[Q] Some advice on 2.2 to 2.1 downgrade please :) - Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I love this forum as it's got so much useful info so have just joined as I'm a little unsure of a few things and would really appreciate any help/advice.
Firstly, the big question, can I downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1 on a T-Mobile UK branded device without risking losing the warranty (only got the phone in March - just in case any hardware defects as I had the camera break a month after I got the phone!). I have read numerous guides and they seem to be associated with rooting and what confuses me is the stock roms I'm finding are for 1.14 not 2.1?
The reason is because (there may be an answer to this somewhere but have searched loads and can't find it) the Webkit browser on 2.2 seems to constantly crash. I didn't have the issue on 2.1 and have had the phone repaired twice, the issue occurs straight after a factory reset and is definitely an issue with 2.2 on T-Mobile UK branded firmware at least. T-Mobile UK assured me it was fixed but it certainly isn't as it crashed twice (just disappeared) within 5 minutes of browsing and later in the evening came up with the 'force close' error when browsing.
I loved using the stock provided browser over Opera/Skyfire etc and it was fine on 2.1...
So I am wondering whether T-Mobile UK have just bodged the firmware and whether rooting/debranding would give me a very stable version of webkit?
I had this with my first Wildfire after upgrading in December 2010, after two repairs they couldn't fix it so swapped for a new phone in March. The new phone was fine on 2.1 and this issue occurred again straight after the OTA update of 2.2 last night.
I'm really hoping someone can help with the above?
Many thanks in advance

1.14 is the ROM version number, and, is actually Android 2.1. But, you will not be able to downgrade without root. (Atleast easily).
If you wish to take the complex way out to downgrading to 2.1 without rooting and stuff, you can refer this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921752

Excellent, many thanks 3xeno. I'll have a go at that. I am tempted to try unbranded 2.2 firmware as by the sounds of it the browser crashing issue might be specific to T-Mobile UK. I can't find other people reporting this issue anywhere and its happened to me with two phones, after 2 repairs with ota updates twice and after multiple factory resets.
Do you use webkit and get any crashes at all? I've tried other browsers but prefer the webkit one when it works, would be great if it played flash content like YouTube etc but I'll do some more research on that...

try dolphin browser HD(has many add-on's) or opera Mobile ,these are the best in the line & opera min for more data saving efficiency

Thanks all, I am having a lot of trouble with the SuperOneClick part though.
I have S-ON on boot and the boot loader that ends in 001 does that affect the ability of SuperOneClick to do Temp Root?
All I get is:
Killing ADB Server...
* server not running *
OK
Starting ADB Server...
* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
OK
Waiting for device...
OK
Pushing rageagainstthecage...
cannot stat 'C:\Documents and Settings\Marty\Desktop\HTC Downgrade\SuperOneClickv1.5.5\rageagainstthecage': No such file or directory
OK
chmod rageagainstthecage...
Unable to chmod /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage: No such file or directory
OK
Running rageagainstthecage...
It just says the last part for ages and never seems to go any further...
Do I need to do S-OFF using Unrevoke or similar?

It shouldn't, since the procedure was performed on an official Froyo release on HBoot 1.01.0001. BTW, You have to press 'Shell Root', not 'Temp Root'. Further make sure USB Debugging and all is on, as the author states.

Hi 3xeno,
I can confirm debugging is on and it is Shell Root I am trying but it just seems to stick on that last stage for ages.
I have the goldcard in, does that matter?
I have also tried unmounting the SD Card as mentioned on another thread?

It shouldn't matter. But, I think this should help you out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16634853&postcount=139
If you check the 2 posts above it, the user was experiencing similar problems as yours. So, I believe that solution should help.
(That guide is to downgrade to a WWE (Non Branded ROM) with HBoot 1.01.0001, and the 1st step is essentially the same as what you are attempting to do - Downgrade Misc Partition and flash an 'older' ROM)
Good Luck

Thanks 3xeno, I ended up doing the revolutionary thing in those steps and it says S-OFF now with Revolutionary at the top.
I was then able to use a stock RUU and install 2.1 on the phone but it looks different in that the clock widget and icons on the main screen weren't there? It's supposed to be the T-Mobile UK v2.1 firmware I thought?
I thought I might as well use unrEVOKed to root it anyway but I wondered if it was possible to revert it back to the way it was using the factory RUU if I needed any warranty repairs? Would reverting back then change the bootloader screen or is that permanently changed by Revolutionary?

martyp78 said:
Thanks 3xeno, I ended up doing the revolutionary thing in those steps and it says S-OFF now with Revolutionary at the top.
I was then able to use a stock RUU and install 2.1 on the phone but it looks different in that the clock widget and icons on the main screen weren't there? It's supposed to be the T-Mobile UK v2.1 firmware I thought?
I thought I might as well use unrEVOKed to root it anyway but I wondered if it was possible to revert it back to the way it was using the factory RUU if I needed any warranty repairs? Would reverting back then change the bootloader screen or is that permanently changed by Revolutionary?
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Revolutionary introduces a new userspace issue. It can be fixed by flashing this (Needs Clockworkmod, I hope you had selected Yes to installing Clockworkmod to Revolutionary) -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
To change your bootloader from the Revolutionary one, you will need the HBoot.nb0 file from your TMobile Eclair RUU. Once you obtain that, you will need to follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
So, essentially, once you perform this, you are back to factory stock, on a T-Mobile 2.1 ROM. (Essentially summing up my first post, its far easier to root and downgrade. )
Oh, and dont touch Unrevoked. Its not needed at all.

Many thanks 3xeno, really appreciate your help and such quick responses
I actually ended up with root (I think) as the super user icon is in there and I was able to do a nandroid backup on bootup.
Nice to be back to 2.1 though, I might leave it how it is at the moment and keep this info in mind to revert if needed for a warranty claim (fingers crossed it won't be a screen fault!).
One thing I'm really pleased about so far is that it doesn't seem to sync up immediately with my google account and fill my people list with a load of random e-mail addresses which is something I didn't like before.
So far so good, I'll have some fun playing with root now...
Thanks again

Cheers mate.
BTW, You can go to People > Menu Key > View > Check 'Only show Contacts with Phone Numbers'. It may not have synced immediately, but, it will, sooner or later.
EDIT: Did you flash the Sense Fix? If not, then, HTC Setup Wizard (The startup guide which greets you first thing when you boot up after a factory reset) will not work, implying that your Google Account is not setup on the phone. (Or, you'll have to do it manually.) Probably, that's why, its not syncing.

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[Q] Confused :( 3 UK Desire with 1.22.771.1

Hello All,
I am used to flashing my HTC Touch Pro 2 and other windows mobile devices, but i have just moved onto a desire and am having a nightmare.
I bought the Desire on PAYG from 3 in the UK as they were up to a point supplying unbranded phones, but just my luck I had to have one from the new batch which is branded and cost me £18 to get an unlock code to use the phone on T-Mobile.
So as I stand I have an Sim Unlocked Desire thats branded to 3 UK.
The Rom version is 1.22.771.1 and Hboot 0.80 which I believe is an issue with rooting so that I can use other Roms.
To be honest I am quite happy with 1.22.771.1, but have a strange issue that on some occassions when someone calls me the ringtone starts, but then cuts out and there is no further sound, although they are still calling and I can answer the call.
So I really want to root and then switch roms.
I have read and read and read, and I believe my best chance is unrevoked, as I have seen a couple of posts which say it works with 1.22.771.1, can anyone confirm this?
Also if I flash to a custom rooted Froyo 2.2 rom, will I still be able to return to 1.2x roms should I not like it? As I have also read that unrevoked, does not work with 2.2, or is this just if you use the OTA roms?
If anyone out there can give me a do this 123 guide to get myself sorted I would really apparciate it.
Thanks
Stephen.
Hi
The issue with the ring tone is due to a setting,
Setting > sound > quiet on pick up
In check this option
sent from my C64
SeArch for a guide, its easy.
But you can return to any Rom you like, as long as your rooted.
I mention this due to if download the new ota you will lose root, and I don't think a method has been found to root the new 2.2 Rom yet.
sent from my C64
Sorry on my desire, but if you install a 2.2 Rom from xda you won't lose root.
But if download via ota and install you will lose root.
sent from my C64
So are you confirming I can root 1.22.771.1 with unevoked? Then install a rooted 2.2 rom?
Regards the Setting > sound > quiet on pick up should that be on or off? to cure the sound issue as i have that set as off.
thanks stephen.
can anyone confirm, so i can have a go at sorting this today please
CyberActive said:
can anyone confirm, so i can have a go at sorting this today please
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I can confirm that you can't, and I wouldn't recommend that you try. The clockwork recovery image that unrevoked uses never loads, so the phone can't be updated in any way.
What I tried was slightly more extreme. I attempted to downgrade the HBOOT version, so I could flash a lower version generic RUU ROM. Unfortunately, whilst this worked as far as I can tell, the screen simply stopped working. I could actually receive phone calls, but nothing would come up on the screen.
The bad news is that even after flashing back to the original Three RUU ROM, the screen remained blank. The good news for me is that I'm due to get a replacement phone under warranty.
Personally, I can't even tell if this is a software issue or a hardware issue unique to me (I think it might be hardware as I should at least be able to boot into the bootloader), although this time I'll wait for Three to push the update, as I'm not prepared to take the risk of not being able to use my phone again.
CyberActive said:
can anyone confirm, so i can have a go at sorting this today please
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I had Hboot 0.80 on my Desire with 1.21.405.2 and I used the Unrevocked3 method to root. But mine was unbranded from Three.
I now have 2.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775) with 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 Radio.
All works great.

[Q] 2.2 OTA update issues

Hi guys,
I have a Desire I bought unlocked on eBay. Though initially thinking it was factory unlocked, and having bought it under that pretense, I now think it's been unlocked by some other means. It doesn't appear to be rooted, having no superuser app but I'm not sure how else it could have been unlocked? If any one can shed some light here, that would be great.
I received the OTA update tonight, and after downloading and resetting it simply wouldn't get past 90% on the install before resetting itself. After about 15 minutes I switched it off and switched it on again, and it booted into my homescreen, with a "loading" alert and a rotating circle, no percentage.
Eventually that stopped, and it looked like everything was ok. I checked the version and it said I was running 2.2. Awesome, so I go about my business and realise I have no 3G or wireless connections. I check the settings and under WiFi it says "error", and I can't enable it. My APN is gone too. I can get that online, but it seems like there's an issue with the radio so I haven't bothered. It doesn't connect to the network anyway. It also resets occasionally, it seems when it has to load SenseUI but I can't confirm this.
What could it be? I'm not sure where the phone came from. It's a Black a8181 model with the Orange case branding, but the OS is unbranded. The locale is English (Singapore/Taiwan/a few others), though I thought the Black model was only in the UK. I'm in Australia, on vodafoneAU.
Is there anything I can do?
Cheers guys, I really hope I haven't (basically) bricked it.
Firstly, removing the SIM lock from the phone has nothing to do with rooting. Usually, you just stick in an "incorrect" SIM, and it will ask for an unlock code which you can buy online.
Given that the OTA update was a patch, it sounds to me like you have a partially patched ROM and this is causing your problems.
However, since it basically boots up and works to a fashion, it isn't bricked and chances are it is fairly easily recovered.
IMHO, you have two options.
1. Install a 2.1 RUU to downgrade your phone.
2. Root the phone using UnreEVOked and load a custom 2.2 ROM.
Both of these should be quite easily so long as your previous attempt to upgrade hasn't already updated HBOOT.
Turn you phone off and then power on again whilst holding down the volume down button - your phone should boot into HBOOT.
Look for the HBOOT version on the second line and post back what it says here.
Regards,
Dave
You've received a branded phone that has been debranded (you should have been told this) - you can't upgrade these without a goldcard. What's happened is part of the upgrade has worked, but other parts failed.
To recover you'll need a goldcard, which will be more difficult to make with the phone rebooting all the time.
teppic74 said:
To recover you'll need a goldcard, which will be more difficult to make with the phone rebooting all the time.
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If the OP can get UnrEVOked running, and doesn't mind having a custom recovery image (good thing!), he/she shouldn't need a goldcard.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If the OP can get UnrEVOked running, and doesn't mind having a custom recovery image (good thing!), he/she shouldn't need a goldcard.
Regards,
Dave
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That's true, though it does mean going down the custom ROM route, which might not be wanted.
Thanks guys, that's really good info.
I'm not too concerned about running custom ROMs, I've been thinking about doing it for a while, just don't know enough about how to root and flash. There are some good guides here, I'm just a bit nervous about doing it. I also don't know what the best ROM would be. I'm really just after a factory standard Desire with Sense ROM, the most out of the box it could be.
I assume an RUU is like a rollback? In which case, what would I be rolling back to. I have no idea how it was debranded, so I don't know what ROM I'd need to roll back to.
As for the goldcard, what would that do? Is that rolling back, or fixing what I have now? It doesn't crash too often, I can probably baby it through.
Sorry for the questions guys, just want to know my options. I didn't think it was too badly bricked, but you never know. I bricked my XDA Mini II trying to flash a new ROM, so you can see my hesitation :/
An RUU is an official way to flash the phone with HTC's own software. That is how the phone was debranded in the first place, and you can do the same to get it back to normal. It does require a goldcard though, which is a minor software patch on the sdcard.
If you root and install a custom ROM (and update the radio) you'll have a working phone again, and you can make a goldcard in your own time.
If I go with an RUU, will OTA updates work? That's really the only thing I'd miss about a custom ROM, the convenience of OTA.
foxmeister said:
Look for the HBOOT version on the second line and post back what it says here.
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Hboot - 0.80.0000
papalazarou said:
If I go with an RUU, will OTA updates work? That's really the only thing I'd miss about a custom ROM, the convenience of OTA.
Hboot - 0.80.0000
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You'll get ota updates if you use an ruu. Just make sure you have your goldcard in when you apply them.
teppic74 said:
You'll get ota updates if you use an ruu. Just make sure you have your goldcard in when you apply them.
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Cool, will the process in the link in your sig do the trick? And the goldcard, will I need to keep it in permanently, or only when updating? Trying to decide if I should use a dedicated card for it, or include it on the card I keep in there.
Thanks for the help, I'll run the RUU tomorrow morning.
I'm trying to run unrevoked to root and reflash it, but it get's to a point and fails, saying "failed to flash recovery image".
Any thoughts?
EDIT:
I've now created a goldcard and am trying the downgrade process in the link in your sig. I've followed all the instructions, but when I ran the downgrade util, after asking for my password, nothing happens.
papalazarou said:
I'm trying to run unrevoked to root and reflash it, but it get's to a point and fails, saying "failed to flash recovery image".
Any thoughts?
EDIT:
I've now created a goldcard and am trying the downgrade process in the link in your sig. I've followed all the instructions, but when I ran the downgrade util, after asking for my password, nothing happens.
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Yeah, that's my fault for leaving a testing point in the Mac/Linux version of the utility. It was mentioned in the bugs section, but probably not made clear enough. It's fixed now.

[Q] Unrooting a Desire completely to stock for warranty repair

Hi,
I'm at my wits end.
I've spent ages (most of last night and all of this morning !) looking through google and This forum, XDA developers etc etc etc and I'm no further forward
I have/had (not sure where I am at the moment.. will explain in a minute) a rooted Desire on FroYo. then my Desire started the overheating problem and randomly rebooting every 3 to 5 minutes. The only way I can keep it running long enough to do anything is to use an ice pack and chill the phone !
Anyway I tried to do a roll-back and lose root access etc and return my desire (UK Vodafone) to stock so I can send it in for a repair.
I initially used my nandroid backup to roll back to the previous version of my software, then I re did the official OTA to 2.2 and it SEEMED to work.. except I still seemed to have root access.. I certainly had the Superuser application in my applications list.
Apparently to delete superuser (or is it Superuser with capital S? I seem to have both?!) You need root (figures!) so.. ran unrevoked again, seemed to unroot again but :-
(a) try as I must i can't uninstall Superuser.apk. Tried using root manager, terminal and adb but I keep getting errors saying something about read write permissions?
(b) I have also read that I may need to restore the official Android recovery (have clockwork mod recovery at the moment) that needs to go too.
I just want to return my Desire back to store/factory.. but I can't seem to do this.
I'm feeling thick as cold mince at the moment.. Seems the process differs depending on different HBOOT versions/ device versions / root methods / day of week / alignment of the planets !!!
can anyone PLEASE help with an idiot (and boy do I mean IDIOT) proof guide to get rid of all traces of my naughtiness and back to a warranty friendly 2.2 Desire??
I think the simplest way is to use the windows-based RUU update files from shipped-roms.com as they'll replace your recovery with a stock one and unroot your phone (sends it completely back to stock vodafone).
The only vodafone UK one i see on there is..
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126338_signed.exe
There are a couple of caveats:
1) you may need to downgrade your hboot before the RUU will sucessfully flash the phone. There's a bunch of threads in the developer forum on how to downgrade hboot, depends on your screen type, which leads to...
2) this is kind of important, is your screen SLCD or AMOLED? The vodafone uk RUU is dated mid-june, so it will almost certainly only work on AMOLED desires. If you got the phone before mid-july it's definitely AMOLED but if you're unsure there are threads about how to check (i think the easiest way is to pull up a dark screen such as the settings menu in a darkened room and see if the black areas of the screen are true black or just very dark grey like on an LCD pc monitor).
Providing your phone is AMOLED, once you've installed that RUU you can use the OTA upgrade in the about phone menu to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
please report back if you have got rid of Superuser that way because i have the same problem
i formatted my sd card and then updated OTA2.2 and for some reason i still have Superuser and i plan on returning to warranty for camera problems
supriz said:
please report back if you have got rid of Superuser that way because i have the same problem
i formatted my sd card and then updated OTA2.2 and for some reason i still have Superuser and i plan on returning to warranty for camera problems
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Thats because the OTA (in contrast to a RUU) does not install a completely fresh image of the /system partition (where the root files normally are installed) but just replace/patch most of the existing files. Other files, like su will stay untouched.
You also won't be able to just remove those files as you are obviously s-on, which means even root can't write to system easily.
Some options for you are:
- find a RUU that fits your device and install it (there will be lots of instructions for flashing around) €: Watch out if you have an SLCD!!! Can't state that often enough...
- S-off your device, remove all root files from /system, flash the original recovery/splash/hboot via fastboot (this might help)
i had the same problem, i solved it by flashing a RUU then rerooted. i am fine now
unrooting the original stock rom
Hi guys, I have a similar problem. I rooted my desire with unrevocked 3.21 and everything was fine.
BUT I havent flashed any new rom, I still have the original rom, I was only interested in rooting.
Now I need to sell my phone so I want to restore factory settings.
Can I do it with just doing a "factory reset" or I need to flash using the RUU....exe?
thanks for your support!
Just to be safe use the ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] A few questions before rooting

Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!
1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting
Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
EddyOS said:
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
EddyOS said:
there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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and yet I
EddyOS said:
will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card
EddyOS said:
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.
There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now
Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
**edit**
Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted
Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through
GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here
What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.
1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there
kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181

Can anyone help me put original ROM back on my DHD

Hi, and thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
I have a desire hd phone, witch I love anyways I had it rooted a few months ago by a local phone shop, but I didn’t really see the benefit from it, in fact it caused problems so I performed a full factory reset within a few days, and thought that was the end of it.
Anyways my phone received the option to update to the 2.3 gingerbread on Monday, it downloads fine, and then when the install starts it freezes at about 20% of the way thorough.
I have contacted HTC several times about it, they say the phone will not update if it’s been rooted and I have to send it back to them to have it re-flashed, one person said it would cost £30, another said £200 so I would rather not send it to them. the last guy I spoke to was very helpful, he said it was possible for me to reflash the phone to its original ''shipped'' state, and if I joined a help forum I could possibly get some help, but he was unable to advise me on this., so here I am!!!
I received the phone new in January and it has had no updates until the one on Moday, and it was rooted using visionary a few months ago, I have performed several factory restores since then.
Current software is:
android version 2.2
baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_m
build number 1.37.771.3 CL290190
software number 1.37.771.3
im in the uk, and on the 3 network
Many thanks,
Jamie
Jamie.Desire.HD said:
Hi, and thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
I have a desire hd phone, witch I love anyways I had it rooted a few months ago by a local phone shop, but I didn’t really see the benefit from it, in fact it caused problems so I performed a full factory reset within a few days, and thought that was the end of it.
Anyways my phone received the option to update to the 2.3 gingerbread on Monday, it downloads fine, and then when the install starts it freezes at about 20% of the way thorough.
I have contacted HTC several times about it, they say the phone will not update if it’s been rooted and I have to send it back to them to have it re-flashed, one person said it would cost £30, another said £200 so I would rather not send it to them. the last guy I spoke to was very helpful, he said it was possible for me to reflash the phone to its original ''shipped'' state, and if I joined a help forum I could possibly get some help, but he was unable to advise me on this., so here I am!!!
I received the phone new in January and it has had no updates until the one on Moday, and it was rooted using visionary a few months ago, I have performed several factory restores since then.
Current software is:
android version 2.2
baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_m
build number 1.37.771.3 CL290190
software number 1.37.771.3
im in the uk, and on the 3 network
Many thanks,
Jamie
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Hey dude, this link should help. I'm currently downloading it so that I can help you further when you get it also.
I would think twice about reverting everything back to stock though. You are now in the right place, the shop you went to, to get your phone rooted was the wrong place! We are a friendly bunch for the most part so do some reading in the desire HD general section and you'll find some nice ROMs that are close to stock firmware but perform better. If they're not for you then feel free to flash the official ROM from your provider that I have linked to above.
Oh yeah, Welcome to XDA!
Thanks for that, How do i go about installing it, and will it completely revert the phone back to its original state so i can use the ota update and get the 2.3 gingerbread?
And thanks again for your help
Damnit, what I've linked to is actually someones backup of a stock 3 ROM so it won't be quite back to factory fresh. Let me do some digging, I'll be back.
EDIT: What exactly did the shop do, other than use visionary? You could try AMT tools from here and query the device info, that should at least let us know what they have and haven't done to the phone. I suspect that they have set a super CID hence why the update won't go through. Try AMT and report back.
Thankyou very much your help is appreciated.
Should i try the link you posted earlier??
Just use AMT tools that I linked to above in one of my edits and check the CID, If it is just the CID that has been altered, then you can use this tool to reflash a 3UK CID which is H3G__001
when i use AMT it says AMT is designed for use with Desire HD and Dsire z / G2 ONLY But i have a desire HD ????
Strange, is there an option to click OK or ignore?
EDIT: Weird, I just booted into windows and I get the same thing with AMT tools. Now I'm really confused. Try using the other tool that I linked to and see what that displays.
EDIT 2: Just had a thought. Pull your battery then put it back in. Hold 'down' on the volume rocker then press the power button. Your phone should start in the bootloader and we should be able to get some more info. Once you've done this, list everything that it says in the bootloader screen.
Sorry, my brain is a bit slow today for some reason.
Ok ill do that now, i have also just rooted my phone again using visionary (i followed the link in your earlier message. so its rooted again now. cant believe i paid £20-00 to have that done, it took me less than 5 minutes to do it
ace pvt ship s-on
hboot-0.85.0007
microp-0438
radio-26.03.02.26_m
emmc-boot
oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
Jamie.Desire.HD said:
ace pvt ship s-on
hboot-0.85.0007
microp-0438
radio-26.03.02.26_m
emmc-boot
oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
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OK, so it would seem as though all they did was root it and leave most things intact, I think they must have changed your CID though probably using the jkoljo's radio S-OFF tool.
Run that tool and try to change your CID to whatever it was that I said before H3G__001 I think it was, or you could equally use that tool to get radio s-off super-CID and sim-unlock, then install ROM manager from the market, flash Clockwork Mod Recovery and then flash a custom ROM after making a backup of course.
The world is your lobster at this point and flashing new ROMs can be fun. I might have to re-flash my current ROM myself as I think I've screwed something up with it from messing around too much earlier today
i dont understand the open "Desire HD easy radio tool.exe'' where is that??
Please remember i am a complete noob when it comes to this, lol
i had to download the visionary app using my phone as my laptop kept saying it had a virus.
i have downloaded the premium rom manager app, can you recomend and good roms, or where i can get a list of them? also could you explain in noob terms how to change my phone so i can get the 2.3 update? the cid bit!!!
Thank you, you have been very helpfull.
Jamie.Desire.HD said:
i dont understand the open "Desire HD easy radio tool.exe'' where is that??
Please remember i am a complete noob when it comes to this, lol
i had to download the visionary app using my phone as my laptop kept saying it had a virus.
i have downloaded the premium rom manager app, can you recomend and good roms, or where i can get a list of them? also could you explain in noob terms how to change my phone so i can get the 2.3 update? the cid bit!!!
Thank you, you have been very helpfull.
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I'm gonna point you to this thread as it has everything you could possibly want or need to know in it. There is a link there to a thread all about how to flash a ROM, what tools you need on your PC etc..
With regards to how to get 2.3 onto your phone pretty much every ROM you'll find in the DEV section is based on 2.3. That thread I've linked also has links to pretty much every ROM currently available for the DHD and everything is explained far better than I would be able to explain things.
The tool to get Super-CID, which really only helps when it comes to flashing Radio's (which is something I would avoid until you've found your feet a little, however it's worth doing now, as it is simple and relatively worry free) is at the bottom of this post.
Happy reading and just remember that as long as you read all the instructions for something before starting it and you feel comfortable with what the instructions are explaining, then you will succeed with your end goal.
The tool to get Super-CID, which really only helps when it comes to flashing Radio's (which is something I would avoid until you've found your feet a little, however it's worth doing now, as it is simple and relatively worry free) is at the bottom of this post.
I have downloaded this, but i have no idea how to use it! i extracted the files to my desktop, it has a few different applications in there, one says start here but when i open it a command prompt comes up on my pc screen, i dont know where to go from there
Jamie.Desire.HD said:
The tool to get Super-CID, which really only helps when it comes to flashing Radio's (which is something I would avoid until you've found your feet a little, however it's worth doing now, as it is simple and relatively worry free) is at the bottom of this post.
I have downloaded this, but i have no idea how to use it! i extracted the files to my desktop, it has a few different applications in there, one says start here but when i open it a command prompt comes up on my pc screen, i dont know where to go from there
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You should extract them into one folder, then from there you should be able to double click the only thing that looks like a program icon. If nothing is happening it would suggest that you need to update your .NET framework. Do that by running windows update or going here.
Honestly....... the best thing to do would be to go here and read the basic setup bit so that your PC is ready for everything, and then read the rest of that little guide and it should hold your hand through the whole process.
im going to attempt a custom rom form the link you gave me (everything desire hd) do you have any recomendations??
Cyanogenmod is interesting as it more like stock Android, MIUI is similar to iOS and then you have the sense ROMs with tweaks and whatnot. Have a look at the options available in the screenshots and see what you like the look of, it's a very subjective thing as some like one thing and others like something else.
the link you gave me for the rado code was missing the important bit!
i managed to find it somewhere else
http://igyaan.in/2011/01/how-to-root-htc-desire-hd-included-downgrade-from-1-72-405-3-to-1-32/
have a look at the link you gave me, it is missing the main programme.
do you have to go through the root procedure every time you use the radio tool, or will it work every time after the phone is rooted. the reason i ask is that i just tried to do it and it said ''operation failed, probably connection'' ill try it again now
Jamie.Desire.HD said:
the link you gave me for the rado code was missing the important bit!
i managed to find it somewhere else
http://igyaan.in/2011/01/how-to-root-htc-desire-hd-included-downgrade-from-1-72-405-3-to-1-32/
have a look at the link you gave me, it is missing the main programme.
do you have to go through the root procedure every time you use the radio tool, or will it work every time after the phone is rooted. the reason i ask is that i just tried to do it and it said ''operation failed, probably connection'' ill try it again now
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It usually fails the first time, I don't know why. After a reboot it worked for me, keep your phone screen on though as the package will request superuser permission.
That link is definitely not missing anything as I've downloaded and run it from that link several times, but maybe your download got corrupted.
Glad all seems well now anyway.

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