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I have two!

Apologies for starting a new thread, but haven't seen anyone else with this unique situation.... just been to pick up my new HTC Desire from the sorting office, and they've sent me not one, but two - thanks T-Mobile!!
Has this happened to anyone else? I assume I will be on two seperate contracts if I keep quiet... What should I do, given how tempting this appears to be on the surface?!

thebosh said:
Apologies for starting a new thread, but haven't seen anyone else with this unique situation.... just been to pick up my new HTC Desire from the sorting office, and they've sent me not one, but two - thanks T-Mobile!!
Has this happened to anyone else? I assume I will be on two seperate contracts if I keep quiet... What should I do, given how tempting this appears to be on the surface?!
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Heh, i think you should just keep it somewhere until T-Mobile find out their error.. i think its like a 2 month period after which you can keep it! Dont know the laws in the UK though.

At the very least, I would call them up asking how many numbers I have on my account. Did they send you another sim?
I ask because I upgraded, and was sent my phone from Carphonewarehouse, but I was sent another sim card. And it's not a replacement as the package shows it's separate number. I called to ask how many numbers I have on my account as they've sent me another sim, the lady laughed (she had a sexy voice actually, but that's for another time!) and she told me that I have one number and she has no idea what I should do with the extra sim.
So just make sure you aren't paying for two then either:
1. Return it - and go to heaven with a clear soul,
2. Keep it as a spare - not making any significant gains and being morally grey,
3. Sell it, - make significant gains, and go to hell knowing that you made some money in the recession by someone's mistake. You'll save money on heating down there!
Lol

So just make sure you aren't paying for two then either:
1. Return it - and go to heaven with a clear soul,
2. Keep it as a spare - not making any significant gains and being morally grey,
3. Sell it, - make significant gains, and go to hell knowing that you made some money in the recession by someone's mistake. You'll save money on heating down there!
Lol
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Lol ... i say return it, you didnt pay for it so it doesnt belong to you
if you sold it or kept it, you will probably not get in trouble (am not a lawyer though), because its not your mistake its theirs, .. but remember, ... what goes around comes around

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Lol ... i say return it, you didnt pay for it so it doesnt belong to you
if you sold it or kept it, you will probably not get in trouble (am not a lawyer though), because its not your mistake its theirs, .. but remember, ... what goes around comes around
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Yeah, I didn't mention karma. But I'm a business man.
What goes around, comes around. With interest.

Lol if you sell if or keep it, yes you are breaking the law if they can prove that you realized that this was in fact a mistake.
I would just let them know they made the mistake, but that they sort it out rather than you having to post it etc.

For my sins and to help me pay for nice new mobiles, I am a lawyer and OnlinePredator is right - you cannot profit from someone else's mistake where it was obvious to you that it was a mistake. In the same way if your bank accidentally credits your account with £2million, you can't blow it on whiskey!

dont listen to these guys they're just jealous u have two.
u just need to find out how many numbers there are on your account whether u wait for ur first bill or call them up.
hpoefully u didnt sign for both packages but just say u recieved one.

As a previous poster mentioned I would check with T-Mobile to see how many numbers are on my account. If it is just the one, I would keep the other handset and see if T-Mobile eventually relaise their mistake.

Hmmmm... think I'll go down the "clear soul" route!! Thanks guys for your helpful comments... I'll let you know what T-Mobile say!

A similar thing happened to me many years ago. Ordered hifi from catalogue, when first statement was recieved it listed 2 hifis, telephoned company and told them we only recieved the one, which we did. On our statement after that one there was no hifi listed. To this day I have not paid a penny towards the hifi which was £850.00.

This is kinda amusing. But if you want legal speak, the lawyer (humans made after all the souls had been allocated, LOL!) is right. There have been various cases, especially with banks, where people have been, erm... "allocated" items, money even company pay, that wasn't meant to go to them. As much as years later, they were made to give it back. In the same that that in various countries you have many years to take legal action after certain events.
But you have taken a higher path, the path of the spiritually enlightened. You are a pure soul. Arise and take your rightful place with the blessed Android community. Arise my brethren.

Actualy im pretty sure the ownous is on the company to correct a mistake... Large somes of money is one thing but for items there is a grace period where you must keep it boxed and ready to be given back...
After that time has gone i think its 6 months the item is legaly yours.

If they have no clue atleast open it to see if it has the pink hue issue lol then keep the one that doesn't.

i say send it back, every one will end up paying for t-mobile mistakes, companies don't lose mony they just charge there customers more.
well ring them up and ask for a returns envelope, then if they don't provide one after 14 day the product is legally yours. (im not a lawyer)

Believe me ... The nature works in balance
Day and night, right and wrong ... you got the idea.
If you dont order it, it is not yours, send it back ...
Otherwise, nature will take something from you to "balance" what you "owe" (because you dont return it). Probably not immediately, but later.

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Hmmmm... think I'll go down the "clear soul" route!! Thanks guys for your helpful comments... I'll let you know what T-Mobile say!
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good choice!

Did you unpack them? I'd really like to know if you are seeing any difference in colour, especially if anything is more pink one either phone.

I'd be inclined to open them both and then send the worse one back!
You should check for screen quality - Pinkness and faulty pixels.
Buttons - Correct travel and action.
Case condition.
Just my opinion!

No don't send it back!
It is a blessing .... people say what goes around comes around. Maybe you did something good before and you are getting rewarded lol
Nah ... honestly if you send it back you are a good person ... many people say they would but honestly would they actually?

Need help -- stolen phone

Thanks for the replies.

Wow that sucks. Sorry to hear. As far as I know, there is no way to turn on GPS remotely, unless you have mobile defense or something like that installed. Which from the sound of your post, you don't. Maybe you'll get lucky and the theif will turn on gps while he's playing with it. Or you could try calling the numbers he's called and see if you can social engineer a name out of the person who answers. Anything is worth a shot at this point.

You wouldn't have happened to have installed "where's my droid" would you?

Thanks for your reply.

I almost forgot. Google Maps Location history works great with GPS off as well especially if the thief connects to wifi AP's.
This is assuming you have latitude enabled. (Which isn't enabled by default)

i used wavesecure on my hero, had a free subscription with it. didnt purchase it for my evo, but its really worth it. btw do you have insurance on the phone? $100 and you get a new one, the old one is basically useless as they will kill the esn.

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That sucks, i had a man walk up to me at 1 am in a parking lot with only my car and no one else around, he asked to use my phone to call his friend and i almost agreed but then i remembered that a couple of years ago i was stupid enough to do that, i had to chase the guy down, by the time i got him his friends were there...
Srr to hear that mate, hope you can resolve this.
Thats what we get for being nice to people.

I am going to try to say this without sounding like a prick so if I do I am sorry.
First off, you are not a junior G-Man and you are taking some incredible risks if you decide to meet with this guy. Petty theft is a minor issue and is usually undertaken by complete cowards. Actually confronting someone and and stealing their phone requires someone with some other issues. Asking for the phone and then running off with it is very brazen. In most localities anything over $300 would be felony theft, What you describe would be strong arm robbery where I am from and would carry additional penalties. If you do get the guy to agree to meet you, you should really call the police department again and ask to speak to a robbery detective. Explain the entire story and see if the detective will meet with the thief to make the exchange (arrest). If you are able to identify the person afterwards he would be charged with robbery. If you are unable to identify the guy then he would still be charged with receiving stolen property, (valued at over $300, again a felony).
Its really not worth the risks for you to meet with the guy.

bbelhorn said:
I am going to try to say this without sounding like a prick so if I do I am sorry.
First off, you are not a junior G-Man and you are taking some incredible risks if you decide to meet with this guy. Petty theft is a minor issue and is usually undertaken by complete cowards. Actually confronting someone and and stealing their phone requires someone with some other issues. Asking for the phone and then running off with it is very brazen. In most localities anything over $300 would be felony theft, What you describe would be strong arm robbery where I am from and would carry additional penalties. If you do get the guy to agree to meet you, you should really call the police department again and ask to speak to a robbery detective. Explain the entire story and see if the detective will meet with the thief to make the exchange (arrest). If you are able to identify the person afterwards he would be charged with robbery. If you are unable to identify the guy then he would still be charged with receiving stolen property, (valued at over $300, again a felony).
Its really not worth the risks for you to meet with the guy.
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My thoughts exactly. OP is taking extreme risks by meeting up with him. I would be down-right if I had to pay someone to buy back my property that they stole from me.

If you do, make sure its a public place during lunch time and bring some friends(someone from the gym maybe ) if cops not going to help you. DO NOT PAY HIM, he'll do this again to someone else or just run away with your money again.

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If you do, make sure its a public place during lunch time and bring some friends(someone from the gym maybe ) if cops not going to help you. DO NOT PAY HIM, he'll do this again to someone else or just run away with your money again.
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I've got to say that would be funny.
"So I met with the guy who stole my phone and when I handed hime the money so he could count it he ran off with it. So Now I'm out my $500 phone and $300 cash"
NEXT DAY
"I spoke to the guy on the phone and he apologized for the misunderstanding, I'm gonna meet with him tomorrow to get the phone and money back, all I need to do is give him a ride to the store in my new car....."

I hate Sprint/Asurion

So my phone was stolen on Friday. Saturday I filed the claim.
Says it will take 1-3 days. Wed after getting no updates I call, they say should ship that day. Today I call they say it is now 10-14 days.....call Sprint they say there is nothing they can do.
So basically:
1) Go 14 days without a phone
2) Buy a new phone out of my pocket (what was the purpose of insurance again?)
3) Accept a different model phone (what was the purpose of me buying my phone just 2 weeks ago?)

That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.

Post like this makes me wonder about insurance. I would not get off the phone till someone helped me.
Did you have lookout or tp app on it? I think your insurance can try to ping it also. But it is probably to late. Still, I would try.
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japper88 said:
That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.
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Thats only for damage, Best Buy doesn't cover lost and stolen. Hence why they have no deductible.

Its not a cell phone but I have magic jack for exactly this reason. Awesome device that just plain works and costs almost nothing.

newalker91 said:
The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Wow. Just wow.
First off, you're right about there being no magic warehouse of them, and that they're simply unavailable. That's the part that sucks. But you're making a lot of other unreasonable assumptions here. For one thing, they're not offering him another model until his becomes available, they're merely offering him another model. PERIOD. They will not then say, "oh, hey, we got these back in, so we're going to send you one and you send the loaner back." That's not them trying to assist, that's them giving up on a reasonable solution. I think working with a local store to provide a loaner until it's available would be the reasonable solution here, but they're clearly not set up for that, and that's a shame.
And nice "blame the victim" mentality. You sound like the jerks who tell rape victims that it was their fault for dressing that way. The guy got his phone stolen. No world is it his fault that it was stolen. Someone still broke the law and TOOK his property without permission. Period. There's no logic behind telling him that's HIS fault and HE should have known better. How exceptionally rude and thoughtless.
Besides, he did protect himself by buying insurance on his new phone. He did the right thing, knowing stuff happens and these problems occur. He's one of the responsible ones. And the insurance isn't paying off. That's the reality.

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The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Nice troll!

newalker91 said:
Not trolling. It's called playing the devil's advocate. Working for Sprint, I see a lot of bs every day where people do stupid things and result in their phone being lost/stolen. Asurion often times will offer a temporary replacement unit until theirs is available if you escalate the issue. Never once did I say it doesn't suck that his phone was stolen, I'm merely pointing out that in the future this can all be alleviated by being more careful. Starting a thread to flame Sprint/Asurion will result in said person being questioned as to their reasoning for doing so.
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You're a pretty good troll, indeed. Where did you learn these skills?
Troll techniques uses so far:
1. Its OPs fault
2. tl;dr original post --> talk about other crap not relevant to post (like he was offered a loaner phone)
3. Call OP stupid, careless, other flame names
4. Lie blatantly.. about phone availability, policies, etc.
Need I go on?

Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.

TurboFool said:
Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.
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He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.

LxMxFxD said:
He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.

Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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This. Very much this. The amount of irresponsibility i see every day as a tech is sickening. What is even more disheartening is the greater amount of entitlement.
On that i won't be elaborating, but needless to say I am sorry for the OP, but surely you can comprehend that there simply are little to no refurbs available. Refurbs have to come from somewhere, and that would be returned phones. The phone is little over half a month old, so its not hard to see that the amount of refurbs made and phones returned is creating a backorder limbo, with the rates being about equal. Also, exacerbating the problem is the fact that many are out of 14 days so issues dealing with defects no longer qualify for a new, but a refurb instead.
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How is this Sprints fault?
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I haven't had problems with misplacing my phone, but it does happen. Trust me I treat it like a brick of gold. Fiancée is always saying you care more about your phone, etc. Anyways isn't a replacement what why we pay insurance? If some dumbass hits your car you sure aren't gonna wait two weeks for a rental. Cut the man some slack, **** happens and it could happen to you. At least he's wanting another Epic Touch and not jumping on the iPhone bandwagon. I mean let's go wait in line for a phone that's already outdated...
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Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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Stuff happens. You can't assume that every person who has something does it by ignorance. Now, let's assume I had it stolen because of my ignorance. I am STILL paying $8 a month to cover that ignorance, and it isn't being done.
I just had to go out and buy an Evo 4G in the mean time (obviously I could have bought something less expensive, it was $150, but still). So now I will wait for my Samsung to get to me and promptly cancel my insurance coverage. If I'm going to be SOL anyway paying $96 a year and $100 for the deductible and $150 for a replacement in the meantime I might as well just go without it.
And for the record, I have had more smartphones than I can count on my hands and possibly my toes and have never had one lost, stolen, or KIA due to user error before. But like I said at the beginning, stuff sometimes happens.

So for all those saying that if someone gets something stolen thy are irresponsible? So if I go to work and my house gets broken into its my fault? That is what insurance is for. They cover lost/stolen phones and that is why he pays the $8 bucks a month. I'm glad he told me how asurion works.
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newalker91 said:
People hate to take any blame for their own mistakes, and often times it is best that they hear something that they don't want to hear. As I've clearly stated, not every theft leaves the owner at fault, but often times it does. Phones are constantly left laying on counters at bars, in lunch rooms at work, on benches in locker rooms, etc. and then they are angry for having to pay the deductible. I may piss some individuals off when I ask them how it came about being stolen, but finding out actually is part of my job. Teaching people a little responsibility can go a long way considering they get a limited number of claims.
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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.

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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.
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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.

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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.
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i would get that in writing , now i dont know your financial situation but comparable would mean another 600 buck phone, in my mind i would do it knowing i would get that money in cash in hand , but if they dont and say we will credit your account i wouldnt do it.

I don't think people are understanding the arguments here.
In the past I worked with security to try to help with campus crimes. Main problems being rape and thief. We could have easily have cut down on these problems if it weren't for one greater problem. Just plain stupidity. People ignore the safety advice we were giving them. Late class at night? No friend to walk home with? Call this number and we will come and get you. Guy or girl, it didn't matter. Follow these paths that we have clearly outlined for you while security is beefed up in other places, and still people choose to take short cuts that saved them maybe a few minutes and put their lives at risk. We did everything we could to prevent this from happening and it was as if they did everything they could to make something happened. Police have a negative stereotype and it frustrates me to no end when people ignore them when they are putting their lives on the line to save these people.
But lets get closer to the subject. I had my car broken into. Jacked up my dash taking out my radio. GF was driving it at the time and she forgot to lock my car door. I called the police and once they figured out my door wasn't locked they didn't do anything. It was my fault for not locking my doors and I had told my GF to make sure she locked them and she didn't. If my doors had been locked with my security alarm active my insurance and the police would have been a lot more helpful to me. And who knows, maybe the alarm would have scared them off and avoid the whole situation(broken window at the worse?).
I was personally shocked that the op didn't try to track their phone down. Lookout, plan b, he has insurance so the TEP app would have helped him to. I keep my phone on a belt holster. A few people have grabbed that holster when I was walking in crowded areas and without a quick reaction my phone would have been stolen. Before I had a holster one of my older smart devices fell from my pocket when I was playing games. None of the employees knew where it was. Used another customers smart phone to track mines down behind the employees desk and they just so happened to find it there. Last but not least, it is possible to be robbed and have your phone forcefully taken. You can't plan for every possible thing that could happen to your device. But you can get insurance and install at least one program to help track it down in the event that it is lost.
Any of could be where the OP is right now despite however much planning we do. I personally don't like the way the insurance is handling this. I would expect a loaner device during these times because it helps ease the pain of waiting. And of course the OP is mad at Sprint. They sold him the insurance that put him in this place. Wouldn't you be mad at me if I sold you something and it didn't work when you tried to use it? It should lower your trust in me despite the fact that I didn't have any control over what happened and it worked great for everyone I knew.

[Q] Blocking guarddad off on my phone

Hey guy, so my mom is super protective and all this junk and im 16 years old and a guy im not that bad of a kid so theres no need for this plus a total invasion of privacy. They bought this thing its called guarddad for 70$ ! and they dont know i know about it. but it sees all text incoming and out, if i take a pic from my camera they can see it all call logs internet and all this crazy ****. i want it off or blocked, i want my phone on total lockdown with full privacy i have a sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted. Please help

I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.

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I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I'm don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.
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metalfan78 said:
I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.
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That's sounds a little over-protective to me. Even texts I understand but pictures? That's a little invasive. Anyway, think u could provide a link? I couldn't find what he was referring to.

It's actually called DadGuard. It is invasive, that's why I suggested he needs to talk to them about it.

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Hey guy, so my mom is super protective and all this junk and im 16 years old and a guy im not that bad of a kid so theres no need for this plus a total invasion of privacy. They bought this thing its called guarddad for 70$ ! and they dont know i know about it. but it sees all text incoming and out, if i take a pic from my camera they can see it all call logs internet and all this crazy ****. i want it off or blocked, i want my phone on total lockdown with full privacy i have a sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted. Please help
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Not saying talking to your parents is a bad idea. But if you want to go the behind their back route download this and flash in custom recovery. Dadguard will be nonexistent after

If I found out my kid removed whatever tracker I put on her phone, that would be the end of that device.

You work fast billard, lol.

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If I found out my kid removed whatever tracker I put on her phone, that would be the end of that device.
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As a parent worried about his kids I agree completely. My kids know I look. My bill my device. I let you use it.
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shes way to protective as you like to call it. im 16 i can take care of myself. is she wants to see my phone fine, but going through it like that behind my back is way to much. she has my passwords as well for most things. i cant change it or my phone is taken away. she wouldnt want me doing that to her same for me. i really need some help with this

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shes way to protective as you like to call it. im 16 i can take care of myself. is she wants to see my phone fine, but going through it like that behind my back is way to much. she has my passwords as well for most things. i cant change it or my phone is taken away. she wouldnt want me doing that to her same for me. i really need some help with this
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Download the file I posted above and flash it. Problem solved

Wow. This app extremely blurs the line between overprotectiveness and outright 24/7 monitoring.
But won't they notice when they stop receiving the logs of everything you do? I mean, even antivirus programs will notify you once the online service detects that you haven't used the app in several days and such. I'm fairly sure this app would have some sort of safeguard like that.

CNexus said:
Wow. This app extremely blurs the line between overprotectiveness and outright 24/7 monitoring.
But won't they notice when they stop receiving the logs of everything you do? I mean, even antivirus programs will notify you once the online service detects that you haven't used the app in several days and such. I'm fairly sure this app would have some sort of safeguard like that.
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I was thinking the same thing with regards to both parts of this post. However, I hope this brat teenager does flash this "fix" and get in trouble. If he thinks he is so wise to the ways of the world and is so capable of taking care of himself, he can feel free to move out/get kicked out and then:
Pay rent/mortgage
Pay utilities/electric/water/etc.
Pay for groceries
Pay for car/insurance
Pay for TV/internet/etc.
Cook/clean/do laundry for himself
And oh yeah, presumably attend high school every day.
What an ungrateful little punk. He needs to understand that parents have the best interests of their kids at heart, and parents have already gone through teenage life themselves.

ALL Note 7 will be bricked by early 2017. Some earlier.

http://gizmodo.com/verizon-will-brick-the-galaxy-note-7-after-all-1790158297
AND
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices
I agree with this. I know that the holdouts who haven't replaced their note sevens love their phone but it's irresponsible to keep a phone that could potentially cause harm to innocent bystanders as well and it's really their duty to turn in such a defective device like they've been asked many times. There are several promos and even rumors of a free upgrade so there's no excuse for having a note 7 in your possession and holding out and still using it when it's obviously caused injury and forced planes to land etc etc well now you're going to have to or you'll own a brick. Don't get caught with no service I'd trade in soon...it's happening like it or not. Just saying. Don't shoot the messenger.

Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.

Meh. Doubt it.

faslane said:
http://gizmodo.com/verizon-will-brick-the-galaxy-note-7-after-all-1790158297
I agree with this. I know that the holdouts who haven't replaced their note sevens love their phone but it's irresponsible to keep a phone that could potentially cause harm to innocent bystanders as well and it's really their duty to turn in such a defective device like they've been asked many times. There are several promos and even rumors of a free upgrade so there's no excuse for having a note 7 in your possession and holding out and still using it when it's obviously caused injury and forced planes to land etc etc well now you're going to have to LOL
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Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.

Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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Did you read the article though? It's NOT just Verizon, ATT, SPRINT AND T-MOBILE are all following suit. Verizon has just announced it officially first. Read the article it's short and clearly lists even when the carriers will join in the fun. Double yet can doubt all they want. I'm simply passing along a VERY credible source and as a warning to any holdouts picketing a N7 still. You're in for a surprise and soon. Fix has been around for years. Don't say you weren't warned. Don't shoot the messenger either. I agree with it but that's besides the point. My opinion ion doesn't matter. This factual story does.

About time this happened!

NIKKOTUASON said:
Meh. Doubt it.
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Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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it's NOT just Verizon and it's all over the Web at every tech site pretty much. Google is your friend.
another very reliable source. Did you N7 peeps think this wouldn't happen? Curious....the minute it landed a plane the N7 was doomed.
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Fourstarzzzz said:
Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.
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Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Fourstarzzzz said:
Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.
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I definitely see your point but the minute it forced a plane to land I pretty uch knew it was over for the N7
Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

faslane said:
Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices
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I honestly could care less. I have blocked all updates. If they want to start blocking IMEI in the US, I will just spoof it.
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Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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I do not get why people insist on making these threads. It is like they are trying to play some sort of role as overseer of returning note 7's. I am holding onto mine. I will guarantee this phones value will skyrocket due to rarity and there are tech nerds out there who will want one for their collection.

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I honestly could care less. I have blocked all updates. If they want to start blocking IMEI in the US, I will just spoof it.
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I do not get why people insist on making these threads. It is like they are trying to play some sort of role as overseer of returning note 7's. I am holding onto mine. I will guarantee this phones value will skyrocket due to rarity and there are tech nerds out there who will want one for their collection.
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Blocking it may or may not work....Good luck...Especially the minute you soft brick it and are screwed because no one supports it. Don't say you weren't warned.
I didn't make this for that reason at all. I simply made it so people who still have them know it's very possible it could be deactivated by their carrier is all. Nothing more. I agree with it personally but certainly don't wish anyone without a phone they paid for but they are a dangerous fire hazard but definitely didn't start it just to rub it in anyone's face whatsoever. I've been around here for many years and a simple read the story a day or so ago and started Googling it and it seems it's going to happen much sooner than I thought. I hope that if peeps find away around not getting the update and it works that their's doesn't explode, or injure anyone sure of course....but I DO feel for them too if they do get forced to upgrade or shall I say switch to another device. I've had every Note there is and the day I went to get a N7 they were sold out so I had to wait a week and then all this started the same week so I simply didn't upgrade from my S7 Edge or I'd be in the same boat.
Fas

Rado_vr6 said:
About time this happened!
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I* agree innocent people have got hurt, it's not cool to hold onto something that can injure and burn possibly cause deaths...when there's a nationwide hell, worldwide pretty much recall on something I feel it's the responsible thing to do and follow the methods of switching devices but some don't feel that way so they in turn decide to take the chance but that chance could very possible injure someone else too like say if one exploded and caught something on fire that hurt innocent people which may have happened already but I think it's been more personal injuries as of yet, leg burn from it being in pocket etc.
And I'm, just posting what I read, it's not to rub in anyone's face. Anyone who knows me from XDA knows I'm not that type of person whatsoever. This is simply to let people know that a change is coming that will be forced on them if they have a Note 7 still....they can take that for what they want.
Fas

What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G

If anyone has a note 7 they want to sell PM me. I'll gladly clone my imei over from my S7.

And what is to stop someone from simply root blocking this update exactly?

Can someone please answer my question?!
Thanks.

neavissa said:
What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G
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No, since your phone is disconnected network and internet.

faslane said:
I* agree innocent people have got hurt, it's not cool to hold onto something that can injure and burn possibly cause deaths...when there's a nationwide hell, worldwide pretty much recall on something I feel it's the responsible thing to do and follow the methods of switching devices but some don't feel that way so they in turn decide to take the chance but that chance could very possible injure someone else too like say if one exploded and caught something on fire that hurt innocent people which may have happened already but I think it's been more personal injuries as of yet, leg burn from it being in pocket etc.
And I'm, just posting what I read, it's not to rub in anyone's face. Anyone who knows me from XDA knows I'm not that type of person whatsoever. This is simply to let people know that a change is coming that will be forced on them if they have a Note 7 still....they can take that for what they want.
Fas
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I honestly hope that samsung already sent the update to all of those devices and the update will activate itself on some random date and brick their devices.
Seriously people, samsung gave You all a chance to get a new device + extra money, and You said no?
This is how it looks like:
Samsung: hey! Here, have a brand new s7 edge + free money!
You: Nope. I'll keep my device and eventually one day it will explode and I'll burn to death while sleeping .
I'm a note lover too. And if I had to return my device I wouldn't do it straight away either. But once they completely recall those phones and then start to DISABLE them. Then it's turn to take Your device back to samsung and change to a different device, while You still can(hopefully) do it for free instead of paying for a new one later.
What's even worse? No updates. No Nougat. S8 Edge will come soon. And Note 7 will become a old not so powerful anymore device.
And don't try to sell it to someone.
I saw one guy trying to sell his Note 7 and claiming that this one won't explode. Guess what. After contacting Samsung, the next day his account was gone(probably disabled temporarily). He wanted to sell it for 2x the price.
neavissa said:
What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G
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This way probably no. But You'll end up with a Samsung IPod.
solrazr said:
If anyone has a note 7 they want to sell PM me. I'll gladly clone my imei over from my S7.
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Not worth it. You'll end up with a disabled device one day anyway. And even if You will somehow disable the updates (the internal ones that come out of nowhere(not ota)) then it's still not worth it. S8 will come out soon and beat Note 7 + Nougat.
And to all people who will keep their devices no matter what.
I guess it's fine. If they didn't explode so far they most likely won't explode anyway. Tbh it is kinda mean to disable recalled devices in a such way. Like just taking away updates and pushing annoying notifications is enough. And Samsung knows that if they didn't explode till now they won't explode.
So F You Samsung. But other than that think about that it still could explode in a elevator and kill You and other people.
And no guys. It's not a WWII historical item to keep it and show it to Your grandsons later. It's just a phone.

*Never mind, not worth the debate*