Desire z or desire HD? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I am looking at purchasing one of the two which do you think is a better buy?
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Desire HD is (slightly) more powerful, Desire Z has a keyboard... there you go!
All preference at this point, if you don't need the hardware keyboard, get the desire hd.
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Up to priorities. I can't live without the hardware keyboard, I don't find writing on touch screen very comfortable, so I took the Desire Z ) but I don't like the poor sound / low ringer on the Dezire Z. Hardly can hear when ringing outside and constantly looking for an application to fix this.
Hope other HTC don't have this problem.

redshoes said:
Up to priorities. I can't live without the hardware keyboard, I don't find writing on touch screen very comfortable, so I took the Desire Z ) but I don't like the poor sound / low ringer on the Dezire Z. Hardly can hear when ringing outside and constantly looking for an application to fix this.
Hope other HTC don't have this problem.
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You can fix the sound quality on Desire Z with different apps and even boost the volume. The European Desire Z's had an audio level restriction placed on them. Depends what ROM you are running to know which application would work for you...
This search brought quite a few results...
As for HD vs Desire Z, there isn't much difference except the obvious.

DHD has more RAM, it can run the new sense 3.0 ROM's a lot better than the DZ.
As people have said what it really comes down to is do you need the hardware keyboard or not?

Neither. Both are pretty old at this point, getting close to a year for both. That's pretty long in the tooth in smartphone terms, and its hard to justify buying either new at this point, with better options available. Depending on your market, I'd get a Sensation, if its available in your market. If you really need the hardware keyboard, and can get a good deal, get the Z. Otherwise I would wait and see what else is coming that may have a keyboard.

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You can fix the sound quality on Desire Z with different apps and even boost the volume. The European Desire Z's had an audio level restriction placed on them. Depends what ROM you are running to know which application would work for you...
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I'm using Virtuous Doubleshot v1.1.0 RC1 Sense 3.0 Espresso rom and Unity v 4 kernel. I installed volume plus a month ago which was pointed to work with android 2.3.3 but I don't see any difference. Thanks for the answer.
offwiththeface, sorry for discussing this in your topic.

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[Q] HTC tuch HD to HTC Desire HD

Hello,
I currently own a HTC Touch HD and I hate it with a passion. It is slow, bugy, the screen goes from to sensitive to unresponsive is a millisecond so it is nealry impossible to scroll down the contacts without picking the wrong one or flying past the one you want etc. When I first got it I had a lot of problems with it connection to the 3G all by itself although that is mostly under control now. I have no real issues with the Windows operating system but it is clearly out of date these days.
My question is the Desire HD everything that my Touch HD wasn't? Is is quick, smooth, easy to use and so? Is the touch screen on a par with an IPOD Touch?
Please help as I dont know whether HTC are bad or just that I had a bad phone?
Has anyone bought phones from these guys as they seem cheap enough?
simplyelectronics.net
(I cant post links yet)
I changed from the Touch HD and can honestly say its a completely different experience - I continue to be blown away by my Desire HD.
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This phone is great, but I'm starting to consider htc as a bad company. I don't like the way they keep blocking the root exploits. As much as I love the sense ui, I will probably start buying nexus phones from now on unless htc want to allow rooting.
If you do decide to buy, at least try and get a phone with 1.32 firmware so you can root it.
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I am a beginer at all this technical stuff, what exactly is rooting and why would I want to do it?
Wardy257 said:
I am a beginer at all this technical stuff, what exactly is rooting and why would I want to do it?
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Google it as "What is Android rooting". Briefly it provides you to have SuperUser access on the phone and install custom ROM, some spesific apps etc...
Firstly I recommend you to read much and gain information about Android platform then you operate on the phone. I have read forums approx. 1 month before I buy an Android phone.
I upgraded from the Touch HD to the Desire HD too and I will never look back!
My only concern is that a normal desire would have been enough due to the smaller size and better battery life. I've yet to reach 48 hours on one charge with minimal usage...and I don't make many calls!
Hello I had a Touch HD, and now Desire HD. I like my touch hd, but desire is much more better.
Only one thing i missed. I have logitech bluetooth handsfree and it doesnt work with desire. It works perfect with touch hd....
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Desire HD or Desire Z?

I got a regular Desire right now and I am into buying a new phone. Desire HD or Z? I cannot decide. I can say that I like to watch movies on my phone, watch youtube, browse the internet and stuff like that. I can't say I'm the person who uses sms alot, but it happens when I feel like it.
So now you probably think, just get the HD then. But why? Give me your thoughts please.
Personally, the Z feels cheap
I'd wait a month or so and see what new ones comes out
I just upgraded my desire to a DHD, overall the device is excellent, there is a few minor flaws though like, the battery and sim card covers being badly designed and feel low quality compared to the excellent build quality of the rest of the device.. also if you have an amoled desire like i had, you will really notice a diffrence in the screen. Apart from that its awsome, and the multitouch actually works :-D
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DHD is much better...
justinjustin234 said:
DHD is much better...
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and your opinion is based upon what experiance? If you havnt used both devices you cant say which is better- unless you just think that the screen is what makes the differance, not for all my friend.
I havn't used the DHD or the DZ, however, looking at the development section, I'd much rather go fot the DZ as the drivers the phone has are just unbelievebly amazing- overclock yp to 2.2Ghz, from a 700Mhz at stock! :O Thats more than 3 times the stock clock speed!
Yes the DHD has an amazing screen, shame not Amoled, but you know, the SGS
Im not goin into much detail on the DHD because I simply dont know much about it..
I'd go for the DZ purely because of the drivers and the hardware keyboard, but thats just me.. make up your own opinion based on what you want to do in terms of the development and what you want to use it for- if you dont like the device, you will only have yourself to blame, not others that havent even touched the phone
Hope this helps!
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the Device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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Desire Z has Sense UI 2.0 too..
And although it does have a slower clock speed at stock- theres always SetCPU- and root for the new update!
The DHD has got a newer version of our Snapdragon 8250 to 8255 which does have new drivers, but overclock only up to 1.5Ghz.. The screen is LCD so yeah, not very efficient
I just hope they implement Sense 2.0 on Desire. I must have that remote lock&wipe thingy
I'm not sure you would want to overclock the descendant of the device who already had poor battery performance, just this comes with moar inferior battery, better CPU(more instructions, could be more efficient?) and 0.6" larger screen.
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To be honest guys, I bought an iPhone 4 just because of the fact that I ain't that much of a poweruser anymore. I never rooted my Desire but still used it regularly with Android IRC, MSN Talk, Rockplayer and stuff like that. So I bought an iPhone 4 just because of it's simplicity and that I don't demand much from my phone. And yes, every Android phone with Froyo is better than the iPhone 4.
DZ weighs a tonne, and the keyboard is a bit dodgy - DHD gets my vote
erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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The information here is so wrong. Im using a G2 the American version of the Desire Z. CPU is a upgrade from the Desire, Desire uses a first generation Snapdragon and the Desire Z uses the second generation Snapdragon CPU. Clock speed doesnt matter here, I can tell you my device keeps up or even surpasses the Desire HD when clocked in the same range (its basically a underclocked version of the CPU in the Desire HD). You clock a Desire Z to 1ghz and Im pretty sure it will keep up with a stock Desire HD and benchmark in the same range. And the difference between 576MB ram in the Desire and 512mb in the Desire Z will not make a difference. Im not sure what GPU the Desire uses but the Desire Z uses the same GPU found in the Desire HD, the new Adreno 205.
Desire Z and HD are a superior device compared to the Desire, besides arguably the screen. Ill give the edge slightly to the Desire HD over the Desire Z but performance wise they are in the same range.
Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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erklat said:
Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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The RAM size would probably make a difference between the Desire HD and Desire Z but not the Desire Z and Desire. The difference is too small to be substantial in day to day use. I can tell you from day to day usage I have no slowness, lag, or problems with my G2. Go read any review on the Desire Z, they always mention how fast the device is and that is stock. Its probably aided by how efficient the second generation Snapdragon really is and utilizes the ram..

[Q] New phone (Desire Z or Desire HD or HD2)

Hey XDA
Im thinking about getting a new phone but i don't know what one really
Parallel imported Desire Z
Ebay T-mobile G2
Parallel imported Desire HD
Parallel imported HD2
And i dont know what one pro's and cons if possible will be planning to root
hey matey,
if your in the us and dont mind going with tmobile.. id go with the g2.
the difference between desire z and g2 is that the g2 has 4gb of rom for apps but it doesnt have as many signal bands so it can only be used in the us. the desire z only has 1gb rom for apps but has almost all the bands for abroad use.
the HD2 seems to have better battery life but android doesnt run 100% yet.. ive just come from the hd2 to the desire z and personally there's not much difference but the desire Z and HD and G2 have updated tech in them over the HD2 which is understandable.
the Desire HD is much like the hd2 only it has the worst battery life out of all the handsets listed. but it has an extra 256mb of ram over the Desire z and g2 which have 512 mb
the desire z and g2 have second gen snap dragon processors running at 800mhz but they can be overclocked safely to 1.43
the desire hd and hd2 both share the first gen snap dragon processor running at 1ghz i *think*
it all depends on these:
do you want good battery life
do you want to use it out of the US
do you want to have a qwerty keyboard
i have the UK desire z and love it.. ive had no problems with it, the hinge is a tiny bit loose but its meant to be, its very strong though. ive got 50apps installed and still have 900mb out of the 1gb. battery life is around 30hours dependant on usage and ive got the benifit of the qwerty keyboard.
my vote is go for the G2 if your in the US
hope this helps matey
leehopley said:
the difference between desire z and g2 is that the g2 has 4gb of rom for apps but it doesnt have as many signal bands so it can only be used in the us. the desire z only has 1gb rom for apps but has almost all the bands for abroad use.
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both have 2gig storage pal. T-mobile lied.
The Missing 2GB
fair enough then i never knew that (Y) cheers
well i would go with the desire z then, as it has the advantage of all bands
however if u want to mod the phone as much as possible the hd2 has the most development currently with wm6.5 android and windows phone 7
but i preffer android with a qwerty
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the HD2 seems to have better battery life but android doesnt run 100% yet..
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Not true. Coming from the HD2 myself, I can say that the HD2 can run Android 200%. There are SO many developers over there and they even got a very stable port of CM7 (with some customizing) way before RC1 was even released. Battery life is amazing on the HD2, seemingly unbrickable and you couldn't go wrong choosing it.
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fair enough then i never knew that (Y) cheers
well i would go with the desire z then, as it has the advantage of all bands
however if u want to mod the phone as much as possible the hd2 has the most development currently with wm6.5 android and windows phone 7
but i preffer android with a qwerty
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I second that. I'd get a HD 2 myself if I wasn't so dependent on the kb. Dz all the way for me.
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I live in new zealand so does it matter if its parallel imported?
oh im not knocking the HD2 i had one for over a year, its an amazing phone... but if you want the qwerty board then the desire z or g2 is the android phone for you
hd2 is the best if you want to mod it the most... as i said, it has the most development focus at the moment.
the one thing i didnt like about it was the lack of rom memory, unless its the 1gb tmob edition, although you could use apps2sd to get around this !!
it all depends what you want out of a phone.. for the best phone that can run all the differend mobile os platforms.. HD2, for a mobile thats stable, has decent hardware and has a qwerty then the desire z or g2 if the phone for you... i dont see a slot for the desire hd really... i believe the hd2 is far better than the desire hd as it has more development around it
battery life with my desire z is around 30 hours... with my hd2 i easily got 48
choice is yours (Y)
leehopley said:
oh im not knocking the HD2 i had one for over a year, its an amazing phone... but if you want the qwerty board then the desire z or g2 is the android phone for you
hd2 is the best if you want to mod it the most... as i said, it has the most development focus at the moment.
the one thing i didnt like about it was the lack of rom memory, unless its the 1gb tmob edition, although you could use apps2sd to get around this !!
it all depends what you want out of a phone.. for the best phone that can run all the differend mobile os platforms.. HD2, for a mobile thats stable, has decent hardware and has a qwerty then the desire z or g2 if the phone for you... i dont see a slot for the desire hd really... i believe the hd2 is far better than the desire hd as it has more development around it
battery life with my desire z is around 30 hours... with my hd2 i easily got 48
choice is yours (Y)
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I have to get it parallel imported from hong kong does that matter ?
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I have to get it parallel imported from hong kong does that matter ?
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Update just brought a desire Z because of the keyboard
good choice man! if you need any help rooting, flashing, installing clock work mod and anything else, ill be happy to help !!
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good choice man! if you need any help rooting, flashing, installing clock work mod and anything else, ill be happy to help !!
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Thanks i will take you up on that offer soon
no problem ive accepted your frend request so if u need me just message
I have a HD2 and I want a Desire Z so bad.
They keyboard and next gen snapdragon. Anybody wanna trade?
Btw, the HD2 is semi-bricked (possibly).
Just rooted using gfree and now I'm running ginger villian!!! Overclocked to 1.5 ghz too
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NICE man!!!!
how is the ginger villian? is it stable and whats the battery life like?
and skelly, how did you brick the hd2?!!!
have you got clockwork installed?

[Q] Desire vs Desire Z vs Desire HD vs Desire S

Which one of the four Desires is best?
HTC Desire or HTC Desire S or HTC Desire HD or HTC Desire Z?
Comparison table drawn here: http://www.geekword.net/htc-desire-s-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z-vs-htc-desire/
Personal preferences except for the normal desire, that one is old.
If you want big screen HD.
If you want physical keyboard Z.
No keyboard and 4" to big S.
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both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)
Desire S for me...i've had the Bravo since it was released and i still love it (i also had the Desire Z for a few weeks)
4.3" screens are too big for girl's hands, so if i were to upgrade it would be to the Desire S for the ff camera and more RAM
I really want a physical keyboard. So I guess than Desire Z is for me. My gf has HTC Evo Shift 4g (HTC Knight). Its the same screen size, but has a slide out keyboard. Perfect!
Unfortunately, although my carries has great service and price, it sucks at bringing new phones to customers. After all we did not get the Desire until late August 2010.
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I really want a physical keyboard.
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i found the Desire Z way too heavy
I just wish that the original Desire had more internal memory (and maybe a tad more ram)
the S's non-physical keys is a shame - but the S / Original for me.
front facing camera i can live without as I never used it on the Blackstone
Desire s i think
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both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)
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I would vote for Desire S. It's screen is smaller than HD's, but it has the same pixel count, so the images will look better. It also has front camera, which will be useful in near future. The hardware in both phones is the same, but since S is newer, it may be longer supported by HTC.
If there is a senseles phone, it is Incredible S, which is Desire HD with front camera and doesn't worth its money.
I actually bought the original Desire a month ago and I can honestly say its the best thing I have ever had. Even though its a year old now, its still awesome. I even flashed it with the latest RCMIX HD rom so it now has all the features of the desire hd, plus its literally twice as fast. I also repartitioned the sd card, so the internal storage is like 800MBs.
To be honest, I checked the other phones before I bought this one, and I found the HD too big and expensive, and didn't like the keyboard of the desire Z. As for the S model, it doesn't seem to be anything special with the fact that its expensive too.
So if you're looking for the right sized phone and don't want to spend big bux yet still have a beast in your hands, the original desire is the way to go. Remember, as long as you can flash it, you'll never miss all the fun of the new phones.
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i have original desire.. what i miss the most is proper multitouch. .apart from that it is great.. perfect weight and size! htc desire hd is too big imo.. if you want keyboard get the desire z but heard it's a bit heavy... i would recommand desire s
Just buy the mobile what you think is the best for you.
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I still have old desire. I`m thinking that i would be missing trackball in other desires
Yup I like the optical trackball too. Bear in mind that desire's multitouch is not good at all.
Desire is my choice, have one for alomost half a year now and I am super happy with it. Didn't test desire s and z, but I test HD one, and I don't like him at all, a little bit new software then desire but very clumsy made, and it's too big to put him in normal pockets, only if you are rapper and have that big pockets.
In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
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The original desire wins for me . I'm due an upgrade , so i decided to be brave and try rooting it and flashing a new rom , now i don't need a new phone . It's opened a whole new fun world .
desire hd if you like the size
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In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
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not holding out for the Sensation?
If my Desire/Bravo had proper multitouch support and an hdmi out I'd keep it for another 2-3 years..
Pleased as punch with the orignal desire, came to it from the blackstone.
Yes a faster processor would be nice, yes being able to play PSP quality games would be nice but ulitmatley its a phone and web browser which desire 1 does well.
I don't think I'll be getting the itch to change phones until battery life under load is measured in days not hours and OTA data network infrastructure improves and by that I mean High speed (3.5 and 4G) coverage and cost.
Google maps is a toy, it would be great to use when abroad in foreign cities but at £3-8 per MB its unusable.
One example I have is when I got lost in geneva, was in a rush and nobody was around to ask for directions so I fired up data roaming to quickly find out where I was - I had satelight view with a couple of layers as well still set from wehn I use it at home - £5! for about 1minutes usage!!!!

[Q] Should I buy the HTC Desire Z or a newer phone?

I have the HTC Wildfire S but I am thinking of buying the Desire Z because the screen on my phone is too small to text! The buttons are so small. I have tried the Desire Z and like the physical keyboard. But I'm not sure if it's good enough for fast typing?
But maybe since newer android phones are bigger it would be just as easy to type on an on screen keyboard just as a physical keyboard? They don't make many physical keyboard anyway nowadays. I would like an HTC or Samsung.
So should I get the HTC Desire Z, or get a newer HTC phone with just an on screen keyboard?
How good is the physical keyboard?
How good is the on screen portrait keyboard?
how good is the on screen landscape keyboard?
Thanks
The screen on the Z isn't that much bigger, so I don't know if you'd be able to type any better/faster on the screen than the Wildfire S. But the physical keyboard is very good. Not actually as good as older HTC phones, like the Touch Pro 2. The keys could stand to protrude a bit more, and press down farther. And the lack of dedicated number row is also a step backward. But still very good compared to keyboard from other manufacturers. Typing is definitely faster on the Z's physical keyboard than on the virtual keyboard, and probably rivals or beats virtual keyboards on bigger screened phones.
Have you tried the Swype keyboard on your Wildfire S? I pretty much can't stand typing on-screen without Swype, which makes it more bearable. Get Swype by going to their website and signing up for the beta:
http://beta.swype.com/
As for opinions on whether to buy the Z or not, there is another recent thread, with plenty of responses/opinions for you to consider:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566749
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The screen on the Z isn't that much bigger, so I don't know if you'd be able to type any better/faster on the screen than the Wildfire S. But the physical keyboard is very good. Not actually as good as older HTC phones, like the Touch Pro 2. The keys could stand to protrude a bit more, and press down farther. And the lack of dedicated number row is also a step backward. But still very good compared to keyboard from other manufacturers. Typing is definitely faster on the Z's physical keyboard than on the virtual keyboard, and probably rivals or beats virtual keyboards on bigger screened phones.
Have you tried the Swype keyboard on your Wildfire S? I pretty much can't stand typing on-screen without Swype, which makes it more bearable. Get Swype by going to their website and signing up for the beta:
http://beta.swype.com/
As for opinions on whether to buy the Z or not, there is another recent thread, with plenty of responses/opinions for you to consider:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566749
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I have already read that thread. I'm still unsure. It the Desire Z fast? Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
By the way, my Wildfire S does not have Swype
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I have already read that thread. I'm still unsure. It the Desire Z fast? Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
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Define "fast". Its a phone that is about a year and a half old. Its acceptable for most tasks. And with the right ROM and overclocking, it can be made to perform smoother. But its starting to show its age versus the 1.5 GHz multicore flagship phones coming out now. And the One X looks like it may redefine tasks and blow away even the phone currently on the market.
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Dolphin2 said:
Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
By the way, my Wildfire S does not have Swype
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Well, I've already mentioned that I have to use Swype, otherwise screen keyboards drive me crazy. And I'm on CM7 right now, so I can't tell you much about the stock Sense screen keyboard. It works well enough, from the times I've used it. But I tend to make lots of typos on this size screen.
If you mean that the Wildfire S is not supported by the Swype beta, then there are plenty of similar apps available. Or more recent HTC firmware (and custom ROMs) contains HTC Trace, which is their Swype clone.
You have 2 choices get a galaxy nexus or wait it out til HTC announces a qwerty device whenever that may be.
Vision is really fun to upgrade it and change roms and the other things... Its fun to wait for those fully working ICS roms, to dream about stable sense 4.0 roms, flash kernels, radios, mods... If I would buy a Nexus, it wouldnt be such a great experience. I would just download some apps and maybe root it...
Anyway Im very satisfied with Vision and I will change it only, when it gets really weak behind the newest devices. Kinda like wildfire now... Not the wildfire S
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How good is the physical keyboard?
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Physical keyboard is for me very good, no typo errors when typing, big enough. And with beta.swpe.com I use, it is for me sufficiently good combination for daily drive.
tarroyo said:
You have 2 choices get a galaxy nexus or wait it out til HTC announces a qwerty device whenever that may be.
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Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.
redpoint73 said:
Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.
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I'm also on a bit of a budget. In Canada (where I live), Bell does not longer sell the Derise Z. I found one being sold online for $200 in my area. I will either buy the Desire Z or get something like the HTC One X once my contract is up in 2 years. Also, I was looking at the Samsung Captivate Glide as a very good up to date phone with a physical keyboard.
redpoint73 said:
Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.
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Reason I said that is because One X comes with sense preinstalled, Our vision devices did not.
For me I think if u r going to mainly use the phone to send emails, sms .... Desire z is the best choice to go with. If ur focus is on browsing, games,music I think u should go with a newer version like htc one
Sent from my HTC Desire Z A7272 using XDA
I love my g2. It's much easier to send thoughtful emails/texts than any other phone out there. The hercules is the obvious replacement phone at the moment, though.Rocking em both.
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For me I think if u r going to mainly use the phone to send emails, sms .... Desire z is the best choice to go with. If ur focus is on browsing, games,music I think u should go with a newer version like htc one
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My main use is for sending emails and SMS.
Buy it if you like to type much and in a comfortable way
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Reason I said that is because One X comes with sense preinstalled, Our vision devices did not.
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As your Vision didn't come with Sense: did you buy it as a G2? I've read that they just feature the stock Android interface. Anyways, my Desire Z had Sense preinstalled.
To answer the OP's questions:
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So should I get the HTC Desire Z, or get a newer HTC phone with just an on screen keyboard?
How good is the physical keyboard?
How good is the on screen portrait keyboard?
how good is the on screen landscape keyboard?
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1st question: The only on-screen keyboard I can imagine to reach half the typing comfort of the Desire Z's physical keyboard is the Galaxy Note's one. But to lead to the
2nd question: The physical keyboard is quite comfortable and the keys are perfectly arranged for my (medium sized) hands.
3rd question: If you mean the Desire Z's on-screen keyboard - install a different one! The stock Sense keyboard is quite slow compared to the stock Android one. I also prefer Swype for daily use but the Sense one is definitely not optimal. If it comes to typing comfort itself - the on-screen keyboard is good for one-hand typing if you really have to or are just too lazy to "slide" out the physical keyboard.
4th question: If you mean the Desire Z's on-screen keyboard - one-hand typing -> portrait on-screen keyboard | two-hand typing -> physical keyboard (no need to use a landscape on-screen keyboard )
As much as I love my Desire Z, I can definitely tell it's getting dated.
If possible, I would suggest you find a phone with perhaps a bigger screen (for your typing/texting needs) and with a newer processor. With some more intensive tasks or games, the desire Z definitely shows its age.
Although, I understand that you have a budget, and if you cannot find something dual core, you are probably very well off with a Desire Z.
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With some more intensive tasks or games, the desire Z definitely shows its age.
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That's true but
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My main use is for sending emails and SMS.
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So I think that the OP will not have much of a problem with performance
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The keyboard is very easy to use. I have my phone ever since it first came out in the US. I have used the phone so much I can text with it without looking at the keyboard.
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As your Vision didn't come with Sense: did you buy it as a G2? I've read that they just feature the stock Android interface. Anyways, my Desire Z had Sense preinstalled.
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I did, In the U.S our Vision devices are stock android.
The HTC One X looks very nice and I can imagine that it will be touting a hefty price tag when available. I currently have a G2 which I am very pleased with, for the most part. Typing emails and text is very fluid and fast but I am asking for more (especially for browsing and gaming).
I guess I need to start saving my pennies.

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