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A2SD/A2SD+ on stock HTC rom ?

Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
Theres the script for apps2sd, not sure if you can just flash the .zip though.
IMO, you might not think there's anything to change until you experience the changes, just get a custom rom and reap the benefits.

No, you need init.d support. Get a custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Pre-rooted stock Froyo with optional a2sd+.

Allright, I finally decided to use LeeDroid's rom and, so far so good ! PLenty of free phone memory, with a ton of apps !! Thanks a lot for your usefull comments.

I was in the same predicaent yesterday, but gave up as I had to go out!
I had LeeDroid with A2SD on the phone, but it still ran out of space when I installed Need For Speed... but this was probably because I didn't have my SD Card partitioned.
Am I right when I think that I have to backup my SD Card, then go into ROM Manager and simply format the card in there for A2SD?
I tried this, but I still only see my SD card as 1 partition when I look in Windows 7. Is this right - or should I see 2 partitions?
Sorry for the newb questions - but I want to get it all sorted before I start setting the phone up the way I want!!

Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.

thed0g said:
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
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Thanks for the reply.
I checked my partition with Quick System Info - and something must've gone wrong as my A2SD partition is only 16mb with only 2mb free!!
What settings am I supposed to use when I use ROM Manager to make the partition? I'm pretty sure I set the first one to 512mb and the second to 0mb like I read somewhere. Is this wrong?

Yeah, thats ok 512mb for apps and 0 for swap. Try it couple times, maybe the ROM manager didn't do it properly for the 1st time. Check with Quick System Info when its done.

Actually, you can use anything you want to format your microSDHC card. I used a computer with linux, a card reader and gparted, and I found it way more straightforward than using the phone to do the job. Gparted is included in Ubuntu and yu even have gparted live disk/usb (go to gparted.sourceforge.net. Sorry can't post links on the forum yet )

Dinaiz said:
Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
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Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days

That's just AWESOME !! Many thanks for the tip, that's exactly what I was looking for

tester72 said:
Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
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This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for, but the bit about installing BusyBox came as a surprise. What does that do for you here?
Thanks
John

[Q] SD Card Partition help, expand internal memory,A2SD+ ,GParted , ?,

Hey Guys , I need some help with SD card partition.
I'm using HTC desire 16 GB SD card , my device is rooted and I have been all over this tutorial :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
which means that I have S-Off Precedure With Alpharev too.
I have partition my Sd Card With Gparted.
I have logged to unix , created a 3 partitions ,first one is the fat32 12 gb , second ext3 2GB, and about 200MB of swap partition....
In addition I have installed new room, the : [ROM] LeeDrOiD 2.4.1 A2SD
The thing is , that after partitions my sd card I have expected to have about 2 GB of available internal memory (setting -> sd & phone storage -> Available space )
I have expected to observe about the size of my ext3 partition size in the available space . - in the internal phone storage.
It's seems to be the the phone is unable to recognize the ext3 partition, and locate in as an internal memory.
What shall I do in order to expand my (virtual) internal memory ?
( I have look over most tutorial in the forum )
(I went through the partitions tutorial , specially this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V64S6cEkGw&feature=player_embedded
but it's seems to have no effect over the memory )
BTW, I have tried GParted , and rom manager as well , both gave me the same results.
Cheers
Shahar
I'd like to know how to create

That is not how a2sd+ works, your internal memory won't increase. It just goes down slower. Use titanium backup to see if your ext is recognised.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Tea because ext isn't internal storage. Its on your SD card so its classed as external storage, thus the size wont change. There are a couple, if that, just 1 rom that actually changes it but other than that, it doesnt change.
You also don't need swap. Especially the 200mb of swap will greatly slow down your phone as TheGhost said. Remove it and have about 1GB or ext and you will be fine. When you flash a rom, install a few apps and see of they're installing to ext.
Sent from CM7

Thanks
TheGhost1233 said:
That is not how a2sd+ works, your internal memory won't increase. It just goes down slower. Use titanium backup to see if your ext is recognised.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
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Hey TheGhost1233
And thanks for your help
I was watching a friend of mine from school , the guy using the same phone (HTC Desire) , and he were able to change his internal memory to 1.33 Gb !!! (I was so impressed) ,
Do you know how has he done that ?
I remember the mentioned running a script from xda .... (I was searching the forum all over)
Is there any way to change my internal memory storage to 1.333 GB, as a virtual memory over my SD card storage.
Cheers
Shahar

Maybe your friend uses a rom with data2sd script from sibere (Starburst ROM uses it see here)

Meaple said:
Tea because ext isn't internal storage. Its on your SD card so its classed as external storage, thus the size wont change. There are a couple, if that, just 1 rom that actually changes it but other than that, it doesnt change.
You also don't need swap. Especially the 200mb of swap will greatly slow down your phone as TheGhost said. Remove it and have about 1GB or ext and you will be fine. When you flash a rom, install a few apps and see of they're installing to ext.
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Thanks for your help
Are you sure about the swap partitions ? I'm familiar with the unix platform, and a swap partition is very essential.
do you know which rom changes the internal memory ?
And I have spotted my partition using titanium backup ....
What kind of things I can do with that partition ?
Thanks
Shahar

CyanogenMod website has a good explaination for this topic:
As I'm not yet allowed to post outside links go to cyanogenmod website -> community -> wiki -> Swap and Compcache
Hope you will find it...

Hey guys
I have finally made it !!!
Manage to have 2 GB at my internal memory
Using the Gparted partition and the http://starburstrom.wordpress.com/ roms
Thanks for the help !!
~ Closed .....

shaharsar said:
Hey guys
I have finally made it !!!
Manage to have 2 GB at my internal memory
Using the Gparted partition and the http://starburstrom.wordpress.com/ roms
Thanks for the help !!
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I want to ask if the starburstrom has built-in Data2SD or I have to run the script seperately ???

It's not built in. But on Starburst website (mentioned above) you get all you need to activate it. It's easy. Just follow the instructions on the site.

vi.p said:
It's not built in. But on Starburst website (mentioned above) you get all you need to activate it. It's easy. Just follow the instructions on the site.
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Do I need to s-off my desire firstly for using Data2SD ?

Not at all!

I found that the Data2Sd installer has different series: X, W and Tiny series.
Which one should I need to use?....thx

[Q] partitioning sd card

hey everyone
i have rooted my phone and installed cyanongen mod7, the fact is that i followed the noobprrof tutorial, and as he stated i partitioned my sd card, i left 1 gb ( its a 4gb memory now its divided to 3 and 1 ), but i didnt know where did it go and why i did partition my sd card, i thought it would add up to internal memory but it didnt...
please can anyone tell me whats the purpose of paritioning it ?? and how can i let apps get installed on this paritioned part if its purpose is so...
i have also realised in the video that as he entered to phone storage, theres a part at the end name personal data that is not appearing in my phone... does this have to do anything with wut im asking ??
thanks in advance

making sd-ext is for ROMs which uses A2SD and it installs apps directly to that sd-ext. it's on sd card don't worry and those partitions are not visible in windows, only in linux.

thank u ferencz1
ok so most of the time when i move apps to sdcard the 3gb partition's free space decreases and not the 1gb partition...
1gb partition is the ext4
3gb is the fat32
isnt it supposed that the 1gb partition that decreases in free space ??

Titanium backup shows you a split - system rom, internal, sd card, sd ext ....
Look at that to see if your ext is working properly - yes is should decrease!
No need to 'move' apps to sd - its auto
Does your rom suport ext 4?? if not start again with ext 3!

BigMrB said:
Titanium backup shows you a split - system rom, internal, sd card, sd ext ....
Look at that to see if your ext is working properly - yes is should decrease!
No need to 'move' apps to sd - its auto
Does your rom suport ext 4?? if not start again with ext 3!
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CM7 does support ext4 right, don't know i use IC, but what you said about titanium backup is wrong, sometimes it doesn't say how much ext. there's. Quick System Info does although

TopGear63z said:
CM7 does support ext4 right, don't know i use IC, but what you said about titanium backup is wrong, sometimes it doesn't say how much ext. there's. Quick System Info does although
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I use both... but titanium everyone has and to be fair always shows it for me

[Q] Memory and Ram Issue on InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1

I recently installed InsertCoin's CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1, after installing my internal memory has become really low and i only get 120mb of ram when i got 220mb on the official 2.2. I have partitioned my sd card using gparted. I made a normal fat32 and a EXT4. Do i need to make a EXT3 partition? also how would i know if the apps are on my sd card since i cannot move them manually with application manager. Please can you help me. Thanks
Phone info:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off using Revolutionary
Rooted with Unrevoked
Current Rom: Official HTC 2.2

Its normal to have low than froyo couse its gb android
And no u dont need ext3 just ext4
If u wanna know if ur apps goes to ur ext4 in ur sd card
Go to market search quick sysktem info pro
U will notice A2SD PARTITION label under basic info
It will tell u how much used and how much free
Dont get mad of free 120 mb i have 87 app installed
All workes fine
Hope iam usefull

do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.

ruhelking1 said:
do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.
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How big ist your ext 4 Partition?

i made a 2gb etx4 partition using gparted. I think the apps are going on to the ext4 partition from the memory reading on System Info but im still getting low memory notification

i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see

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MY PHONE INFO:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off with Revolutionary
Rooted using Unrevoked
ClockworkMod Recovery
Currently on Instertcoin 1.1.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940)
16gb Memory card = 12.9gb Fat32 and 2gb EXT4
Wiped Data and everything else before 1st install (Dalvik cache,cache)

ruhelking1 said:
i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see
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Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.

grandem said:
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.
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how would i move the dalvik cache. Also if i use the A2SD+ version of the rom, would i install it exactly the same as CM7 or would i have to do something different pre or post install?

SOLVED!!!!
i flashed the CM7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl by downloading the hboot, naming it PB99IMG.zip and using clockwork recovery to update the hboot. then i installed Insertcoins 1.1.2 rom.
WARNING!!!!
FLASHING A NEW HBOOT WILL MAKE YOUR OLD NANDROID BACKUP REDUNDANT, YOU CAN ONLY USE ROMS WITH CM7

[Q] Need help changing ROM

Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!

omar93500 said:
Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!
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davebugyi said:
Data++ is a technique that was first implemented and tested by ClassicalDude. Using a re-laid out nand MTD, only the davlik-cache is retained in the internal memory. All .apk's are moved to the SD-EXT partition, where they are rarely accessed. This means a HD RoM can be fit in 180MB, leaving a lot of room for userdata which will remain in the internal memory. This results in a lightning fast ROM which stays fast through with no lag whatsoever during market downloads etc. Add to this the cool fix from coolexe and baadnewz that creates a dynamically resizable ram-disk for market downloads: and you have a great RoM that doesn't need to waste space for cache and will never have a market download fail!]/quote]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176
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A2SD+ is a script which moves all apps you install automatically to an ext partition on your sd card. You must not do anyhting. If you use "move to sd card" in application settings, the app will be moved to fat32 partition of sd card. Android can only difference between apps in " internal memoory" and in "fat32 partition of sd card". Furthermore, with A2SD+ the dalvik-cache will be also moved to the sd ext partition on your sd card (which does not happen, if the rom is only using a2sd).
To sum it up, a2sd+ moves only apps and dalvik-cache to an ext partition on your sdcard, whereas data++ also moves some system apps to it. That's the reason why roms with data++ works with less space for internal system partition.
You can use Ubuntu to partition your sd card. If gparted is not included (I do not remember, installed ubuntu some time ago), you can download it from ubuntu software center (search for "gnome partition editor").

What do you think I should choose ?

omar93500 said:
What do you think I should choose ?
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I cannot say it, I did not employ with the advantages of each script. Compare both advantages and disadvantages, and then pick.

Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?

omar93500 said:
Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?
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No. The goldcard has nothing to do with the rom. It's only connected to sd card. You can stay with the one you have.

Thanks a lot man !!