, i have it on my work (iphone) <<<< scummmy.. anyways as root gives to the option to do what ever you or anyone else wants with the phone in theory you could use that system to breack the law or for instance chaindd could possible put an update in to su that will take data from the company> for google videos ) well with root you can screen record ( basicly ) excuse the spelling im trying to find out how to un root and keep all of my system ui mods and themes and my rom ( proving difficult)

hey I know that this is based on a old post but I have a question did you ever find out how to unroot a custom rom that is pre-rooted?

Just unlocked and rooted my gnex...now what? (Newb)

Can anyone give someone fairly new to android some tips on what to do next now that I have unlocked and rooted? Running 4.0.2 now btw
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Custom roms.

I know about the roms but more specifically what about the apps that require root access?
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The root apps I use often are adbWireless and Titanium Backup.
But why would you root if you didn't even have a need to do so? Sounds like you're running stock anyway...

Titanium backup is the first app I use that requires root access. It lets you backup all of your apps and their saved data so you can restore them later. I think it is a must have app for any Android user.
Another one I use is SSH Tunnel to get around the corporate firewall when I connect to the wifi at work.
You can also get root file browsers so you can manipulate the system files on your phone.
You can find a lot of apps just by searching for root in the android market.

+1 on Titanium Backup. Here are a few I am using that require root:
LBE Privacy Guard
SetCPU
Nova Launcher (requires root to display widgets in the widget drawer)
ROM Manager
Root Explorer
Also running Android Revolution ROM, which is pretty much stock ICS with a bunch of speed/memory tweaks.

Nand -- the very first thing you should do is a complete nand backup so you have a bit by bit backup of your phone in case you need to restore it. This is beyond Titanium and if you are going to get into ROMs and kernels you will want to make a practice out of this.

I would say research. Typing something along the lines of "top root apps" into Google will bring up a myriad of results. Being able to research and read on your own will go a long way to helping you get out of a situation if you mess up your phone some how.

1) Clockwork Mod Recovery
Most important! Allows you to make a copy of your entire system as is. You make a mistake, you can return your system back to it's original working order. Don't leave home without it!
2) Titanium Back Up
Allows you to back up apps and/or corresponding data. This allows you to restore specific apps without restoring your entire system.
These two apps are commonly known as the two must have apps for root users. They will be your safety net. I would also recommend that you get the paid version on both. You won't want a limited safety net, if you get yourself into a "situation"
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PS A nandroid is backup of your phones entire current system. Clockwork Mod Recovery does that.
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Another +1 for Titanium Backup. I've used it on every phone since the Nexus One and love it. It can even help you migrate apps to new phones, as long as you setup the configuration correctly. Make sure not to save system apps to restore on a different phone (did this when I got my Galaxy S II and it would boot-loop or restart every few minutes...then I remembered I had some system apps in my backup haha).
WiFi Tether: Best tethering app on the planet. Setup is easy (in settings just pick the Galaxy Nexus CDMA/GSM, then assign a name and password to your "router"), use is even easier. Open the app and tap the *only button on the app*. It turns your phone into a wireless hotspot. I used it all last night before my internet was installed (new place), and it worked perfectly. Got 15-25Mbps speeds and it's completely reliable. Played some MMOs using it =P
Rom Manager: Especially helpful once you start using custom roms and such, but also helpful for doing a NAND backup. This will backup your *entire* phone. When you want to restore it'll be as if you were in the exact same place as when you made the backup. Fantastic ability.
Root Manager: Helpful for if you need to browse system files or edit them. Nice for blocking ads, deleting system stuff, etc...

I know on previous phones I could just install RM, and then flash CWM that way. Is that also okay with the GN? I've read topics on how to install CWM but installing via RM just seems a lot easier and quicker.

pop-up permission window and root-banking app issue

Hi.
Recently I unlocked and rooted my G4. There were some problems with him, so I installed a theoretical clean soft from *.zip by TWRP (there was no capture+ and quick memo as in the original).
The problem is that when you run an application or browser when pops pop up, I'm not able to click "allow / refuse",
because the application does not react to it!
While in the application is okay and I can get out of it and do it in the app options then in the browser, when the page shows some pop up windows it becomes impossible or terribly annoying.
Another thing is that I can not run the banking application, even though Magisk hides the root.
Is there a way to get around this?
In summary, I have a problem with non-responsive popup windows and root to the banking application for now ..
Regards and I count on your help

Wipe everything. Go to advanced in wipe do not check off microsd and internal storage
Reinstall ROM gapps and SuperSU or migisk
This way u can have a clean and install and not loose your files

I have tried this and it didnt work for me :/
What about banking app?

@up

Tribux said:
Hi.
Recently I unlocked and rooted my G4. There were some problems with him, so I installed a theoretical clean soft from *.zip by TWRP (there was no capture+ and quick memo as in the original).
The problem is that when you run an application or browser when pops pop up, I'm not able to click "allow / refuse",
because the application does not react to it!
While in the application is okay and I can get out of it and do it in the app options then in the browser, when the page shows some pop up windows it becomes impossible or terribly annoying.
Another thing is that I can not run the banking application, even though Magisk hides the root.
Is there a way to get around this?
In summary, I have a problem with non-responsive popup windows and root to the banking application for now ..
Regards and I count on your help
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First and most important: without an info what you flashed you can't expect much help. Is it stock? Is it a custom ROM ? Which one ? What version ? Did you tried a clean install ? This popup window problem sound 99% like an issue with your data partition so do this:
wipe -> FORMAT DATA!! (you will loose all your internal media obviously .. So make a backup of your photos etc before )
wipe -> advanced -> system and cache
Reboot -> recovery
Flash the ROM of your choice
Boot android
This must fix your popup issue. If not try another ROM .
Magisk hide doesn't work properly for me too. It's always a cat & mice game . I found another approach which even let my stubborn banking app load! Check it out : the app is named island : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.island
It creates an island for your apps which are so much hidden that no root detect will work and so let your app load
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@steadfasterX You are genius! Thx so much, my app now is working
I flash stock ROM v29a, but now its ok. The problem was Fluidng and "drawing over apps", I uninstalled that app and now pop up windows working well

@steadfasterX did you use a particular setting or method in the sandbox? My banking app still complains about root.

obvious said:
@steadfasterX did you use a particular setting or method in the sandbox? My banking app still complains about root.
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no but ensure the app is shown in the "island" tab and start the app from there.
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steadfasterX said:
no but ensure the app is shown in the "island" tab and start the app from there.
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Unfortunately it's a no go. Not to worry

obvious said:
Unfortunately it's a no go. Not to worry
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Maybe you have stuff in the island which is related to root ? Remove those if any
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