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Hi Folks,
sneaking around all the Forums and Threads about HTC-Desire I came to the conclusion that I urgently need a new ROM on my smartphone. OK, to be honest, it is more-or-less because off this permanent message that my memory is running low.
So I started to gain knowledge about 'root', 'S-Off', 'HBoot', 'Recovery' and all that stuff. It took a while by I managed to 'root' my Desire without any issue.
Bye the way I learned a complete new language and had to jump between several threads to understand all these abbreviations.
Now I struggle with myself as I am not able to decide on which ROM to choose. My favorites are MIUI and Oxygen. But, what confuses me most are the different versions of each ROM. Yes, I read all the threads of most every single ROM but that made the decision not easier.
Is there someone around who can provide some experience with MIUI and/or Oxygen ROMs.
What I really looking for is a nice looking, state-of-the-art, stable and fast ROM as I am not of that kind to flash updates every day.
Did I ever mentioned that my grandchild is laughing at me, so please help me proof that even someone not familiar with all that new stuff will be able to flash a new ROM.
Cheers !!
My suggestion for MIUI is this one:
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/archived-miui-versions-desire-gb.16551/
It's stock version from MIUI England, without many modifications. You can also check out on MIUI Germany site.
In my signature you have something I made that's based on CM7 with just a few mods.
I'm using the MIUI ROM too, the response I get is way faster than the stock HTC rom. Although it's a shame that development stopped at GB (I really want the scrollable widget in ICS), but some of the guys here are working on ICS/JB ports, might jump onto one of those when they mature.
While everyone's developing forward into JB 4.2, I want to go slowly;
I've learnt from the HTC Desire that new may not always be the best; Back then GB was the thing and everyone had some 2.3.7 ROMs...
So, I'm wondering if CM7 can be ported onto our Xperias...?
It may not be useful, but there are some old ways of making a GB phone beat the shiz out of ICS+
someone755 said:
While everyone's developing forward into JB 4.2, I want to go slowly;
I've learnt from the HTC Desire that new may not always be the best; Back then GB was the thing and everyone had some 2.3.7 ROMs...
So, I'm wondering if CM7 can be ported onto our Xperias...?
It may not be useful, but there are some old ways of making a GB phone beat the shiz out of ICS+
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It would require a lot of work but it's doable I guess? FXP picked up the S from cm9 onwards so I guess CM7 was seen as unnecessary
Well then, any idea how we can convince them it IS necessary?
Maybe a petition?
Y not go all out and rip donut off an X10i?
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
A good idea, but GB was faster...
Seriously, though, why not? The device HAD official GB, why wouldn't we have CM7?
That opens a whole new world for ROMs; on one hand 4+, and on the other 2.3...
Ben36 said:
Y not go all out and rip donut off an X10i?
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
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Better still cupcake ? No but seriously, The FXP team are focused on 4.X onwards for the S, you could try asking other devs if they're interested or try for yourself? I think XDA university has a guide about how to compile CM for your phone
Here it is: http://xda-university.com/as-a-developer/porting-aosp-roms-using-source-code
Cool!
Just one problem; I don't have Ubuntu... Backtrack is pretty close (I have it), but I can't instal some of the programs the tutorial demands...
I've already tried porting CWM using XDAU, but failed miserably due to that...
I'll see if I can install Ubuntu in the linux partition (instead of backtrack) (I dual boot Windows XP and Backtrack), and I'll try downloading again...
Okay, so I've found a bunch of porting guides for all sorts of phones and Android versions, but they all require either an existing GB tree in GitHub or a GB zip ROM...
I have neither, but what I do have is the stock GB .ftf... But that can't help much, since, well, it's not zip...
I CAN extract it, but what next? Extract further?
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Okay, so I've found a bunch of porting guides for all sorts of phones and Android versions, but they all require either an existing GB tree in GitHub or a GB zip ROM...
I have neither, but what I do have is the stock GB .ftf... But that can't help much, since, well, it's not zip...
I CAN extract it, but what next? Extract further?
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Extract ftf using winrar
U can extract the system dump too from ftf
Okay, I may as well get a title here; NOOB ALERT ...
What's the system dump? I've heard it already a million times, but I never got the answer... It said somewhere that it has to do something with the bootloader, but I'm not sure...
Anyways, once I build me a GB ROM (I'm using this; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183832), I just copy and paste stuff (like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713)?
Though I'll probably get to an issue with the camera and other things, since they're not exactly AOSP...?
This thread might as well be renamed to 'Tutorial' if I keep 'developing' like this xD
Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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I dont have the ftf's but in your choice with ROMs, seen as u want something fast but still able to play emulators id recommend JB. ICS was ok probably CM9 & AOKP where the 2 ROMs I used. But you will need to flash farenheits touchpad fix.
Theres about 6 ROMs at the moment for JB. I use my own obviously which is PACman (mix of cm9, aokp,paranoid android and miui) but with the choice of multibooting I also have cm9 & AOKP in different slots which are accesible to boot through recovery at anytime. Also I added farenheiths touchoad fix into PACman source so no need to flash anything to fix it.
Choice is yours at the end of the day, but I find JB alot faster / smoother then ICS.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
I use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
Is the best ICS ROM that I ever try. But yes, JB is faster than ICS.
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
pfmdan said:
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
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Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
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Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
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Is for the stability that im not using JB. The Stock based ROM that I mention later is the best that you can get with ICS. I'm using it with Lupus Kernel and overclocked to 1.2 (min 460) and also I erase many stuff with Link2SD because there are many garbage you really don't need. And I've got a great experience with this ROM. Give a try if you want, I recommend it.
DL?
Hi wedgess!
I'd like to have my first go at using flashtool tonight to flash your ROM but where do I download it?
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628197
Doesn't even list JB roms such as yours.
You can find any of my work by clicking on my profile -> statistics -> Find all threads started by wedgess
But to make it easier for you
- PACman ROM v5 thread here
You will need to flash this stock ftf first to use the kernels as they have vendor unlocked partitions
Theres also a link in PAC thread to LuPuS-v7 kernel, if you want to read up a bit on multiboot(recommended) or there is this great guide by fma
Put the PAC-v5.zip onto sdcard. LuPuS-v7 is inside the PAC ROM's .zip just extract the kernel.img from the PAC-v5.zip and flash the kernel.img in flashtool via fastboot mode.
Hey there...
I read trough the forum but havn't found anything that matches this topic... so i hope u can help me.
I just wanted to know how to turn an ARC/S rom into a PRO rom.
When i look at some multi-device roms, the differences between the devices are very small...
And i already managed to get an ACR/S rom boot and some kind of working on the Pro...
only thing doesn't work: the keyboard and the touchscreen (touch is working but not properly).
so: how do i make an almost "clean" port from an ARC/S Rom to my Pro?
PS: i hope my english is good enough to understand my problem xD
how to port a rom
Thank you... but that was not, what i wanted...
I know how to port roms...
i just wanted to know which files (modules etc) i have to copy/replace to make a pro rom out of an arc rom...
there must be a way, cause many roms are build for arc/s and then just some files are added so it becomes a pro rom...
The way you showed me means, that i already have a base rom which is working. But i want to use the arc rom itself.
thank you...
ManCloud said:
Thank you... but that was not, what i wanted...
I know how to port roms...
i just wanted to know which files (modules etc) i have to copy/replace to make a pro rom out of an arc rom...
there must be a way, cause many roms are build for arc/s and then just some files are added so it becomes a pro rom...
The way you showed me means, that i already have a base rom which is working. But i want to use the arc rom itself.
thank you...
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you can just PM some devs that posted a rom like that
What Firmware Rom?
ICS/GB?JB
ManCloud said:
I know how to port roms...
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Then you should know which files you need, as you don't, perhaps some more reading of what's already available will help.
i already had some success.
but there is one thing, that is getting on my nerves... even if almost everything seems to work two things dont...
the mms.apk is crashing every time i try to launch it and the hardware keyboard isn't recognized correct.
means the SW-keyboard doesnt pop up because the system always thinks, the keyboard is out but is rotating the sreen correctly as i move the phone.
the problem with the keyboard is already known from the Slim Bean 3.10 Pro Rom. and i dont know where to find the correct things to change that.
Couple of links that you might find something useful in - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106747 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923675
Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all