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Hey guys I have been doing quite a bit of searching through the forums and still have a couple questions about custom roms and rooting. Forgive the noobness but the droid incredible is my first android device and I only recently got it.
1. My first question is what is the simplest way (rom + root I assume) to get a stock version of android on my incredible? Also what rom would you recommend (I have seen a pretty big list but know nothing about them)?
2. What is the difference, if any, between a kernel and a rom? Ive seen both words used a lot and have seen kernels that are stock and roms that are as well. Which would I use between the two?
I know these questions may be dumb but I have been searching for a couple days and have gone through hundreds of threads trying to find the definitive answer (there were some benefits though, I use launcher pro and the droid x's keyboard now) any help would be appreciated.
1. You are right in assuming that the quickest (and only) way to get a stock version of Android on your phone is to root your phone and install a custom recovery that will allow you to flash a rom. It is not really possible for me to recommend a rom because rom's are all about personal preference and my preference may be different from yours. That being said, if you are interested in stock Android, check out Cyanogenmod. The biggest thing right now is that for the Incredible, Cyanogenmod is the only true stock Android that is compiled from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) however it is still in its early stages for our device, so it's still buggy. The other roms are modified versions of our stock sense rom, so some of the roms are modified to have the bulkier parts of of the Sense UI removed, but it is still a Sense rom.
2. I'm not going to profess to be extremely in the know about kernels, but a kernel is the go-between for the hardware and the os/applications. If you want to learn more about kernels, you can read the wikipedia page about kernels found here. Basically what you need to know is that the rom is the operating system, so if you wanted to change the OS such as from Sense to Vanilla Android, you would flash a rom. If you wanted to change the way the system runs, such as if you want your processor to be overclocked or undervolted, you would flash a kernel.
Hope this helps.
That answered everything! Thanks for the reply and I will keep checking the forums for stock roms that seem stable!
Hi,
i just got a Desire ,and im gonna root it put on a new rom...but i see in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328 ,that there are a whole lot of roms and was wondering what is the diff between them? I mean to go through all the faq of those roms would take all day,so plz help ? so basically im looking for a ROM suggestion (and an explanation for it)
There are few differences between each other in each section. Things like some have A2SD, some have DATA2SD and so on. Some are faster, some are smoother. To be honest, if you know what you want then just try each rom from that section. A rom is a personal preference. If you go for Non-Sense/Gingerbread, try Oxygen or CyanogenMod. Sense roms, I see a lot of people going for LeeDroid. Sense HD, I tried Cool-z. Try them out.
ohhh my godddddddddd.. another one eh.. and now not only you are asking for our opinion to base yours upon, but also telling us that you'd rather waste our time to save yours.. by the way, there is a forum search button, do lean to use it. Much apprechiated.
Feel free to troll away
Ive just got a HTC Desire GSM (from HTC Magic) and tried a number of Desire ROMS, incl Gingerbread, CM nightly, Oxygen, DHD ROMS. I was never a big HTC SENSE Fan, but I loaded this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392 and so far stuck with it. I generally change ROMS ever 2 - 3 days, but this one has stuck. Its not lighting quick, but fully featured and very polished.
disclaimer - Its my opinion only and as other will tell you, flashing ROM is a personal choice. - cheers P
Tnx jelly and pp think ill try a rom per catagery
Hey everyone,
I have bought myself a Galaxy S 2 which is brilliant and has taken over from my Desire as my main device, but this has led me to the question, is it worth rooting my Desire and playing with custom roms now I do not have to rely on it as my main device?
It is on Orange, android 2.2, and if I mess it up, I suppose I could just drop it in a pool of water and return it on insurance lol
Reason I ask is because all the rooting threads confuse the crap out of me, but I have always been interested in messing around and seeing just what this phone is capable of or just what could be done to speed it up or have it looking super cool with new user experience.
I suppose the main question is, can you customise the phone to the same level without rooting and custom roms, and is it really that much better when rooted?
Any opinions are very welcome.
Also, it is an SLCD, orange branded but network unlocked using the CD method I found on the forums. Is there anything I need to know about my phone, before I root, if I decide to root.
Anyway, thanks for any and all opinions or help on this.
Biffy.
Root and s-off if you want to be able to to anything.
After that you have to chose the rom ... The most difficult !
I currently use LeeDroiD 3.0.8.2 (GB + sense) in A2SD+ version. Fast, stable and enough features inside for me.
to me installing custom rom is more because of curiousity. I learned quite a lot because of this custom roms thingie, since i was too worried to try it and done a LOT of reading here and there. until now, lol
Thanks for the replies So do you guys think that the custom roms improve the phone? If not improve, is it fun again playing with the phone when you've installed a rom?
I'd love to install something with a new version of sense to see what it's like, as playing with the Desire HD in a shop, it seemed really good.
Anyway cheers for the replies I'm gonna read more about rooting..
Cheers.
I was also worried in the beginning but I read all the tutorials on forum and it is very easy to put custom ROM. Also I'm using 2.1+3.0 sense and it is very nice + ROM is fast and stable
start from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Brilliant Thanks I'll take a look there as that sounds perfect
Biff.
Just done Unrevolked and phone is in ClockworkMod Recovery now, seems it is rooted lol.
I will leave it there and read more see what else I can do or what my next step is...
Ok, i'm getting excited now, as i've rooted and S-Off'd my phone now, and have gparted ready to sort out the SDCARD
This is where i'm stuck as I don't know which ROM to use, although I believe a gingersense (If I can convince myself I don't want to use camera?) or a HD Rom would be best for me to try.
I think the AOSP? Stock android roms are a little .. shall we say .. ugly, and the MIUI (iphoneish) ones are too iphoney.
So what do you guys reckon are the best gingersense or HD roms about?
Cheers for all the posts and suggestions, it's going well I think
Biff.
I'm using this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
it's fast and stable, cheers
Awesome, that one looks great i'll see if I can get it installed later.
Tried to install Cyanogenmod 7 CM1 through ROM manager, but I am getting what I believe is referred to in the trade as a boot loop lol
Will have a play to sort it out
Hi there
I am new to this forum but have been told this is the forum to go to for continuing development on the htc desire.
I bought an unlocked htc desire from ebay but as there are no updates was wondering what would be my best options for improving performance and enhancement of the phone.
I would like to know wether i should root the phone.
Upgrade to 2.3
or just leave it.
I would like to extend battery life and update the rom to like jellybean or other.
please advise me
My advice would be start off with a good gingerbread Rom (android 2.x), as its a mature format you can be pretty sure the phone will be stable, and all features will work. I like both the RSK team's Rom and mildwild's cm7 one, but there are many I've not tried.
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You should definitely root, and s-off it to get the best out of it. For this, check the "All Things Root" guide in my sig.
As frosty said, you should start with a stable GB rom, whether it's Sense or not.
If you only want to upgrade the Desire to the official 2.3 rom, then check the RUU in my sig.
root, upgrade or leave
thankks for that.
are there only a certain amount of customs roms available for Desire , ie, CM7(GB) or can you install newer versions.
This rooting sounds good but before i doi am going to need to know more, especially the continual development for this device.
is there still good support from XDA for this device.
I am after good support and devlopment.
Why not look at the development thread and make up your own mind if the community is active or not?
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looks busy.
just hope i dont do the wrong thing.
so is it possible to install other roms apart from cm7 what about the latest roms??
Read the first couple of posts, and the last few pages of the thread to get a feel for stability and issues. I see a simple, basic decision process, decide if you want something new and shiny, which might have a few problems, or something old and maybe a bit boring, but reliable.(gingerbread vs ics/jb)
Once that decision has been made just choose your Rom, make sure you have the right hboot for the one you want to try, so long as you have your nandroid backup to fall back on you're unlikely to break anything.
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I have been reading the posts and threads about rooting and it sounds quite complicated.
Reading a mag about android and rooting you can also do it without connecting to your pc.
As I am not technologically minded on phones , the mag seemed to make it sound easier.
I think the software for the phone or website is called z4??
any ideas on this.
many thanks
A quick search suggests it's not a lot of use for us. Rooting and s-off are relatively complicated, but worth the rewards, and you can't expect a whole new phone experience without a little effort...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
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I'm in similar situation. I rooted my 2.2 Froyo yesterday. Installed Link2SD made appropriate partition and moved apps to it. So thats not the problem anymore.
Now I'm wondering if I should instal custom ROM and which one?
My high priorities:
Stability
Advanced functions working properly (eg. tethering)
Speed (faster than stock froyo)
My low priorities:
As new as possible (JB?)
Sense
Easy to install
Which one should I get? Or should I stay on Froyo?
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I'm in similar situation. I rooted my 2.2 Froyo yesterday. Installed Link2SD made appropriate partition and moved apps to it. So thats not the problem anymore.
Now I'm wondering if I should instal custom ROM and which one?
My high priorities:
Stability
Advanced functions working properly (eg. tethering)
Speed (faster than stock froyo)
My low priorities:
As new as possible (JB?)
Sense
Easy to install
Which one should I get? Or should I stay on Froyo?
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You can't have sense and jb at the same time. If you want sense, you will have to install gb. If you want JB, you will have stability problems after a while, if not in the first week.
So what you are asking is impossible to fulfill.
If you want a stable sense, try Coolsense v3, or Runnymede aio special edition.
If you want jb, then try VJ's JB.
root, upgrade or leave
thanks for that.
so my aim is the following:
1.- newer and stable rom
2.- better performance
3. good and continual support for that rom.
all help welcome.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
You can't have sense and jb at the same time. If you want sense, you will have to install gb. If you want JB, you will have stability problems after a while, if not in the first week.
So what you are asking is impossible to fulfill.
If you want a stable sense, try Coolsense v3, or Runnymede aio special edition.
If you want jb, then try VJ's JB.
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Thanks. What I read ICS and JB for desire are not so stable. So GB with Sense for me.
Try RSK SMS for a great gingerbread with sense Rom. Ticks all your boxes (apart from ics/jb)
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So you would recommend to me a starting point for rooting with CM7 GB??
does this rom get updates or is this a finished rom?
in the long run i am looking for a good rom with good continuity and support.
please advise.
It's not been updated in ages, read the thread, it might not be "New", but it's stable
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frosty68 said:
It's not been updated in ages, read the thread, it might not be "New", but it's stable
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Actually, nightlies are released, but at a slow rate. The last one is two weeks old.
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Sorry to be a bit stupid but i am very new to this and dont really understand the process.
there are so many roms and threads/ posts, but dont understand much the technology, so just want some advice on what i should install, but i would like something that is stable for desire but is getting continued support?
root, upgrade or leave
frosty68 said:
My advice would be start off with a good gingerbread Rom (android 2.x), as its a mature format you can be pretty sure the phone will be stable, and all features will work. I like both the RSK team's Rom and mildwild's cm7 one, but there are many I've not tried.
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would this be my best bet for starting out, are there any new stable ones for desire.?
pls tell me as i dont understand the terminology listed on that page.
I know very little, but in my opinion, yes. Start with something tried and tested..and popular. Once you've gone through the process of rooting and flashing a new (to you) rom that's known to work, do the backups and have a look at the new stuff we'll never officially have, ics and jb. That backup will be there to give you a quick "Get me outta here" option.
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Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
damo666 said:
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all