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Worth it to get apps2sd setup ?

Been debating whether to setup the apps2sd feature on my phone but after searching about it, not really sure if its worth it from what I gather?
is there any benefit from setting this up?
Also, will there be any negative effect if my SD card is partitioned, and I flash a ROM that does not support apps2sd?
Just thinking ahead. don't want to set my phone up for failure once I get ROM crazy (new to android).
Running DC 3.2.3 btw.

You should have at least a class 6 SD card if you're gonna do it. Basically it just frees up internal memory. You probably won't notice a speed difference on a phone this fast. However, it did improve app loading on my G1. Haven't used it on the EVO yet.
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dglowe343 said:
You should have at least a class 6 SD card if you're gonna do it. Basically it just frees up internal memory. You probably won't notice a speed difference on a phone this fast. However, it did improve app loading on my G1. Haven't used it on the EVO yet.
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I've use it on the stock 8gb havent had not one problem also just upgraded to16gb class 2 using now not one problem running damage control 3.2.3 also when I had HTC Touch Pro ran all my apps on SD card no problem just back up your cards on hard drive disc whatever always upload your pictures via flicker dropbox
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[Q] Can you increase the data.img on evo to 1GB data storage?

ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.

11 views and not one answer seriously someone has to know the answer to this and yes i have searched and found nothing

Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.

Hrshycro said:
Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.
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Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?

bokechukwu1 said:
ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
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Obviously you can't increase it its the built in Rom space.
You can use apps to SD (a2sd) on some roms that partitions your card and puts apps on it.

yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android

bokechukwu1 said:
yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android
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that is because on your HD2, the data.img file resides on the memory card, which is likely 8GB or larger, so that increase in size is possible. On the Evo, the data.img is stored on the internal ROM, which has a physical capacity of 512MB, so we have already reached the maximum capacity...

if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.

^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.

hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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330? and how many do you really use.....

Award Tour said:
Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?
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According to google.com/phone you're right.

mherald81 said:
According to google.com/phone you're right.
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Those are the correct specs. They are the same that HTC, Sprint, and now Google have always advertised. 1 GB Rom and 512 MB Ram.
As to the OP, you may be able to change the partitions some, especially if you clean up the system partition, but it would require building a new ROM and flashing it. At least, that's the only way I know of to repartition your NAND.
Oh, and you probably won't recover way too much memory to the data partition. Probably no more than you free in system by removing some unnecessary built in apps like Quickoffice.

fast2049 said:
Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.
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slicksyco00 said:
^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.
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Becasue a class 6 card will be faster then a class 2 or etc.

I know this is an old, dead thread, but if someone is searching and comes across the OP's question, here is the answer.

HTC One X owners how much memory do you have left?

I plan on getting the One X but I'm worriec about the only 25gb internal. A lot of gsmeloft games require at least 1gb of storage. And then I would want some tegra games. And then my normal apps and other games. I don't know if I would have enough storage. But I won't need storage for music because I use google music. I would just want some extra for maybe a couple 700mb AVI movies. Right now I have an HTC Sensation and still only have the 8gb ad card it came with and am making it work. But for my next phone I wanted one with loads of internal storage and a sd card slot.
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iverson3-1 said:
I plan on getting the One X but I'm worriec about the only 25gb internal. A lot of gsmeloft games require at least 1gb of storage. And then I would want some tegra games. And then my normal apps and other games. I don't know if I would have enough storage. But I won't need storage for music because I use google music. I would just want some extra for maybe a couple 700mb AVI movies. Right now I have an HTC Sensation and still only have the 8gb ad card it came with and am making it work. But for my next phone I wanted one with loads of internal storage and a sd card slot.
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Internal still 900 mb left for apps. On SD card still 25,65 GB left. (Keep in mind that this might change if devs can repartition the drive so you can get 5 gb internet and 20 sd for example).
You'll have more then enouf storage! Also movies can be played on Dropbox (25Gb free)

H-Cim said:
Internal still 900 mb left for apps. On SD card still 25,65 GB left. (Keep in mind that this might change if devs can repartition the drive so you can get 5 gb internet and 20 sd for example).
You'll have more then enouf storage! Also movies can be played on Dropbox (25Gb free)
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I have 5 videos uploaded on my dropbox and when I try to play them it says this video cannot be played?
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How much ram?
Hi! I'm new here at xda..anyway..I'm planning to buy the htc one x..anyway..my question is..
1)-the device have 1gb of ram right? so does it give you a full 1gb ram? or 512 only?
2) any interesting feature that this phone have?
thanks for all your help! r:fingers-crossed:

I'm almost out
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I don't have an issue. about 3-4gb clockwork mod backups, 2.5 gb titanium backups(both of which I can transfer to my pc). Don't have 20gb of music though...got an iPod for that.

sinkster said:
I don't have an issue. about 3-4gb clockwork mod backups, 2.5 gb titanium backups(both of which I can transfer to my pc). Don't have 20gb of music though...got an iPod for that.
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sadly i have an ipod 3 gen and the play music quality is so bad compared to my hox.
i have an ever growing collection of music
@op if you're not using your phone like i am for music then you should be fine.
i dont play games or take pictures as i have a DSLR for that so i just filled mine with music

lol agree with the music quality. Posts like this make me wonder what I really use my phone for. Over half the used storage is mods, roms, backups, and suchlike.

I came from a sensation with a 32gb card in it. So far I have not run out. Installed loads of games and got cm backups etc. I do find I have to be careful with the amount of music and def only ever have one or two movies on it. I take a lot of photos and video which would kill it if I didn't upload to Dropbox.
Upshot 32gb is manageable but 64gb would be comfortable. Dam them for removing the SD expansion from their phones!
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GeekaPhone said:
Hi! I'm new here at xda..anyway..I'm planning to buy the htc one x..anyway..my question is..
1)-the device have 1gb of ram right? so does it give you a full 1gb ram? or 512 only?
2) any interesting feature that this phone have?
thanks for all your help! r:fingers-crossed:
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Hello fellow mate...
1- yes it has 1.0 gb of ram. Mine is always 860-900 mb ( see pic, this is after clearing ram there was a corrupted app. )
2-sense is the number one feature that made sell my s3 and buy this. TW is ugly, but sense is beautifull and has tons of personalizations..
Good luck with this phone
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About to pull the trigger and buy a Note 2

Hi all,
I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a Note 2. I want to get the Titanium Grey one as I already have a White S2 so it's not worth getting white again. I was looking forward to getting the 32GB version, in my country we got a some units of the 32GB in white and now they're out of stock, and I guess we won't be getting 32GB anytime soon so I've decided on the 16GB coz I got fed up of waiting.
What I want to make sure of is, does swapping partitions of the internal sd with the external sd card really work with some script or with roms that have init.d enabled, can't remember exactly. I've seen a few tutorials and it does seem to work perfectly with lots of users. I'm planning on getting the famous 64GB Sandisk SDXC card. Also does the phone's speed get affected if I load the memory card with lets say 40GB or more of stuff in it??
Please make me comfortable enough to make my purchase
Thanks

I am currently using the extsd2internalsd mod (look it up int the Android Development section) and what it does is place the app's caches and other files on the sd card instead of the phone (ex. The 1GB file of Asphalt goes to the sd card ehile the small main app remains on the phone). So far this method has worked perfectly for me (internal memory has barely been used) so it's worth giving it a try
Regarding slow downs, on previous devices (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7) when the internal memory starts to fill up I could notice the device getting slower however I don't think this will happen on an SD card (I have 5GB remaining on my 32GB sd card and so far I had no slow downs)
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Thank you for the reply modstorm...that's good to know.
Looking forward to more replies
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Depends on files used. Also, you might notice slowdowns when you get to around 10% of your memory's capacity. For instance, the 64gb formatted is ~60gb and when you start getting below ~10gb it might slow down.
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@rbiter said:
Depends on files used. Also, you might notice slowdowns when you get to around 10% of your memory's capacity. For instance, the 64gb formatted is ~60gb and when you start getting below ~10gb it might slow down.
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Yeah I'm aware of that...I know that the 16gb is formatted as 10.6Gb something around that.
God...im so confused :S
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Yeah the note2 I believe internal memory was 10.7 available out of the box and 14.7 total. What did Samsung put on here to take up 4gb. I think stock android is about 2gb.
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I usually dont fill up my phone with lots of images and videos...only apps and a few games that's. But the games such as Gameloft games do take a large amount of space..but I guess there is a workaround to this using GL to Sd or directory bind..is that correct??
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ehab78 said:
Hi all,
I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a Note 2. I want to get the Titanium Grey one as I already have a White S2 so it's not worth getting white again. I was looking forward to getting the 32GB version, in my country we got a some units of the 32GB in white and now they're out of stock, and I guess we won't be getting 32GB anytime soon so I've decided on the 16GB coz I got fed up of waiting.
What I want to make sure of is, does swapping partitions of the internal sd with the external sd card really work with some script or with roms that have init.d enabled, can't remember exactly. I've seen a few tutorials and it does seem to work perfectly with lots of users. I'm planning on getting the famous 64GB Sandisk SDXC card. Also does the phone's speed get affected if I load the memory card with lets say 40GB or more of stuff in it??
Please make me comfortable enough to make my purchase
Thanks
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Welcome~
I personally use directory bind. It is extremely simple to use and works great on the Note 2. Basically, puts the data of big apps to your externam sd card. All my big games are on my external now. Games like NFS Most Wanted, Modern Combat. I always have over 7 gigs in my internal. Currently have used about 30 Gigs on my external due to a lot of videos ^_^ Here's the link to Directory Bind Download the latest version "O" (It goes in alphabetical order)

boodies said:
Welcome~
I personally use directory bind. It is extremely simple to use and works great on the Note 2. Basically, puts the data of big apps to your externam sd card. All my big games are on my external now. Games like NFS Most Wanted, Modern Combat. I always have over 7 gigs in my internal. Currently have used about 30 Gigs on my external due to a lot of videos ^_^ Here's the link to Directory Bind Download the latest version "O" (It goes in alphabetical order)
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Great thanks for the info and the link to directory bind.
How do the games run when stored on the external sd card...is there any noticable lag or frame rate issues??
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ehab78 said:
Great thanks for the info and the link to directory bind.
How do the games run when stored on the external sd card...is there any noticable lag or frame rate issues??
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Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)

boodies said:
Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)
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Awesome...good to know that, and thanks for the tip buddy
I'll still wait for more replies before I purchase it...I wanna be 100% confident I won't run into problems.
Still nobody answered me with regards to swapping partitions...does it really work??

Bump

boodies said:
Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)
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Wish i had read this little gem of information about 10minutes ago. Cheers.

bungknees said:
Wish i had read this little gem of information about 10minutes ago. Cheers.
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Lol....why 10 mins ago?
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ehab78 said:
Lol....why 10 mins ago?
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Because I had just finished setting up directory bind, but manually typed in the paths. Knowing about the long press would have saved me quite a bit of time.

bungknees said:
Because I had just finished setting up directory bind, but manually typed in the paths. Knowing about the long press would have saved me quite a bit of time.
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Aha I see

Finally got my Titanium Grey Note 2...it looks gorgeous !!! Will hunt for custom roms while im at work tomorrow morning
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Dude, i've paid a hand and a leg for this phone and i'd do it again!
It's impressed me with it's performance, battery life and awesomeness!
The screen is the best AMOLED to date and I have to say, i've seen a few!
Do it, there surely be workarounds for the memory pretty fast!
Later Edit: I see you finally did it, GOOD JOB!
I too, have the Titanium Grey, don't like white phones for some reason...

Magnumutz said:
Dude, i've paid a hand and a leg for this phone and i'd do it again!
It's impressed me with it's performance, battery life and awesomeness!
The screen is the best AMOLED to date and I have to say, i've seen a few!
Do it, there surely be workarounds for the memory pretty fast!
Later Edit: I see you finally did it, GOOD JOB!
I too, have the Titanium Grey, don't like white phones for some reason...
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Thank you Magnumtz...i'm very proud to have made the purchase
I've looked into the extsd2internalSD v5.5 mod in the android development section, and it seems great.
Right now i'm downloading several custom roms so that I can try them when i'm at work, I still have to go to my carrier to get a Micro sim card and will look for a Sandisk 64GB class 10 memory card.
Thanks again bro

"lighter" roms - any possibility?

As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
Cheers for any feedback

tomorio said:
As the title says is there any chance a very light rom could be developed? I'm still fresh with HTC but I notice that the system software etc takes up a hell of a lot of the "available" storage. I wish they wouldn't advertise phones as having X internal memory when half of it is actually needed for the whole system itself.
I'm still used to my old galaxy s4 where some light roms only took up a few GB's of the internal memory.
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I could be wrong, but I think that's due to partitioning and not necessarily having a "heavy" rom.

Well between 12-15 GB is a lot to lose from a phone advertised as 32GB memory lol. I understand that a certain amount will ALWAYS be set aside for the system itself, just seems like a huge chunk.
It's just a shame that there aren't any options for reducing this by much. Or if it's even possible. Perhaps I'm just used to teeny tiny rims with my galaxy lol.

There are no Light Roms that I've seen for the M9.
The only thing I could say is install LeeDroids ROM and in aroma check mark all the apps that you don't want installed..
Buy again not really the answer to your question..
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You'll have a light ROM in cm12. Once its been fixed. In regards to sense, the vast majority of the ROM can be removed using titanium or during install using aroma. Sense has always been quite chunky, unfortunately there's no real way around that, a desensed ROM has been available for pretty much every HTC phone I've ever had so I guess it probably won't be too long before one becomes available for the m9 too.
As for the amount of storage available, no disrespect but its a 32GB phone with external storage as an option! Why would you need an extra GB? As opposed to the s4 you will have more memory even when you've fully loaded your ROM with apps.

I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.

iElvis said:
I think the system bloat would be a huge issue except for the external sdcard. With it, it's close to a non-issue.
I have a 32GB external card. I keep my music, twrp and tibu backups, and photos on the external card and leave internal storage for system, apps, and roms. Works just fine.
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Pretty much the same for me, I have the Samsung evo 64gb with 8 gb music and a couple small movies and TV shows and it's only half full.
While the phones storage has over 14gb free
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I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms

tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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tomorio said:
I have a 32GB class 10 SanDisk ultra card external SD. Even with that and even with usually about 14GB free in the internal memory, I still cry wait to use a rom without half as much space for the system
Anyway thanks for the help guys.
Obviously the main issue is a backup takes up between 9-12 GB so once I have two roms backed up on my external SD then I'm well over half way full . I like several backups, all different roms
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Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.

clsA said:
The phone supports up to a 200gb ex_SD card. The 64gb are the most affordable for the size. Many here use a 128gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...d&rh=i:computers&sprefix=200+gb+micro+sd+card
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If it's confirmed to support up to 200GB I know what my next purchase is

jollywhitefoot said:
Why are your backups so big? Mine are just over 6 GB.
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System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.

tomorio said:
System around 4-6 and data round 4-6 GB's. I like to be able to pick up where I left off.
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Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.

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Are you backing up system or system image? In normal backups you don't need to backup system image, you just need system, data and boot. My system backup is under 2 GB.
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No system image no.

My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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iElvis said:
My backups are about 10-11 gb. I do have a lot of apps installed. I'm sure that's part of it. 2 gb alone are probably accounted for by Real Racing and Asphalt 8.
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Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?

jollywhitefoot said:
Good to know. I figured user apps would be in the data portion of the backup and not system, though. How big is your system backup file?
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I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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iElvis said:
I think about 2gb. Most is definitely data.
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Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.

jollywhitefoot said:
Ok. Yeah that's how mine is. I don't understand why @tomorio would have 4-6 GB for system which makes me wonder if there's something screwy with his install.
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No idea. Just double-checked my latest. System is just under 2 GB, data is about 8 GB.