N1 user here, but running Desire ROM. I've noticed that ever since Paul's released alpha17--which unlike his earlier builds is based on the Desire's release candidate--there's no longer Launcher2.apk. I can clear HTC Sense's defaults and press home, but... no option to pick Launcher2. Launcher2.apk doesn't exist in the ROM. Gone. Nada. Killed in action.
Obviously, as someone who's got root and can adb push Launcher2.apk from elsewhere, this isn't an issue for me. But if the Desire also lacks Launcher2, it means you guys (until it's rooted) can't switch to vanilla Android if the fancy takes you, which is weird. So, can any of you please check if you have got Launcher2 or not?
I want to root lol.
Have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645550?
Download the zip file. Extract the launcher.apk to your sd card. Browse to the file (for example use astro) and install it. Be sure to have checked the box "Allowing unkown software installation" (or something like that).
Does this work? Shouldnt need root access.
No, no. See, I don't need Launcher2 myself and even if I did, I can manually install it. It's just that I was led to believe that the Desire itself will retain Launcher2 and switching from vanilla Android to Sense would be no different from switching between home replacements (which was the case in earlier Desire alphas).
Ah ok, I see. Misunderstood your problem. I believe that we need definitely root for the Desire, this would fix many problems...
Launcher2 can be installed without root-access, so this is no problem. You just can't push it to the /system/app folder. You can still install it, and thereby placing it in /data/app.
It makes perfectly sense that HTC removed the Launcher2.apk from the release ROM, as this is a phone with HTCs own Sense UI.
I do agree that root-access is needed, but not for this incident.
using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it
A quick question: When you use Launcher2 instead of Sense, can you still pinch to see all the pages?
Nope. You lose the ability to pinch and all HTC widgets.
Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)
irkan said:
using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it
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Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.
kasonne said:
Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.
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No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together
That doesn't work now when i try it on mine it just kicks back in using htc sense.
Guess Paul didn't take out Launcher2 from his ROM for giggles, then. I wonder if you could just install Launcher2.apk extracted from an N1 ROM normally. Probably you could.
C:Sharp! said:
Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)
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Correct; neither supports landscape mode.
irkan said:
No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together
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Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.
kasonne said:
Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.
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No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)
irkan said:
No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but launcher2 is not in the official latest desire rom.
This does not have anything to do with T-mobile.
I have seen a lot of desire phone's and none of them have the launcher2.apk.
(at least on the dutch market that is )
why don't you just install it like I did. better still install helix launcher from the market. same as launcher2 but allows placement of 4 icons level with the draw which will appear on every page
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I've tried launcher apk but it doesn't add the zooming animation that you get when you open an animation like on the nexus one. I really want that animation!
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Nice and simple this... by popular request... a Rosie remover for Hero! It simply deletes all the Rosie and widget files to return you to the 'stock' Android look. Saves you a bit of space too!
Yes, you can achieve exactly the same thing via the command prompt, this just makes it a bit easier for newbies...
This update is designed to be applied on top of a standard build, using the recovery image linked below. DO A NANDROID BACKUP FIRST!
Details and download:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/291477/13-08-1-0-modaco-rosie-remover/
Changelog
1.0
Initial Release
Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx
Okay. I might have just fudged up. I got too excited and did the update.zip *without* making a nandroid back-up..
Pure speculation, but if I decide I want the Rosie stuff back on how should I pull that off?
Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?
So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......
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Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?
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Only clearing the default will still keep the Sense UI in memory, it has its own process if you take peek with a taskmanager (I think its called TouchFlo or something). Removing it completely obviously wont have it running anymore
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So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......
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I ran the Rosie remover on my Hero and it feels a lot faster indeed. All together a more fluid experience now
Gives certificate error...
does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?
megaoptimus said:
does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?
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The apps are all there (calendar, people, mail, messages, music) and they still work
Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed
Dayzee said:
Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx
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I kinda try to keep the wiki up to date and I think I added it
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Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed
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But if you check the running processes you will se that touchflo is still running and using system resources, if I'm not mistaken it will also restart even if you kill it. To prevent that you have to either remove it or just rename the apk file.
I took the plunge and tried the rosie remover today.
And let me say that my phone is a LOT smoother and faster.
pressing 'Home' button gets the home screen much faster. Apps start faster. And I dont get the slowdown that I can get with the Rosie UI. It may not be as pretty or fancy but sometimes you just want speed.
So much so in fact that I'm going to stick with it this way for now.
I can only hope that HTC do address the lagginess of the phone in their upcoming firmware update. I'm hoping that it's down to some rushed, poor coding. Rather than the fact that our phones just arent fast enough to run all the extra processes etc involved.
Anyway, I'd recommend people try it. Do a nandroid backup first so you can go back if you want.
Thanks Paul, it does feel much snappier now.
I guess another image replacing HTC's custom apps (alarm, contact list...) with Android's default ones is not possible? What about one using the default Android theme (the orange one)?
Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?
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Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?
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Well, for one the fact that the phone is much much more responsive that way. I've been using it for several hours now and I can confirm it.
Sounds brilliant!
> What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
> Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
Thanks for releasing this - I know it's not hard to do with the terminal, but I can't be the only person who'd rather not see a command prompt on their phone. We'll be installing Linux next...
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Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
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We do.
TGAQ600 said:
What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
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We retain HTC's custom ones too. However, I just followed the instructions in this thread to install Android's stock calendar app and I'm truly bewildered how much faster and cooler it is. I'm thinking we can open a thread collecting HTC's custom files and stock Android ones, with a quick tutorial to install them?
Whats the difference between removing Rosie, and just using sommething like Home Switcher, that lets you chose which environment to use ( Android or Sense UI)?
Hi there!
I've written a FAQ with Android tips & tricks and tweaks that I try to keep updated, and when I made an attempt to turn off HTC Sense on my Desire the other day in order to get the default Android homescreen, the old method didn't work.
Clearing the defaults for HTC Sense had no effect, and Home wasn't even listed in the application manager.
Is there another way? Perhaps Sense on Android 2.1 devices goes so deep that there isn't even a vanilla Android below it anymore?
Thanks
When you say "no longer possible" are you saying you were able to do this before? From what I know Launcher2, the default 2.1 app launcher, is not installed so you have to find the apk somewhere and install that first.
When the reviewers were first getting hold of Desire's I think there was a video of someone turning off Sense and running stock Android. It was a really simple process too, from what I remember.
When the phone was officially released people noticed you couldn't do this any more.
I think that's what the OP is referring to.
HTC removed the standard Home before they shipped the Desire, so it's never been possible on post-release handsets. It was an option on pre-release phones, though, so people got videos out showing how to do it, and then no dice...
You can install HelixLauncher 2 or 1, which will give you similar homes. I'm not sure if the regular Launcher2.apk will install - I seem to remember trying it and failing. Don't recall for sure, though.
not again lol....well this has been discussed before again and again, the retail version's sense ui cannot be turned off...
Well, it can if you install a different home replacement and clear Sense's defaults.
You can install Launcher2.apk you should be able to find it in some other threads
(use the search?). I had no problems installing it.
Then do the 'clear defaults' setting on the Sense UI application, press 'home' and it will ask you which home screen you want to use.
Better still, install the Helix Launcher 2 from the Market. I prefer it because of the ability to insert 4 static shortcuts alongside the menu button where the space was just previously wasted.
On basically all android phones i have seen (that are not from htc) there is a kind of "zooming" animation when you open an app and a kind of "unzooming" one when an app closes
How can we get this on the desire?
Thanks in advance
Kris
What a coincidence that I just posted a similar thread a few hours ago
Sorry I'm a new registered user and I'm not allowed to post the URL of my post here.
You can find it in next page hopefully, but I haven't got any replies yet
If you are using the shipped ROM, I think it is just because HTC Sense UI disabled it. I feel confused because even if I flashed my phone with OpenDesire ROM, the zooming out animation is still missing while the opening zooming in animation is OK now. So I also want to know if there is way to tweak. However, I guess you will need the root access even if there is way to tweak
Suggest you guys check out LauncherPro. That supports fly-in and fly-out effects when entering and exiting applications.
Well, I know that 3rd party launcher apps can do this, but this animation should be built-in because I can see it in the SDK emulator, and also in Nexus One, so I would more like to figure out why I cannot see it in OpenDesire, and if other users can see it normally.
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Well, I know that 3rd party launcher apps can do this, but this animation should be built-in because I can see it in the SDK emulator, and also in Nexus One, so I would more like to figure out why I cannot see it in OpenDesire, and if other users can see it normally.
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exactly ... also i don't like LauncherPro
Kris
In my thread someone suggested to try Spare Parts, I installed it but I found I can only adjust the animation speed, but no switch to turn on / off a particular animation...
Pretty sure HTC turned off this pointless 'feature' in Sense...
so is there any way to turn it back on?
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I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Try them out for yourself. Personally I like the fact that custom roms have verizon bloat removed and also seem the run more smoothly. Just remember to create a Nandroid backup of your stock rom so you can go back to it whenever you want.
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I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Download ROM Manager and Titanium Back up... make a Backup of your ROM currently and try out another ROM! no harm in trying it. If you don't like it you can always go back to EXACTLY how you left it.
Anyways... every ROM has there "thing" and they usually start off as a vanilla or a sense based ROM. A ROM can be optimized to to be much snappier and even come with their own custom kernels. Don't forget that you can get better battery life! They all work with the Stock froyo radio... except maybe the Desire ROM. I think you need the latest radio leak for that one, but you can install it and mess with it... just no signal.
These devs pretty much can add, delete, and modify practically anything and everything and it seems to be ALWAYS better over stock.
Examples...
-My app drawer has added functionality now. I can uninstall apps straight from the app drawer and I can organize my apps in FOLDERS inside the app drawer so now it's not just a huge list of icons anymore.
-When adding apps to my homescreen I can change the naming convention or have no name at all!
-ROMs come with a lil "theme" to them so us users don't have to hassle with adding the mods our self.
-battery indicators
-notification drag down bar
-rosie can be different (vanilla, sense, expresso) with right button customed
-widgets can be themed to look more aesthetically pleasing
-a mix mash of vanilla and htc apps are used (best of both worlds)
-the Inc camera can be replaced with the EVO
-added Pre-Installed Apps for us (ex. wireless tether)
.....etc.
The list can go on and on. you can do a lot of this on your own but why when a dev has done it for you? and not only were they nice enough to create a nice ROM for us but they also went through beta testers to catch most of the bugs and glitches you would find if you did it yourself!
Anyways, download and flash a couple ROMs and you will never go back!
Thanks for the awesome response. I certainly would like folders in my app drawer so i didnt use a whole screen for folders. Thanks again
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His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.
fernando sor said:
His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.
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correct... those were just examples. every rom has their "advantage" over others. the custom app drawer is definitely ROM specific.
Hello friends!
I've just received my desire und would like to know if there's a way to uninstall
Or disable the HTC sense.
I really dislike the arced bottom with the apps, telephone and add buttons and would love to get rid of it all together.
I prefer the way Android looks on The galaxy I9000.
Can I make it happen?
Thanks ahead.
Cm
Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you
EddyOS said:
Super Fail of a thread...
Go check out the ROM section and you'll see plenty of non-Sense ROMs waiting for you
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Thanks for the quick reply. I used custom roms over two years on my x1,
But for now I would like to modify my OS without flashing a Rom.
Plus I have no computer available at the time.
So no luck?
If you'd like to change the dock bar at the bottom, try installing LauncherPro. It'll run over the top of Sense so you'll lose the Sense widgets, but I think the paid version offers similar widgets. http://www.launcherpro.com/
You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.
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You can use the process manager in the Astro File Manager to kill the HTC Sense process. The default android launcher should then appear on the phones "home" screen.
To get HTC Sense back, reboot your phone.
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Lol'd.
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Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?
ste1164 said:
Why did you not buy a galaxy s or a nexus one if you don't like sense ui?
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Well i like to choose. I thought getting rid of it is easier than adding it,
Plus this phone was cheaper for me.
As for the thread:
Using launcher pro really does it for me, so Thanks a lot.
You've helped much.
i think the "launcher pro" app is the easyest way to chance the style and its faster than sense