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Uhm... Launcher2?

N1 user here, but running Desire ROM. I've noticed that ever since Paul's released alpha17--which unlike his earlier builds is based on the Desire's release candidate--there's no longer Launcher2.apk. I can clear HTC Sense's defaults and press home, but... no option to pick Launcher2. Launcher2.apk doesn't exist in the ROM. Gone. Nada. Killed in action.
Obviously, as someone who's got root and can adb push Launcher2.apk from elsewhere, this isn't an issue for me. But if the Desire also lacks Launcher2, it means you guys (until it's rooted) can't switch to vanilla Android if the fancy takes you, which is weird. So, can any of you please check if you have got Launcher2 or not?

I want to root lol.

Have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645550?
Download the zip file. Extract the launcher.apk to your sd card. Browse to the file (for example use astro) and install it. Be sure to have checked the box "Allowing unkown software installation" (or something like that).
Does this work? Shouldnt need root access.

No, no. See, I don't need Launcher2 myself and even if I did, I can manually install it. It's just that I was led to believe that the Desire itself will retain Launcher2 and switching from vanilla Android to Sense would be no different from switching between home replacements (which was the case in earlier Desire alphas).

Ah ok, I see. Misunderstood your problem. I believe that we need definitely root for the Desire, this would fix many problems...

Launcher2 can be installed without root-access, so this is no problem. You just can't push it to the /system/app folder. You can still install it, and thereby placing it in /data/app.
It makes perfectly sense that HTC removed the Launcher2.apk from the release ROM, as this is a phone with HTCs own Sense UI.
I do agree that root-access is needed, but not for this incident.

using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it

A quick question: When you use Launcher2 instead of Sense, can you still pinch to see all the pages?

Nope. You lose the ability to pinch and all HTC widgets.

Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)

irkan said:
using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it
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Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.

kasonne said:
Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.
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No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together

That doesn't work now when i try it on mine it just kicks back in using htc sense.

Guess Paul didn't take out Launcher2 from his ROM for giggles, then. I wonder if you could just install Launcher2.apk extracted from an N1 ROM normally. Probably you could.
C:Sharp! said:
Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)
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Correct; neither supports landscape mode.

irkan said:
No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together
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Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.

kasonne said:
Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.
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No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)

irkan said:
No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but launcher2 is not in the official latest desire rom.
This does not have anything to do with T-mobile.
I have seen a lot of desire phone's and none of them have the launcher2.apk.
(at least on the dutch market that is )

why don't you just install it like I did. better still install helix launcher from the market. same as launcher2 but allows placement of 4 icons level with the draw which will appear on every page
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I've tried launcher apk but it doesn't add the zooming animation that you get when you open an animation like on the nexus one. I really want that animation!

Removing parts of sense

I am getting a Desire soon and personally I would rather remove Sense UI, but this is not longer possible the easy way.
Can anyone explain if you can remove sense another way? I have heard people say to use Launcher2 or HelixLauncher to get the 3D app drawer and the nexus one launcher. Can anyone confirm this works?
Thanks!

Yep if your install either you can make them default and use them instead but it will still have the Sense theming of all the apps / status bar etc and obv the HTC widgets wont work

ok thanks or the quick reply
so if i use either of these launchers i will not be able to use HTC widgets?
and when/if the desire gets rooted i'll be able to stick a nexus one rom on?
has anyone had any experience with either of these launchers on the desire?
im new to android so i apologise for the noobish questions

Not a problem
Nope you won't be able to use the HTC Widgets... but you can launch the HTC Sense launcher at any time and get access to your widgets though it's a bit of hassle doing that everytime hence i'm gonna stick with htc sense launcher myself.
Both the nexus launcher and helix work great on my Desire, no problems as far as i've been using it.
Not sure about putting then nexus rom though, sorry

thanks for the info.
so installing launcher2 enables the 3D app drawer from the nexus one?
just to clarify lol

Yep the home screen looks like the nexus one and you get the 3D drawer with fades. It looks pretty good! I just wish the widgets still worked then it would be perfect.

thanks again for your quick reply
so where do i download this launcher 2? from the android market when i get the phone?
sorry so many questions!

Not a problem,
Helix you can get from the market but launcher2 you will need to get from somewhere else but if you search these forums you will find one you can install no problem

awesome, thanks again.
one last request: which version did you use? i've searched here and elsewhere and each version is different and im not sure which to use

I'm not sure to be honest, if you know how to check then I can tell you?

cant disable sense

Ok, I have my last minor issue to deal with I hope. HTC Sense is the only interface i can use. I tried disabling the HTC sense as default in the manage applications area then did a force shutdown of it. Pressed home and HTC sense reload automatically.
Is this apart of the update recently or I'm I missing.something ?

You can try installing Launcher Pro -- and when you hit Home it should give you a choice.

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Is this apart of the update recently or I'm I missing.something ?
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I suppose we all have to guess whether you've installed another launcher or not.

If you download home switcher you can set either one to your default.
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no sense

Hello friends!
I've just received my desire und would like to know if there's a way to uninstall
Or disable the HTC sense.
I really dislike the arced bottom with the apps, telephone and add buttons and would love to get rid of it all together.
I prefer the way Android looks on The galaxy I9000.
Can I make it happen?
Thanks ahead.
Cm

Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you

EddyOS said:
Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you
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Thanks for the quick reply. I used custom roms over two years on my x1,
But for now I would like to modify my OS without flashing a Rom.
Plus I have no computer available at the time.
So no luck?

If you'd like to change the dock bar at the bottom, try installing LauncherPro. It'll run over the top of Sense so you'll lose the Sense widgets, but I think the paid version offers similar widgets. http://www.launcherpro.com/

You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.

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You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.
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Lol'd.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?

ste1164 said:
Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?
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Well i like to choose. I thought getting rid of it is easier than adding it,
Plus this phone was cheaper for me.
As for the thread:
Using launcher pro really does it for me, so Thanks a lot.
You've helped much.

i think the "launcher pro" app is the easyest way to chance the style and its faster than sense

[Q] New HTC DHD related Questions.

Hi Folks,
I bought my First Android Phone DHD just few days back. I was looking for some stuffs like Themes(Scene and Skin) and Apps kinda stuff for my DHD(HTC desire HD) and was a bit confused.
1) where can i find HTC Skin and Scene. I have Froyo installed in it.
2) My Battery gets drained very fast. How to optimize it and make the best use out of it? Any Apps recommended or any other tweak ?
3) What are the Best Apps that one can have in DHD. Anyone that one feels is best.
4) Is anti-virus needed for a Droid DHD? if so which one would you recommended?
5) I heard a news that Gingerbread 2.3 update is going to roll out somewhere within 2nd Q of 2011. Is this news official or just some rumors?
6) In my Gtalk i cant switch between my account as i can do in my Gmail Account. How do i do so in my GTalk?
and the last one.
7) I want to install Android (and if possible latest version) on my OLD HTC P3450 Touch handset. Where can i find the best guide to do so (Step by step installation guide) and the installable files of android OS too.
I know its a lots of question. But had this from a long time. had to ask.
Hope to get replies to the earliest.
Cheers
Prateek
#HTC Desire HD

1) where can i find HTC Skin and Scene. I have Froyo installed in it.
Press in your home screen on the colour pallet icon in the right down corner
2) My Battery gets drained very fast. How to optimize it and make the best use out of it? Any Apps recommended or any other tweak ?
The first days of your your DHD will be shorter than normal. it will not be longer than 24 hours by (for me) normal usage.
3) What are the Best Apps that one can have in DHD. Anyone that one feels is best.
For me: Whatsapp, Twitter and Angry Birds
4) Is anti-virus needed for a Droid DHD? if so which one would you recommended?
No google will protect you when you only use the android market to install apps
5) I heard a news that Gingerbread 2.3 update is going to roll out somewhere within 2nd Q of 2011. Is this news official or just some rumors?
The offical rom (beta) leaked today, so i think yes
6) In my Gtalk i cant switch between my account as i can do in my Gmail Account. How do i do so in my GTalk?
Sorry don't understand what you mean...
and the last one.
7) I want to install Android (and if possible latest version) on my OLD HTC P3450 Touch handset. Where can i find the best guide to do so (Step by step installation guide) and the installable files of android OS too.
I don't think this is the correct forum for that...

psycho-mnts said:
1) where can i find HTC Skin and Scene. I have Froyo installed in it.
Press in your home screen on the colour pallet icon in the right down corner
2) My Battery gets drained very fast. How to optimize it and make the best use out of it? Any Apps recommended or any other tweak ?
The first days of your your DHD will be shorter than normal. it will not be longer than 24 hours by (for me) normal usage.
3) What are the Best Apps that one can have in DHD. Anyone that one feels is best.
For me: Whatsapp, Twitter and Angry Birds
4) Is anti-virus needed for a Droid DHD? if so which one would you recommended?
No google will protect you when you only use the android market to install apps
5) I heard a news that Gingerbread 2.3 update is going to roll out somewhere within 2nd Q of 2011. Is this news official or just some rumors?
The offical rom (beta) leaked today, so i think yes
6) In my Gtalk i cant switch between my account as i can do in my Gmail Account. How do i do so in my GTalk?
Sorry don't understand what you mean...
and the last one.
7) I want to install Android (and if possible latest version) on my OLD HTC P3450 Touch handset. Where can i find the best guide to do so (Step by step installation guide) and the installable files of android OS too.
I don't think this is the correct forum for that...
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thx psycho.
1) I didn't mean that. I meant the install file. Like urls to download more theme for my DHD. I want more theme to install in my DHD.
2) for battery thing, u suggest not to do anything and live on with what it gives?
5) official Rom? Sorry I didn't get that one. Can you please share the link that can help on it.
6) about gtalk. I hv two Google account. In gmail app I can switch from one account to another very easly. How do I do that same in gtalk app for android?
7) I know its not the right place but if u can help me with the link from where to get it, that would b helpful.
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Y don't I see any replies. Does no one has answers to my question.
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1) I didn't mean that. I meant the install file. Like urls to download more theme for my DHD. I want more theme to install in my DHD.
Look in HTC Hub
2) for battery thing, u suggest not to do anything and live on with what it gives?
There is little you can do. It's alluminum body, so you can't install a bigger battery, and the ones that claim to be the same size and greater capacity are fake.
5) official Rom? Sorry I didn't get that one. Can you please share the link that can help on it.
Look in the developement section. There are ROMs based on the leaked official 2.3 ROM. Please note that "official" means "by HTC", not "released". The leaked ROM is not ready to be released to market.
6) about gtalk. I hv two Google account. In gmail app I can switch from one account to another very easly. How do I do that same in gtalk app for android?
Can't help you with that. I don't use gtalk.
7) I know its not the right place but if u can help me with the link from where to get it, that would b helpful.
Look in the XDA forum for your phone. If there is a section called "Android Developement", you can find the ROMs there.

Regarding battery life it does get better after a few full charge/discharge cycles. A custom rom and kernel and learning to manage the battery will also help.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

dr.m0x said:
Regarding battery life it does get better after a few full charge/discharge cycles. A custom rom and kernel and learning to manage the battery will also help.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
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But still charging every night is needed unless you use your phone very rarely. Conditioning the battery and custom kernel with UV helps for the phone lasting through a heavy usage day, but unfortunately is not enough to ensure two days usage.