I am an Eris user, soon to be DINC2 owner at the end of this week. I've been reading through the threads here getting ready for my purchase and it has been very informative.
I searched the DINC2 forums and did not see this mentioned. Has anyone tried zepplinrox' V6 Supercharger script on the DINC2? I'm not going to regurgitate his post verbatim, but it is a memory optimizer. It was introduced to me over on the Eris forums, in the GSB ROM thread. It really makes a difference on the Eris, but I'm not sure how much difference it would make on the DINC2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
He also has another script called 3G Turbocharger. This will probably make a difference on the DINC2. According to zepplinrox, "the 3g script reconfigures the build.prob and kernel to change the speed settings to a better enhanced setting. Think of it like a TCP optimizer on windows." On my phone I have noticed an increase in speed surfing the web, downloading apps and in other 3g activities. It may be placebo, but it does seem faster. If nothing else, I do plan to add this to my DINC2 when I get it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15948434#post15948434
There is also a Kernel Tweaks script on the above link as well. I am using it too, but not sure what performance gains I am getting.
Per zepplinrox' post, this should work on stock and rooted ROMS.
I am by no means an expert on this, so don't shoot me if this is in the wrong forum, not valid on the DINC2, or a repost. Just trying to pass along something that works well for me.
For now those scripts are useless for phone that came preloaded with GB 2.3.3.....no root no turbo.
This sounds interesting to me, I am rooted, would it work?
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This wouldn't really benefit the Inc2. The Eris was a very memory limited device designed to run Android 1.5. Upgrading beyond this was pushing the Eris to its limits, and in some cases, beyond. Running newer versions of Android would make memory management more difficult because of the higher memory requirements and the very limited memory.
The Inc2 has one of the bigger pools of memory available for Android devices. It has 768mb of total RAM when many current generation devices are getting 512mb (others are either getting 768mb or 1gb). Unless you are running a LOT of background apps, or somehow managed to find apps that require massive amounts of memory, this is plenty of room.
What does it do? It tunes memory settings and task manager. That's pretty much it. It could have an effect on the Inc2, but I wouldn't really consider it a necessity.
Edit: BTW, my previous device was an Eris.
Well, Desire HD users with 768mb of ram enjoy improvements.
It even improves performance of an Atrix with 1gb or ram...
So it probably will help.
So "It tunes memory settings and task manager" is an understatement.
It revamps the whole memory thing
ben805 said:
For now those scripts are useless for phone that came preloaded with GB 2.3.3.....no root no turbo.
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Actually, I think these will work without root. I think the only drawback without root is the scripts do not stick on boot so you have to re-run on each boot/reboot.
nimdae said:
This wouldn't really benefit the Inc2. The Eris was a very memory limited device designed to run Android 1.5. Upgrading beyond this was pushing the Eris to its limits, and in some cases, beyond. Running newer versions of Android would make memory management more difficult because of the higher memory requirements and the very limited memory.
The Inc2 has one of the bigger pools of memory available for Android devices. It has 768mb of total RAM when many current generation devices are getting 512mb (others are either getting 768mb or 1gb). Unless you are running a LOT of background apps, or somehow managed to find apps that require massive amounts of memory, this is plenty of room.
What does it do? It tunes memory settings and task manager. That's pretty much it. It could have an effect on the Inc2, but I wouldn't really consider it a necessity.
Edit: BTW, my previous device was an Eris.
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It may not, but zepplinrox posted above about the Desire HD with similar RAM and the Atrix with more that reported improvements.
Whether you use the Supercharger script or not, the 3G Turbo is definitely worth trying. Again, it may be placebo, but I think my up/download speeds are faster after the script. Here is a post with some info on speed improvements with the script.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15959134&postcount=1139
I use the Mega memory option with the v6 script. I notice a huge difference in performance.
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Has anyone tried it on Virtuous Unity?
Stam2000 said:
Has anyone tried it on Virtuous Unity?
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I second this... I am intrigued...
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3g turbocharger didnt increase anything to my 3g speeds.
MJL99 said:
3g turbocharger didnt increase anything to my 3g speeds.
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same here. i've actually tried the v6 superchgarer and saw no improvements. actually, the only thing that happened was my battery life took a hit.
lol, well that's no good.
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Hello,
Why isnt it possible to use SDCRAM as sort of RAM in android? same as VISA/7 Using ReadyBoost to expand the ram with an USB disk on keys?
thanks!
Why would you want that?
since you only use flash based memory anyway: that's called swaping
And is Swap enabled in all froyo roms today?
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And is Swap enabled in all froyo roms today?
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But why would you need it? You have 512MB of RAM, with a clean boot you have around 200-220MB of it free for whatever you want to do with it. Not enough for you?
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But why would you need it? You have 512MB of RAM, with a clean boot you have around 200-220MB of it free for whatever you want to do with it. Not enough for you?
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won't heavy 3d games eat that?
rommark said:
won't heavy 3d games eat that?
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No. Smartphones =/= PCs. And if you are really out of space for a short amount of time, unneeded processes get killed automatically. Swap was only really needed on the G1 but definitely not on the Desire.
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won't heavy 3d games eat that?
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No, that's a bit too much even for a game... unless the code has memory leaks. With so much RAM it'd make more sense to use ramdisk (but who knows for what good use)
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No, that's a bit too much even for a game... unless the code has memory leaks. With so much RAM it'd make more sense to use ramdisk (but who knows for what good use)
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RamDisk could be insane for 3d gaming as then the textures would have fast extraction means less delay in rendering....
What Readyboost is NOT
Hey folks. I've only recently discovered Readyboost as I'm primarily a Linux guy. I got all hot and bothered about it immediately as well as it is (despite Microsofts constant onslaught of horrific failures) an absolutely brilliant and elegant technology/idea.
HOWEVER!!!
Nearly everyone is confused about what RB actually does, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain.
ReadyBoost is NOT swap. NOT SWAP!, not swap.
Swap is not something to get excited about, it is a last resort for when you're out of RAM and it's excruciatingly slow. In the land of IT, one of the first things we check for when a server is experiencing horrible performance, is "IS THIS MACHINE SWAPPING". Everyone's gotta learn that swap, while it is more useful than "not enough memory" it is nor more useful than utilizing the memory you already have, and it will always result in poor performance.
ReadyBoost is an additional disc cache for small, non-sequential reads/writes. It works with your existing FS cache but is faster in some cases because FLASH has a much lower seek time. Most FLASH chips have a seek time of <1ms while most rotational discs have a seek time of around 8ms. This adds up on a large number of small non-sequential r/w.
ReadyBoost takes any caching operations which fit it's strength profile (small, non-sequential) and offloads them to your FLASH device. This can increase load speed of some files/application dramatically (2-20x faster).
So, when someone asks you if they can use Readyboost because they don't have enough memory, please, take a moment to explain that RB is not swap, but is in fact a supplementary disc cache for small, non-sequential reads and writes.
That said, I haven't had time to dig into the question of whether or not RB would benefit Linux FS's.
I know this is a really old thread but I just wanted to put my two cents in. Memory boosting apps like ReadyBoost do have a viable purpose. That is keeping older hardware viable as minimum specs increase. There is an Android app that is equivilant to ReadyBoost called Roehsoft RAM Expander. There are mixed reviews for its performance but that is to be expected. If this app helps my aging 8227_Demo head unit work well enough for me to not replace it I will update this post.
Can anyone help me out on how to use this app?
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There is really no need for it on a device with this much RAM.
First, you need to be rooted. Then just install, set to optimum and forget about task management from now.
To the other that replied: At least, answer his question. Or explain a bit more. Or just don't post. It is not helpful to the community. Yes, it is debatable whether a Linux device with this much RAM needs to use AutoKiller. However, my phone definitely runs smoother. I know that. Also, I am a former Hero user as well.
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Coming from a hero (does need autokiller) to the EVO I can tell you it isn't needed. My EVO is bone stock and fully up to date, couldn't make it lag if I tried, free RAM is seemingly always above 130 mb.
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Coming from a hero (does need autokiller) to the EVO I can tell you it isn't needed. My EVO is bone stock and fully up to date, couldn't make it lag if I tried, free RAM is seemingly always above 130 mb.
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The stock minfree settings on the Evo are a bit higher than they were back on the Hero. Why they decided to use those old lower settings is beyond me!
Does AutoKiller do anything useful on the unrooted Evo, or should I uninstall it? Is there any similar software that can improve speed with no root access? Mine is not exactly laggy, but I would not mind if it was faster, of course.
To all developers, would this be possible on the tmo g2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864174
I know the tmo g2 has more security issues so maybe the hack won't work but it would be awesome if some devs would jump on that. Imagine the quad. scores we would get clocked @ 1.8ghz and with this mod.
Front page post:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/
They already have a 1.8 oc lol and have got 3000 quad scores just look for 2 secs you will find it
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They already have a 1.8 oc lol and have got 3000 quad scores just look for 2 secs you will find it
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I know this. Im saying imagine this mod on top of the 1.8ghz. I mean I did mention 1.8ghz in the first post?
I think this is a great idea..the first time I saw this being done was in the vibrant/galaxy s forums and they used it to get rid of the horrible lag on the vibrant...they got amazing results..I've always asked if this cud be done on other phones but I think there has been a little haterade being passed around the forums about quad scores...hating on our g2s of course : )...and wenever I asked I nvr got any feedback..I believe the best version to refer to is the z4 mod lagfix because it converts a few partitions to ext nd gives the phone an all around amazing performance boost..I hope someone gets on this asap..I'm sure it wud be great on sense roms too
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I agree. I dont know much about android development but if anyone out there is willing to do this I would be more than glad to try it out.
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I originally posted this under development and it got moved here. Devs rarely come in this sub forum to notice this. If anyone knows any of the devs involved in the g2 rooting process ask them to check those links out and see if it is even possible for us.
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Would anyone be brave enough to flash the update.zip in those threads and see if it works??? I'd do it myself if someone can confirm it wouldn't brick if I have a nandroid backup.
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ill tell you why no one cares about this, it doesnt work. you are cheating quadrant to get better results but it has only ONE real world performance boost and that was in the vibrant, captivate and the fascinate. the reason for that was they all used a slow horrid 16gb nandchip so by mounting it as a tmpfs you were able to speed it up maginally.
this phones nand is SLC which has been proven to be faster then MLC (as in the phones stated about). dont believe me? pick up the vibrant and use it right next to the epic 4g it has a onenand (SLC) and does not need a "lagfix". instead we as epic owners got a 16gb micro sdcard and 1gb of onboard..
anyways just to clarify again none of the devs care about doing this because they already knew about it. (search for cyanogen cheats quadrant on google) we all know quadrant is a broken system.
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ill tell you why no one cares about this, it doesnt work. you are cheating quadrant to get better results but it has only ONE real world performance boost and that was in the vibrant, captivate and the fascinate. the reason for that was they all used a slow horrid 16gb nandchip so by mounting it as a tmpfs you were able to speed it up maginally.
this phones nand is SLC which has been proven to be faster then MLC (as in the phones stated about). dont believe me? pick up the vibrant and use it right next to the epic 4g it has a onenand (SLC) and does not need a "lagfix". instead we as epic owners got a 16gb micro sdcard and 1gb of onboard..
anyways just to clarify again none of the devs care about doing this because they already knew about it. (search for cyanogen cheats quadrant on google) we all know quadrant is a broken system.
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This makes perfect sense, I'm not doubting your words but why are people reporting better performance on their device's if this is just cheating quadrant? They say the write speeds are much quicker which makes the performance of the device much better. I'm not trying to sound ignorant I'm just confused. Sorry =/
I just read a tweet from @cyanogen stating anyone who uses this on cm will get no support from them.
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there is no question of whether or not you will get faster write speeds as you are mounting a "fake" file system. the thing is how often do you really write to your file system? 10-20 times per couple of hours? while quadrant runs tests to see big file transfers and lots of little files, the average user does not. i would say (at least for myself) that 90% of teh phones usage is spent on reading from the file system, not writing to.
read speeds are already fast (well for a mobile device at least ) the only time that you write to your memory is installing apps and changing settings. settings i dont notice ANY lag on that, as for installing apps i would guess at best a 3-6% speedup as you are still writing to physical memory. perhaps the biggest reason why i wouldnt use this is because in order for you to use this you have to have the file system mounted somewhere.. if its mounted on board then your still reading/writing to the same chip. if your mounting it on the sd card then not only do you lose speed overall (unless its class 6 or higher) but now you lose sd card storage.
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there is no question of whether or not you will get faster write speeds as you are mounting a "fake" file system. the thing is how often do you really write to your file system? 10-20 times per couple of hours? while quadrant runs tests to see big file transfers and lots of little files, the average user does not. i would say (at least for myself) that 90% of teh phones usage is spent on reading from the file system, not writing to.
read speeds are already fast (well for a mobile device at least ) the only time that you write to your memory is installing apps and changing settings. settings i dont notice ANY lag on that, as for installing apps i would guess at best a 3-6% speedup as you are still writing to physical memory. perhaps the biggest reason why i wouldnt use this is because in order for you to use this you have to have the file system mounted somewhere.. if its mounted on board then your still reading/writing to the same chip. if your mounting it on the sd card then not only do you lose speed overall (unless its class 6 or higher) but now you lose sd card storage.
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so then i have a couple questions..if its useless why are they doing it on the nexus "thee development phone" and if its only wen u install apps or change settings..how come it also fixed homescreen lag?
i dont see how lockscreen lag would have improved, but w/e..
Yeah if you read thru the threads people are mentioning better performance almost all around. It is odd tho especially after reading your explanation.
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>.> my apologies i just read the threads, i had just figured this was the same lagfix as the vibrant etc. no in theory this would indeed work ok.. assuming your sd card is faster then your onboard storage. my class 4 16gb is clearly not
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>.> my apologies i just read the threads, i had just figured this was the same lagfix as the vibrant etc. no in theory this would indeed work ok.. assuming your sd card is faster then your onboard storage. my class 4 16gb is clearly not
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So your saying we would need a class 8 or class 10 to make this work? No need to appologize. You were just trying to clear things up for us. Surely taught me about the lagfix.
So I'm no dev. But I just got laid off of work, what are the basics needed to work on something like this? Or better yet porting it over to the htc vision?
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not work, but to be effective i would imagine that yea higher then 6 would be useful.
but i would read this article
http://www.androidcentral.com/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-phones-dying-bad-hardware-or-bad-hacks
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not work, but to be effective i would imagine that yea higher then 6 would be useful.
but i would read this article
http://www.androidcentral.com/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-phones-dying-bad-hardware-or-bad-hacks
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This has to do with the galaxy S' lag fix. It states that they have the not so best type of hardware in their phone which is one of the reasons their media card reader is failing. The only way to be sure this actually will mess our phones up is by going for it. I like to mess with anything that makes my device perform better. I honestly could care less about quadrant scores.
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they also mention that micro sd's dont like to be partitioned every which way.. (of course if this is successful then its a one time thing)
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(search for cyanogen cheats quadrant on google)
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When that is searched the first result it this thread Just sayin
(Oh and I know it probably wont boost real world performance but it has doubled there hero's quadrant score
I was wondering if we can expect a ramhack in the future or if it looks like it will never happen.
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That would be awesome. I too am intrigued by this.
is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
Ramhack?
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is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
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For me, it's not even a matter of if it's necessary, but can it be done?
Where there's a will there's a way
More is better my old nexus got 400 MB usable via ramhacks, on less optimal conditions I miss those few bytes.
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Also interested in this. Anything to increase performance, Im all for it.
Definately worth looking in to.
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is a ram hack even necessary? it certainly was with my G1 but this phone has much more ram that anything we might be able to free would be irrelevant
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I'm with you. The reason I sold my mt3g and picked up the mt4g was mainly for the extra ram. The G2 has plenty, I don't really see the need.
If I recall correctly the extra ram came at the expense of graphics and 3d. Hardly a worthwhile trade off for a device that already has plenty of ram.
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I'm with you. The reason I sold my mt3g and picked up the mt4g was mainly for the extra ram. The G2 has plenty, I don't really see the need.
If I recall correctly the extra ram came at the expense of graphics and 3d. Hardly a worthwhile trade off for a device that already has plenty of ram.
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Ya they had that ram hack and they had the one that was with the new radio which just allowed for 14 more megs to be freed without losing anything
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Ya they had that ram hack and they had the one that was with the new radio which just allowed for 14 more megs to be freed without losing anything
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The new radio is different than the old ram hack.
If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
The ram hack "stole" memory from gpu. (graphics)
The new radio/spl mapped memory that was previously unavailable in its entirety and gave us access to it.
Does that make more sense? The first is a hack/mod done by the devs here and the second is an upgrade from HTC/T-mobile.
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The new radio is different than the old ram hack.
If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
The ram hack "stole" memory from gpu. (graphics)
The new radio/spl mapped memory that was previously unavailable in its entirety and gave us access to it.
Does that make more sense? The first is a hack/mod done by the devs here and the second is an upgrade from HTC/T-mobile.
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Your right, I already knew what it was I just didnt explain it
The nexus was able to increase the ram by repartitioning its usage. Why can't we? Does anybody have a partition map saying how much ram goes to every reasource? I know 371 is not the max we can pull out.
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If I'm not mistaken I believe I saw something about memory partitions in the wiki.
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Hi, just wondering has anyone tried this yet on a DHD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276)? Seems like a sensible idea but i am no expert.
Yes, it works but it just looks like another low level memory killer tweak.
It's slightly faster with multi tasking imo
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bzzzt... Wrong...
Its more than just a memory tweak. I tried it yesterday and haven't noticed any difference but my phone is fast enough. I probably did something wrong.
This is a brilliant idea for androids with slower processors and low ram but unless you are on speed and want your phone to keep up with you, not a must have. =P
Still brilliant work from the dev. Respect.
tried on desire, i used option 2 (balanced 1 i think)
it does seem to speed things up a little. switching between apps seems a little more fluid.
what are your settings on DHD?
Don't you have more than 700mb of ram?
Use the MegaRAM 2 Option