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Desire HD or Desire Z?

I got a regular Desire right now and I am into buying a new phone. Desire HD or Z? I cannot decide. I can say that I like to watch movies on my phone, watch youtube, browse the internet and stuff like that. I can't say I'm the person who uses sms alot, but it happens when I feel like it.
So now you probably think, just get the HD then. But why? Give me your thoughts please.

Personally, the Z feels cheap
I'd wait a month or so and see what new ones comes out

I just upgraded my desire to a DHD, overall the device is excellent, there is a few minor flaws though like, the battery and sim card covers being badly designed and feel low quality compared to the excellent build quality of the rest of the device.. also if you have an amoled desire like i had, you will really notice a diffrence in the screen. Apart from that its awsome, and the multitouch actually works :-D
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DHD is much better...

justinjustin234 said:
DHD is much better...
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and your opinion is based upon what experiance? If you havnt used both devices you cant say which is better- unless you just think that the screen is what makes the differance, not for all my friend.
I havn't used the DHD or the DZ, however, looking at the development section, I'd much rather go fot the DZ as the drivers the phone has are just unbelievebly amazing- overclock yp to 2.2Ghz, from a 700Mhz at stock! :O Thats more than 3 times the stock clock speed!
Yes the DHD has an amazing screen, shame not Amoled, but you know, the SGS
Im not goin into much detail on the DHD because I simply dont know much about it..
I'd go for the DZ purely because of the drivers and the hardware keyboard, but thats just me.. make up your own opinion based on what you want to do in terms of the development and what you want to use it for- if you dont like the device, you will only have yourself to blame, not others that havent even touched the phone
Hope this helps!

Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the Device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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Desire Z has Sense UI 2.0 too..
And although it does have a slower clock speed at stock- theres always SetCPU- and root for the new update!
The DHD has got a newer version of our Snapdragon 8250 to 8255 which does have new drivers, but overclock only up to 1.5Ghz.. The screen is LCD so yeah, not very efficient

I just hope they implement Sense 2.0 on Desire. I must have that remote lock&wipe thingy
I'm not sure you would want to overclock the descendant of the device who already had poor battery performance, just this comes with moar inferior battery, better CPU(more instructions, could be more efficient?) and 0.6" larger screen.
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To be honest guys, I bought an iPhone 4 just because of the fact that I ain't that much of a poweruser anymore. I never rooted my Desire but still used it regularly with Android IRC, MSN Talk, Rockplayer and stuff like that. So I bought an iPhone 4 just because of it's simplicity and that I don't demand much from my phone. And yes, every Android phone with Froyo is better than the iPhone 4.

DZ weighs a tonne, and the keyboard is a bit dodgy - DHD gets my vote

erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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The information here is so wrong. Im using a G2 the American version of the Desire Z. CPU is a upgrade from the Desire, Desire uses a first generation Snapdragon and the Desire Z uses the second generation Snapdragon CPU. Clock speed doesnt matter here, I can tell you my device keeps up or even surpasses the Desire HD when clocked in the same range (its basically a underclocked version of the CPU in the Desire HD). You clock a Desire Z to 1ghz and Im pretty sure it will keep up with a stock Desire HD and benchmark in the same range. And the difference between 576MB ram in the Desire and 512mb in the Desire Z will not make a difference. Im not sure what GPU the Desire uses but the Desire Z uses the same GPU found in the Desire HD, the new Adreno 205.
Desire Z and HD are a superior device compared to the Desire, besides arguably the screen. Ill give the edge slightly to the Desire HD over the Desire Z but performance wise they are in the same range.

Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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erklat said:
Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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The RAM size would probably make a difference between the Desire HD and Desire Z but not the Desire Z and Desire. The difference is too small to be substantial in day to day use. I can tell you from day to day usage I have no slowness, lag, or problems with my G2. Go read any review on the Desire Z, they always mention how fast the device is and that is stock. Its probably aided by how efficient the second generation Snapdragon really is and utilizes the ram..

[Q] Are you getting a Desire S

So, as the title suggests i would like to know how many of you are thinking of buying the new Desire S.
I have a DHD now but i don't like it as much as i liked th Desire so i'm thinking of buying the S one.
Hope it will be as fun as the old classic Desire...

No
Desire was the best mobile phone last year at that time, Desire S is only avarage today. I will replace Desire with probably Galaxy S2.

Desire S is just a replacement, not an upgrade so I am not going to waste money on just a little more space and a little better stuff. Dual or even quad will be my next phone in a years time.

I'm just hoping HTC will bring out an NFC phone in time for my next upgrade, otherwise I don't know which manufacturer I might have to turn to. I still want an android but don't want to give up Sense.

HTC Desire S is a nice phone but not an upgrade to Desire , it's just for older phone owners.

I don't think I will ever buy a Samsung. Unless they keep monoploizing the amoled supply.
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No. It only have 256 mb of ram more, some internal and newer snapdragon. I don't know why HTC doesn't have any dual core cpu.
And I prefer trackball + physical buttons, not the capacitive ones.
Motorola Atrix looks intresting, but probably it will be hard to hack.
I will wait probably to 2012, Desire is now perfect for me.
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Eradorius said:
And I prefer trackball + physical buttons, not the capacitive ones.
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I think that trackpad is awesome on the Desire and should be kept on ALL HTC phones. I don't like how they have gotten around the problem by adding arrows to the keyboard. It just uses up screen space which sucks. WTB trackpad please

No, definetly not.
I love my Desire, best phone I've ever had. There's too little differences between the phones that would make a difference in choice.

fregor said:
No, definetly not.
I love my Desire, best phone I've ever had. There's too little differences between the phones that would make a difference in choice.
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same.
If only it had a bit bigger internal memory

Lothaen said:
same.
If only it had a bit bigger internal memory
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which i think doesnt really matter, since you have as2d+, data2ext and all that stuff.
i love my desire

I am not ready to change yet. My Desire still dos everything that I ask of it (and more) and whilst the low memory affects me more than I would like for now there is nothing out there to tempt me.
But I think it is fair to say that my next phone won't automatically be another HTC.
One thing I have learnt with the Desire it that Android is Android and the current software setup I have and screen layout cold be achieved on ANY Android device.
So the whole HTC Sense thing (which on my previous Winmo HTC phones was essential) adds little value for me on Android.
So a naked Nexus type device would be tempting keeping me bang up to date but with full control but not just yet.

Nope just got my desire and not ready to change but to be honest i see the s as the way the original desire should have been ie more Space . Hopefully when it's time for me to upgrade there will be something worth saying i upgraded to out but if it's one of these honestly i think i would just end up flogging it on ebay lol

No go for me either.
I'm very satisfied with my old Desire (tweaked it a lot though).
I'm getting the LG Optimus 2x soon to play with.
But I'm keeping both phones.

anko184 said:
So, as the title suggests i would like to know how many of you are thinking of buying the new Desire S.
I have a DHD now but i don't like it as much as i liked th Desire so i'm thinking of buying the S one.
Hope it will be as fun as the old classic Desire...
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hey
I wanted to ask you why do you like the classic htc desire (bravo) more than the desire hd? I have the classic desire with a amoled screen and I actually want to sell it and buy me a DHD but now you are saying that the desire classic is better I don't know what to do anymore so can you tell me why it is better to stick with the classic one? thnx in advance

Absolutely not. I had to go through so much trouble just to get some free memory while Samsung and others are delivering 16 Gb of internal memory. I think HTC is cheap and is missing the point. Of course I have rooted and ext2 but still...
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If you look at the HTC Desire specs and the Desire S specs there's not much which is different. Just some memory added and a front facing camera.
We know the Desire S comes with Gingerbread but the normal Desire will be getting it soon too.
Desire has been around for around 1 Year and till today it is one of the top phones.Me,personally wouldn't go for the Desire S but it's personal choice at the end of the day.
I've heard good things about the Galaxy S 2,being the thinnest smartphone with a Dual Core Processor .

There needs to be something revolutionary introduced on the phone market for me to switch from my Desire

No way am I getting Desire S. I don't think HTC intended to entice the Desire users with Desire S. I have a funny feeling HTC has an upgrade-worthy phone but decided not to show it at the convention.

DanteChris said:
No way am I getting Desire S. I don't think HTC intended to entice the Desire users with Desire S. I have a funny feeling HTC has an upgrade-worthy phone but decided not to show it at the convention.
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That would be the rumoured 'Pyramid' then.

[Q] Desire vs Desire Z vs Desire HD vs Desire S

Which one of the four Desires is best?
HTC Desire or HTC Desire S or HTC Desire HD or HTC Desire Z?
Comparison table drawn here: http://www.geekword.net/htc-desire-s-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z-vs-htc-desire/

Personal preferences except for the normal desire, that one is old.
If you want big screen HD.
If you want physical keyboard Z.
No keyboard and 4" to big S.
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both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)

Desire S for me...i've had the Bravo since it was released and i still love it (i also had the Desire Z for a few weeks)
4.3" screens are too big for girl's hands, so if i were to upgrade it would be to the Desire S for the ff camera and more RAM

I really want a physical keyboard. So I guess than Desire Z is for me. My gf has HTC Evo Shift 4g (HTC Knight). Its the same screen size, but has a slide out keyboard. Perfect!
Unfortunately, although my carries has great service and price, it sucks at bringing new phones to customers. After all we did not get the Desire until late August 2010.

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I really want a physical keyboard.
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i found the Desire Z way too heavy

I just wish that the original Desire had more internal memory (and maybe a tad more ram)
the S's non-physical keys is a shame - but the S / Original for me.
front facing camera i can live without as I never used it on the Blackstone

Desire s i think

dzumagos said:
both desire Z and desire S loose against desire HD. desire S is simply 'refreshed' desire for a lot of money, it is better to go for HD instead. desire Z compared to desire HD also looses. original desire... well if i was to buy a phone now i would not choose it because of it lacking true multitouch.
long story short - for me, the Desire HD is the winner here (and about its size... it is not that much bigger compared to other devices listed here, and it sports best specification at a reasonable price)
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I would vote for Desire S. It's screen is smaller than HD's, but it has the same pixel count, so the images will look better. It also has front camera, which will be useful in near future. The hardware in both phones is the same, but since S is newer, it may be longer supported by HTC.
If there is a senseles phone, it is Incredible S, which is Desire HD with front camera and doesn't worth its money.

I actually bought the original Desire a month ago and I can honestly say its the best thing I have ever had. Even though its a year old now, its still awesome. I even flashed it with the latest RCMIX HD rom so it now has all the features of the desire hd, plus its literally twice as fast. I also repartitioned the sd card, so the internal storage is like 800MBs.
To be honest, I checked the other phones before I bought this one, and I found the HD too big and expensive, and didn't like the keyboard of the desire Z. As for the S model, it doesn't seem to be anything special with the fact that its expensive too.
So if you're looking for the right sized phone and don't want to spend big bux yet still have a beast in your hands, the original desire is the way to go. Remember, as long as you can flash it, you'll never miss all the fun of the new phones.
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i have original desire.. what i miss the most is proper multitouch. .apart from that it is great.. perfect weight and size! htc desire hd is too big imo.. if you want keyboard get the desire z but heard it's a bit heavy... i would recommand desire s

Just buy the mobile what you think is the best for you.
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I still have old desire. I`m thinking that i would be missing trackball in other desires

Yup I like the optical trackball too. Bear in mind that desire's multitouch is not good at all.

Desire is my choice, have one for alomost half a year now and I am super happy with it. Didn't test desire s and z, but I test HD one, and I don't like him at all, a little bit new software then desire but very clumsy made, and it's too big to put him in normal pockets, only if you are rapper and have that big pockets.

In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
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The original desire wins for me . I'm due an upgrade , so i decided to be brave and try rooting it and flashing a new rom , now i don't need a new phone . It's opened a whole new fun world .
desire hd if you like the size

I ON said:
In my opinion the original Desire is the best if you consider the prices. If you already have the original Desire or an older phone and you want to make an investition, i think that the best choice is by far the Desire S.
The Desire Z is too big and heavy and has no big improvements and the HD is too big for what it is capable of.
My next step will be the Desire S for sure, in a few weeks :-D
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not holding out for the Sensation?

If my Desire/Bravo had proper multitouch support and an hdmi out I'd keep it for another 2-3 years..

Pleased as punch with the orignal desire, came to it from the blackstone.
Yes a faster processor would be nice, yes being able to play PSP quality games would be nice but ulitmatley its a phone and web browser which desire 1 does well.
I don't think I'll be getting the itch to change phones until battery life under load is measured in days not hours and OTA data network infrastructure improves and by that I mean High speed (3.5 and 4G) coverage and cost.
Google maps is a toy, it would be great to use when abroad in foreign cities but at £3-8 per MB its unusable.
One example I have is when I got lost in geneva, was in a rush and nobody was around to ask for directions so I fired up data roaming to quickly find out where I was - I had satelight view with a couple of layers as well still set from wehn I use it at home - £5! for about 1minutes usage!!!!

Is it a good idea to buy HTC Incredible S instead of HTC Desire?

Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.

Two words. Incredible s. If you can wait get a sensation
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Incredible S defenietly has better specifications, but it indeed does not have the same customrom / supportuserbase on xda yet.
Like stated above, the Sensation will be out in 1-2months, and thats a great phone. If you cannot wait and want a new phone now, perhaps the Desire HD is a valid option also (Better than regular Desire, similar specs to Incredible, but awesome support/userbase here on XDA).

Blah id get the lg optimus 2x for that amount of cash (dual corez)
But if i had to choose incredible s (desire is booring)
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I got an Arc to wait for the Sensation with root, I am considering to sell it and get a Desire or DHD just because the Arc while it has root it doesn't have any custom rom!
I sold my 1 year used N1 for 330$ 2 weeks ago so I think selling a Desire or DHD in 2 months will be pretty the same, whereas the SE price droping fast and its lack of popularity will mean that I will sell it for even less than a Desire.
So if you can't live without custom roms more than 2 weeks...buy a good old Desire or DHD!
The Sensation will be out between the 8th and 15th June, add to that another month to find a root and the price to decrease

Well, guys, thanks for replying, but why would you ever mention Sensation? I have a budget and I couldn't shell out that much of money and what I heard, dual-core is a battery drainer plus I don't want 4.3" screen as it's too big for me. Even 4" is, that's why I was going for Desire which is 3.7" or something.
Can you put custom ROM on Incredible S?

^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!

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^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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I couldn't go for Google Nexus S because it doesn't have support in Moscow, Russia e.g if I have hardware failure or such, I couldn't take it to the support.
Sounds like I wouldn't need to change ROM on Incredible S but I would like to be able to root it to have full power on it. Is Android applications depended of which phone model do you have (I'm already aware it's depended of android version)?
Also, is dev support is that important? If it is, then I guess I should fall back down to HTC Desire.
Also, I'm pretty tired of this 5 minutes limit for editing/posting, when will it get removed?

If you are in desperate need of a new phone and you can afford something more expensive than Desire, I think you should get either Incredible S or Nexus S.
If you can wait and still afford the price when it comes to the market, I think Sensation would be the better option.
The good old Desire is still a good option to get. Despite of all its weaknesses due to being an old model with old specs, Desire is very cheap at this moment, especially the second handed one.

I had a Desire about a year ago, then moved to the Samsung Galaxy S.
But just today I bought a Desire for £200 brand new, I couldn't resist as it's just such a good phone!
Running AdamG's Oxygen ROM on it now, it's so awesome!

Oh well I just discovered the weather from Sense 3.0 has been ported to DHD in a 100% workingl rom, the Desire will follow shortly

I guess it boils down to price for you by the sounds of it. Also consider if you are big in to gaming and video as Incredible GPU is much better than Desire from what I can remember. Is the Incredible locked though, as in bootloader/ROM's? Also something to bear in mind.
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If you can I'd get a desire s sounds about right for you.
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Ill sell u my white htc desire good condition with 16gb class 10 card (13mb write 23mb read) and all manuals headphones usb charger. Unlocked running miui 1.4.29
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[Q] Do you recommend buying Desire ?!

Hi all
Do you recommend buying Desire ?!
I tried Android at Wildfire and found it so good and amazing so i sold it and want to get a new more powerful device
It costs around 420~500 USD in my country - Egypt and the devices in that range is New Galaxy Ace or used Galaxy S and i don't like both
already compared it to Desire S and couldn't find any huge different which will cost me more 100 USD !!!
so do you recommend buying HTC Desire ? and is it true it will updated to New Sense same one in Desire S ???!!!

Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy

I just recently bought a used Desire for about $200 CAD and I love it.
My voice plan with Rogers comes to like 22$ and I have no desire to add a $25 data plan to get $50/month plan to get a phone subsidized from them.
I just the App2SD with a 1GB ext4 partition on my SD card to get around the limited space the phone has.

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Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy
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Galaxy S II will cost me about 800$ and this is too much for phone , buying i7+6GB laptop will be better idea
i think that i already saw costume roms for Desire with sense 3 and circle lock screen or i am wrong ??!!
and i am still noob at Android but i thing with root i can add more extra space for phone to install apps to it exactly like installing them to phone memory and it's so easy to get 8 or 16 GB SD Card ???
and as you said Desire S seems to be old and same as Desire so i think spending more money on it will not be a good idea

What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?

MohamedYousri said:
What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?
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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.

i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!

vnvman said:
DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.
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The problem is getting SGSII or Sensation that thier prices are too high now and sooner their prices will be lower than now so i don't think it's good idea to get 2 months old phone right now ,,,
i liked HTC Sense a lot so i am choosing from HTC not Samsung also HTC have bigger support from developers than Samsung as i can see
but i read that it's sound is low and LCD Screen not that good ,, is this true ?

heraSK said:
i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!
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Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??

Comparing DHD to Incredible S latest HTC one core device they are the same !!! and i think that DHD is even better !!!

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??
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yeah, x6 had much better camera, and camera is my only problem with desire. but the phone (any phone) is never meant to be a substitute for real camera..so no real prob here....
DHD rom for desire is actually a port, so desire can run it. it's not THE rom from DHD. with that said, you can put virtually any rom into desire but with more or less tweaking to the point where hardware eventually becomes incapable of running much newer rom. therefore sense 3.0 stuff are greatly tweaked for desire to be able to run it. it's not like the real thing but pretty much close. and it's getting better every day... modders here are the wizards, i tell you...
so yeah, i'm happy with desire, didn't regret spending the money on it at all!
as for the official update from HTC, there were many contradictory statements, and the final one is that there WILL be gingerbread update but no word on sense update. you can find it in desire-general section.

I'm using Desire since April 2010, so it's more than a year now. I was very excited about the whole Android thing. And still am. But the phone itself has some big issues. First of all is the huge lack of internal memory. I can't even install the most necessary apps. Secondly it's the overheating problem. My Desire was one of the first Amoled batches and it had issues with the SOC. While using processor demanding apps like navigation, flash playback etc. It was constantly rebooting. Had to repair it. For 3 times. Then it's the speaker and battery. They both are weak. After my previous E61 Desiree's speaker really sucks. Camera is decent too. But in overall I still like, though I would really consider buying SGS back then. Now I'll wait for another year or so. Btw I'm now using MIUI ROM and it gave a second breath to Desire. Good luck with buying!
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Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know
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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...

vnvman said:
I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...
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+1
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What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!

MohamedYousri said:
What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!
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Those are working good, but ofc latest tegra games will run no more than decent, adreno 205 is a relatively weak gpu compared to the latest hardware goodness like tegra 2 SOCs...

best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.

Beso said:
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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400€ is an awful lot for something to deserve the best buy tag.

Beso said:
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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Yes, 400€...in your dreams...