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13/08 1.0 - MoDaCo Hero Rosie Remover

Nice and simple this... by popular request... a Rosie remover for Hero! It simply deletes all the Rosie and widget files to return you to the 'stock' Android look. Saves you a bit of space too!
Yes, you can achieve exactly the same thing via the command prompt, this just makes it a bit easier for newbies...
This update is designed to be applied on top of a standard build, using the recovery image linked below. DO A NANDROID BACKUP FIRST!
Details and download:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/291477/13-08-1-0-modaco-rosie-remover/

Changelog
1.0
Initial Release

Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx

Okay. I might have just fudged up. I got too excited and did the update.zip *without* making a nandroid back-up..
Pure speculation, but if I decide I want the Rosie stuff back on how should I pull that off?

Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?

So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......

plbe said:
Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?
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Only clearing the default will still keep the Sense UI in memory, it has its own process if you take peek with a taskmanager (I think its called TouchFlo or something). Removing it completely obviously wont have it running anymore
furrypotato said:
So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......
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I ran the Rosie remover on my Hero and it feels a lot faster indeed. All together a more fluid experience now

Gives certificate error...

does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?

megaoptimus said:
does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?
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The apps are all there (calendar, people, mail, messages, music) and they still work

Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed

Dayzee said:
Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx
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I kinda try to keep the wiki up to date and I think I added it

j2kquest said:
Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed
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But if you check the running processes you will se that touchflo is still running and using system resources, if I'm not mistaken it will also restart even if you kill it. To prevent that you have to either remove it or just rename the apk file.

I took the plunge and tried the rosie remover today.
And let me say that my phone is a LOT smoother and faster.
pressing 'Home' button gets the home screen much faster. Apps start faster. And I dont get the slowdown that I can get with the Rosie UI. It may not be as pretty or fancy but sometimes you just want speed.
So much so in fact that I'm going to stick with it this way for now.
I can only hope that HTC do address the lagginess of the phone in their upcoming firmware update. I'm hoping that it's down to some rushed, poor coding. Rather than the fact that our phones just arent fast enough to run all the extra processes etc involved.
Anyway, I'd recommend people try it. Do a nandroid backup first so you can go back if you want.

Thanks Paul, it does feel much snappier now.
I guess another image replacing HTC's custom apps (alarm, contact list...) with Android's default ones is not possible? What about one using the default Android theme (the orange one)?

Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?

J-Zeus said:
Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?
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Well, for one the fact that the phone is much much more responsive that way. I've been using it for several hours now and I can confirm it.

Sounds brilliant!
> What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
> Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
Thanks for releasing this - I know it's not hard to do with the terminal, but I can't be the only person who'd rather not see a command prompt on their phone. We'll be installing Linux next...

TGAQ600 said:
Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
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We do.
TGAQ600 said:
What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
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We retain HTC's custom ones too. However, I just followed the instructions in this thread to install Android's stock calendar app and I'm truly bewildered how much faster and cooler it is. I'm thinking we can open a thread collecting HTC's custom files and stock Android ones, with a quick tutorial to install them?

Whats the difference between removing Rosie, and just using sommething like Home Switcher, that lets you chose which environment to use ( Android or Sense UI)?

Uhm... Launcher2?

N1 user here, but running Desire ROM. I've noticed that ever since Paul's released alpha17--which unlike his earlier builds is based on the Desire's release candidate--there's no longer Launcher2.apk. I can clear HTC Sense's defaults and press home, but... no option to pick Launcher2. Launcher2.apk doesn't exist in the ROM. Gone. Nada. Killed in action.
Obviously, as someone who's got root and can adb push Launcher2.apk from elsewhere, this isn't an issue for me. But if the Desire also lacks Launcher2, it means you guys (until it's rooted) can't switch to vanilla Android if the fancy takes you, which is weird. So, can any of you please check if you have got Launcher2 or not?

I want to root lol.

Have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645550?
Download the zip file. Extract the launcher.apk to your sd card. Browse to the file (for example use astro) and install it. Be sure to have checked the box "Allowing unkown software installation" (or something like that).
Does this work? Shouldnt need root access.

No, no. See, I don't need Launcher2 myself and even if I did, I can manually install it. It's just that I was led to believe that the Desire itself will retain Launcher2 and switching from vanilla Android to Sense would be no different from switching between home replacements (which was the case in earlier Desire alphas).

Ah ok, I see. Misunderstood your problem. I believe that we need definitely root for the Desire, this would fix many problems...

Launcher2 can be installed without root-access, so this is no problem. You just can't push it to the /system/app folder. You can still install it, and thereby placing it in /data/app.
It makes perfectly sense that HTC removed the Launcher2.apk from the release ROM, as this is a phone with HTCs own Sense UI.
I do agree that root-access is needed, but not for this incident.

using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it

A quick question: When you use Launcher2 instead of Sense, can you still pinch to see all the pages?

Nope. You lose the ability to pinch and all HTC widgets.

Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)

irkan said:
using the desire there is an option to disable Sense UI, and you will end-up with a N1 experience.
Programs > Unknown Sources > HTC Sense > Controls > choose stop and select "launcher" .... and thats it
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Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.

kasonne said:
Wrong! there is no Launcher app to replace Sense, so it just automatically jumps back to default.
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No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together

That doesn't work now when i try it on mine it just kicks back in using htc sense.

Guess Paul didn't take out Launcher2 from his ROM for giggles, then. I wonder if you could just install Launcher2.apk extracted from an N1 ROM normally. Probably you could.
C:Sharp! said:
Thanks.
And Sense can't work in landscape mode, right?
(and the HTC music player also?)
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Correct; neither supports landscape mode.

irkan said:
No, you're wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Amcaot1Us
if your device is crippled than thats another story all together
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Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.

kasonne said:
Me and everyone else with a released desire in that case, as also mentioned it was removed in some of the leaked ROM's previous too.
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No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)

irkan said:
No, i think this is the case only wit the T-Mobile versions (and the fake unlocked versions that also came from T-Mobile)
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but launcher2 is not in the official latest desire rom.
This does not have anything to do with T-mobile.
I have seen a lot of desire phone's and none of them have the launcher2.apk.
(at least on the dutch market that is )

why don't you just install it like I did. better still install helix launcher from the market. same as launcher2 but allows placement of 4 icons level with the draw which will appear on every page
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I've tried launcher apk but it doesn't add the zooming animation that you get when you open an animation like on the nexus one. I really want that animation!

Removing parts of sense

I am getting a Desire soon and personally I would rather remove Sense UI, but this is not longer possible the easy way.
Can anyone explain if you can remove sense another way? I have heard people say to use Launcher2 or HelixLauncher to get the 3D app drawer and the nexus one launcher. Can anyone confirm this works?
Thanks!

Yep if your install either you can make them default and use them instead but it will still have the Sense theming of all the apps / status bar etc and obv the HTC widgets wont work

ok thanks or the quick reply
so if i use either of these launchers i will not be able to use HTC widgets?
and when/if the desire gets rooted i'll be able to stick a nexus one rom on?
has anyone had any experience with either of these launchers on the desire?
im new to android so i apologise for the noobish questions

Not a problem
Nope you won't be able to use the HTC Widgets... but you can launch the HTC Sense launcher at any time and get access to your widgets though it's a bit of hassle doing that everytime hence i'm gonna stick with htc sense launcher myself.
Both the nexus launcher and helix work great on my Desire, no problems as far as i've been using it.
Not sure about putting then nexus rom though, sorry

thanks for the info.
so installing launcher2 enables the 3D app drawer from the nexus one?
just to clarify lol

Yep the home screen looks like the nexus one and you get the 3D drawer with fades. It looks pretty good! I just wish the widgets still worked then it would be perfect.

thanks again for your quick reply
so where do i download this launcher 2? from the android market when i get the phone?
sorry so many questions!

Not a problem,
Helix you can get from the market but launcher2 you will need to get from somewhere else but if you search these forums you will find one you can install no problem

awesome, thanks again.
one last request: which version did you use? i've searched here and elsewhere and each version is different and im not sure which to use

I'm not sure to be honest, if you know how to check then I can tell you?

How would I install CyanogenMOD for the TP2 Android builds

I have been using Android on my TP2 quite well. I would like to get into customization or it though and would like to figure out how to install CyanogenMOD or some other form that allows me to direct edit the android system from within the system.
This would also help the Devs I think.

electrikjesus said:
I have been using Android on my TP2 quite well. I would like to get into customization or it though and would like to figure out how to install CyanogenMOD or some other form that allows me to direct edit the android system from within the system.
This would also help the Devs I think.
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Now thats what im talkn about, pushing the limits of Android. lol im wondering the same myself. For the meanwhile u can try out either Home ++, PandaHome, Helix Launcher, or Zeam. ive tried all of those out with this AOSP build. I would recommend Zeam first then Home++ second. The Zeam UI is very customizable and i havent had a force close yet. so when i boot up android, i have the option of what UI i want to use The Standard AOSP Home, Home ++, or Zeam. also theres no slowdown when running these UI. try it out, u might like it. I got the Metamorph program but when i try to run it , it says im missing busybox. i dunno, i looked at processes and busybox is in here but not active or not being recognized. who knows..lol
im on the same note as u though, customization.

I've been trying this, unsuccessfully so far, since I got my TP2 about a month ago. It's not really documented anywhere so it's all trial and error and I haven't really found the time to work on it as much as I would like to. I was having some success mounting the data.img, pulling and pushing parts via ADB and editing the squash file. But now adb won't recognize my phone and I'm too lazy to fish out why. meh.

I noticed that Busybox was also in the file structure, just not activated. Which also means that the Android builds we have all been playing with are rooted.
I do agree with you though, Home++ or Zeam are the home screens of choice, At least until SPB MS 5 comes out. Did I see somewhere that one of the devs here on XDA made an android apk store for only XDA releases?

electrikjesus said:
I noticed that Busybox was also in the file structure, just not activated. Which also means that the Android builds we have all been playing with are rooted.
I do agree with you though, Home++ or Zeam are the home screens of choice, At least until SPB MS 5 comes out. Did I see somewhere that one of the devs here on XDA made an android apk store for only XDA releases?
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wow..i hope someone chimes in with that link..thatll be crazy ..thats cool as hell...only surf for xda apps for android wit ease. ive been using Zeam..it loads up fast and hardly any hiccups or FC's. Plus u can load any widget wit no problem. For some reason on Home ++ , certain large widgets will freeze up and wont let u put them in the trash bin at the bottom..lol and now i came across the same clock widget used in the sense that shows time and weather. so with zeam and that, ud think i had the sense version although im repping AOSP at the moment. I really wanna learn or find out how to either activate the busybox in this build or find a new, simple download. i researched some, but way too many steps and risky since this not an official rom. I b worried sometimes that messing around with the UI or hidden settings in android might mess up things on the next boot up..lmao but i already got MetaMorph, its juss waiting to be used once it recognizes busybox.

seems like a new sqsh file would have to be made by a developer mimicking cyanogen in order to "install" it

eghoti1 said:
seems like a new sqsh file would have to be made by a developer mimicking cyanogen in order to "install" it
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it would be like a custom sqsh file, kinda like a custom rom in a sense..lol that would be cool...there would have to be enuff interest in it plus be stable enuff to merge with this build. i know there has to be some kind of work around for the moment. there usually always is. ;-) i dont like the plain look of the Aosp build but its fast. so i try to find new ui or mods. which ive found out there is a ton of stuff u can do to this build thru apps juss like windows...my setup on this Aosp looks nuthn like it does when u first install it. it looks more like the Sense version. now i have it in fullscreen and that taskbar up top no longer there for that much more screen real estate..lol Zeam(ui app at the marketplace) has been wrkin pretty well for me.

Neopeek Cyanogen
Neopeek got Cyanogen working with ext2 partition

alternative
or you can use staysafe app in android to transform sqsh to ext2. it's like root, but without the ability to reboot.
So no customisations yet.

this.

Well, I have the SuperE CyanogenMod from Neopeek installed. It runs a little choppy, But FAST!! I was never able to get DATA working though. So I had to put her down until they figure out why.
I even tried a couple different zimage/modules packages for the rhodium. All but one resulted in the boot animation endlessly restarting.
I guess I still have to wait a bit.

[Q] Home screen icon names

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but I couldn't find an answer. I currently have a DHD, and several icons on the home screen do not display their names properly (Opera Mobile displays as Opera Mo, Go SMS Pro displays as Go SMS Pr, Advanced Task Killer displays as Advanced - you get the picture). What I want to know if this is an issue with the phone, if it is the developers being lazy, or if it is a general android issue, and I obviously want to know if it can be fixed. It looks amateurish.

I'd think it's a launcher issue rather than anything else. What ROM/launcher are you using?
They're fine for me on cm7 with ADW Ex, but I can't remember ever having that problem on Sense either. I could be wrong though, of the examples given I only used Opera Mobile when I was on a Sense ROM - anyone else care to check?
//Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.

Yes, it's known bug for some launchers. It can be also caused by the system font you currently use. Try to change mix for both of it.

Im just using the stock rom with HTC Sense. the device hasn't been rooted as yet I assume that I need to root the device to change the system font?

Not a bug. It is normal. It only shows the first 8 letters of the name so as not to hog up the home sreen with rediculous long names. If you ever took notice your windows computer does the same thing.

You didn't mentioned that you use the stock launcher. Thus, I'm jumping to blind conclusion. Which is also my bad. *sigh*
Yeah, only 8 characters per icon are displayed on the stock homescreen. Kinda weird, but it's normal.

Thanks for your help. Apologies for not mentioning what rom/launching I was running.
I know windows pc's do something similar, but its normally at a much longer length of text before it cuts off (probably because a pc generally has a bigger screen to display things on). Also, with the phone, you can actually see the start of the 9th charactor, so it just looks odd. Anyway, thanks for your replies, now I know that there isn't much I can do about it, I'll just have to live with it.