Hi guys,
I have a Desire I bought unlocked on eBay. Though initially thinking it was factory unlocked, and having bought it under that pretense, I now think it's been unlocked by some other means. It doesn't appear to be rooted, having no superuser app but I'm not sure how else it could have been unlocked? If any one can shed some light here, that would be great.
I received the OTA update tonight, and after downloading and resetting it simply wouldn't get past 90% on the install before resetting itself. After about 15 minutes I switched it off and switched it on again, and it booted into my homescreen, with a "loading" alert and a rotating circle, no percentage.
Eventually that stopped, and it looked like everything was ok. I checked the version and it said I was running 2.2. Awesome, so I go about my business and realise I have no 3G or wireless connections. I check the settings and under WiFi it says "error", and I can't enable it. My APN is gone too. I can get that online, but it seems like there's an issue with the radio so I haven't bothered. It doesn't connect to the network anyway. It also resets occasionally, it seems when it has to load SenseUI but I can't confirm this.
What could it be? I'm not sure where the phone came from. It's a Black a8181 model with the Orange case branding, but the OS is unbranded. The locale is English (Singapore/Taiwan/a few others), though I thought the Black model was only in the UK. I'm in Australia, on vodafoneAU.
Is there anything I can do?
Cheers guys, I really hope I haven't (basically) bricked it.
Firstly, removing the SIM lock from the phone has nothing to do with rooting. Usually, you just stick in an "incorrect" SIM, and it will ask for an unlock code which you can buy online.
Given that the OTA update was a patch, it sounds to me like you have a partially patched ROM and this is causing your problems.
However, since it basically boots up and works to a fashion, it isn't bricked and chances are it is fairly easily recovered.
IMHO, you have two options.
1. Install a 2.1 RUU to downgrade your phone.
2. Root the phone using UnreEVOked and load a custom 2.2 ROM.
Both of these should be quite easily so long as your previous attempt to upgrade hasn't already updated HBOOT.
Turn you phone off and then power on again whilst holding down the volume down button - your phone should boot into HBOOT.
Look for the HBOOT version on the second line and post back what it says here.
Regards,
Dave
You've received a branded phone that has been debranded (you should have been told this) - you can't upgrade these without a goldcard. What's happened is part of the upgrade has worked, but other parts failed.
To recover you'll need a goldcard, which will be more difficult to make with the phone rebooting all the time.
teppic74 said:
To recover you'll need a goldcard, which will be more difficult to make with the phone rebooting all the time.
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If the OP can get UnrEVOked running, and doesn't mind having a custom recovery image (good thing!), he/she shouldn't need a goldcard.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If the OP can get UnrEVOked running, and doesn't mind having a custom recovery image (good thing!), he/she shouldn't need a goldcard.
Regards,
Dave
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That's true, though it does mean going down the custom ROM route, which might not be wanted.
Thanks guys, that's really good info.
I'm not too concerned about running custom ROMs, I've been thinking about doing it for a while, just don't know enough about how to root and flash. There are some good guides here, I'm just a bit nervous about doing it. I also don't know what the best ROM would be. I'm really just after a factory standard Desire with Sense ROM, the most out of the box it could be.
I assume an RUU is like a rollback? In which case, what would I be rolling back to. I have no idea how it was debranded, so I don't know what ROM I'd need to roll back to.
As for the goldcard, what would that do? Is that rolling back, or fixing what I have now? It doesn't crash too often, I can probably baby it through.
Sorry for the questions guys, just want to know my options. I didn't think it was too badly bricked, but you never know. I bricked my XDA Mini II trying to flash a new ROM, so you can see my hesitation :/
An RUU is an official way to flash the phone with HTC's own software. That is how the phone was debranded in the first place, and you can do the same to get it back to normal. It does require a goldcard though, which is a minor software patch on the sdcard.
If you root and install a custom ROM (and update the radio) you'll have a working phone again, and you can make a goldcard in your own time.
If I go with an RUU, will OTA updates work? That's really the only thing I'd miss about a custom ROM, the convenience of OTA.
foxmeister said:
Look for the HBOOT version on the second line and post back what it says here.
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Hboot - 0.80.0000
papalazarou said:
If I go with an RUU, will OTA updates work? That's really the only thing I'd miss about a custom ROM, the convenience of OTA.
Hboot - 0.80.0000
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You'll get ota updates if you use an ruu. Just make sure you have your goldcard in when you apply them.
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You'll get ota updates if you use an ruu. Just make sure you have your goldcard in when you apply them.
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Cool, will the process in the link in your sig do the trick? And the goldcard, will I need to keep it in permanently, or only when updating? Trying to decide if I should use a dedicated card for it, or include it on the card I keep in there.
Thanks for the help, I'll run the RUU tomorrow morning.
I'm trying to run unrevoked to root and reflash it, but it get's to a point and fails, saying "failed to flash recovery image".
Any thoughts?
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I've now created a goldcard and am trying the downgrade process in the link in your sig. I've followed all the instructions, but when I ran the downgrade util, after asking for my password, nothing happens.
papalazarou said:
I'm trying to run unrevoked to root and reflash it, but it get's to a point and fails, saying "failed to flash recovery image".
Any thoughts?
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I've now created a goldcard and am trying the downgrade process in the link in your sig. I've followed all the instructions, but when I ran the downgrade util, after asking for my password, nothing happens.
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Yeah, that's my fault for leaving a testing point in the Mac/Linux version of the utility. It was mentioned in the bugs section, but probably not made clear enough. It's fixed now.
Related
I have been searching the web for how to relock my EVO. This is because i am taking it back to sprint for a screen fix and I have learned from the PPCGEEKS thread all the problems and warranty stuff related to rooting as well as the odds of them discovering that I have rooted it. I just don't want to risk it and I would like to know how to relock, just for the knowledge.
Does anyone have specific instructions how??
PPCGEEKS Thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=126849
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
Download first and last, and flash in the same sequence.
So thats all?? its done? It's unrooted? That seems simple.
Yep, that's how easy it is.
On some phones (one out 5 I "control") I had to get all 3 and flash in the same sequence, otherwise last one wouldn't flash over the first - not sure why.
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last one wouldn't flash over the first - not sure why.
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that surprises me. the latest RUU should flash over anything *theoretically*.
what error did it give you when you attempted?
yes, it should be easy to restore the phone to stock. think of all their service departments fixing/refurb'n phones. one simple flash and its all completely stock no matter what was loaded before.
for those more technically included, since this is the dev board, if the eng build RUU is loaded the PRI is downgraded and as of now, no currently released RUU is able to upgrade the PRI ... but thats such a small issue, can almost guarantee nobody will notice.
Damn screen... I have to do the same thing, and just one other question, besides those files I will just have to use Htc Sync to flash them right?
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Damn screen... I have to do the same thing, and just one other question, besides those files I will just have to use Htc Sync to flash them right?
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Those RUUs are just exe files. So sync will provide you with drivers yes, but after downloading you just run from that download with your phone plugged in.
wow after reading that thread on ppcgeeks i dont think i ever want to leave xda! must be a young crowd over there. i ran the latest 1.47 RUU that i downloaded from HTC before I returned my phone. much to my surprise they didn't even take the phone out of the box! still, since it only takes 10 minutes might as well do it.
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Those RUUs are just exe files. So sync will provide you with drivers yes, but after downloading you just run from that download with your phone plugged in.
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are you talking about just using the volume down and power button method?
redsolar said:
Yep, that's how easy it is.
On some phones (one out 5 I "control") I had to get all 3 and flash in the same sequence, otherwise last one wouldn't flash over the first - not sure why.
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whats the point in running all 3 on a phone you are returning? just running the first one is good enough to unroot and restore to stock. i only ran the most recent one, because i had already upgraded the baseband and was unable to run the earlier ones because of it.
joeykrim said:
that surprises me. the latest RUU should flash over anything *theoretically*.
what error did it give you when you attempted?
yes, it should be easy to restore the phone to stock. think of all their service departments fixing/refurb'n phones. one simple flash and its all completely stock no matter what was loaded before.
for those more technically included, since this is the dev board, if the eng build RUU is loaded the PRI is downgraded and as of now, no currently released RUU is able to upgrade the PRI ... but thats such a small issue, can almost guarantee nobody will notice.
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I was surprised too when I tried first.
The 1.47 RUU just sat on the "waiting for bootloader" screen and timed out after ~90 seconds, "unable to find phone" (tried multiple times) and the screen would get stuck in white bootloader/RUU message (battery pull required) - so i am guessing 0.76.2 bootloader was too low for it. That was flashing from 3.2.2+ DamageControl ROM, didn't try from any other one, since the DC -> 1.36 -> 1.47 stock worked well.
And yes, the PRI caveat is there, but as joeykrim said, that's minor, plus you can always say "PRI what - huh?", right?
OneStepAhead said:
whats the point in running all 3 on a phone you are returning? just running the first one is good enough to unroot and restore to stock. i only ran the most recent one, because i had already upgraded the baseband and was unable to run the earlier ones because of it.
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Running latest OTA makes you seem more of a "dumb user" who wouldn't even know what root is?
Yellowcard8992 said:
are you talking about just using the volume down and power button method?
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No. RUUs are handled differently. You download the file. And run it on your computer with the phone plugged in. It does everything for you. You DO NOT flash these via recovery.
Update on my phone
I took it to the sprint store yesterday and against everything I have heard the guy at the store turned my phone and checked it. Thank god I used redsolar's posted method. I must have the appearance of someone who would root there phone. It passed his inspection, luckily.
Thanks for the help
I rooted with the new Simpleroot OTA Edition, with Fresh Rom 053, and RA-Rec.
I'm trying to start over from stock so I can re-root my phone, but I can't get the RUU's to work. The oldest one will actually try and put the phone in bootloader, but while its waiting for bootloader it eventually just stops and gives me the 170 error, usb connector problem.
So is there any other way to go about this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
murdercitydan said:
I rooted with the new Simpleroot OTA Edition, with Fresh Rom 053, and RA-Rec.
I'm trying to start over from stock so I can re-root my phone, but I can't get the RUU's to work. The oldest one will actually try and put the phone in bootloader, but while its waiting for bootloader it eventually just stops and gives me the 170 error, usb connector problem.
So is there any other way to go about this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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ya what I do is replug the usb coord then try ruu again while the phone is stuck on the HTC sign,then if that doesn't work I just manually go into bootloader myself (power+volume down) then use the ruu.exe, works everytime but then it tells me my current version is not valid, so if you ota'd you probably won't ever be able to go back to 1.32.651.1/.6 stock but you can just use the new 1.47.651.1 ruu to regain stock after ota.
Tundricles said:
ya what I do is replug the usb coord then try ruu again while the phone is stuck on the HTC sign,then if that doesn't work I just manually go into bootloader myself (power+volume down) then use the ruu.exe, works everytime but then it tells me my current version is not valid, so if you ota'd you probably won't ever be able to go back to 1.32.651.1/.6 stock but you can just use the new 1.47.651.1 ruu to regain stock after ota.
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Thanks a **** load Tundricles, you saved my ass.
I was getting so pissed, I'd run the RUU and once it got to opening the bootloader on my phone it was get frozen on the HTC screen, and the RUU would get the use connection error. So I unplugged my phone, and noticed it was in the bootloader, but if the usb was plugged in, it wouldn't show the bootloader screen for some reason. So I just plugged it back in and started the RUU back up, it instantly went past the "Waiting for bootloader..." message and started updating.
Thank you, and for anyone else having similar problems, READ THIS!
Flashing the RUU doesn't restore the stock recovery does it?
I ran Unrevoked 2 a while back and I have RUU'd but I'm pretty sure Clockwork Mod is still there.
Sent from my EVO 4G using the XDA App.
ViViDboarder said:
Flashing the RUU doesn't restore the stock recovery does it?
I ran Unrevoked 2 a while back and I have RUU'd but I'm pretty sure Clockwork Mod is still there.
Sent from my EVO 4G using the XDA App.
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It should. RUU replaces everything but PRI
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
murdercitydan said:
Thanks a **** load Tundricles, you saved my ass.
I was getting so pissed, I'd run the RUU and once it got to opening the bootloader on my phone it was get frozen on the HTC screen, and the RUU would get the use connection error. So I unplugged my phone, and noticed it was in the bootloader, but if the usb was plugged in, it wouldn't show the bootloader screen for some reason. So I just plugged it back in and started the RUU back up, it instantly went past the "Waiting for bootloader..." message and started updating.
Thank you, and for anyone else having similar problems, READ THIS!
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np glad I could help
Hi guys, got my Orange-branded uk desire a couple of days ago and have been reading up on rooting etc ever since.
In homage to my username, i'm following this to remove the carrier software:
(rootmydroid.cx.ux/) guides/general/howto-root-your-htc-desire-wildfire-evo-incredible-with-unrevoked/
I'm at step 3. My question is where can i find the most up-to-date official htc rom to flash onto my desire? I know a google search will give me loads of choices, but a lot are now months old and I'm keen not to flash an old version - im running 2.2 at the moment, but i basically just want an unbranded phone without the hassle of making a goldcard.
Is there one single file out there that i need? or will it consist of seperate rom and a radio files? Will the rom come as a .zip or .exe?
I know its a basic question, and once i've got the answer i'll leave you alone and follow the guide myself....just didnt want to flash with unrevoked, and not have a rom to reflash!
if it helps, these are my details:
bravo pvt4 ship s-on
hboot 0.93.0001
micro 051d
touch panel synt0101
radio 5.10.5.30
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
You will need a Goldcard if you're moving off an Orange rom even if you're going to stock HTC.
This is the first thing to do before going any further.
As for an upto date stock unbranded rom, see http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed.exe
You will need to run this RUU on your PC while your phone is connected in fastboot mode.
Please be aware tho, that there isn't an Orange RUU available at the moment so going back to an Orange stock rom could be an issue.
Oh, and do a nand backup as soon as you have rooted.
Mike
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ah right, ok
I was under the impression that loading a rom via unevoked would effectively overwrite the rom i have now, meaning the carrier's applications would be removed in the process?
I guess a complete debrand isn't what I'm after - I don't mind if i still have the Orange logo on start-up (I don't want to unlock it from the Orange network either), as long as there are none of their applications like Orange Maps and Orange Photos when I'm actually using the phone.
Would i still need a goldcard for that? Or would i be able to follow the guide in the link in my first post, flashing the rom you suggested at stage 3?
Thanks in advance!
If you're going to go to a stock, unrooted, unbranded ROM then you won't be able to restore a nandroid backup as you need root!!
First thing, as said, is to make a gold card. Then use it to flash the 2.29.405.2 RUU. Then see how you get on as it is. If you still don't think it's doing what you need it to then root and go for a custom ROM
Right, ive created a goldcard using a guide on the unlockr.com
The website provides links to desire rooting tools 0.75 or 0.80 bootloaders, however mine is 0.93.0001. Can anyone offer any guidance please?
Thanks in advance!
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
can i use that with a goldcard to just debrand then? thought that was only for rooting?
EddyOS said:
If you're going to go to a stock, unrooted, unbranded ROM then you won't be able to restore a nandroid backup as you need root!!
First thing, as said, is to make a gold card. Then use it to flash the 2.29.405.2 RUU. Then see how you get on as it is. If you still don't think it's doing what you need it to then root and go for a custom ROM
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The stock rom (or pretty near to stock) you posted a while back eddy was good enough for his needs do you think?
I think Frankdroid did a variation in your thread of it with root and a2sd+. I was using it for a while and battery was good and the rom smooth enough.
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can i use that with a goldcard to just debrand then? thought that was only for rooting?
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Right...
If you just wanna debrand, as is get rid of the Orange crap, and not be rooted then all you need is a gold card and the RUU from my signature. This will give you a stock, unbranded HTC ROM
If you wanna root and go for a custom ROM, use unrEVOked
yea, i just wanna get rid of the Orange crap. I've made my goldcard, following a guide on theunlockr .com, but have come unstuck when it lists some downloads for certain bootloaders that would allow me to run the RUU, however my bootloader is a lot newer so i wasnt sure where i go from here, now that i've made my goldcard
I've downloaded the RUU, but when i run the .exe, is says its not a valid win32 application....?
Basically i've got a goldcard and the ruu. How do i now get it loaded on my phone?
Which RUU did you download? Latest unbranded one is the one in my signature. Ignore guides online as they've not been updated for months
ive got the ruu from your sig. Goldcard was made following an old guide on the web. Will this be ok?
just not sure where to go next in terms of actually getting the ruu on my phone with the goldcard
Gold card guide is fine. That RUU is also fine as it's my upload and is the one I use myself (using Windows 7 Ultimate x64). Don't know why your version of Windows won't run it - unless it's a corrupt download
yeah, weird. Using Win xp. I'll redownload the ruu in your sig. Once i've got it, what do i do? Turn on phone with power/vol down? Then what do i need to select? I'm guessing once im in the right section, i just connect phone to pc, and just run the ruu .exe?
Sorry, loads of basic q's, appreciate your help!
Turn phone on holding the back button and you'll be in FASTBOOT. Connect to the PC and once your Desire says FASTBOOT USB run the RUU
An error (-5001 : 0x80070002) has occured while running the setup.
Please make sure you have finished any previous setup and closed other applications. If the error still occures, please contact your vendor
Bugger! Any ideas?
It worked! Thanks a lot for your help EddyOS
np
Remember, though...you'll need your gold card for ALL future OTA updates if you're staying stock. You may as well make your day to day card your gold card to cut out the faffing about!
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An error (-5001 : 0x80070002) has occured while running the setup.
Please make sure you have finished any previous setup and closed other applications. If the error still occures, please contact your vendor
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Hey i am getting the same error...how did you resolve it.
Appreciate your help
Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!
1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting
Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
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2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
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there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card
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Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.
There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now
Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
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Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted
Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through
GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here
What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.
1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there
kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181
I really have this huge problem that's been really bugging me all week and i cant seem to concentrate with it over my head. I am new to rooting devices and i was a little ahead of myself recently... I finally rooted my phone and over my excitement i just had to add custom roms to my Evo 4g, i didnt really understand what i was doing, i mainly followed instructions to most sites, mainly cyanogen, and got the latest version of cyanogen, i had troubles starting it up at first, it was stuck on the bootup screen for cyanogen (droid on skateboard with spark flying around) and it kept going black and reloading, i didint know what to do, so i took the battery out after a hour of waiting then i wiped my drive in fear of bricking my phone (i know i wasnt thinking) i did not make a back up of my previous point of time where i actually practically running stock, and i am still upset at that mistake, after doing a factory reset from the clockwork recovery, cyanogen finally booted up, but was missing alot of things, i.e. android market and so on... im now wanting to go back to stock and i have already got Son somehow, can anyone help walk me through this, id very much appreciate it!!
acidcobra2002 said:
I really have this huge problem that's been really bugging me all week and i cant seem to concentrate with it over my head. I am new to rooting devices and i was a little ahead of myself recently... I finally rooted my phone and over my excitement i just had to add custom roms to my Evo 4g, i didnt really understand what i was doing, i mainly followed instructions to most sites, mainly cyanogen, and got the latest version of cyanogen, i had troubles starting it up at first, it was stuck on the bootup screen for cyanogen (droid on skateboard with spark flying around) and it kept going black and reloading, i didint know what to do, so i took the battery out after a hour of waiting then i wiped my drive in fear of bricking my phone (i know i wasnt thinking) i did not make a back up of my previous point of time where i actually practically running stock, and i am still upset at that mistake, after doing a factory reset from the clockwork recovery, cyanogen finally booted up, but was missing alot of things, i.e. android market and so on... im now wanting to go back to stock and i have already got Son somehow, can anyone help walk me through this, id very much appreciate it!!
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The reason that you were missing things in Cyanogen, is because you didn't flash GAPPS (google apps), which are things like Market, Gmail etc. If you already have S-on, and you're sure you want to go back to stock, unrooted, then it shouldn't be too bad for you. One way would be to download a PC36IMG.zip, place it on the root of your sd card, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will flash the factory ROM for you. You could also run RUU, from your PC. Plug phone into PC with USB cable, and run the RUU from your computer. Either of those methods should work for you, and get you back to stock. Here are a couple links that might help you.
Complete list of factory PC36IMG.zip and RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Guide on how to Unroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Good luck.
k2buckley said:
The reason that you were missing things in Cyanogen, is because you didn't flash GAPPS (google apps), which are things like Market, Gmail etc. If you already have S-on, and you're sure you want to go back to stock, unrooted, then it shouldn't be too bad for you. One way would be to download a PC36IMG.zip, place it on the root of your sd card, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will flash the factory ROM for you. You could also run RUU, from your PC. Plug phone into PC with USB cable, and run the RUU from your computer. Either of those methods should work for you, and get you back to stock. Here are a couple links that might help you.
Complete list of factory PC36IMG.zip and RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Guide on how to Unroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Good luck.
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Thank you so much for a quick reply, it really helps, but one more question, i tried to run pc36img, but it keeps saying it failed because a older version was present, also, sorry for asking another, but i have also wondered this other method with all these other download links, there is alot and how would i know what one to use?
also! i tried running the first download and it keeps saying that my phone isnt connected even if it is? does it need to be in debugging mode or what?
you have to flash most recent gapps for market.
acidcobra2002 said:
Thank you so much for a quick reply, it really helps, but one more question, i tried to run pc36img, but it keeps saying it failed because a older version was present, also, sorry for asking another, but i have also wondered this other method with all these other download links, there is alot and how would i know what one to use?
also! i tried running the first download and it keeps saying that my phone isnt connected even if it is? does it need to be in debugging mode or what?
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Do you know what hboot version you have? If not, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will say hboot version at the top I believe. If you have an older hboot version, I'm pretty sure you want an older PC36IMG or RUU. If you notice, they all list different software versions (3.70, 3.30, 3.29, 3.26 etc). The 3.70 is the newest, and I believe you'd use that for the newest hboot versions (2.10 or 2.02) The older hboot's (.76, .93, .97) I believe you'd use either 3.29 or 3.30. Someone please step in and correct me if I'm wrong or misinformed. I'm also not sure if you need to be in debugging mode, I would try putting it in debugging mode for sure (I've never had to unroot, but have read up on how to do it) If you are getting the main version is older when running the PC36IMG, I would try a different PC36IMG, one with older software, 3.29 or 3.30. I've read many times of people needing to try different ones before they got it to flash. That's why there are so many on there, because different phones may require different versions, I believe.
k2buckley said:
Do you know what hboot version you have? If not, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will say hboot version at the top I believe. If you have an older hboot version, I'm pretty sure you want an older PC36IMG or RUU. If you notice, they all list different software versions (3.70, 3.30, 3.29, 3.26 etc). The 3.70 is the newest, and I believe you'd use that for the newest hboot versions (2.10 or 2.02) The older hboot's (.76, .93, .97) I believe you'd use either 3.29 or 3.30. Someone please step in and correct me if I'm wrong or misinformed.
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It is Hboot-2.10.0001
You sir [user above me] are correct. I have linked ya to a site with a lot of RUUs, and they list the version number.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
Download the RUU, boot into the bootloader [turn off then hold vol down while phone turns on] then select fastboot, then run the exe, and follow zeh instructions.
acidcobra2002 said:
It is Hboot-2.10.0001
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Which PC36IMG or RUU did you try? (which software) You may need to try a couple different ones on there.
I am new here. I rooted my phone recently, but now i want to sell it an at least need to remove the s-off completely or just the picture at the start of the boot.
I've some threads, and apart from reflashing to official RUU, I dont see any other way.
I also tried this method, but with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
can you give me any other sugesetions?
igormujan said:
I am new here. I rooted my phone recently, but now i want to sell it an at least need to remove the s-off completely or just the picture at the start of the boot.
I've some threads, and apart from reflashing to official RUU, I dont see any other way.
I also tried this method, but with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
can you give me any other sugesetions?
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unebootin works but your rom has to be an non data 2 sd because it interferes...try with oxygen then you can flash your rom
Why don't just change the splash screen?
Use search for a guide to change it.
Good luck!
Running the RUU will get it back to 100% stock - removing S-OFF and putting it back to an 'out of the box' state. Best way to do it if you're going to sell the unit.
Just use the right RUU
Thanks a lot for the help
Just one question, if i run the RUU will the phone recieve OTA updates (sorry if what I'm asking is silly)?
igormujan said:
Thanks a lot for the help
Just one question, if i run the RUU will the phone recieve OTA updates (sorry if what I'm asking is silly)?
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I think you should get them then.