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[Q] HTC Desire 2.3.3 Official Update Custom ROM?

Hi guys. Sorry if this is similar to another question in these Q&A sections but i've gone through so many threads that i'm sick to the bones and ready to blow.
I have the original HTC Desire S-LCD model (slightly slower people, please note it is NOT the S, Z or HD, you don't know how many times this happens) and i used the official update for 2.3.3 gingerbread from the HTC developer site. The thing is though, it's very buggy and the lack of space is annoying me. I managed to get S-Off and install Revolutionary recovery onto it.
(HBOOT version says 6.93.1002 (not sure why it has the 6 part) and it says "Bravo PVT3 Ship S-Off")
I tried using root programs but none of them worked on it. To flash another ROM do i have to root it or can i just flash from this stage? Also what ROM would you guys reccommend? I'm wanting one with the new sense 3.0 or even the HTC Desire S ROM with sense 2.1 and apps2sd. I'm constantly uninstalling and reinstalling apps co its always almost full.
Again, sorry if this is unneccessary spam that has been asked before but i'm tired, confused, sick and annoyed.
Thanks, Huzi.

And please for the love of god don't tell me to use the search bar. At least link me. Please?

You can get some cool ROMS here: http://www.cooldevs.com/ that include upto sense 3.5!

New ROM has be flashed from recovery. Always follow installation instructions when you flash a new rom. To find a good one, check the developers thread.
A good beginnersguide can be found here on XDA (Sticky in General section).
Swyped from ICS with Transparent XDA App

reboot into recovery (either through the bootloader, or by adb reboot recovery).
If you just get an exclamation mark in a triangle, you need to flash recovery. Look at my guide.
If you have a custom recovery, backup your rom (it's pretty self explanatory how), do a full format from mounts & storage (apart from your sd-card), then select flash zip from sd, and then choose a rom to flash. Don't ask which is best or what to recommend. It's all personal preference.
ROM's I frequent:
Cyanogenmod
MIUI XJ

I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
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MatDrOiD said:
New ROM has be flashed from recovery
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So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
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huzi_a said:
So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yes, you don't need a goldcard to flash a new ROM. The radio doesn't affect the booting up of the OS, it just affects your network signal and anything else associated with the radio. The radio doesn't need to be flashed everytime you change ROM's. You can look here to see if you have the latest one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
The radios are not region specific

Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I think I'm gonna get started with a sense 3.0 ROM.
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No problem bro hope you find a ROM to your liking. You could try this one its a 2.1+3.0 sense rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300224

You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?

Terepin said:
You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump like to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?
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And let me ask you something. Is it such a crime to ask for help and give help? I've read through every tutorial i needed and still ran into problems. A store worker doesn't ignore you when you need something just coz people have asked before. By signing up to XDA you are automatically willing to help others or even help yourself when problems arise.

Revolutionary. Single word that fixes all. Instead, they gave you even recipes for secret cake! That's not helping, that's spamming.

grazy2266 said:
I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
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Where is this noobs thread? Link Please.
Pardon my noobiness.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Maybe if it will has flashing lights and cool music n00bs will notice it...

Jesus sayd "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." and not "Kill the n00bs"

Two things:
1. Grammar FAIL!
2. I'm not their father.

Terepin, I just wanna say that I like your avatar. It adds character to your posts.

While thank you. I'm trying to do my best.

Stock/custom Rom+SD Contents!

Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki

1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes

ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now

Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.

How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"

Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.

Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..

Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.

Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.

Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.

Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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ndbubbles said:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml

Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.

Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?

I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity

[Q] Need some help rooting and such

Hello all im hoping i dont get ridiculed for asking this but i need help rooting and and installing a custom recovery on my dads dinc. i I have a fair bit of knowlege with some of this but it appears to be nothing like rooting my little optimus v. i have found many guilds but they all seem to be from 2010. i know htc has a program for unlocking the bootloader but his hboot doesnt seem to be listed as a supported device. all he wants is a nice stable rom that will do away with the headaches of the stock sense rom (like the constant low memory warning). i can do all of this for him, im just a little confused as the best way of doing it. ive never had to deal with an htc before, im not even sure what the s-off is even for, so any help with this would be greatly appreciated

reaper420 said:
Hello all im hoping i dont get ridiculed for asking this but i need help rooting and and installing a custom recovery on my dads dinc. i I have a fair bit of knowlege with some of this but it appears to be nothing like rooting my little optimus v. i have found many guilds but they all seem to be from 2010. i know htc has a program for unlocking the bootloader but his hboot doesnt seem to be listed as a supported device. all he wants is a nice stable rom that will do away with the headaches of the stock sense rom (like the constant low memory warning). i can do all of this for him, im just a little confused as the best way of doing it. ive never had to deal with an htc before, im not even sure what the s-off is even for, so any help with this would be greatly appreciated
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What hboot, radio, and android version is the phone currently on?
As for unlocking with htcdev, it makes you do an ruu which updates the hboot to a unlockable version.
S-off means security off and it allows you to flash unsigned images thru hboot such as new radios and splash screens.

The Android version is 2.3.4, and I can't remember how to get to the hboot to get that version number, I don't know were the radio version is
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reaper420 said:
The Android version is 2.3.4, and I can't remember how to get to the hboot to get that version number, I don't know were the radio version is
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You can get both the radio (baseband), and hboot versions by booting to hboot. Power off the phone, pull the battery and reinsert, and then hold vol down and power till a white screen appears (hboot). It will tell you both versions in the top left corner.

Hboot is 0.92.0000
Radio is 2.15.10.07.07
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reaper420 said:
Hboot is 0.92.0000
Radio is 2.15.10.07.07
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Then you need to follow this thread here to root and get s-off. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400

cmlusco said:
Then you need to follow this thread here to root and get s-off. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Great thanks for the help
Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2

So after reading that, am I right by thinking that I don't actually need to get s-off if I'm just going flash a new ROM
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reaper420 said:
So after reading that, am I right by thinking that I don't actually need to get s-off if I'm just going flash a new ROM
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Correct you can root and flash roms without being s-off. However s-off has some great advantages, like being able to flash radios, splash screens, and allows you to edit system files, along with some other stuff. S-off also makes it much easier to reroot should you somehow loose root in the future.

Hi highly recommend going S-OFF. As daunting as it may seem, it's really not that hard, and you won't regret it. Nothing really worked right for me S-ON, so just having S-ON alone might give you headaches.

yup if u already through the trouble to get root then why dont get s-off too, its really worth the time and trouble getting both root and s-off.

Worth upgrading HBOOT and Radio?

First of all, please accept my apologies if this has been in some way answered before. I did a search as far back as early 2011 but could not find a satisfactory response hence my posting here.
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading.
Many thanks in advance.

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I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
Sent from my iStone using a shoe.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
Sent from my iStone using a shoe.
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except his hboot is 0.80
revolutionary needs 0.93.001 or 1.02.0001 to work
Sent from my HTC Desire

Then his only option is to use unrevoked?
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

thanged losse
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.

fraxos said:
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.
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alot of roms these days do recommend the latest radio and the advantage of s-off is that u can change hboots for more space. if u click the all things root guide in my sig i think ul get pretty much all the info u need there.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Many thanks for all the suggestions.
I have now updated to the latest Radio but still not sure about HBOOT and S-OFF. Since I am using JB which requires stock HBOOT, there is little advantage to S-OFF for me? Also, is there a quick way to upgrade just the HBOOT without having to install the offiicial HTC GB rom?

i wouldnt recommend upgrading RADIO ! had so many issues with different roms the last year after upgrading to the latest radio. Now I am back to the latest official radio that was delivered in Europe (5.11.05.27) and having no issues since then with ICS or any other roms.
I have the impression that some issues revolve from the newer 5.17.xx.xx radios being incompatible with some roms.

fraxos said:
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading..
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Why just not to install latest RUU - it automatically flashes new HBOOT and Radio.
About efforts - it's just allows to use modern ROMs.
May be a little improves quality, stability and battery time.
PS I haven't any issues with 5.17.05.27 radio

Dude... He got his answer. Stop reviving dead threads.
Sent from my toaster.

Hboot questions

Ok have a question for you smart guys. I havnt found an answer to it even looking through the forums (mind you I'm on the phone on edge so I may have well missed it) but is there anything listing the pros and cons of both the dz and g2 ones? Also if you flash a rom on the wrong hboot is it the end of the world?
Sent from my G2 running a random rom.

end of the world? of course not, end of your phone? no not that either. if you have the g2 hboot and you flash a custom rom that is to larger to fit on the spcae allocated to system (mostly sense roms) well then it wont boot. not broken just need to flash something else. if you have the dz hboot and you flash a rom "meant" for the g2, no biggie it will flash and work just fine.
the main difference is the size of the system partition, the dz has a larger one and it steals that extra bit of memory from cache and data (no big deal) if you want to be able to flash any rom for the vision just make sure you have the dz hboot and your good.
HERE you will find some info on how to flash it, this is more or less a thread on how to use fastboot i made recently but it will have all the downloads needed as well as a fairly in depth explanation on how to. you can flash your new hboot straight from your bootloader but i dont like this method for a few reasons further explained in the thread
hope this helps

Demkantor thanks for the reply. I read through the post and can't get it to work through the pc way (issues on my pc, sometimes I poke at stuff I probably shouldn't ). I booted into the bootloader option through the power menu and it says s-off and desire. Does that mean I allready have the dz hboot?
Sent from my G2 running the random rom of the day.

can you write down everything on your hboot screen
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

Ok here goes
Vision pvt eng s-off
Hboot-0.76.2000 (pc1010000)
Microp-0425
Radio-26.02.01.15-m2
Emmc-boot
Aug 20 2010,16:51:01
Hopefully the actual caps didn't matter because I forgot to write them down.
Sent from my G2 running the random rom of the day.

no you have the g2 hboot still, maybe write down the steps you were trying to take and what the problems (or errors you got) were. this generally is easy to figure out. actually do you want to write it the thread I linked you to, my toutorial skills aren't great so if you have some questions others probably do too
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I appreciate the offer of help and I will definatly take you up on it. I think the problems I am having are caused by my laptop. Tried hacking on the distro I have installed and I'm all but positive that's what is causiing. Soon as I get a moment and can boot and nuke it I will try again then stalk you in the other thread.
Sent from my G2 running the random rom of the day.