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Easy rooting with 'Simple Root' (EVO 4G) - Also possible for Desire?

I am sorry if this should have been posted in general, but I think it has to do with development.
I just found some info about a program called 'Simple root', currently only for the Evo 4G. From what I have read it is a program to root your device with just a few clicks (so noob proof).
I wanted to notify you about this, first of all. Second, do you guys think it is possible to make something like this for the Desire? Or does the one for Evo also work for the Desire?
I am really a biiiiig NOOB regarding rooting etc, so this would be perfect for me. And I think a lot of other noobs would be happy as well.
Again, sorry if I did something wrong here (duplicate thread, wrong section, etc)
Kind Regards, Mark
Edit: THE LINK down below
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

that would be too awesome

Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
i tried 2 root my desire bt it sed it failed wot do i do
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And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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i second that

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
Seriously, come on. Making it friendly is not a bad idea. I know what I'm doing, and I'd still rather press 1 button over all other current options. It makes no difference because I had no trouble following rooting instructions from r1 up to r6. I just think simpler is better.

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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Dude, 1-click root is a better method than buying 3/4 sd cards to create a gold card. Whenever a better solution/design comes up, people leave the old stuff behind.

unclesomebody said:
Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
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maybe not this pro but if someone is rooting a phone, that person should know a little bit about what he is doing. its not rocketscience, every body can learn it, but if we start making stupid-one-klick-iam-an-idiot-rooting than no one will try to learn it.....

i agree with last post but....
nowhere in development does it even explain what things like dalvik cache or kernels actually. i reckon alot of people here into flashing and tinkering with their phones are just following instructions. ie there's a difference between a qualified mechanic and someone that messes around under the bonnet at the weekend.
in terms of rooting i found this guide the most useful, it has all the files you need and has a VIDEO walkthrough. SIMPLE really SIMPLE. requires no linux, coding or anything.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-root-the-htc-desire/

tuntang said:
nowhere in development does it even explain what things like dalvik cache or kernels actually.
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XDA is a resource, a good resource is that, but it is not complete. Even Wikipedia is not complete, if you think about it.
Copying everything to one place will just cause redundant (and possibly outdated) information. Let the people who know what they're talking about, do so (i.e. Cyanogen).
unclesomebody said:
Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
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I can't even tell if your misspelling of "kernel" is intentional.
unclesomebody said:
Seriously, come on. Making it friendly is not a bad idea. I know what I'm doing, and I'd still rather press 1 button over all other current options. It makes no difference because I had no trouble following rooting instructions from r1 up to r6. I just think simpler is better.
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So the current version is unfriendly? Another reason against making this process wholly autonomous is that you'd then have to waste someone else's time writing an application to fix the USB issues, because there's going to be people who got used to the easy of a giant button labelled "Click here to root" so now do not know what adb is.
Simplification can cause loss of information. Suppose the case comes around where the program crashes in a rare event, but the adb connection stays open. It's also far too cumbersome to catch every error, such as an invalid goldcard or the SD card being out of space. If the rooting process was a kernel exploit, this wouldn't be a problem. See below.
mr.r9 said:
Dude, 1-click root is a better method than buying 3/4 sd cards to create a gold card. Whenever a better solution/design comes up, people leave the old stuff behind.
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This is a completely different argument. You have assumed there is a 1-click rooting method available, which there isn't (yet). The only way your argument would hold is if there was a kernel exploit available currently that gave you root, but you only got it uncompiled and had to do the legwork yourself - which isn't the case. The actual argument was about converting the existing method to a few clicks as possible.

It's easy enough as is. We're not iPhone users after all, we don't need big shiny buttons to understand

starchildx said:
maybe not this pro but if someone is rooting a phone, that person should know a little bit about what he is doing. its not rocketscience, every body can learn it, but if we start making stupid-one-klick-iam-an-idiot-rooting than no one will try to learn it.....
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this is true - but there are developers and there are consumers.
anything that represents 'progress' should be seriously looked at.
I think fake-flash is just one excellent example where something that wasn't especially complicated in the first has been made way simpler.....

My reply was deleted?
Current method is easy enough. We need FULL root, easy way or not =)

cr1960 said:
this is true - but there are developers and there are consumers.
anything that represents 'progress' should be seriously looked at.
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Sure,but i think there are more important things to do than making a 1-click-root.

starchildx said:
Sure,but i think there are more important things to do than making a 1-click-root.
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There always will be something more important than something else, but it's in no way an argument against doing it.

[Q] Problem with rooting the slide with the $

so im following this guide rite here:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/16/how-to-root-the-htc-mytouch-slide-exploid-method/
and basically i have everything done
the only problem is that instead of having a "$" show up
a "#" shows up

What the hell? It seems like suddenly, in the past couple of days, everyone is trying to root their slide with old methods.
The ONLY working method as of now is nbetcher's exploid method. Look through the forum and you'll find it.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

everyone I know who tried their guide, had issues, including me. just use on of the guides here on xda. if you don't believe me, scroll to the bottom of one of the two unlockr pages on rooting this phone, and read the comments. its people whining.
Sent from my rüted T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using exdeeayy

migueltherocker said:
What the hell? It seems like suddenly, in the past couple of days, everyone is trying to root their slide with old methods.
The ONLY working method as of now is nbetcher's exploid method. Look through the forum and you'll find it.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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tried using a few of the guides on here too
same issue
point me in the direction to a good guide?

JDV28 said:
everyone I know who tried their guide, had issues, including me. just use on of the guides here on xda. if you don't believe me, scroll to the bottom of one of the two unlockr pages on rooting this phone, and read the comments. its people whining.
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You know why that is? Because I didn't make the guides for 5 year olds. I'm sorry, but if you don't understand some implied things (like having to install the Android SDK and make sure your paths to its tools directory are correctly setup, or having the files extracted in the right place when you 'adb push', not to mention typing things correctly) then you probably don't deserve to have a rooted phone. My guide is not intended to allow your 5 year-old child root your phone, it is intended for people who have enough knowledge to understand the concept to complete the root process and potentially learn more.
I'm sure everyone except the elitists will think that I'm an arrogant a*s hole. Truth is you won't learn anything if you don't figure things out for yourself. Plus some people root so they can Wifi tether - a practice that if you do not have enough understanding of technology to root your own phone could lead to you abusing the carrier's network.
Finally, we're here in this forum as developers in order to collaborate together amongst one another about constructing ROMs, developing software, learning, and unlocking the phone's full potential. What we're not here for is: troubleshooting users' phones, making a statement against T-Mobile/HTC by helping every user root their phone, or ridding the world of hunger.
Over the past couple months I have been (very) slowly working on a detailed guide, but the problem is that no matter how simple I make it people will still manage to fsck it up. Making a perfect guide is a long and difficult task. Ideally though we won't need it soon since AlphaRev will be coming out with a utility to S-OFF automatically.

do you have an ETA on that?

Subu said:
do you have an ETA on that?
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The topic is stickied - I guess that shows that no one looks at sticky posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798168

nbetcher said:
You know why that is? Because I didn't make the guides for 5 year olds. I'm sorry, but if you don't understand some implied things (like having to install the Android SDK and make sure your paths to its tools directory are correctly setup, or having the files extracted in the right place when you 'adb push', not to mention typing things correctly) then you probably don't deserve to have a rooted phone. My guide is not intended to allow your 5 year-old child root your phone, it is intended for people who have enough knowledge to understand the concept to complete the root process and potentially learn more.
I'm sure everyone except the elitists will think that I'm an arrogant a*s hole. Truth is you won't learn anything if you don't figure things out for yourself. Plus some people root so they can Wifi tether - a practice that if you do not have enough understanding of technology to root your own phone could lead to you abusing the carrier's network.
Finally, we're here in this forum as developers in order to collaborate together amongst one another about constructing ROMs, developing software, learning, and unlocking the phone's full potential. What we're not here for is: troubleshooting users' phones, making a statement against T-Mobile/HTC by helping every user root their phone, or ridding the world of hunger.
Over the past couple months I have been (very) slowly working on a detailed guide, but the problem is that no matter how simple I make it people will still manage to fsck it up. Making a perfect guide is a long and difficult task. Ideally though we won't need it soon since AlphaRev will be coming out with a utility to S-OFF automatically.
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This. 10char

Subu said:
so im following this guide rite here:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/16/how-to-root-the-htc-mytouch-slide-exploid-method/
and basically i have everything done
the only problem is that instead of having a "$" show up
a "#" shows up
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You might try reading the thread with the original slide root method in it. Eugene wrote it I believe -it will show you why the '#' is showing up. You'll be pissed you ever asked this question Though I'm not sure how you got it since that method, from what I've read, doesn't work.

should i root my phone?

i don't know whether i should root my phone because i am afraid of bricking it, but there are too much limitations with unrooted phone.

It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.

Hawks556 said:
It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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im not sure coz i updated my software directly from htc and idk can it be rooted without any probs. which guide do you recommend?

Tell us your build number. It is in settings-about-software information. Then ppl can tell you what to do next.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

In case you're not sure, you can check your build number through...
Setting >> About Phone >> Software Information.
=)

Stock rom Android 2.2.1
Build no.
1.84.707.2 CL335251 release-keys
Software no.
1.84.707.2

Then start from the Downgrade guide
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Erm, how? Please teach me step by step pls. I really know nothing.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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No offense, but you need a little knowledge to root and flash a custom rom. This isn't meant for the average user. It feels like everyone who gets an android phone nowadays (as it's becoming a more popular OS) want's to root and flash a custom rom as soon as they have in their hands without even knowing what it really means. The information to do all this is available here on this forum in form of guides which in most of the cases are quite extensive. If you want to root and flash a custom rom etc, you will have to do some reading on your own.
AFAIK this forum isn't here to hold the hands of android virgins as they try modify their phones without even knowing what a command prompt is. Almost every day someone new wants step by step instructions for this and for that even though there are good instructions out there. This forum is meant for people with some experience and knowledge that want to get the most out of our phones. New members are ofcourse welcome, but please, do some studying on your own too.

I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.

Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up

Hi ghostofcain
I hope you do not take offence to my reply.
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Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
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I think you will find naomispoon has managed to ROOT the device.
naomispoon said:
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
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They say:- I havent regretted doing it.
Take Care
TheQuest

I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.

Hi Grant Barker
Grant Barker said:
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
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Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest

Best thing i ever did. I had a jailbroken iphone before i got my Desire HD so rooting was the first thing i looked at when i got my HD, getting rid of the branding was the main reason but then i realized how many Roms were out there and now its hard to choose which one to use :

@I'm TheQuest
I think ghostofcain was talking about the OP...

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Grant Barker
Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
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Thanks very much.

There's a lot of changes and benefits if you root your phone and install a custom ROM... First, there are a lot of custom ROMs, for any taste. MIUI imitate the iOS system, with the liberty of Android OS, for example, and RevoHD leave the original SENSE ROM, with improvements of course.
Then, custom ROMs have some interesting tweaks, like zipalign, the ads removing and a better management of the RAM.
To finish, I did it myself (running the MIUI ROM by Rey) and I have no regrets. After reading a few tutorials it was easy as ABC !
Like it was said before It's up to you, I dont intend to convince anyone, but If you wanna do it, go doing some searches. This forum has some tutorials, and anyone, even a noob can understand them.

jkoljo said:
I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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hey there, i followed your guide but i keep failing. help pls.

EASY way to ROOT (JUST ROOT) Droid Incredible?

Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)

What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.

Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.

if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....

insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)

[Q] Clarifying the rooting process for beginners?

First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?

Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.

Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck

Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.

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Craiglivesey94 said:
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
Craiglivesey94 said:
... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
Craiglivesey94 said:
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.

If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued

I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?

I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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